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Fallenstar
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Published this week is the the fact that 149 global companies control the worlds wealth. This is somewhat odd as there are thousands of huge companies.

When analysed these 149 companies all had links meaning they acted as one super-power.

Odder still it is unclear who the major share holders are.
Most are major banks but hedge funds also feature, for instance today on Bloomberg a Hedge fund who control 13
TRILLION Dollars, yes Trillion, were revealed.
Is it possible long lived Aliens are letting us Monkeys Terrraform a Planet and build their infrastructure ready for their invasion?

My question is this? Given this is more money than the TOTAL USA debt, who is really running this Planet and what is their Game?




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ContessaIsabella
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I read that too..



http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=66982



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Destruction..most likely. =/



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Follow the water trail.



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The answer to this question can actually take up several posts, I don't think one post will hold all the information. So let me try to condense it a bit.

You have to start from the beginning of the beginning...yea....anyway hopefully I can stay on track without elaborating and dragging this on for more than one post.

The book of Genesis was written by more than one individual and it was taken from previous records thousands of years older. One proof of this is within the biblical reference itself and can be found in Chapter 6 of Genesis, the first 6 verses, and if read with an understand it can make many things clear or at least clearer than they are presented by organized religion which hasn't a clue...or better yet it does but leads you down a different avenue.

Those individuals in "power" they who literally run the world economy and politics are descended from, in one way or another, entities who ruled this planet before the "Adam & Eve" story.

There is an enmity which exists between human kind and a certain "alien" kind and it has been and continues to be the basis for all wars, famines, pestilence, and human tyranny that exists on this world.

Ask yourself this...why were the dinosaurs here? what was the purpose of their existence? and no it wasn't for us to have oil. Why were they destroyed, the ones that were above land that is. And please don't consider the Mammoth, their time line and existence was not pre-historic, or pre history as the word implies.

Now the enmity is one that is driven by pure greed and wanting need for a world that is rich in the items that are used for wealth and power by those who run this planet, the descendants of those who came before who lack the abilities that are prevalent in humans. That is why humans are hated by some "alien" races. We automatically think that outer worldly entities are more advanced than we are in "spiritual" matters....they are not. Those individuals who run this organized new world order do not have the abilities that the majority of human kind do so it is their mission to thin out the human race and implement religion that does not direct you in any direction except the one they wish you to go.

Now you can go grab onto your bibles and pray all day if you want for whatever solace you wish for...but in reality you are creating your own doorway to bliss and contentment through your belief. You're healing yourself through your minds energy, you're gaining whatever you want through you own will by way of your minds energy....this is something that those world leaders can not do, they do not have the energy force to do it.

This energy force is why humans are hated....or better yet FEARED. Mass gatherings brings a force of will that drains those individuals in power and weakens them...this is why the people gathering against Wall Street are being beaten, gassed, and arrested...their collective energies are too great and can easily defeat any negative energy directed towards them....so they must be disbanded and weakened because a mass consciousness can topple the New World Order.

And these "leaders" come from every race not just the European continent. Chinese Leaders have tried to kill the Lamas every time one would come into power because their energy is too powerful. Every where in history that you've had a leader who has raised the consciousness of their people, they have been beaten, imprisoned, or killed. Every race has experienced this over the centuries because this world order is nothing new.

Human kind is the most powerful being in this sector of space, the most advanced spiritually and mentally...something that other beings fear out of jealousy. They do not believe we have the right to exist, they didn't believe it then and they do not believe it now...solely out of jealousy.

Dumb down the population...poison them with all manner of fair seeming foods, take away the natural healing agents, make it illegal, unlawful, unobtainable keep them polluted with medicines that do nothing more than sugar coat the disease, keep them solely on a physical concentration and not spiritual. Show the Watchers that they are not capable of anything more than being an animal and herded and in doing so...this world that we call home with all of its energies and powers that are unique in the Universe will become the abode of entities who will rule over us and obtain their material wealth and their energies from our weakened bodies and exhausted minds.


