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how the hell does one little piece of paper give some one the right to tell you that you are crazy and are suffering from depression just because you have decide to view the world differently to others hell you are in tiled to have our say aren't we if we are then why are we told we need to change and become normal. what the hell is normal any way there is no particular type of normal and who gives people to right to decide what the hell is normal

eh the world is a fucked up place...

you got that right it is really fucked up at times

Oh, alot of questions in your thread...which are hardly answerable.
Well they should have that right cos they are doctors and they know the illness...
Wait but I dont understand. They will do it only if you ll go visit them...and this should be from your own will, so you are supposed to accept it...Am I not right?

umm...that's why you don't go to a quak they could be 10x as fucked up then the patient themselves!

=) Thats true!!
I agree on that

very true thera!

the doc says im insane but the docs in my head say "nah your cool sushi! get going lil fella!", so im just like whatever and keep doing what makes me happy. it should not matter as long as you ain hurting your self or anyone around you yo!

those qaucks base things on a majority,,,group...there is no reall base for normal,,,everyone is differant

Sushisan your right, in that case u can be like u want to be.....unless u r happy =)

never mind if somebody tells u that u re crazy or whatever they say u re,important is how u feel and i can say that sometimes,when i am under a depression i really feel like crazy...and in these days the last thing which i need to hear is-u re not normal,u re sick...so dont listen to these people cause they cant help u,they ll just make u a worse mood than u already got.

*see's thread*

*rolls eyes*

ahhhh the immortally repeated question of depression.

everybody gets it at some point on different levels... most cases are taken on incorrectly and it always ends up worse than when it started...

there's only one way to beat depression. figure out why you're depressed and cut it out of your life. surround yourself in people who love you. how can you NOT be happy with people around you that you love and love you back?

Hell yeah!
Nothing is worse then that!
I think they should help by telling u that it will be ok...Because it will! Its always a way out from the depression! And the best cure is positive thinking(I know its hard from the beggining) and trying to have fun with the ppl u love!!

Depression....bla bla bla......how can it be an illness.....bla bla bla.......people who diagnose it are more screwed than anyone else....bla bla bla.

A medical degree probably.

Just because someone syas your crazy doesn't mean you are, but its an aducated guess. Im sure this piece of paper didnt say 'CRAZY' on...

You are as insane as you allow yourselves to be called

I perfer nutter to crazy but both seem to fit by definition.

Does it really matter what others choose to call you?

Call me what you will as long as you arent calling collect.

But seriously if a diagnosis helps then it has served its function
If it harms it is doing the opposite.

mew mew

some of u re talking about a serious illness -depression but i think to be stressed and to be under a pressure is called depression as well but normally people dont care a lot about stressed people and some of them d really help u just when u re already in hospital with diagnose depression...thats why i am happy to have perfect people around me and its important to have nice people next to u in good and bad times,hm?

Heh The metal hospital said I need to stay till January but Since I was making progress I could get out.. Lol Its not the paper that says it, Its whom reads it. If I were to read it I would say your perfectly sane to me.. But alast I see the world DIFFERENTLY...hehehehe

i think that the world is totally fucked and fucked up. everyone is crazy in 1 way or another.

darkandenchatedfairy i agree with you 100%, i know how you feel.People say the same thing to me, and and say am too much a pessimist.I feel am a realist.I dislike ppl who continue to annoy me with their hyperism, i just say things how they really are after all life is not a fairy tale so why not facing reality?

hmm... there is no defenition for normal really, just something else that someone can label you by I guess....

idk y normaly and lately i have been quite happy and content with life but recently i have been quite depressed like i really don't care if i wake up or not depression and it bothers me idk y i got the money i got a car i got a job i got a girl what am i doing wrong idk.. to be honest i think im bipolar cuz ill be having a good day and outa no where ill gt al depressed and quite and stuff or ill get all hyper outa no where idk and none of the doctors can find anything "wrong"

all of you have some really good points and like most of you have said or agreed witht the others it is all in what you believe, you believe that you ar crazy then you will be, believe that you are depressed and you will be

i agree with outgoing, they do make a basis on majority, its always on majority its the minority that gets factored out, plue they try to make out they are making an assesment bout u as an individual, but really it comes down to majority, thats what i hate bout the system, its all based on the majority.

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i dont think there is a normal. everyone has ther different opinions about what is normal so how can someone says ur normal if no one nos what it is

Define crazy? How can crazy possibly have a medical term. I work in the medical profession as a state registered paramedic, and trust me, corners are cut everywhere. Money is gambled on new schemes and wasted. People just put a stamp on something labelling "crazy" after just meeting them. Its not on and not right. Shrinks are just people who probably are nuts themselves.

normal is just the mediocre who cant excel nor seem to fail

so normal on a scale of one to ten
3-7 would be normal
with 0-2 being an extreme
and 8-10 being an extreme

so who really wants mediocrity?
I am mad as the hatter and functional mostly so depression be damned

I agree with Gorey way up there. Who cares what these 'doctors' think. I've been told i have ADHD/Mild Depression. but, hey, I'm not depressed (most of the time), I'm happy because I have many freinds that are there for me just as I am for them. When I think that there is no reason to go on I just have to remember my freinds and how I would be leaving them to fend for themselves in this fucked up place we live in. I don't think there is a person on this planet that isnt depressed. I also dont think that the doctors have a clue what theyre talking about half the time.
(sorry if i went off the topic)

Nobody knows what depression is unless they have suffered it themselves.

Yes , and thats why I dont like now, when someone uses that word just for nothing....like when he is sad or whatever, because its uncompareable....

Depression is an outward sign of a person who is not busy enough. If you are depressed, get a job, a hobby, go to school... soon you will be too busy to dwell on your feelings..

I've never heard anyone with depression being called "crazy" but thats a different kettle of fish.
But how does a "quack" define depression hhhmmm good question I think that they "measure" the person with possible depression against their background i.e Economic enviroment, peers, social norms, e.t.c and if the person does not generally fit the social "norm" and are unhappy they are classed as depressed but then again I could be wrong that is just my general take on it :)

yes but what if a person has no friends nor family?and has all sorts of probs? how in that case a person can think in a positive way?

Sure its really difficult than.... Its possible but only strong personalyties are able to think positive in that case. And Im not even sure If such strong one exists...

ye like when it happened to me