Have you ever performed a spell that actually worked... or you at least think it worked?
I used to live with a man who was both boastful and egotistical. I wanted to silence him for a single day. Somehow it backfired and I lost my voice for 3 days. There was no sign of damage to my throat and I wasn't sick. I simply couldn't speak.
spells should never be used to take away the free will of another person. That could be why if backfired. I don't know if you were asking that question or not. Perhaps if you had performed the spell to protect you from harm instead of taking away from someone else, it might have worked. something to think about in the future.
1st rule of magic... Harm none. Do your spells for you and you may have better success. unless of course your goal is to harm others, that of course is not my thing.
This is only my opinion and experience. I am sure there are others that would disagree completely with this.
oops.. to answer your other question, yes I have performed spells that have worked, in my opinion they worked. at least I accomplished what I was after.
That was the first and last time I ever did such a thing and I will never do it again. I learned my lesson. I now only perform protective spells, but being that they are never 100% effective, I can't be sure to whether or not they're working.
My opinion is that magic can't be control, but it's something that come from deep inside you! It has to be perfect when you ask something, we are not perfect!
But in your case if you would have helped the man you live with instead of trying to shut him out, it would have worked, that's what I believe.
We need to understand other... Magic helps us to get what we need, but it isn't created from nothing! We need emotions, but we can't get anything good from anger, sorrow and I think that magic used to help others is like a smile, it's free to give one, does not harm anyone... and if it didn't work, at least, nothing bad happened!
This is why there is the old adage, you need to be careful about what you wish for. Most magickians refer to this as the "Monkey's Paw Effect." It is the type of thing where someone does a spell asking for money and they get it. The spell works but some close relative dies in an accident and leaves them money in their will. It is something like that. As for intent, any spell can go negative and it is relative to belief system and type of magickal system one is involved with as to whether they believe in no harm. Some who are involved in Traditional Witchcraft (not meaning any form of Wicca) and other forms of magickal practices will cast negative spells if they believe it is warranted to protect family etc.
I have always felt that guilt whether conscious or unconscious is what puts the monkey wrench into the mix. I have read that some magickians believe in the "Fates" and that they can be a stumbling block to a working being fulfilled. When I dabbled with certain types of magick...hoodoo, I had that happen a couple of times. The outcome was sort of funny. I did a spell to compel someone to come to me. What happened is I was on the freeway a few days later and voila, there they were right in front of me in their car. I was so unnerved by it I went off the next exit, lol.
I agree and intent is the greatest force in the magick you practice in all cases. Intent is that pre karmic energy that's cast out with the hopes of accomplishment
Lol, I had a bully who was a complete A-hole and I wanted to scare him so I used my own blood in front of him and it ended up with me and him getting very sick.
Monk you blew it. The idea should have been protection and karmic justice. All you did was make yourself look strange and possibly will encourage his behavious
If I didn't think a spell would work - I wouldn't have done it in the first place. My spells are successful, before I make them! *hint*
If you consider Reiki Healing attunements spells (since they are also done in sacred space, etc.) then I can provide medical proof they work.
But then again, according to Peruvian shamans, if you can't make it rain ... and I can't (yet)... then go away. Seems it's all talk unless you can.
People need to be careful about carelessly and thoughtlessly tossing energy around like a grocery store item You can end up playing with fire
I have never tried a spell would love to learn though. I do believe in will power and if u need something bad enough you can make it happen. Only one time has it happened really. I was financially just completely hurting. I had bills to pay and things my kids needed and I really needed a computer for school too. I stopped by compusa which was going out of business, I saw all laptops 50 off and it was their last day before completely closing. I thought to myself "Of Course it would happen when I can't get one" "I really need money bad" I went home and I checked my mail and I received my exs income tax check in the mail cause he owed back child support. I had not gotten anything from him in years. It was a 4000 check. It couldn't of come at a better time. I believe that I was thinking about it so hard and desperately needed it and it came to me.
Needs and wants are two different things.
