I was reading some information in Internet and I found a Doctor, called Hugo Pecos (I don't know if some of you have read his articles) he talks about vampirism as a disease... the site is here http://www.fvza.org/vampires.html.
What do you think??
There is a disease called porphyrias, which does have symptoms very similar to many descriptions of vampirism. There's the sensitivity to light (which can lead to scarring), disfiguration, manic behaviour... And, old treatments revolved around the belief that it could be treated by heme pigments [used to make hemoglobin] being absorbed through the stomach lining (aka: drinking blood).
Many myths are based off true stories, and through time become altered.
I wouldn't read too much into it... Then again, I just don't trust doctors at all. Their all idiots anyway..... Sure they've got all the learning and the big brains, but they sure as hell don't use them like they should. *shrugs*
I agree with you... it's not that I believe everything, but in the article, he mentions experiments in animals with the virus
exists is a disease --mediterranian enemia -- similar to traits found in vampires. its a blood deecit that causes one to crave either raw meat or blood, some have to get blood transfusions. strangely the disease can make the person very vulnerable to garlic where ingesting it will burn their body from the inside out.. ive seen it man, its not pretty.
I imagine it's not pretty...
I also know that there's a lot of myth around vampires ... but I don't know, maybe I'm too naive, but this guy talks about people they had to kill because they were bitten by infected animals... it's creepy....
It may depend on the person,
One may think that it is a disease...
Something a should be wiped from the face of the earth...
And its easy to see why they think think that and where people are comeing from with that, being it is something that you can only get by being biten or haveing some kind of mix with the blood of a true Vampire.
Others may say, no not at all its just something...a different race, we are just another type of creature on this earth...
As I said I think its a matter of who your talking to, and what there mode of thinking is...
ME? I think we are just another race in this world.
I have heard it called a deciese before though I guess it is matter of opinion
Like afew have said above...i wouldnt read into it too much...its just his opinion at the end of the day, its not fact!
Thanks to all of you who have given me their point of view...
I dont think so, but see like everyone has already established it is just an opinion
I do not think vampirism as defined by modern vampires is a disease at all. It seems to be an embraced way of life (no pun intended) by those who live it. Yes, I know some struggle- but I would never call this a disease. Especially KNOWING the need for human energy is a necessity for ALL humans... vampire claims or not.
I also have not been convinced that any person NEEDS blood from others. I think that is more of a fettish. They surely will not die without it.
Hate me, stone me in the streets... that's how I feel.
If it is a disease, it is one of the psychie and not the physical body. While there are some similarities with known diseases, I have never seen one that requires blood for the inflicted.
That is what too much CSI causes. Sad really, as they had many of the disease facts correct, just took them to an extreme that was not scientifically supported.
Like Indigo stated, I view it if as a disease, one that is based off of energy and wanting more. Or a mental need for a specific type of interaction with people.
Too often we let diagnoses label us, when if a person is sick, they are still more than the sum of their illness.
I read alot of books about serial killers.I read one a long time ago with something about monsters in the title and in it was a story about a guy who was mentally ill. He thought he had to drink blood to stay alive. He'd go around to peoples doors during the day and if they were unlocked he'd go inside and kill them for their blood. Inside his apartment they found buckets, pitchers, blenders and many other typed of containers filled with blood.
He even went so far as to kill a pregnant lady for both of their blood, as well as many animals.
He thought the mob was trying to kill him. He believed the scum on the bottom of his soap bar to be poisonous. He got it into his head he needed fresh blood to stay alive.
He had a disease that caused him to drink blood... in a sense.
I beleive there is always someone out there some doctors that will come out and say this is a disease regardless of the lifestyle, belef or reality of the situation, Imean they use to say that being guay was a desease so theywill certainly keep ont rying to say that vampirism is one, its just a fact that doctors have to cme in reality check with.
There are so many blood disorders out there that have traits like vampirism that people want to focus on them so they can say see there really are no vampires just these blood disorders. It is a fear thing
Thank you all for all your opinions... and for the time you have given to write ...
