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Now this is not some thread for people to simply go around say "I have this and that" its to find out how an extraordinary ability would work and how it would manifest. Members with a good deal of scientific and psychological knowledge are most certain welcome and wanted here.

Let us start of with Telekinesis, the ability to move things with one's mind.

How would it work?

The brain would obviously have some part in it with the control and all, but where would be the source?
How would it manifest?
And how does it affect the world?
Is there some sort of force field extending from the brain to the object?

A lot people say it requires you to think about moving it but since no one has ever proving themselves telekinetic, I'm guessing that is not how one would do it. No one thinks about moving an arm, it just does it when you want to move it.

Electrokinesis may have at least some basis to work off, the human body has electric field and people can shock each other through static.

Well let the theories, questions and answers (if any) begin.

Apologies for the typos and mistakes in my original post, I am posting this because I forgot to add more to the post, I had posted it too soon it seems.

Here is a list of specific abilities that I was going to add in the original post. If there is any ability you know of that is not on the list and you would want to know how it works then post it but the ability has to have something to work off, nothing that would be completely impossible i.e flying with no wings.

Telekinesis.
I already gave a brief description of it.

Electrokinesis.
The ability to manipulate or create electricity, in a way people do have this, especially if you consider static to be a small form of EK. I know many people who have indeed been shocked by someone just by shaking hands or hugging.

Pyrokinesis.
The ability to produce or manipulate fire.
Like Electrokinesis, this ability can work off the human body due to the changing temperatures but even if a human could control the their heat until combustion, the resulting effects would harm the subject.


Cryokinesis.
Same as above though in the opposite direction, if one could change their temperature to the point of freezing, then they would harm themselves.


Precognition.
The ability to detect future events.
This ability is not so far fetched, indeed one would only need to be an excellent at observing and have high intuition to predict and anticipate things.

Psychometry.
The ability to become familiar with and know and object's history.
This is not so impossible either as people do leave imprints on objects, their fingerprints, their scent and if they have static problems, they can make the object static which can shock people.

Kinetic abilities.
The idea behind those is to transmit energy on a distance or by touch in a specific form. I would focus here on manipulating the inner energy fields in the human body that involves conscious influence on breath, heart rate => blood flow. This would allow the build up of necessary amounts of energy to be transmitted. Then in order to transmit the energy we would have to find a resonance frequency of the object. Each atom for example has it's specific frequency at which it "operates". This is the principle behind microwave ovens - the coils resonate at the frequency of water molecules, electromagnetic waves hit the water, electrons jump on a higher orbital generating heat. If the object we focus on is combustible it could catch fire.

For electrokinesis to exist there must be a steady flow of the current and a significant potential difference between points. Human body generates small amounts of electricity which isn't normally enough to create a spark (small Tesla coil producing 1cm spark requires few thousand Volts to do it, potential difference of human skin is measured in milliVolts), but ! under certain conditions people can endure real punishment from electricity. There was one serbian guy who could hold 2 forks together connected to high voltage and fry a sausage without any injury( you can find it on youtube). This suggests that with proper training and conditioning we can expand our voltage span.

Psychic abilities.
I think this is much easier to grasp. There are many studies and clinical trials that describe these abilities. One of the key factors here would be the control of the pineal gland. It is believed to be the seat of the soul and a link to the 3rd eye chakra. Biologically it is responsible for things like day-night cycle and dreaming.
I believe that the natural state of mind is outside the boundaries of time and space. This is why people in sensory deprivation conditions loose the sense of time flow and with some luck are able to have visions of the past and the future. This is also backed up by quantum mechanics, holographic theory of the mind, hyperspace and multidimensional theories and experiments on remote viewing like the ones done by Ingo Swann.

These topics are very, very broad. If you want I can dig a bit deeper and find more. I have many books about these kind of things if you're interested.

precognition.....I'm still getting to grips with how it works for me but it would seem that it's more like an absorption of energy from a situation or person, that manifests itself into dreams to show me something that could occur, and almost always does....when I analyse it more I will give a more detailed answer....but it's always just been instinctive so I've always just accepted it as it is without trying to understand the whys, where's and what's.....but the power of the mind is vast in all it's possibilities and potential....

Yes, Fallen certain things work by instinct and like I said in my original post, one does not think about moving their arm, it does it when you want to and by instinct, so maybe if it is ever possible, telekinesis works like that. A more down-to-earth version of precognition exists for certain because its part of the natural and survival Instinct.

A person with high intuition and good observation skills, can predict movements by watching muscle movements and body language. One can even sense someone's mood, just by look at a single line round the eye.

This may be strange, but ever hear of a "gaydar"? apparently some people can tell another's orientation just by looking at them even if they have no stereotypical signs whatsoever, this may be part of a mating instinct so the human animal can see who is suitable and compatible. Basically one can simply know things just by observing and feeling their "gut" instincts.

Seidr, good post and yes I would like very much if you could dig deeper for more info, also your part about electrokinesis is very interesting, you say the human body can be trained to withstand electrical harm and that the human body cannot give enough voltage to create a spark.

What if it can be amplified somehow? maybe artificially and if successful, could the electricity be manifested as a spark or more?

The human body has a lot of energy, if they can somehow build up enough to as you say, transmit it; then there is potential for new things to be discovered and new ways to use that energy.

It is disturbing that after all these years, no one has proven the existence of certain abilities, and yet reports of it prevail, in fact there is a load of cash waiting for someone can prove that they telekinetic.

I believe manifestations of these things are much more subtle than we expect .No one can really prove these things exist,because few few,if anyone an make it happen a will.Thats part of the problem.

True but with that money being offered, you would think more people would try and prove it.

A common excuse would be that they don't want government agents after them, problem with that excuse is that if psychic abilities exist the government would have already known about it ages ago.


Maybe people simply don't know how to access the energy, maybe what needs to be done is for some sort amplifier to be created to help transmit and expel the energy.