I've done spells that have worked, and ones that needed better timing.
Its all about being well prepared and making sure correlations are marked properly.
You also want to consider that fact that you are not to do anything against a person's will-- unless it is for their protection.
Binding spells are a good example.
Yes,I have success,but do not perform spells persey.The "thought and will" works very well for me.
I'm an Usui Reiki Master, myself. Its amazing watching it 'do its thing.' :)
I am a practicing Witch, but have I ever did a "spell"? Not to the extent of some. A little candle magick and making a protection charm is about it for me.
But someday I will.
As for if I think they work, yes I do. Have I seen one work? With what I've done, yes.
In order for it to be a spell does it have to ryhme and all that?
Wording a spell is up to you. No Rhyme scheme is needed Just state what's desired, plain, simple language is fine. And it doesn't have to sound as if your giving a college lecture. Speak to your Deities just as you speak to others in normal conversation.
Making it rhyme helps if you're trying to do a spell you want to use frequently in order to memorize it.
However, its not needed. :)
Its all about going from the Heart.
(This is strictly my opinion.)
I think he meant if you have a deity.
Personally, I dont know if I believe in a superior being or not. I'm a very scientific thinker.
But magick isnt controlled by a deity, its controlled by you. A Witch must use the power in and around Them and use that to affect a change the caster wishes to see.
But it is believed that a deity would lend their hand to your magick.
Thanks for responding PH.Like you,being a bit of a scientific thinker myself,I believe majick is with US and not any diety.
For protective spells, I invoke the spirits of each element in a deosil(clock wise) pattern, when I reach the element of spirit, I ask the God and Goddess to send a guardian spirit, when done correctly, the spell is 100% effective
Oceanna it depends. I personally use pagan Deity. However there's always what's called Natural Magicks which uses none. There was a book on this by Scott Cunningham some time ago. I believe it was titled; Earth Magick.
Ok. For spells and castings. There are basic rules to be followed. One is that you can not harm. Like the other person said. But the second rule is that you can not truely trust in the art of spell casting. It can NOT be controled by means of bruteness or such things of the will catagory. The third rule is that if the law of balance and peace amung the creatures who can spell cast is disturbed.
The spells backfire. I mean by this : If you are using spells negatively. They backfire all the time. If you are using spells in a positive way. Like healing or curing. Then they work 70% of the time. Depending on your emotion towards said person.
Key factors of spell casting requires a hell of a lot of intelligence and that of the anatomy of the universial knwoledge. Basically science is within the required field of spell casting. This enables someone to heal or cure an illness of someone else or of yourself.
The basic theory of magical spell castings fall to the Laws of Order and that of Peace. If such laws are to be broken to harm someone. They will either lose their voice, become ill, or often times this curses them.
A curse is a negative spell generated by the negativity os the spell caster. This always backfires unless you are corrupted to the Dark Art Laws. The Cursing of a spell is fairly complicated and highly unstable. Also, NEVER EVER try it. Because this might happen even to you. ._.
Being cursed is the allness of weakened senses, highly sensative to people looking at her. Being cursed by a follower of Dark Arts. A spirit will haunt you and you ill feel it's presence. I had done this with a black bible because I did not believe in Spells or anything of that. 0.O That crap proved me wrong. I tried summoning Domni the ever trickster. And success! But I caused him to turn on me. He's been following me ever since then for 15 years. A trickster spirit causes you to leave your guard open for a moment or to to rest. Then they attempt to freak you out by pushing you down a flight of stairs. Or give you a bit more speed on a vehicle. ( I was on a four wheeler at the time and was going up a hill. The accelerater throttler was stuck on full blast. I crashed at 50 mph. )
But other than that. Trickster spirits tend to act more of children. Always throwing tantrums when you know they are there to scare you.
._. I posted this to give you a heads up about the Black Arts. Never try them unless you wish to be Damned till your demise. ( Till you die. )
The double backfire...dark stuff, knowing they will do so prepare a secondary spelll to catch the backfire and cause all sorts of mayhem. It is unlikely you will control a backfire from a gun, so true with a spell...but if you have general mal intent you can magnify your will.
