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01:00:43 Feb 17 2005
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this article caught my attention and i wanted to know what others thought
its about dracula so here is link
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6980861/?GT1=6190




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01:17:08 Feb 17 2005
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Just the fact that scientists would try that is a little scary to me...
Doesn't really shock me that it works, I just can't believe it was tried...



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01:18:50 Feb 17 2005
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"Dracula may have been right, study finds"

It would certianly seem that way now. Very nice article. Hopefully a more descriptive report will follow soon.



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01:32:19 Feb 17 2005
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... No wonder Tina Turner has diyalisis (sp?) done on a regular basis ...



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03:14:51 Feb 17 2005
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very interesting



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03:24:40 Feb 17 2005
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Thanks for the info, always good.



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03:34:25 Feb 17 2005
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hmmm... one cool way of bloodfeeding... Whose A Negative!? ;P



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04:09:16 Feb 17 2005
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*sigh*, scientists.. I feel for the old mouse



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05:07:38 Feb 17 2005
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there are numerous famous types who go for transfusions just for the boost.............
keith richards being the most open about it



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09:03:30 Feb 17 2005
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i thought it was rather odd the part in dracula where three mens blood were put into a woman, i always thought it had to be the same blood type.

I'm no doctor so somebody tell me if i'm wrong. but wouldn't having rather a lot of someone elses blood inside you would mean having a lot of their dna too...

can blood be cloned? can we take a bit of blood, and then grow more? because that would be better than pumping blood from one person to another.



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09:28:31 Feb 17 2005
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That is very interesting, but to me that would make sence.



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11:03:13 Feb 17 2005
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Very cool/intresting I'll give this a lot of thought and maybe share later on but still...............



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15:31:14 Feb 17 2005
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....wow. This is a pretty interesting article.

Thanks for sharing it. *goes off to ponder*



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Echo
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17:02:23 Feb 17 2005
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I do agree that its an odd thing to try, but who knows what they get up to in those labs...

A very interesting article, thanks for sharing it with us.



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19:57:56 Feb 17 2005
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I have to say that is interesting, it has sparked my imagination on many things.... oh buddy.



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22:32:48 Feb 17 2005
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Gorey:
"but wouldn't having rather a lot of someone elses blood inside you would mean having a lot of their dna too..."

Not really, new blood cells are constantly being made in your bone marrow. So while the blood cells given to you will have different DNA, they would not be a very large amount and would not last too long in your bloodstream.

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"can blood be cloned? can we take a bit of blood, and then grow more? because that would be better than pumping blood from one person to another."

They are working on that. I think they have developed "fake" blood in a lab, which is manufacured, not taken from doners and funtions basicly the same. If they ever develop functioning bone marrow from stem cells, they will be able to create "real" blood that will be exactly as if it was taken from a human doner.



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22:48:08 Feb 17 2005
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damn that is pretty intresting



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NecrosHaemwraith
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23:14:20 Feb 17 2005
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Good to know!



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23:22:10 Feb 17 2005
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Think iI will give it a look.



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23:50:39 Feb 17 2005
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i'm just thinking about the possibility of extending human life.

you say they are creating this fake blood in labs now. of course it will be missing a few things. but we all know we get older because the DNA breaks down. I'm wondering if this fake blood if given to say... a 40 year old... would make them get younger slightly.

again, i'm no doctor, just a bit of a pondering soul



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00:15:16 Feb 18 2005
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wouldnt think that something like that would really work well some ppl after gettiing a organ transplant have picked up habbits of the former host so i guess anything is possible.



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00:18:59 Feb 18 2005
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yeah that's why i thought in Bram Stokers dracula the poor woman had three mens blood in her... her's was probably fully drained... would she even be able to live? ignoring the fact that her blood was drained by dracula



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I'm with you on that one... The first thing that came to mind was the synthetic blood. I just read something new about that just the other day. About how they have worked out the problems and are getting ready to try and produce large amounts of it for the market.

How much younger would the 'fake' blood make you feel do you suppose...