The kind of energy that we would like to see used would be kinetic energy as well as electrical and heat energy.

Electrokinesis has a good start already, since the human body can be very static, has anyone ever been shocked by someone simply by touching them?

@Mordrakus
It's curious you ask about touching someone and feeling a jolt. In winter when it's freezing outside I tend to get a static zap when I try to touch anything metallic. Very annoying thing I must add.

@Oceanne
It is true that without proper training that began in early childhood these abilities can be hard to control. We are indeed dealing with subtle energies (especially when it comes to psychic phenomena) but I believe that precise measuring equipment is able to detect them. The problem here is that research about these subjects is usually classified and the official government policy is denial and misdirection.


About the Electric Man.
I mentioned the man who was unaffected by high voltage, here is a link to a youtube video about him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY745NxZwsY
Apparently he isn't the only one who has these abilities, if you search for "electric man" on YT there is another guy from India. In the vid they hypothesize that his ability is linked to dryness of his skin which is hereditary in his family. They also say that when he's charged up and you touch him you'll be zapped and possibly fried extra crispy.

One of the reasons for electrocution is that electricity penetrates the skin layer usually because of sweat which is a great conductor (water+salt=electrolyte).

When I was researching things like MK Ultra and mind control I stumbled upon an interview with Duncan O'Finioan who said that he was taking part in a secret military research program that was a continuation of MKU. He was trained to be a supersoldier with augmented strength. The reason why I mention this is the fact that in order to amplify his abilities he was implanted with a small device that stimulated his muscles thus increasing his power. So one way they do this is via implants. Maybe there are implants to amp up things other than strength ?

Psychic abilities.
Another method to increase psychic abilities, also used in military (navy) programs was contact with dolphins. For some reason the ultrasounds they produce somehow increase human sensitivity leading to development of empathy which is a foundation for telepathy.

Next thing that is being used in opening the mind to psychic abilities are psychedelics, mainly the tryptamine based alkaloids that mimic endogenous serotonin acting as agonists or partial agonists (they bind to a receptor and activate it in some way). The receptors that play a vital role here are called 5-HT2A.

According to one source the key to psychic abilities is affecting the thalamus region of the brain. It is believed that it's responsible for filtering the sensory information that enter the conscious mind. If we remove this filter we will be able to get 100% of the sensory data that comes to us.

There is one invention that enables people to achieve mystical states of mind, it's called the God Helmet or Persinger's Helmet. It consists of a group of solenoids (coils) placed over temporal lobes which generate weak rotating magnetic fields that stimulate these regions of the brain.

Hmm... I wonder what else to add. Maybe it'll come later. Very interesting discussion btw.

Nice response, I will check the electric man out, it actually reminded me of someone who was very magnetic, metal would stick to him easily. It was in the papers a few years back.

Empathy is one of those abilities that a lot of people can have if they are in tune with their instincts. Non-human animals such as dogs can sense mood changes easily and its why they cower if they sense their alpha is angry even of no expression of anger is taken i.e shouting or smashing things.

I also heard that animals like dogs can sense a disease in a person i.ex. cancer and sometimes they will try to bite it out which can be mistaken for an attack.

Instinct is an interesting thing. In evolved humans it becomes intuition that might give birth to precognition.

Indeed, I have already mentioned that a high level intuition and good observation skill can result in a more mundane precognition i.e can tell the next movement of someone by studying their body language and muscle twitches under the skin.

Yes, I heard that about dogs as well, remarkable instincts they have. Humans have not properly used theirs in years because of the modern living conditions. Instincts are like muscles, if you don't use them then they will fade.

excellent post . . thank you . .

for myself I have many abilities/gifts . . all natural born . . as I've grown through the years others started giving me labels for what happens to me . . I did however receive one label *Sensiti* if that's how it's spelled . .

Being a Sensiti includes all abilities and gifts on a Very subtle level . . there are some abilities here that you've mentioned that I am yet to master . . or maybe it is that they are not needed for what I am . .?

The ability I have an am fully awake of . . is the ability to see past/present and future happenings with graphic detail . . I can also see negativity in the form of visual effect . . meaning . . I see the violence as a video tape when I look at people . . I also know what people are feeling at any given moment . .

Thank you for the stimulation of this thread . .

PsychoCat . .

p.s. FallenAngel13 is my real life sister . .

"@Oceanne
It is true that without proper training that began in early childhood these abilities can be hard to control. We are indeed dealing with subtle energies (especially when it comes to psychic phenomena) but I believe that precise measuring equipment is able to detect them. The problem here is that research about these subjects is usually classified and the official government policy is denial and misdirection."

I feel you are talking remote viewing and the other natural y occuring entrainment things that contribute to things like telepathy,precognition,heightened empathy..thethings that we all do as humans that onvolve different forms of circadian rhythm.As far as the goverments use,yes,they certainly hone it but are able to only to a degree.They do many experiments,yes.Germans where notorious for it..just look at the Bell or Venus flytrap etc..

I would like to touch on the animal aspect too..thats all scent and has naught to do with a 6th sense so to speak.
Just as cats healing bone with their purring..yea,they do indeed do this but the healing component is resonance.The Dolphins, as mentioned above.This is an extremely interesting and exciting subject to me because of what I understand of resonance and Cymatics.

One of my favorite projects on this..

http://www.speakdolphin.com/ResearchItems.cfm?ID=20

Cymatics is one of my all time fav subjects.Here is a good link..

http://www.tokenrock.com/cymatics/cymatics_today.php

Im pretty sure once you see some of these images and read a bit about it,you will find it interesting also. And see connections .Enjoy!

I understand its not a sixth sense oceanne, my point was that a lot of animals have powerful senses that to humans it can seem to border on the preternatural but humans could have had these senses though likely duller if they still lived in the wild and trained their senses. If you don't use them then they fade.