Stop bothering Jesus that wasn't his name anyway he didn't speak Latin or Greek he spoke Aramaic. And if you insist that he was the Prince of Peace then he was less than his teacher, Melchesidek who is known as the King of Peace...and he isn't "God" because if he was he'd be less than himself...remember Genesis..."God" stayed out of his creation...didn't step foot on a physical world because it would have lessened him. And the "Holy Spirit" concept....go back to the language in which it was first introduced and the meaning is different.

I AM NOT DENYING THE EXISTENCE OF ANY OF YOUR BELIEFS NOR AM I SAYING ANYTHING THAT IS MEANT TOO HURT YOU OR YOUR PHILOSOPHY ABOUT "GOD" OR ILAH AS THE ANCIENT LANGUAGES TRANSLATE IT.....I'm simply stating simple truths by getting away from the English translations. If your belief is in Christianity then more power to you and keep on trukkin'. If you believe that Jesus is your personal savior then blessed be. But use your own mind and rationalize that which is right in front of you. The truth will set you free...but as John found out for himself once you find it...it is pleasing to the taste but bitter to the belly.




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ContessaIsabella
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Oceanne, Follow the water trail? money trail?

Actually it is very difficult to find out who owns what , they hide behind corporations or use a proxy.

Names like schroeder, goldman, rockerfella, Sachi, Barclay brothers, Prince al-aweed seem to be high up the food chain.
But interestingly if you read wikipedia it states Prince Al-aweed is just a front for an unknown ultra rich person. I have just checked wiki and they have REMOVED THAT ENTRY ???

Davyd, thank you for your detailed post but do you have any evidence as to whom these Aliens are and a name for them?

Your post is mostly speculation and this post is about the cold hard facts...like this link about the Prince;

This lists how much of the Usa he owns but I suspect much more is hidden. As does (DID) Wiki, funnily enough he is also photo-sensitive- Grinz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Waleed_bin_Talal



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Sounds like yet another piece of gris gris for the hoodwinked conspiratorist.



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ContessaIsabella
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Oh I found a little bit..no voodoo here, I quote..

"The Economist has expressed doubts about the source of income of Prince Al Waleed and whether he is a front man for other Saudi investors. According to it, his income in the 1990s was insufficient to cover his expenditures. "You could barely clothe a Saudi prince for such sums, let alone furnish him with a multi-billion-dollar empire. Nevertheless, by 1991 Prince Alwaleed had felt able to risk an investment of $797m in Citicorp", writes the magazine."



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RavenousNightwind
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That's several interesting points, DavyDenko. I kinda always thought in some way that the world was being controlled by something else, and it's interesting to think it's alien. I do believe that our will has the power to over come many things. But I wonder...what will the final outcome be if humans rise above all of that in time? It seems that aliens...are no different then humans.



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They are not...some at least...

It's interesting how biblical references can be made to "Angelic" beings traveling in "Ships" and taking on physical forms and sitting down with humans and eating with them, taking wives from among the population and having children, having schools of thought for the greater uplift of the human species, and present day humans deny the existence and intermingling of humans now with the same entities.

Hollywood has, in a way, bastardized the relationship of human kind with what we call aliens and has turned a literal "family" relationship, with kin, into a fantasy so that we would think every thing "unexplained" is no more than a fantasy.

But in the same breath Hollywood reveals dramatic truths that we see and ponder about...at least those of us who have not forgotten will ponder.

The problem with humans is that we think we're the "cats meow" if you will, and that there is nothing in the multiverse that can compare with us. We have been "educated" better yet indoctrinated, from a young age to believe the opposite of what our natures tell us. It is a conspiracy of sorts that has been perpetrated in order to keep us dumbed down and living in a constant fear where we actually or the hopes are, that we actually will turn towards government looking for answers and protection from what they have demonized in order to keep us under control and living in fear.

Several past Presidents have eluded to the fact of alien intervention as well as the possibility of a threat from space. But how many people remember those instances?