Would it make a small child feel older or younger...

I wonder if they will be able to create a specific age of blood...

finally,

Do you have to let some blood out before you let in a pint or so? How much 'over' blood can someone hold?



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01:11:28 Feb 18 2005
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i think the human body has a sort of peak... probably somewhere in the early twenties... whereby after that point the DNA breaks down and you start to age. if you were able to maintain the DNA level you would remain at that peak. so i don't think you would need synthetic blood until you reached your personal peak... a bigger question is if you missed your peak... or if you were 50 and got synthetic blood pumped into you... would you get younger with the introduction of the new DNA?



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***Skip this post if you don't like science***

It's not as simple as replacing old DNA with new DNA.

At the end of the DNA in every one of your cells is a cap which keeps the DNA in it's coiled shape (the cap is called a telomere) As you age, the cells in your body divide and multiply, therefore the DNA in your cells must multiply as well. Every time the DNA copies itself, a part of the telomere comes off. The older you get, ther smaller the telomere becomes. The breakdown of the human body as it becomes old is (theorized) to be due to the fact that eventually these telomeres breakdown completely. When this happens, the DNA unravels from its double helix shape and is unable to cpoy itself and make new cells. Therefore, the body severly breaks down and dies as more and more cells of the body stop replicating and making new cells.

So simply giving a body new blood will not stop the aging process of the human body.



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10:12:23 Feb 18 2005
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Well, what do you know...amazing. Actually, i remember something like that type of thing happening on one of the simpsons episodes :). Who would have thought it was true. That's science for you.



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So simply giving a body new blood will not stop the aging process of the human body.

won't stop it... but would it do anything? for example you're still getting new blood... won't that at least lengthen your years a bit?

i can't wait for nanobots to be invented... they can basically go to the body... target the DNA that's falling apart... hold it together... shut down... BOOM! immortality baby!


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12:36:42 Feb 18 2005
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intresting very intresting



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Actually, they have already invented nanobots, or a basic type of them. It will still be years before we see them in a more sophisticated design and function though. But yeah, it would be cool for them to do it sooner. :)



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13:53:28 Feb 18 2005
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Ok.....that's kinda creepy....Mainly in the since that they might try to test thid theory on human...



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15:22:19 Feb 18 2005
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Thats a bit odd....



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"Actually, they have already invented nanobots, or a basic type of them. It will still be years before we see them in a more sophisticated design and function though."

Yeah, so far the nanobots they have created are still fairly large conpared to the incredably small size needed to manipluate something as small as DNA or atoms. When this step is reached it will completely revolutionize the world in every field.



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23:15:02 Feb 18 2005
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Immortality, I dont know what I think of that. It does sound good in a lot of ways, but would anyone really want to live forever?



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00:12:12 Feb 19 2005
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I'd enjoy it upuntil the point I realized that I would never die.

Don't laugh, think about. The human life is only significant because it is finite and relatively short. If I was imortal I would never have the enery to do things because I could literally put them off forever. After the initial novelty wore off it would become quite boring and depressing. Especially if no one else was imortal and every 100 years everyone you ever knew was dead. It would be very depressing to follow this cycle forever.



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But look at the good side of it....Being immortal, you could do anything and everything without the fear of it killing you...you could go into the rainforests and discover new plants and animals without fear of sickness, you could see future of humanity and its fate...and even if those you love passed on, you could still be there for their children and their children's children and so on...it really wouldn't be so bad...



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01:15:17 Feb 19 2005
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in theroy the new blood would not make you immortal;

i am however going to disagree for the sake of the unkown

yes people are going to say i am an idoit and what not

but i take this postition, you never know untill you try, this kind of test has never been fully implemented in a scientfic study to my knoweldge

therefore it is not quite correct to me anyway to say that this would/could not make a person truly immortal

after all the earth was thought flat untill someone sailed around it

i am not saying that it will make a person immortal, i am just saying that i don't know but i would be interested in having the study conducted, that is if it could be passed as ethical



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