I had recently watched that video seidr, very interesting. A human that can absorb lethal amounts of electricity and for a short time afterward be charged enough to be able to electrify things, even power a light.

There was another guy in india who could do it as well and according to the man who was interviewing the indian electric man, the reason he could withstand electricity is because his skin has an insane amount of resistance compared to normal humans, however one must try and keep logical and their wits because tv can lie, though it seemed genuine. The serbian electric man is in the Guinness book of records for his ability.

A man like that with an amplifying implant or gauntlet could perhaps be able to spark electricity or store the power for longer, a single touch from the serbian while charged will certainly shock someone.

How is he able to do it?

The indian guy has higher resistance in his skin, so that is a partial explanation, though a better one would be wanted. The serbian said his skin is dry as a reason but he also put the electrified material in his mouth which would obviously be wet and still remained unharmed therefore its nothing to do with dryness.

Any thoughts on this?

Ok, I found some info about the electric man that could explain his ability:

"Some scientists say that Slavisa has no salivary and sweat glands and so the current is unable to pass though his body.
Infact, it passes on the outside skin of his body. The skin then acts as a Natural Insulator. They further say that this exceptional capability can be due to the genetic effect."

Another website describes a man from China with similar abilities although they attribute the effect to thickness of his skin and lower body voltage than the average human.

Also the next factor could be the tight spacing of skin cells or the hydro-lipid layer that is more fatty and less hydro (fat has insulating properties).

Oceanne, I also found the cymatic effect to be very interesting. I tried once to replicate this using a speaker playing sounds from a synthesizer, a glass sheet and salt on top of it, however the most spectacular effect I achieved was the messy floor covered with salt :)

It seems to be connected to fractals too. Maybe the patterns can be described using a fractal equations ? I will check the websites you gave links to.

There are several threads in the archives about this..including electro man and the man with the eye beams but I cant remember the names of those threads.

You mention Fractals..you are in for a pleasant suprise once you catch up on your cymatics.:) There is a thread about that also,and talks about the Mandelbrot,scroll energy (Scaffolding)and other related subjects.I will try to remeber the names of those threads...its been a few years since we talked of this in the forum.Im glad its been brought back up.:)

Oceanne...did you just say eye beams? well I got to know about that :)

That video about the serbian electro man said some of his family members displays some resistance to electricity, so it has a source in the genetic pool then. I wonder if it can be replicated, won't have to wear gloves then to handle electrical power and no need for clown buzzers. XD

So what about pyrokinesis or cryokinesis? any theories on that?

Also there are people with a strange magnetic ability, who can stick metal to themselves but what if that ability can be extended somewhat? if the body can put out a repelling magnetic field, they could move metal objects away from themselves without touching it.

Oh yeah,just look him up.I believe his name is Dr. Ross.

We have talked alot about DMT and other endorphins in this forum too.You can find many threads pretaining to it and here is one link to one of those threads.
Great topic!!

https://www.vampirerave.com/forum/message.php?message=25432&group=1&catid=1

Thread on electric people..

https://www.vampirerave.com/forum/message.php?message=25409&group=1&catid=1

Just checked out Dr. Ross, read the blog but have not watched the video, it seems (so far anyway) that his ability is technological rather than natural, is this ability something that he is amplifying with tech or is the ability created solely through tech?

I will watch the video of it shortly as well as checking out those forum links.

For those interested, here is the blog link. http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2008/08/colin_ross_has_an_eyebeam_of_e.php

Dr. Ross is a hack, and all his "data" is tainted by biased research. He has been playing games with the James Randi Foundation for years, and has yet to produce a Peer reviewable article, yet he insist that he is perpetually writing one.

I also checked out the website about Dr. Ross, the video too and I can't say I'm convinced. First of all extraordinary inventions that use tin foil make me suspicious. He also doesn't want to share much about this software he's using so well it could be anything and everything.

These threads, especially the one about DMT were interesting as well. I did a lot of research on shamanism and psychedelics. No one mentioned ayahuasca which surprises me as it is a vital part of the DMT study. It's also another link to telepathy, even one of the ingredients of this Indian enteogenic brew is called telepathine (harmine).

Oceanne, you mention the Torsion Fields a lot as one of the key factors for the existence of psychic phenomena. It reminded me of a parallel study by Dr Rupert Sheldrake and his Morphic Fields, which are a kind of blueprints for almost everything that exists. To quote after Wikipedia:

"The term [morphic fields] is more general in its meaning than morphogenetic fields, and includes other kinds of organizing fields in addition to those of morphogenesis; the organizing fields of animal and human behaviour, of social and cultural systems, and of mental activity can all be regarded as morphic fields which contain an inherent memory.
—Rupert Sheldrake, The Presence of the Past (Chapter 6, page 112)"

This concept might go well in hand with Jungian Collective unconscious, another link to telepathy or even further - global consciousness.

We agreed on that then Dabs,and we agree on that now.But the concept is questionable in some aspects.. a person can deffinately feel when someone is staring at them.

I don't buy much into ross either, even if its true it still looks tech based, I am looking for organic/biological abilities even if they would need an amplifier to increase it. Abilities created by tech is already explained by the tech and the function itself, the human body is far more complex and thus more interesting though I would be willing to hear more about a tech-sourced abilities if they are interesting.


I am glad you mentioned telepathy as in a way we all have it.
From a basic view of the average person, the brain is just meat and water but with it one can conjure up images, dreams, fantasies and in that, there is sound, nothing from the outside, but we can sort of "hear" what we want to hear in them, we can put a voice or music to it.

So if we think of the brain as a very very shortwave transmitter, then one would simply need to amplify that to create a signal wave and also to create something to make another human's brain act as a receiver to get those "thoughts" etc that the other human can send.