This is your "doctor" pecos
Dr. Hugo Pecos: My Story
I was born in Texas in 1925, son of a migrant farm workers from Mexico. We traveled the country in a battered truck with all of our possessions piled high in the back, and we went wherever there were crops to be picked: apples in Washington, chile in New Mexico, tomatoes in California. It was the depression, the time of the dust bowl, and many of the native workers didn't want us around. Though we were often the targets of hate, the discrimination made use closer as a family. Eventually, that family grew to include one girl and four boys; I was the middle child.
Some people may think it was a terrible thing for children to be working all the time, but we knew no other life and so were happy in ours. In fact, I'd wager that we were closer than many of the families I see today, with their big houses and cars and modern conveniences. When I wasn't working in the fields, I tagged along after my older brother Orlando. I looked up to him and tried to emulate him in every way. He was handsome, a gifted baseball player and a magnet for the girls.
The vampire population in the U.S. was near its peak in those days, and the effects were apparent all over the country. Every night at dusk, no matter where you where, curfew sirens would shatter the air. As children, we never really understood why our parents made us come in when those sirens sounded. After all, none of us had ever seen a vampire.
Life had settled into a steady rhythm when we arrived in North Carolina for the tobacco harvest in the Summer of '31. It was hard work, with the sun beating down and the sticky tobacco juice getting in your eyes. To make matters worse, the forest around the workers camp was said to be home to a vampire pack; several farmhands had been dragged away in the months before our arrival.
Shortly after we arrived, Orlando began a flirtation with the plantation owner's teenage daughter, Rayleen. At the end of the day's work, she would find some excuse to ride her horse out and steal moments with him. When my father found out, he told Orlando that he couldn't see her anymore; he knew well what would happen if the owner found out. But Orlando was headstrong, and he continued the relationship in secret.
One night, I awoke with a strange feeling of dread and discovered Orlando's bed empty. I slipped out of the cabin and looked for him all over the camp. I finally found him with Rayleen: they were kissing under an enormous oak tree. Embarrassed, I turned away for a moment. When I looked back, four vampires dropped out of the tree and dragged them away. Though the vampires only appeared for an instant, I'll never forget their bluish pallor, black eyes and malevolent smiles.
Dr. Hugo Pecos: My Story (Part II)
I ran back to our cabin and awoke my father; he organized a search party of about a dozen men, and they went into the woods with torches. They called for him all night, to no avail. The next day, the plantation owner organized a larger search party, with dogs. Two days later, the party returned, with a bound and gagged Rayleen draped over one of the horses. My father and I ran out to see if there was any news on Orlando. That was when I noticed that the men were dragging something behind one of the horses. My father tried to shield my eyes, but I broke away and saw what had once been my brother.
The owner blamed my family for what happened and threw us off the plantation. Though we quickly joined up with another tobacco farm, my grieving father could barely rouse himself for a day's work. When he collapsed the next summer in a field of strawberries, the coroner listed the cause of death as a heart attack, but I know he died of a broken heart.
My mother was left to raise four rambunctious children by herself. She was a strong woman, and she had to be. After we settled with some relatives in Dallas, my mother worked as a maid by day, cleaning lady by night, and still managed to keep us kids on a short leash. All that discipline paid off for me when I graduated high school first in my class and enrolled at the the University of Texas.
Plans to attend medical school were derailed, however, when I was drafted into service in World War II. My interest in medicine compelled me to enlist as a medic, and after some brief training in New Jersey, I shipped out to England with the 31st Infantry Division on October 31, 1944. After a month of additional training in England, we crossed the English Channel on a bitterly cold, blustery day and arrived in France to help the Allied push east into Germany.
I am not going to dwell on my World War II experiences here. To go into them in any detail would require far more space than this Web site can provide. One day, I intend to publish the whole story in book form. For now, let's just say that I saw things no 19-year-old should see, and nothing was worse than the experience of liberating a POW camp in Luxembourg that had been overrun by vampires. Some say the Germans intentionally infected the POWs in a desperate attempt to slow the Allied invasion. Whatever the case, I gained valuable experience fighting vampires and treating those wounded by them. And so, when the war ended and I returned to the States, I was summoned to Washington D.C., where I heard for the first time the words "Zozobra Project."