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RavenousNightwind
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I don't understand why they have to control anyone. What is the real purpose of that? If the government truly fears the public then that just makes this a huge circle that continues to go round. I don't understand that concept of a world saying where you have free will but in reality they are watching you. What happens if people rebel and decide the people are taking it back and succeed? They hide behind forces in which are also part of the people. That's kinda dumb..



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DAVYDENKO
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All of what is happening is based on a wager, believe it or not. I have said that human kind is unique..We are very unique in the Multiverse because we are beings that have been created with the "Soul" of the ancients.

Other entities in the vastness of space do not have this quality.

THAT is the enmity, the ongoing battle of wits and will. WE have to be able to prove that we are still worthy of the gift of our creators. If human kind can be swayed from acknowledging their unique existence then we are no longer the masters of our world but rather the slaves of those who have won the wager because we have turned our backs on our beginnings and have taken the gift of "SOUL" and willingly given it up in exchange for a pocket full shells.



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RavenousNightwind
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So you are saying that we must show the fact that we know we are different and we have the ability to make this world our own? To show that we will not be pushed around by others? I'm sort of confused if that's not what you mean.



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DAVYDENKO
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ENMITY look it up and maybe you might better understand the history of humans and entities who are there to help and those who are there to confound.

And one more thing: "Alien entities" as a rule do not speak English, their language is what has been coined the "Language of the Angels" Their races are mentioned in Biblical reference as well as Sumerian and Sanskrit. So you have to know the difference between English translation and ancient languages.



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RavenousNightwind
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It seems really interesting but at the same time it's kinda unsettling to think that our lives are being controlled in some way through another force that just wants to keep us numb to our own capabilities...



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ContessaIsabella
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Davyd, great input... I will read the 21st century Barrel shafting, but my point is a valid one.

For those of you that recall that great series "startrek the next generation" here is an analogy.

In a later episode "Data" notices some strange movements of staff within star fleet, there is a correlation between the movements and creating a "defense weakness"

For all you X military out there...take a closer look.


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I have always been told most of this has to do with the World Banks and the Trilateral Commission. Even so, most of these things are just theories and pretty fanciful. I would never look for answers in the Bible, at least the one Protestants use. It is just a book and not too well understood and has been influenced by scribes and a host of other people. Some of what I am reading is far out information that is considered metaphysical in nature and not accepted by a lot of people because there are no proofs to back it up. Even those who think they know break into factions. Perhaps there is a conspiracy but what will talking about it do?



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Yes Fallen,the water trail.You want names? You can find all the names you want.

He who controls the water,controls the world..Aliens or no aliens.



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Fallenstar
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How cryptic is that, are you scared of them?

Davyd, the ancient books often have elements of truth but are subject to the human "twist" when re-written. One need look no further than the puritan witch trials of the 16th century to see what ordinary folk will testify is the truth. Thus I am skeptical of all things old and re-told.

This modern study is a computer generated web that shows the links that form this Super-Corporation. It is not a could be , maybe, should be...it's real.

And yet CNN, ABC, the BBc, Bloomberg News choose not to mention it ?

So let me get this straight ...all the above will tell me about the price of rice, or coffee or how much insurance bonds are rising but will not mention who is running this "Show".

AND Guess who owns News Corp?



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Cryptic? LOL thats funny fallen.Not cryptic,just the truth.
Scared? In some ways,yes.But,I make my own water,so no,not in other ways .
But millions should be.
Do you know whats going on with water right now? If you dont,Learn.

Dont be so surprised Fallen,after all,it IS the most valuable resource on the planet.



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DAVYDENKO
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Yes...even bees honey takes on the metallic taste of Radioactivity.



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Look up HR 2421 (S 1870) Fallen..start there.