There is a fantastic lecture by Dr Persinger (the one I mentioned when talking about the God Helmet) about the brain, the way it works, telepathy, remote viewing, communication between animals and much more. If you have an hour I strongly advise everyone who's interested to watch it. Here is the link:

Michael Persinger - No More Secrets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l6VPpDublg

Several recent articles about how birds navigate and predators smell, funny that since Vamps have amazing smell senses.

It centres upon the theory that even in photosynthesis biology is sneaky and when energy wavicles from the Sun appear in two places at the same time....

clever leaves have the inate ability to trap the more energised part of the two.

Thats what a Billion years of evolution(and death)do for the Green things...smacks his own hand, I mean leaves.

So what does this mean? Simples, everything is connected by spiderwebs that vibrate at slightly different frequencies. I see them as colours, so whenever we touch or interact we gain more webs.

Example, love ones we spend more time with attach a huge amont of threads.Even if they go far away we can often feel others, this is why we know they are dialling our phone numbers.

Complex example; I type this thread, computer generates letters, eye to digital threads attach and also keyboard touch threads are formed, you read it believing we have had no contact? Wrong, my brain , eye, touch threads use the digital ether to touch your mind via this computer. Scared? don't be, I am boring.
In this way, magick makes perfect sense if savants know just what threads to jingle, this is why music, the most basic form of threads...is universal.

I have no proof, just what I see and experience. TGK.

Ooops forgot article ...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21150046

heck... is the ability to tell if someone is smiling over the phone something special??? or, to determine when someone will phone, before they do, perhaps???

The "ability" to "sense" when someone is calling is a beast of another mundane type, all it is is the mind catching schedules that are subconsciously imprinted. For example you haven't heard from the person that is calling, and the average time that person calls has passed, the minds cue places them at the forefront of thought, and when the phone rings that preoccupied name comes up.

"feeling" when we are being watched is another mundane inherent instinct. When we enter an environment we subconsciously register all the vantage points in the area, as well as places a second party may occupy. This instinct presses us to conclusions that may be correct in a percentage of cases.

The beauty is,they ARE mudane.Yet still very amazing in the overall picture.

And it might be a good time to say,while I completely know that electro peeps,empathy,telepathy and precognition are of the mudane nature and I see them happen every day,I dont believe people are capable of straight up telekinesis and the like.At this point in evolution,anyway.

PsychoCat, you mentioned that you possess the ability to see future events. How does that relate to the ideas of free will(choice) vs. determinism/destiny and multiple timelines ? It's curious that you also can see negativity in a visual form, does it also apply to other emotions ?
I want to add here that this particular ability (visualization of moods of others) also occurs during ayahuasca(DMT) rituals. The participants are able to see emotional states of others in a form of geometric patterns, if I remember it right in one case someone got angry at another participant (while tripping) which resulted in directing a stream of sharp red triangles (or other spiky figures) shooting at that person. Sound also played a vital role in navigating through hallucinations, memories and places of the experiencer (cymatic instructions?).

TheeGreenKnight, are you referring to the corpuscular-wave nature of photons ? If that is the case can you explain how the plants are able to choose between these two forms of photons ? Because if that is really the case it could be a clue to how another ability works - phase shifting.
I read the article about the quantum smell and to me it makes a lot of sense. Made me think of a battery that is either charged or discharged. It's shape doesn't change but the properties do. It's not an example of a quantum effect, just a metaphor that popped up in my head.
Btw. I am aware of this psychic link effect even right now. It's one of the reasons why I like VR :)

Angelus, IMO the ability to know if someone is smiling over the phone might be a result of noticing the shifting of the voice pattern (pitch, intervals) due to a different configuration of face muscles. One also might expect the other person to smile after saying something humorous. If none of the above are true (depends on the situation) it also might be a result of the webs that TGK mentioned earlier.
The knowledge that someone might call prior to this occurring could be something special as you put it. I'd also attribute this effect to this invisible webbing that links us, which might be in fact the global consciousness grid at work, on a smaller or larger scale.

"The beauty is,they ARE mudane.Yet still very amazing in the overall picture.

And it might be a good time to say,while I completely know that electro peeps,empathy,telepathy and precognition are of the mudane nature and I see them happen every day,I dont believe people are capable of straight up telekinesis and the like.At this point in evolution,anyway."

Indeed oceanne, its what amuses me a lot, human animals already have the potential to possess great "abilities" which comes down to instinct. Checking out an area is the survival instinct kicking in, its one of the only instincts that still runs strong in the human animal.


Telekinesis could be possible though oceanne, it would just need tech help to manifest it in a way we want it to, example, humans have an electrical field and some have a very strong magnetic one which makes objects stick to them. Now if there was an implant or some other device to amplify it and change the magnetic field to repel rather than attract, then a metal object can be moved without touching it...though that would not be considered strictly telekinesis but its a start.


Angelus, one can know when someone is smiling by voice pitch and the tone of the speaker, while certainly mundane, some require a great deal of empathy and intuitiveness to detect that, so it is pretty much an ability but a mundane one. As for knowing when someone is about to call, yes that is a possibility of precognition though it could a mundane version of one too.
With high intuitiveness and instinct, one can know the patterns and schedules etc. If the caller has no known patterns and it was just a wrong number and you sensed the call coming, well that is interesting then.

Possible,yes.Due to several mechanisms.(especially sound and/or magnetics)But are we doing it now? No.I dont believe so.I feel we have a little ways to go .

Telekinesis might seem like something far ahead of us in our evolutionary journey but it's not always the case. Evolution isn't constant, it has it's ups and downs, sudden spikes and anomalies.
In order for us to understand how to move things with our minds we need first to discover what it is exactly that holds them in place, I am referring to gravity. Yes, we know that there are 4 major forces that build the universe (weak nuclear, strong nuclear, electromagnetic and gravitational) but we don't yet fully understand them and interactions between them, especially when it comes to gravity. The existence of particles responsible for this force (gravitons) are still hypothetical.