True. But a secondary spell to caught the first spell's backfire can also amplify it's destructive capabilities as well when it hits. So you have to be careful on which type of secondary spell you use to amplify or magnify your will power. The best one I used was of a blessing one. Though it works for a short period of time. It actually corosponds with a curse. It basically nulls half of the inative cursing place upon you. Basically a Goodly spell is the best way to counter a Dark Arts spell. One and One counter the other and null from 50% to 90% of the negativity and of the positivity of the spells used. A fielding should be the third Goodly spell. This amplifies Goodly positivity energies so it hampers the negativity enegeries to weaken when it backfires. You can simply do it this way and not harm yourself in the least when it hits the secondary spell. because it wont have enough of a kick to actually do you harm.
I try to advise against dark stuff. Now if you're talking self defence or protection of an innocent the intent is totally different
Then there is the whole duality thing you have to worry about. You know, yin-yang stuff.
A spell of any kind is going to be affected by any sort of energy you put into it or is being affected by the area or people nearby as well.
I've performed many spells or summonings, such things and usually I end up with a favorable response even if it isn't the exact idea I had in the beginning.
The spirits and nature has a way of understanding what is intended even if you don't. Which is why it is very important to contemplate every aspect of the spell and ritual around it very carefully.
I use alot of basic communication, cleansing, and protection rituals. Also dealing with weather and sight. I am very careful in which spirits I invoke and always make sure not to ask too much of them and have some sort of offering as well.
Even a simple deed as asking help in a plant grow has to thought out thoroughly. A lot of people don't realize that or try to shortcut things and then are disappointed when it doesnt work out in the end. Or they have a tiny doubt already in their head that it won't work. They're setting themselves up for disappointment.
i didnt really cast any spell but i did ask to keep someone whom i cared about to be safe from an impending danger from some people. i lost track of time between my willing the people whom were trying to cause my dear one harm. Eventually i fell asleep only to wake up the next day by the same person i was trying to protect telling me that the en had simply disappeared. The parents of friends of these people were frantic searching for them even involving police, a few days later the boys returned saying they got lost driving. Perhaps it wasnt me but my friend insisted it was.
But in any case i was always taught not to meddle in things i didnt understand by my father who grew up a santero. And i know that you should never cast a spell against another because they always come back.
Well if the person was bothering you, then doing a spell wasn't a bad thing. However sometimes things will happen besides the spell, and I suspect other things were at work here. That has happened. One thing I might suggest is when you use energies for a specific purpose, be sure your intention doesn't go beyond the words. Don't cast a spell for someone to leave, when you really want something beyond that
I'm still trying to learn what I can. I don't want to jump into spell casting until I am confident with myself and magic. Though hopefully I will get some safe exposure with rituals and spells from my teacher.
True magic comes from within. If the person has no knack for it, it muct be taught and is hard to learn. Some people never can learn. And true magic needs no dieties, words, etc. You just have to know your intent and concentrate. It's as simple as that.
You likely felt guilty and so it turned on you of your own doing.
Well no-one likes to cast what might be considered a negative working. But if it's needed, then do it without guilt. from what the first poster describes this man was a real mental Ox that needed yoking to say the least.
Yeah spells in my opinion do work so its very important to be careful what you wish for
I have performed some that work I believe its up to the caster who makes it work or not with enough energy and intention gives you your magick.
I asked for an idea for someone, put real intent to it na d afew days later we came up with a solution
One time someone had been yelling at me because they were angry and I said calmly that i thought that they should quit talking to me like they were or they would lose their voice for awhile, Then for about 3 days they couldn't tlk for some reason. Don't know if what i said idid that or not though!
I believe these Spells and thoughts that are helping changing an event is the power of Manifestation, something that we can all do with plenty of practice.
I tried distant reiki, dont know whther it worked, but patients improved from cancer due to homeopathy thats on my mother in law.