Zozobra Project housing
was rustic at best
The Zozobra Project was an attempt to bring an end to several millenia of vampire activity by developing a vaccine for the virus. Mindful of what happened to my brother, I signed on, and a day later, in an atmosphere of stonefaced secrecy, I was flown to the air force base in Albuquerque and then escorted into the back of a van with no windows. Some time later, I arrived in what could have passed for a summer camp, with trees and cabins, except for all the scientists milling about.
The scientists of the Zozobra Project were a true "dream team." Men I had read about in books were now sitting across from me in the lunchroom. As one of the younger scientists, I felt like I was in over my head. But there was no time for anxiety, as reports of vampire outbreaks were reaching us almost every day.
The early years of the project were a string of failures. In vaccine work, the objective is to expose the patient to enough of the virus to develop immunity, but not enough to make him sick. With HVV, the Human Vampirism Vaccine, it was always the same problem; injections of "killed" virus failed to stimulate antibody production, and injections of the treated, live virus caused vampirism. We knew that the secret lay in finding the right way of manipulating the virus before injecting it into the patient.
Fortunately, the war ended without the threatened onslaught of vampire armies. But most of us stayed on with the Project, plugging away. Weeks turned to months, years. To alleviate the stress, we played chess, formed a softball team and enjoyed frequent barbecues.
And then, five years after the Project had begun, we finally had a breakthrough. Simply put, we injected the virus into a chicken egg, took fluid from that egg and injected it into another egg, and repeated the process about a dozen times. In doing this, we were able to weaken the virus, but not so much that it failed to stimulate antibody production. So, on a sunny October day (Friday the 13th, believe it or not), a Santa Fe auto mechanic named Joe Valdez was brought to Santa Rosa showing early signs of vampirism. We gave him the new vaccine, stepped back and held our breath. It was a long night as Mr. Valdez tossed and turned with fever, then slipped into a vampiric coma. But the next morning, to our amazement, Mr. Valdez awoke with no symptoms of the disease! We put on some music, had a brief celebration and then got back to work. After all, the world was waiting for this vaccine.
In my years in New Mexico, I had fallen in love with the strange beauty of the state, and so when the Zozobra Project was folded into the Santa Rosa Institute, I decided to stay on. I also agreed to head up the Southwest Office of the Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency (FVZA). I must confess, there was another reason for me wanting to stay: Maria Turner, a microbiologist who had fled Germany in 1934. We were married in 1953 and eventually had two beautiful boys.
The vampire vaccine was an unqualified success at checking the spread of vampirism, but as FVZA Regional Director, I was busier than ever, as vampires proved to be particularly tough to root out in the Southwest. Where my work at the Zozobra Project had been confined to the lab, my FVZA duties took me all over the region. I mastered martial arts and weapons, I faced vampires in abandoned mines, old Indian ruins, forests and caves. I grew to know their smell, the sound of their breathing; it got so I could sense their presence well before I saw them. Between 1950 and 1960, my New Mexico office alone destroyed over 1500 vampires.
My dedication to my work took its toll on my personal life. I divorced, remarried, and got divorced again. My family grew to include two more children. Slowly but surely, the vampire population dropped to a point where my life got quieter. I taught classes, watched my children grow into adults. My son Rogelio is an emergency room physician in Santa Fe. The next oldest, Ferdinand, manages a restaurant in Corrales, New Mexico. My daughter Rosa is a Professor of Hispanic Studies at the University of New Mexico.
You may have noticed that I mentioned only three of my four children. That is because my youngest son, Emilio, is no longer with us. He realized his dream of going to medical school and came back to New Mexico to set up a family practice in the small town of San Miguel, where he was the only doctor for 150 miles. One night, he got called out of bed to deliver a baby. On the way back home, his car was struck by a drunken driver and he was killed. I had lost my brother, mourned the deaths of my parents, but I never expected to have to bury my own son.