These threads have info in pretaing to this subject..

https://www.vampirerave.com/forum/message.php?message=15913&group=1&catid=1

This thread especially has some good links that can help tie it all in..

https://www.vampirerave.com/forum/message.php?message=15913&group=1&catid=1

Thats just it Seider,we might understand a process that could be responsible,but that doesnt mean we are capable.

Also,while I do know things Ive mentioned before happen,because I experience them all the time,not once have I ever seen someone moving something or altering an object with the mind alone.
Now,with that said,Im not saying it cannot happen,cause I feel otherwise.However,it cld be possible that an object somewhere else in the world is being affected instead of the object in front of us..And perhaps only certain things.It could also be that there is a time factor involved.You know what I mean?

I do, Perhaps it is more than just movement with the mind, maybe its the mind moving and altering the space between and around the object which as a consequence moves the object as well.

Gravity, electricity and magnetism may play a part in it. In low gravity situations a person can levitate, despite (to the human eye) nothing under or around them, so one need to somehow alter gravity to move an object but only the area the object is in would need that manipulation.

Call me crazy but I think we can crack the universe ;) I'm formulating a unified theory of unified theories. This model will depict the structure of everything, taking into account many theories we all mentioned before, I'll post it when it's ready, hopefully soon.

Well there is lot of atoms and other small invisible stuff around us. We just to learn how to manipulate it to be able to use it affect objects.
Take your time with your theories, Look forward to seeing them, I am still goinig through the thread links at the moment.

Whether people could possibly do TK is something I will get back to soon, I am currently wondering if it can be done solely by tech regardless if the a person has the ability naturally or not.

If one limits TK to push, pull and lift etc then that can easily be done by some sort of high powered magnet but it would need to be quite advanced than usual and with more control over its attract and repel traits i.e one can quickly switch from push to pull or even push with more magnetic power to throw the object with extreme force, kind of like a rail-gun.

So I am thinking, gauntlets....which should be magnetic and have an effect on gravity too. Problem with this that it will unlikely be controlled by the mind so that takes away the actual definition of telekinesis but one can at least be able to move objects with touching them.

Seidr, ahem yes, I think you gave the technical corpuscular wave form of light, but yes it doesnt really fit into particle or wave but a blend.
You seek the Holy Grail? unified theory, love to see you do it.
They will not let you, as Masters of the Servers, you know engineers of IT, they will alter paremeters and digits and mess up your theories, even if you get it right.

A great deal of thought went into our reality why the hell would they give you the keys?

Savants have the only glimpses, by rational impartial thought and only then becuase they allow it to be so.

I know it is really hard to accept you are an amoeba but hey, if the cap fits.

By accepting your place you will gain more enlightenment. ?

But a caveat, crack on, I want to see how far you get before one plus one equals minus two.

Neural network system reboot...

Ok, here it is.

There were many attempts to unify all the forces of the universe in theoretical physics. The goal was to take the all four elements of the grand equation and come up with a common denominator for them.Because this is the sphere of theoretical physics we are dealing with concepts that are probable but not completely verified.
Holographic theory as described in the book Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot is a concept that covers the nature and structure of the perceived external world in relation to the mind of the observer. It is important because we have to know our territory. Hologram is used as a model to depict how things work.
"A hologram is produced when a single laser light is split into two separate beams. The first beam is bounced off the object to be photographed. Then the second beam is allowed to collide with the reflected light of the first. When this happens they create an interference pattern which is then recorded on a piece of film. (...) as soon as another laser beam (...) is shined through the film, a three-dimensional image of the original object appears." M.Talbot, The Holographic Universe, p.14,15
The picture on the holographic film might remind you of fractals, cymatic patterns, mandalas, x-ray crystallography pictures and so on.

Science in all it's splendor and glory is still unable to find the real atom (gr. Atomos -indivisible), the fundamental building block of the universe. One of the popular theories postulates that the basic structure of everything that is, was and ever will be is a one dimensional object called a superstring (Superstring Theory).
"According to the theory, the fundamental constituents of reality are strings of the Planck length (about 10−33 cm) which vibrate at resonant frequencies. Every string, in theory, has a unique resonance, or harmonic. " Wikipedia, Superstring theory article.

We now combine the two models together and use the superstring as the source of the harmonic, which is our laser that creates the hologram of a real object. Question arises what will be the object that we'll photograph ? In our case it will be Earth because WE are the Earth. Following the concept our souls would be a set of modulated superstring instructions that are introduced to the Earth's environment. Earth in this model would be a collection of cymatic-like patterns containing genetic programs responding to supersting/soul carrier input signal. It starts to sound like the Matrix movie and yes that's intended. "Matrix is a system Neo" "some rules can be bent, others can be broken" - this would be the basis for the abilities mechanics.
Each object is tuned in with the cymatic set of patterns of the Earth, so according to the model if we knew how to produce the right pattern that resonates with the object we would do all sorts of things to it, move it, change it, make it fly, make it catch fire etc. This could be done by either readjusting the vibration of our bodies (bio-auric method) or by using sets of resonators (technology). We use a lot of quartz resonators to create precise harmonic vibrations in objects like watches, computers, electronic instruments, synthesizers, radar and sonar technologies, lasers and so on. We could also create resonator implants to boost our bio signals to increase our abilities.

I'd like to know what you think about this.

This theory is the basis of and included within all the links I have presented for 6 years in threads here of this nature.
I wish I could only find my summary.You might be surprised in just how similar.

Spiritual teachers have known for ages that our body is programmable by language, words and thought,Seidr. This has been scientifically proven and explained pretty well if you ask me. The human DNA is essentially a biological Internet, and is far superior in many aspects to an artificial one.
Interestingly enough,the latest scientific research directly or indirectly explains phenomena such as clairvoyance, intuition, spontaneous and remote acts of healing, self healing, affirmation techniques, unusual light/auras around people and seem to influence weather patterns even.