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Follow the yellow brick road..





http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/22/business/worldbusiness/22iht-water.2558706.html

Follow the yellow brick ..

http://www.investingdaily.com/id/18806/water-utilities-investing-in-water-scarcity.html

Follow the yellow brick..
T Boone Pickens

Follow the yellow brick road..
http://www.alternet.org/water/105083



Wheeee're off to see the wizard,the wonderful wizard of Ozzzz.



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Li Kai-shing,
Citigroup,
Morgan Stanley,
Deutsche Bank,
Credit Suisse,
Macquarie Bank,
Allianz SE,
UBS AG,
HSBC Bank,
Alinda Capital,
The Carlyle Group,
Barclays Bank
Nomura Holdings
Germany's RWE
World bank
Suez
Vivendi

...All of them, snatching up water.BIG as you please.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/19/world-water-stress-index-_n_863857.html



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Fallenstar
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Ok, I will follow your yellow brick road, and yes I know they like water rights for farming etc, hedge funds love it.

But they are business folks whom I think have missed the point. We are going to miss the 2 deg C target and that means more heat on the Ocean which means the 3 mile thick Ice Sheets will melt+water, water, everywhere...Pot ash is the way forward and judging by the share prices they are catching up !

As a caveat I would mention water is not the rare resource it was once thought to be, hubble has found whole Galaxies of the stuff.

Unless they plan to flood this Earth...? mmm, yes Oceanne, that makes a lot of sense, the populations live on the coast. Our amphibian friends may have a Master plan after all....warm the place up for a tropical future?



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It doesnt have anything to do with farming, Fallen.
What is the one thing that every human on the planet must have?
It might be all over space,but unless you own Virgin,the average guy isnt going into space for his own water.
Or,unless you make your own(My machine cost over 4500 dollars and mine is a SMALL one!)You are going to have to get it from .....who?

So yes,please do follow the road,because Im pretty sure you will get more than you bargained for when you really look..



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Maybe you could write a letter or something to Bretton Woods? Who knows? He might even get back to you,to let you know what HE thinks about all this global conspiracy stuff...



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And maybe send copies to Chuck McDonough or even Shaida Badiee. Here,keep this link handy,it might help you in the future..

http://api.worldbank.org/api/projects



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Oh,almost forgot.The peeps living on the coast are not important as far as this goes Fallen..the keys here are the regions that grow Wheat,rice and corn...
Hell,just wiping out those three crops would cause half the population to starve..

A little HAARP will do ya!



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Here is a little tidbit of History for ya to munch on:


"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the U. S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."


President Woodrow Wilson: 1913

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On November 21, 1933, President Franklin Roosevelt wrote a letter to Col. Edward Mandell House, President Woodrow Wilson's close advisor:

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson... "

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Professor Carroll Quigley was Bill Clinton's mentor at Georgetown University. President Clinton has publicly paid homage to the influence Professor Quigley had on his life. In Quigley's magnum opus Tragedy and Hope (1966), he states:


"There does exist and has existed for a generation, an international ... network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies... but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known."

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December 15, 1922 -- The CFR endorses World Government in its magazine Foreign Affairs. Author Philip Kerr, states:

"Obviously there is going to be no peace or prosperity for mankind as long as [the earth] remains divided into 50 or 60 independent states until some kind of international system is created... The real problem today is that of the world government."

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Fallenstar
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Fantastix , thanks to all who posted above...I have discovered more and more,,,

Talking of Moore, wasn't it he who leaked the Goldman Sachs letter..." we must be mindful that unfortunately the masses still have the power of the majority vote"....

Anyway, Wall Street have till Spring, then it's my turn and I will use MaGick !....you know, cracking stone needles.



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Voting doesn't work. Money is what speaks. The most prudent decision is to invest in the top 20 of these 149 companies, regardless of whether they're "good" or "evil".



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Fallenstar
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It has long been thought they do not listen, but they do.

Have you ever seen the film "A bugs life" or "the Griswalds Christmas" with the sell-out Chevy Chase.

Oh, yes indeed, they watch and listen and when they have a disastrous year like 2011 even "their" ears prick up.

It is OK, they are listening now as well they should.



