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Andy gibb

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Black Sabbath

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Chevelle

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Dire straits

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Enya

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Faith no more

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George Michael

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Hank Williams Sr

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RobbieTheRabbit
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In This Moment

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DEAvENSILENCE
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Kiss

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Zarr
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Manchester Music

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Ozzy

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Yarrow
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Paramore

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Queen

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Ramones

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Savage Garden

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MysticStorm
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13:38:00 Oct 11 2025
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Type O Negative

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U-2

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Ventures

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Whitesnake

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Earthgrinder
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Yarrow
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Yes

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Zappa , frank

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A-ha

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Cadrewolf2
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Beatles

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Chevelle

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Zarr
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Doors

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Eddie van Halen

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MorgenxStern
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Funkadelic

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Godsmack

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Godsmack

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MysticStorm
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Halestorm

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inxs

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AlderxWolf
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Jackson Five

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Kiss

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Zarr
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Led Zeppelin

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Cadrewolf2
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Motley crue

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MysticStorm
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Nine Inch Nails

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MorgenxStern
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Ozzy Osbourne

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MysticStorm
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Puscifer

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Yarrow
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04:49:40 Oct 19 2025
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Quarterflash

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Cadrewolf2
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19:38:52 Oct 19 2025
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Ray charles

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MysticStorm
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19:41:19 Oct 19 2025
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Slipknot

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Yarrow
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19:54:30 Oct 19 2025
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The Cars

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MysticStorm
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20:23:25 Oct 19 2025
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Yarrow
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00:54:53 Oct 20 2025
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Van Halen

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Cadrewolf2
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23:22:57 Oct 20 2025
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Winger

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MysticStorm
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23:51:44 Oct 20 2025
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X Ambassadors

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Cadrewolf2
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Y&T

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Yarrow
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05:50:46 Oct 21 2025
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ZZ Top

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Cadrewolf2
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adam ant

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MysticStorm
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13:52:18 Oct 21 2025
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Bon Jovi

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Zarr
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03:10:01 Oct 22 2025
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Cactus

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CrushedxVelvet
Incendiary (86)
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04:01:49 Oct 22 2025
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Disturbed

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Yarrow
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05:06:03 Oct 22 2025
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Europe

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Cadrewolf2
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09:03:38 Oct 22 2025
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Freddy Mercury

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MysticStorm
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Guns N' Roses

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Cadrewolf2
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23:04:47 Oct 22 2025
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Horton, Johnny

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MysticStorm
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00:38:24 Oct 23 2025
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Led Zeppelin

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Cadrewolf2
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INXS

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MysticStorm
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Journey

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Cadrewolf2
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Krokus

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MysticStorm
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00:23:50 Oct 24 2025
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Metallica

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AlderxWolf
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02:27:25 Oct 24 2025
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Nine inch nails

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CrushedxVelvet
Incendiary (86)
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03:54:22 Oct 24 2025
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Old Ghosts

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Cadrewolf2
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Prince

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MysticStorm
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Queensrÿche

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Cadrewolf2
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21:29:56 Oct 25 2025
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Ratt

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Zarr
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01:22:02 Oct 26 2025
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Stills

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MysticStorm
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Tool

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Cadrewolf2
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16:35:24 Oct 26 2025
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UB40

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MysticStorm
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16:56:59 Oct 26 2025
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Van Morrison

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Cadrewolf2
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19:18:24 Oct 26 2025
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Wasp

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MysticStorm
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22:05:18 Oct 26 2025
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X Japan

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Cadrewolf2
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18:41:45 Oct 27 2025
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Y&T

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MysticStorm
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20:46:51 Oct 27 2025
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The Rolling Stones

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Cadrewolf2
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18:22:12 Oct 28 2025
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Zack brown band

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Earthgrinder
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01:03:06 Oct 29 2025
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Aerosmith

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Cadrewolf2
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05:07:21 Oct 29 2025
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Boston

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AntisocialReader
Daemon (95)
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23:21:40 Oct 30 2025
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Crossfade