I was laid low for awhile, and the world moved on. During the Eighties, profit-hungry drug companies mounted an assault on Congress, pushing to overturn the ban on vampire research. This outrage was enough to wake me from my stupor: I spent many a day in Washington lobbying to uphold the ban. In the end, we were outmanned and outspent: President Reagan signed the bill and, in short order, the Vampire Genome Project (a.k.a., the Methusela Project) was launched.
I was glad of at least one thing: the Santa Rosa Institute was chosen as the base for the Project, enabling me to keep a close eye on the proceedings. And all that I have seen convinces me that we are moving too fast. Recently, the Project moved into the animal testing phase, housed in the appropriately ominous-looking Bluestone Center. Behind its thick walls are thousands of animals that have been injected with mutated vampire DNA. If just one handler gets bitten, we'll have a new plague on our hands.
In perhaps the cruelest irony of all, one of my former students, Edward Westhead, recently returned to New Mexico to take over the Vampire Genome Project. Dr. Westhead was an exceptional student with a never-ending supply of questions about vampires. He would follow me after class and pick my brains. It's funny, I always hoped that he would return to the Institute, only I expected it would be to take over for me at the reigns of the Vampire Studies program. While I have no doubt that Dr. Westhead is motivated by an altruistic desire to help people, my opposition to the Vampire Genome Project is well-documented on this site and elsewhere. Rest assured I will continue to try to impress upon him the risks in opening this Pandora's Box.
Lest you think I'm obsessed with vampires, I do have other interests. I live in an adobe house on two acres of land in the foothills of the Sandia Mountains. Years of practice have made me, if not exactly a master gardener, then at least a worthy apprentice. I have a pretty fair vegetable garden and grow prize-winning roses. I enjoy reading and have a weakness for detective stories (perhaps a natural outgrowth of the detective work involved in finding vaccines). I am blessed with good health and six beautiful grandchildren. I try not to dwell on the losses.
There is, however, one thing that bothers me. As vampires have faded into folklore, there has been considerable glorification of them in our media. Vampires in movies and TV shows are depicted as charismatic, sexually potent, the life of the party. Vampire Chic has swept the country, with vampire-themed nightclubs and cults and music. I have even had some young people tell me they wish that vampires were still around.
Folks, let me assure you of one thing: we should all thank God that vampires no longer live among us in large numbers. Vampires are bloodthirsty, indiscriminate killers. They prey on the elderly and infirm, they will snatch newborn babies from their mothers. I speak with authority when I tell you, their lives are a constant torment. I'll never forget one young man who'd been brought to the Institute after being bitten on his way home from a bar. We had him trussed-up to a table, and I was walking about preparing to draw blood from him, when I noticed him looking at me and trying to say something through his muzzle. I leaned close to him, and he hissed, "please, make me like I was before."
Memories like these fuel my desire to counter the current wave of misinformation about vampires. Each pair of eyes I can open makes the struggle worthwhile. But sometimes I wonder: who will do it after I am gone?
My strong voice has cost me much: most recently, my job. I'll miss my daily walks across the picturesque Institute campus, just as I'll miss greeting the new students every fall. You don't spend over forty years in a place without forming some strong friendships. But I feel too strongly about this to stand pat (go to my FAQs page for more on my decision to resign). I know Dr. Westhead sees me as a cranky old-timer who prefers living in the past. I don't blame him. He didn't grow up in a world of vampires, he doesn't know how it really was.
Perhaps because I have endured so much tragedy in my life, I am extra cautious. I unequivocally believe that we should not be opening the Pandora's Box of vampire DNA research until we know more about genetics. My opponents often say to me, "don't you want to live three-hundred years?" I admit, the idea of immortality has its allure, but I don't believe we are meant to live forever, and any attempt to do so will meet with unforeseen consequences.
From www.fvza.org
Sykick has a good point. Truth is often darker than fiction.
Yeah there is a disease and like 1 and every thousand people or some mumbo jumbo like that for numbers gets the disease. It's rather interesting.
I dont really trust doctors, just because someone gets a piece of paper telling them that they can practice medicine dosent mean anything to me.. So i wouldent belive that much of what "doctors" say...