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Probably the one global government...



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a dynasty of rich bankers have taken controll since the 18th centuary at least.did you know evellyn rothschild decides how much the gold costs every week and he controlls half the wealth of the world.all money is based on gold.if you want reall money then buy gold.as paper money and credit is still based on gold which is the reall financial means of exchange.as gold has an intrinsic value.whats a bank note?its a piece of paper.if there is a financial collapse tomorrow it will be fit for toilet paper but gold will still buy you food.and silver.



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Master Catseye you are most insightful...

HERE....lies the rub...their motto is "In Gold we trust"

I know this as my relative is a Gold dealer. The "Old school" wants to maintain this old saying.

The smart and the futurists realize it is just a metal with a few modern uses...electrical contacts etc.

Thus its present worth is vastly over stated...it's just Metal!

The Future is about generating Cheap Power !

Fusion, Helium 3...and of course Dark Energy....why else do Los Alamos love us?



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What do ya mean ? Water IS the new gold..Blue gold.

Mark my words.Ive been watching this come about for years now and its been hush hush.

Not anymore.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/10/08/the-race-to-buy-up-the-world-s-water.html



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Just a thought:

Has anyone considered that everything that is happening is rather just so blatantly put out there in order to keep you distracted from the true agenda?

We see that Billions/Trillions have been used for bank bailouts...supposedly since they "realized" that much of the money had found it's way into the private pockets of bankers and employees. And Obama had said that he was going to do something about it...that was months ago and nothing has transpired. Nothing at least, meaningful.

Fear mongering is the call to attention. Three card Molly seems to have and is working in the NWO's favor.

The housing crisis keeps people tuned into another yet elaborate scheme of the same card game...people are frantically trying to save their homes and their jobs and take little if any time to actually delve into ulterior motives of the established protocols.

Everyone is aware, or at least should be, that when the proposal to bail out the banks was first conceived, it was also brought up that a bail out of the American people would actually induce the populace to spend more and incorporate more funds into savings. The so called banks would only have had to wait for a period of roughly 6/7 months to recover...and the American people would have actually had two legs to stand on once again. It wasn't the time frame involved...it never was. It wasn't greed, that would have be satiated after the many months.

It was all a part of a much larger picture, of which the American people have no part...or at least any positive position upon the canvas being painted. This Wall Street debacle is simply an "organized" blind. It makes perfect sense for people to take up voices unto the "semi" major powers of banking, but in the long run it will, as so many of the forerunners in the 60's did...burn out in a quite fizzle, even though it is still yet another unseen card being played in the same game. Oh it makes perfect sense, but it's the dealer who decides the cards dealt.

The Ultimate Conspiracy is not a theory but a rather cold hard fact. But the only question is.....Which Conspiracy.

Like it or not...distractions are an old method of control. Steer the public in different directions, keeping their otherwise organized efforts organized and in one spot. What is it then that you are being distracted from? What is it that the Organized Order doesn't want you to see?

Keep the media filled with nonsense and the people intrigued. Everyone has a different interest so address that interest because if it isn't addressed then someone will see something they are not supposed to. So the media keeps the majority of the people amused and occupied even with trivial nonsense...another major distraction.

Relevant social issues regarding the use of drugs, immunizations, monetary matters, clean water, "global warming," wars, natural disasters (climate control as a factor added here), problems with our food supplies being contaminated, jobs (which the administration has not addressed..and I mean real jobs not some temporary BS that only teases the human spirit), disastrous educational incompetence in the school systems...and the list continues, I'm sure some of you can add to it.

So what is the real agenda? What is the Ultimate Conspiracy Fact?



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00:22:08 Nov 05 2011
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This is exactly right DD.It was funny too,ten,fifteen years ago when all the other oil guys that we do biz with started buying water..1000s upon 1000s of gallons.It was a hush hush deal and everyone was very tight lipped about it.All over the world.They were doing it yet no one knew..
Now look where everything sits and who is buying it all up.



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