That is right oceanne, the human body is like a sponge and a mosaic peace, it can change and absorb to accommodate new info and the beauty of that, is that it can be permanent so memory loss might not be a problem due to muscle memory and familiarity.
I myself have the high intuition and I find despite its simplicity and seemingly mundane situation, it can be almost extraordinary. Observation skills are heightened and one is able to deduce things much faster than others, one can read body language and very slight facial expressions, its more of an instinct than anything else since anyone with good survival instincts would be very observant of their environment.

While some are naturally gifted than others, one can still learn to be able to be highly intuitive and so it might be the same for other abilities in that others can learn to do unusual things.


Seidr, your post is very good indeed and interesting, one way I have been theorizing on how to obtain abilities is by changing our own bodies biologically, both internally and even externally to be able to attune and affect different objects.

I am not just talking about naturally now but either by tech or genetic engineering. Chameleons can change colors, starfish and lizards can regenerate etc.
What if we could introduce those traits by genetic engineering?
Could work but first we have to solve the transplant issue since it would be a foreign element, the human body will reject it. I have a few ideas on how to get past that which I could explain later.
Genetic tampering is an old theory and a used avenue but it is still one that can have potential.

I still like what I have read of and, hear of ... the Super Soldier idea/programme...

sheer theory, I wonder?

makes damn good scifi... see wolverine cad captain america.

is it possible. good question?

I have an idea M.

How about engineering our DNA with bioluminessence so we can communicate our intent in cymatic patterns.JK
:) Thats what certain magic symbols are though..cymatic representations of tone codes.
Vibration.
You know M,tactical sound .
So sound,magnetics are big contenders as far as engineering with some kind of bio technology enhancement to enable "abilities"above what we are already capable of at this point.

Plus,it is kindof apparent that our DNA directs cellular metabolism and replication not just biochemically but electromagnetically, through a chromosomal mechanism that translates sound into light waves... and vice versa.

Seidr, great post and interesting comments posted thereafter.
Planck had some great ideas and was great a maths but something is wrong with his formula, it is so obvious I am surprised nobody has picked up on it.

I have watched several lectures on string theory, unified theory so I do know what you speak of.

But this business about matter being able to jump out of a Box givrn the correct circumstances is all wrong, obviously the equation is missing a "5th element", dark energy or glue seems to fit that missing part of the equation. I agree with the notion our perceived reality is but dust and tiny threads, the trick for mankind is not to solve this web but to be able to enhance these vibrations.

As for sensing events, I will speak candidly, I do not know the mechanism . So let us examine other savants, a classic example is the math genius who can work out dates and days using complex algorythms, when asked he says..."I dont know how I do it i just know the right answer" Its the same with the guys who can photograph an image and then draw it. This is as close as I can get to telling you the truth. Is this supernatural? Maybe, but they way it works is thus...

One looks at the world, the news, the weather, and the more data the better. Then ask the question of the ID or unconcious mind and it is mostly blank"No" sometimes it is maybe, rarely it is a resounding " Yes" I do think this has something to do with DNA because I have trouble with electricity and EMF when stressed, storms hurt my head.

It's true that science catches up with some concepts that were known to the masters of old. The thing is that when a phenomena becomes explainable by science there will always be some part of it that doesn't fit into the model. The question is - will science be able to catch up with a Universe that is constantly changing ?

I believe there were few cases of people who seemed to attract lightnings. They would be hit by them multiple times without or with minor injury. Some report even being chased by lightnings into their homes and cars.

Genetics - the offspring of infamous Eugenics is also a flawed child. I call it the brute force method. I heard of an experiment in which DNA was imprinted upon a subject by radiating it with some sort of laser. The laser would first hit the DNA we want to imprint (it can be anything based on DNA, a plant, animal or human) then it's reflection would be cast on our subject. After a short exposure the subject would mutate into a hybrid. If this is real it could mean that the issues that arise in transplantology are avoidable. I will try to find this experiment and post it.

Angelus, I will prepare a short summary of my findings regarding the supersoldier program along with mind control studies (it was one of my obsessions).

Oceanne, bio-luminescence or other types of radiation might work as well. I believe that DNA is photo/radiosensitive. Our neurons also emit photons. Sound is also a good way however it operates on a different part of the spectrum.
It is likely that DNA might convert light into sound and vice versa, do you remember the name of this chromosomal mechanism? Besides the chromosomes always reminded me of tuning forks.
Our skeleton is also a big resonator. Some people with tooth fills were able to pick up radio signals in their heads.

TheeGreenKnight, I agree that we should enhance and build upon what we were given, to do that however we should first understand the nature of our reality. At least that's how I see it. The subject of dark matter/energy is something I also wanted to squeeze into the equation, I'm glad you brought it up.
Savants and other gifted people are indeed known to do extraordinary things when it comes to things like math or photographic memory. There are people in India who can solve complex equations, multiply and divide very big or very small numbers. The mechanism might involve turning off the filtering mechanism in the brain, the one that separates consciousness from subconsciousness. It has been measured that the subconscious sensory data stream is wider than the one that goes to our consciousness Maybe the subconscious mind allows almost instant computation or maybe it simply knows the answer.

I would concur with that analysis, switching off the mundane concious to access a lower instinctive plane.

Nothing new about this concept, Druids were doing it ten thousand years ago. The mathmetician and writer JR Tolkien suspected as much and introduced the wizard Radaghast the Brown, the fool who lived in the woods but was at one with nature. If you watch the film the Hobbit Peter Jackson captured this moment .

Tolkien through Gandalf then went onto explain Rhadagast was no fool. Modern science has identified these mushrooms etc that were used to switch off the mundane side of reality.
It is said Druids and wizards would eat the spotted red mushrooms containing LSD etc to achieve this trance like state and many cultures have similar practices.