It is as much a desease and Brown eye and Blonde hair. We are Genetic Vamps and not like HIV or Downs..
there is a disease you would have to drink blood and sun light hurts ur eyes but you dont have to drink blood if you got protiens from some where else i forgot what it was called though
Thats true he is an idiot im with her on that. ps i hate doctors
Nah...not a disease....a lifestyle. Poryphyria is a disease....getting a case of the mud-butt is a disease....not vampirism :)
Thats an interesting view he has. But I don't concur with his diagnosis.
According to WebMD:
Folklore or vampires may be attributed to a rare disorder called porphyria cutanea tarda (PCT). The disease is the most common form of a group of inherited disorders that result in abnormal production of pigments that are essential components of proteins such as hemoglobin, the oxygen-carrying part of red blood cells.
According to the American Porphyria Foundation, PCT primarily causes skins problems such as blisters that appear on sun-exposed areas of the body such as the hands and face. Even after minor trauma like a cut, the skin in these areas can peel or blister. In addition, people with PCT may also have darkening and thickening of the skin, as well as increased hair growth. In another, extremely rare form of the disorder called congenital erythropoietic porphyria, the teeth can be stained a reddish brown due to the buildup of pigments.
The symptoms of PCT and other forms of the disease can be alleviated by avoiding sunlight (direct exposure to which can destroy a vampire). And because certain forms of the disease involve a deficiency in red blood cells, it is sometimes treated with repeated blood transfusions.
"These symptoms, disease management strategies, and treatments are clearly reminiscent of characteristics typically associated with vampires and werewolves, and it is widely assumed that folkloric reports of such beasts may, in fact, be based on the suffering of unfortunate individuals afflicted with porphyria," writes plant geneticist Crispin B. Taylor, in the July 1998 issue of the journal Plant Cell.
So classic "sympotms" of vampirism can be attributed to a real medical disorder.
In another article it states that PCT can be acquired or inherited. It is also triggered by an environmental influence such as alcohol or hepatitis C or anything affecting the liver.
Wow, I learn something everyday.
Watch out for that alcohol!!! hehe
from what i have read, hes a retard... and nothign more..
Thank you GothNurse for your post... and thank you all for your point of view...
First, I would like to say that while I do consider vampirism to be an energy deficiency; I don't consider it to be a disease.
Second, here's what I've found regarding this so called Dr. Hugo Pecos at the following website:
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2002-01/1011656031.Gb.r.html
Re: Is there a disease called vampirism and is it spread by a virus.
Date: Mon Jan 21 14:02:47 2002
Posted By: John Carlson, Medical student, MD/PhD (parasitology) , Tulane University, School of Medicine
Area of science: General Biology
ID: 1007136176.Gb
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Message:
Dear Doug,
Thank you for directing your question on vampires to The MAD Scientist
Network. It took me a while to locate the source of the
information you wrote about, and in the end I don抰 know if it is intended
to be a hoax, a joke, or part of some other fictional story. The
Federal Vampire and Zombie
Agency is not a part of the Federal
government of the US, and has never been, as it pretends to be. US
government agencies have website addresses ending in .gov. Website
addresses
ending in .gov and .edu (given to addresses at schools and universities)
are far more restricted than those ending in .com/.net/.org
or any other ending. The articles that are present on their website are
faked articles, and the locations of agencies, names of
people, and historical accounts all appear to be fictional. Oddly, for a
fictional site, there are no links to any 搑eal?sites about
the authors, and the only hint (the copyright of Dango Productions at the
bottom of their webpages) leads only to indirect
references to comic books. Running a search on Hugo Pecos, the most
commonly quoted person on the website, reveals no other
mentions of him on the Internet. This would be impossible for any real
person in his reported position.
If a person truly wanted to explore the real-world occurrences of vampires
(and zombies) they would find more fascinating things
than the fiction published by Dango Productions.