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Cadrewolf2
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02:35:55 Oct 31 2025
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Duran Duran

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MysticStorm
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14:27:48 Nov 01 2025
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Evanescence

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Cadrewolf2
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19:29:30 Nov 01 2025
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Fastway

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Earthgrinder
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00:35:40 Nov 04 2025
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J.giles band

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Cadrewolf2
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06:14:26 Nov 04 2025
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Huey lewis and the news

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Earthgrinder
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02:34:34 Nov 08 2025
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India

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MysticStorm
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02:53:22 Nov 08 2025
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Queen

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Cadrewolf2
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20:06:41 Nov 08 2025
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Jackson 5

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Earthgrinder
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02:40:24 Nov 09 2025
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KGB

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Cadrewolf2
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05:03:01 Nov 09 2025
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Lionel Ritchie

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Earthgrinder
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02:46:06 Nov 10 2025
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Manchester Orchestra

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Cadrewolf2
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04:51:56 Nov 10 2025
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Nena

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Zarr
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00:54:48 Nov 11 2025
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Outer limits

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Cadrewolf2
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06:13:58 Nov 11 2025
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pantera

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MorgenxStern
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03:32:53 Nov 12 2025
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Queen

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Cadrewolf2
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03:40:02 Nov 12 2025
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Ratt

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AlderxWolf
Sire (100)
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03:46:11 Nov 13 2025
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Super Tramp

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Cadrewolf2
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06:12:34 Nov 13 2025
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Twisted Sister

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SP
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13:47:30 Nov 13 2025
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U-2

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Cadrewolf2
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03:57:08 Nov 14 2025
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Vinny Vincent

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Earthgrinder
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07:23:30 Nov 14 2025
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x band....ha

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Cadrewolf2
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20:45:16 Nov 14 2025
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Yes

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Zarr
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01:25:11 Nov 15 2025
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Zappa (Frank)

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Cadrewolf2
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19:00:03 Nov 15 2025
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Abba

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AlderxWolf
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02:59:47 Nov 17 2025
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Beck

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MysticStorm
Great Sire (110)
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14:11:50 Nov 17 2025
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Cocteau Twins

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Cadrewolf2
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23:42:15 Nov 17 2025
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Dire straits

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MysticStorm
Great Sire (110)
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00:00:47 Nov 18 2025
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Eagles

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Cadrewolf2
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06:20:12 Nov 18 2025
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Foreigner

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MysticStorm
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14:14:59 Nov 18 2025
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Guns N' Roses

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Cadrewolf2
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21:07:33 Nov 18 2025
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Huey Lewis and the news

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Earthgrinder
Premiere Sire (127)
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01:31:28 Nov 21 2025
Read 99 times

India

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Cadrewolf2
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03:46:22 Nov 21 2025
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Joan Jett

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SP
Sire (100)
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14:41:57 Nov 21 2025
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Kansas

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Zarr
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01:08:10 Nov 22 2025
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Janis Joplin

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Cadrewolf2
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20:49:06 Nov 22 2025
Read 83 times

Loverboy

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MysticStorm
Great Sire (110)
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23:57:59 Nov 22 2025
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Metallica

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MysticStorm
Great Sire (110)
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03:05:23 Nov 23 2025
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Nirvana

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MorgenxStern
Sire (103)
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Honor: 480
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02:00:35 Nov 24 2025
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Orbit Culture.

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Doroth
Bete Noire (44)
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Honor: 811
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11:12:23 Nov 24 2025
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Puscifier

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MysticStorm
Great Sire (110)
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13:40:12 Nov 24 2025
Read 69 times

Paramore

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Cadrewolf2
Premiere Sire (129)
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19:23:42 Nov 24 2025
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Queen

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AlderxWolf
Sire (100)
Posts: 129
Honor: 377
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02:17:41 Nov 25 2025
Read 63 times

Rush

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Cadrewolf2
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06:01:50 Nov 25 2025
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Styx

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