The wizard would brew the mushrooms etc in a cauldron, drink it and then urinate into his followers cups, they too would then share the brew in order to see beyond their normal senses.Caveat- Pretty sure nobody would drink piss if it did not work, gullible or not.

First of all - wonderful conversation everyone !

TGK, the mushrooms you're referring to are called Amanita Muscaria (Fly Agaric). They were used by all sorts magicians (shamans, witches, wizards etc.). The active ingredient of these mushrooms isn't LSD because it's a semi-synthetic substance made traditionally from the Claviceps Purpurea fungus (ergot).
Fly Agarics contain ibotenic acid which is poisonous without preparation. This is why just like you said a brew was prepared usually from dried caps (drying just like heat decarboxylates the ibotenic acid to psychoactive muscimol).
You are right about rituals where the participants drank the urine of the shaman. There were 2 reasons for this: the other person didn't experience nausea from digesting the mushroom and 2- muscimol is not being metabolized by the human body therefore it's being excreted in the same active form.
Amanitas were thought to be the ingredient of Soma, a sacred drink of incredible power. The use of Fly Agaric mushrooms was quite popular in Europe and Asia (Siberian tribes) back in the days.

You have obvoiusly studied this is greater depth than me and I bow to your greater knowledge, who are you again?
Just to add to this thread and maybe even give you some new data. The mundane can also be switched of by some alcohol. Gin with lime lemon and quinine also has a focussing effect for those with a practiced mind, others get angry or throw up when their conciousness descends down the wormhole. Many experince a clsing off of reality as their field of vision becomes a narrow one eye reducing until they become a spectator.

Weed also has profound effects on time and this is well documented and also covered by Tolkien but in no depth.
I conducted some experiments, lawful experiments and had friends estimate the passage of time, in general time passes three times slower. Some individuals are able to accelerate the brain so that time passes at 1/10th, this includes the ability to see spectrums of light, wave patterns etc the brain is normally unable to process. The best example is being able to perceive the individual blades on a rotating celing fan that are normally just a blur. Once accelerated the brains imaging system is able to travel without the body in a trance like state. Again this has been suspected for years and has few practical applications other than spying on people, but it is difficult to control as is dreamwalking.
Practice makes perfect, but there is a danger of blowing the neurons in the brain and those that over induldge often end up psychotic or retards when the brain tries to re-adjust to normal timelines.

Apologies for the typos and mistakes in my original post, I am posting this because I forgot to add more to the post, I had posted it too soon it seems.

Here is a list of specific abilities that I was going to add in the original post. If there is any ability you know of that is not on the list and you would want to know how it works then post it but the ability has to have something to work off, nothing that would be completely impossible i.e flying with no wings.

Telekinesis.
I already gave a brief description of it.

Electrokinesis.
The ability to manipulate or create electricity, in a way people do have this, especially if you consider static to be a small form of EK. I know many people who have indeed been shocked by someone just by shaking hands or hugging.

Pyrokinesis.
The ability to produce or manipulate fire.
Like Electrokinesis, this ability can work off the human body due to the changing temperatures but even if a human could control the their heat until combustion, the resulting effects would harm the subject.


Cryokinesis.
Same as above though in the opposite direction, if one could change their temperature to the point of freezing, then they would harm themselves.


Precognition.
The ability to detect future events.
This ability is not so far fetched, indeed one would only need to be an excellent at observing and have high intuition to predict and anticipate things.

Psychometry.
The ability to become familiar with and know and object's history.
This is not so impossible either as people do leave imprints on objects, their fingerprints, their scent and if they have static problems, they can make the object static which can shock people.




Flying without wings is no less fantastic then some of these others as we have no science to prove of disprove the possibility. Let me explain.

Most of the ones you listed here can be done with a form of molecular manipulation. And the electrical field your body generates would be the most logical way for anyone this to work.

Telekinetic energy can be attributed to the ability to manipulate the molecular loosely grouped around the object you wish to move. One would have to group the molicules tightly together and possibly excel orate their movement identifying water vapor and isolating it to creat a jet of steam perhaps. Or maybe tightly packing the molecules together to form a string or wire and use that to move it. Possibly one could use wind or a pocket of hot air with a bubble around the object. Or even a magnetic field around the object.

Telekinesis, Electrokinesis, Pyrokinesis, and Cryokinesis all can be done with molecular manipulation using a powerful electrical field. I have covered telekinetic, and electokenetic energy manipulation pyrokinetic would just be a matter of speed, friction, and pressure. Speed creates friction, and friction creates heat. Add large amounts of pressure and there is no doubt you will have combustion. That is why electricity causes fire, it is moving so fast it sets molecules in the air on fire.

Now on the opposite side of that coin we have cold. Cold is cause by a lack of motion, lack of friction and lack of pressure, although pressure is only a supporting factor, so it is possible to have cold contence under pressure. You will just never reach absolute zero inder presure. That is why outer space is so cold. This requires a lack of electrical activity, more accurately a lack of any activity, and external stimuli. Using an electrical field you could remove all the heat from the air inside the field and expell it outword, effectivly cooling the object inside the field. I am sure this goes without saying but slowing your body down to a frozen state would effectively kill you.

The electrical field your body produces however is not sufficient to creat a powerful enough field to effect anything on such an imediate and large scale. If your body prduced that much electricity you would be ashes in a mater of milliseconds. Perhaps that explains spontaneous combustion. Maybe someone tried and burst into flames. Just kidding.

The last two have to do with causality. Those ones are far more likely to manifest in someone then the others. And I would like to add two abilities to this grouping. Telepathy and the ability is to cause change is the scientific definition of 'energy'. Energy is adherent to the law of conservation of energy, which states that energy is neither created nor destroyed in any action. To illustrate this, just think of a sandwich. When you eat the sandwich, the chemical energy is absorbed and transferred to mechanical energy, the energy your body needs to move.