Vampires, for instance, almost certainly existed. The question then
comes, what caused these vampires? There are a number of
theories, of which I will describe the most common, which I have
personally witnessed. The most common theory is that the
vampires of folklore were people that suffered from a disease of the red
blood cells called porphyria. Current medical
knowledge of porphyria ensures that we no longer mistake those with the
disease for monsters. Before medical science was
advanced as it is today, however, those with the disease were sometimes
treated horribly. Having helped take care of a patient
with porphyria, I can understand how such mistakes could be made.
Porphyria is actually a group of closely related diseases that are passed
from parent to child. Some cases are very mild while
some are very severe. When patients with porphyria have an attack, their
red blood cells break. When a lot of red blood cells
break at once, they damage the tissues that they break in. There are many
different things that can trigger an attack in someone
with porphyria. Because sunlight can aggravate the disease, most people
with porphyria avoid sunlight (either by only coming
out at night or wearing sunscreen) and become pale. If they don抰 avoid
the sun, these patients can develop painful sores all over
the exposed skin. While my patient did not have the pale skin, receding
gum line, and painful sores caused by exposure to sun
light that some do, he had another symptom that was probably most
important in starting rumors of monsters.
My patient suffered from mental disturbances caused by the red blood cells
breaking down in his brain. While mental
disturbances do not occur in every person with porphyria, it is not
uncommon. Specifically, the symptoms can be similar to
schizophrenia. The man that I was helping to care for thought that he
heard voices in his head that told him to do violent things.
This man had a good understanding of his disease, and so did not act
violent. In fact, he was quite friendly. However, if the
disease is advanced, then those that suffer from porphyria sometimes run
into trouble with the law. I could see how meeting
several very pale people acting in bizarre manners at night would inspire
folklore in scared people without the understanding of
modern science.
Another MAD Scientist, Nig
el
Botfield, wrote a letter that explains more about porphyria and
provides a great link to additional information beyond that.
Other people hypothesize that people suffering from catalepsy could have
also been the inspiration for vampire folklore. I found
only one person that believed that vampire folklore could have been caused
by an infectious disease. That disease is rabies.
Infection with rabies causes a change in behavior in a different way than
porphyria does, but it is probably the change in behavior
that is most important in starting legends as vivid as vampire stories.
Perhaps it was this interview with Dr. Gomez-
Alonso that inspired the stories on the
website you read.
Because the fictional website you抎 read also stated that zombies were
caused by a virus, I must correct that also. Again, the
truth is far more fascinating. Zombies are a part of the Voodu religion
(which is also spelled Hoodoo, and Voodoo) which is
practiced in Haiti. Because the practices of this religion are partly
secretive, little is known about how common people are turned
into zombies, or exactly how it is done. The most popular theory (which
does not necessarily make it the correct theory) is that
trouble makers are poisoned with a special potion that contains the toxin
of the pufferfish. The victim falls into a coma, is
believed to be dead, and then buried. That night, the victim is unburied
in secret and moved to a distant place, where he is kept
drugged for the rest of his life, acting as a slave. Because you did not
specifically ask about zombies, I won抰 write anything more
about them, but if you want more information, I recommend looking at two
papers, one written by Jak
ki Rowlette and other by Bob
Corbett that reviews the scant
information available on the subject.
Before we came to understand how porphyria and catalepsy worked, unknown
numbers of people died from misunderstanding.
However, we are not as enlightened as we could be. The next time you see
a person sitting on the street talking to a person that
isn抰 there, think about your reaction. Schizophrenia is a common,
treatable disorder that most people are terrified by. Those
that suffer from schizophrenia are more likely to kill themselves in
depression than harm another person, but rumors and
sensationalized stories have been built up around schizophrenia being a
violent, evil disorder .
This site has come up in VN discussion on various occasions and it is a joke, not real. Someone put it together for fun and nothing more. The V-5 virus does come up on occasion but there is absolutely no proof it exists whatsoever. Whenever you see something like this be sure to research the people behind it. I hear about this site every so often and laugh...its a scam.
No it's not a disease, besides being a lifesyle it's also an ancient (according to Cuneiform tablets) a race from another area in space. No really....There are those that shun the thought or the idea that this race actually existed, but there was no need for the ancient Sumerians to create "Myths". Myths emerged centuries after the Sumerian culture....the ancient Sumerian culture....
I've been following all different sort of vampire beliefs. The psy vamp is a lifestyle or a hereditary thing. As for the blood ones being a disease....I'm ambivalent about that. They say Elizabeth Bathory and Vlad The Impaler had mental illnesses that made them sexually enjoy blood...In history their have been diseases that link people to vampyric behavior...but I myself just know people who like blood. Your Truly included. Therefore I believe it depends on the person wheather it be disease or lifestyle.
I agree with you Suavevamp... I think all of us can feel and use the gift in different ways... It's different for each of us.
I brought this topic into the forum since I found this site and it really sounded creepy. I'm new in the rave and that's why I immediately wanted to find new opinions, and again thank you all...
I know what I am , and I do feel like I am sick or nuts even . I know how I was born and know that this trait runs in our family.
LOL, And no I don't think Vampirism is a disease.
SD
woops did not proof read my post "I don't feel sick or nuts.... lol
Just stupid for not rereading... lol
one....I hate doctors and/or anything to do with a hospital.
two....I don't have the knowlege to say if it is a disease or not.
three....I ran out of things to say. lol
I dont think it's a disease, I think it's a way of life.
I agree it is a way of life but could it not also be a disease for some that didnt want it? or just a disease like it?
in ways it may seem like a disease but i dont really think it is
it aint a disease it is like religion it is something that is believed upon like anything else that life has to offer to you. if you beleive it then all the more power if not then beleieve in what you want to beleieve in the first place.
Dr Lavisbre here you have a vampire illness, there are a couple of cures like a stake or removal of head.
Recommend staying out of light and sleeping like the dead, drink blood from as many virgins as possible LOL
and nothing was worse than the experience of liberating a POW camp in Luxembourg that had been overrun by vampires. Some say the Germans intentionally infected the POWs in a desperate attempt to slow the Allied invasion. Whatever the case, I gained valuable experience fighting vampires and treating those wounded by them.
This statement of evenet was written in a fictional series known as "Necromancers". It goes into details of how they were doing unethical experiments in Russia with the KGB in the 1st one & then expanded it to Germany. Stating that Russia made a pact with Germany, that allowed Russia to have political power over Germany.
There are many diseases out there & to be honest I don't think that vampyrism is a disease. I am vampyric & yes I go through a struggle at times, but I'm not curable.
well i know that there are some pepole how have missing cells in their blood which made them so effected by the sun they can't stand under the sun cuz it will burn their skin so they walk only in the night or when there is no sun.....so most of them went mad and start to drink others blood so they can restore what they missing......so yes you can say its a disease
Thank you again for all your answers and opinions... This is my first post and I think that it was a very good discussion...
well my respons to this would have to be that in many ways people may think this even doctors may make mistakes on "inventin" things up but as you must relize that things over time become mis understood or mistaken for the wrong things so i really wouldnt get to upset or in to it
i think it is a state of mind and state of living and a lifestyle and a supernatural occurance but anything but a disease, say that there is a disease means that there is a cure and if there's a cure there's sumthing wrong with that person but there is nothing wrong with being a vampire at all!
Like most discussions on here it depends on what your definition of a vampire is:
In history when people 'rose from the dead' it can now be explained as coma patients being buried a mite too early.
People who suffered from the skin burning in sun etc might have had some background in porphyrias
People who fed on other human beings may have had some background in mental disease.
If the 'risen from the dead blood sucking' vampire is the definition that you use then it is possible that some of the cases were actually diseased people.
Remember, of course, that people would also label victims of the diseases as 'vampires'
However, if you use the definition of the modern vampire lifestyle which is, at least in part, based on the fictional vampire - then this is something that some people chose to adopt - you cannot chose a disease
I prefer to look at the basic idea of a disease, it is (literally) a condition that puts your body or mind ill at ease.
If your brand of vampirism does not affect your body or mind in a bad way - then its not a disease.
what an in-ter-esting person you have shared with us....vampirism as a goverment plot....