Now everyone can manipulate energy around them using the average human beings electical field on a small scale. Everyone does it words are an example, as well as walking, which effectively slices through the molecules in the air. Dance inhances moods and creates emotions in those around them this causes a chain reaction in behavior that as time goes by causes an infanent ripple effect. Everything we do say think even creates a change in us and so in everyone we meet from then on and everyone they meet, and so on.

Telepathy can be attributed to being able to read people extremely well body language, speech patterns, personal history and so forth. The more information you can gather the more accurate your reading would be.

I have a roommate that some might call a psychic. I once thought she was myself, but after she explained how it worked I found that given a specific set of talents anyone could do it. A talent in mathematics, pattern seeking, and psychological understanding of the individual as well as the masses is key to finding the probability ratio. Once you have that you can fairly accurately predict the future. This same concept can be found in predicting whether. The better your understanding of causality the more accurate your predictions will be and can even allow you not just to predict outcomes but to cause them.

I did not say or imply flight without wings was less fantastic than the others, I said it was more of a stretch than others. I suppose one could levitate with TK but that is different to proper flight, in order to be able to fly fast and swiftly, one would need to be built to resist pressure and have wind resistance etc.

Eugenics is not a good thing but it brings me to one of the ways to get past the transplant issue of genetic engineering.

If a person was injected with the unique elements and then somehow given something to slow or halt rejection or even make them bond with his or her cells etc then that person can possibly mate with another who has gone through the same thing to produce a child which could possibly have abnormalities. Since the foreign dna would be passed naturally, there may be a natural tolerance to it. Just my two cents anyhow, I ain't an expert.

@Agora, high level intuition is what gives someone near precognition and telepathy like skills, reading someone is pretty much simple for them, like a book to be specific.

As for telekinesis, someone hit the nail on the head with the hammer!. By manipulating the molecules to become tight it may become somewhat tangible enough to move an object, however, we just need to know how to do that, control is secondary at the moment as its the trigger we need. As I said, tech help may be needed to make it manifest.

If the electricity is the key, then someone like the electric man is needed as patient zero. With his or her resistance to electricity and his ability to be "charged" up with it, he or she could use that excess power to manipulate things.

In my experiences with different psychic abilities I can say yes, I believe that all abilities are truly possible..BUT our bodies are incapable of producing certain results such as human flight. Our bodies just aren't capable of producing that mass amount of energy to achieve the flight of the physical body. There are other methods to flight however, such as astral projection, but that isn't physical.

A lot of people have misconceptions about how certain abilities work. Such as telepathy. In my experience telepathy isn't where you literally hear the thoughts of others. You pick up impressions of certain things, certain likes or perhaps colors of certain things like of what a person was wearing or even doing at a time. But this isn't extensive, no one can truly know this, it's just the impressions we can pick up on. I can say I've not always been right, but there have been many times I have been. Asking someone though to do such things is irrelevant. Telepathy has to have a open channel through the mind to work. You can't just go into someones mind if they disbelief in it, it doesn't work that way because their mind is then closed off to you. Telepathy is a means of mind to mind communication. Disbelief in that area is just as powerful as belief.

I have done little things with telekinesis using a device which is to practice with it. This sort of ability is a lot like practicing ritual. Yes, you use the brain but like I said about flight, that energy isn't usually extensive to make really large objects move or even little objects. Everyone has energy output, it's just learning how to direct it. I haven't personally moved anything outside of the device I've used to practice my telekinesis. Again, people love to over exaggerate about things.


All these things truly are like practicing magick in a way. You have to be able to learn how to sense and direct energy in order to access them properly. Some people are more natural at it than others too, some may be born with the ability to do certain things but even they have limits. Like I said, I believe in all abilities, I just don't believe we are capable of producing mass amounts of energy in which can affect the physical world on a direct and immense level such as flying or other things. However..spiritual things I believe are very possible as they are usually indirect and often happen shortly after work is completed.

Everyone produces energy in some way so everyone has the capability to become a practitioner of magick or a telepath or whatever, but it's not as fantastical like flashing lights or reading every thought a person has. It's more..complex yet simple at the same time. There isn't much detail as to how all this happens, but I can only merely explain my experiences as they are. Think of this as a muscle, which it is..it's merely only understanding how to move that muscle. Except it's not exactly a physical muscle even though to some degree it is.

Hopefully this has been interesting for some of you.

TGK, thank you. Let's just say that I'm someone who is trying to figure out what's up with the world.
I've noticed that alcohol has mentally stimulating effect in low doses, high doses are mentally disruptive but I guess most of you know that already ;) Tinctures are another thing though.
When it comes to creating this sensory cut off you mention there are other things that do it much more selectively and don't impair your thinking in such a dramatic way.

About these time-dilating experiments with weed you mention. It has been observed numerous times that people under the influence notice the alteration of time. I didn't have the exact numbers but in most cases the time seems to go slower mind works faster, just like you said. This has a downside too - some organs are not able to catch up with the racing mind which might give you 4ex. access to distant, long forgotten memories, better visions but it might be difficult to remember what happened 1 minute ago or to express what you're feeling (sometimes). And yes I agree it might help with astral projection by creating a kind of chemical sensory deprivation chamber.

Agora, welcome to our gathering ;) Very interesting theory about the jet stream, brings me back to the microwave example. Our bodies do emit all kinds of radiation therefore it can be used to affect the molecules. It would be nice to have some numbers about the distances of the fields around our bodies - magnetic, electric, auric, microwave, beyond light and so on. I'll be on a lookout for these.
You can use pressure both ways - more pressure will squeeze the object and low pressure will tear it apart. High pressures are good for merging molecules, vacuum helps with separation... with exceptions as always.

"Using an electrical field you could remove all the heat from the air inside the field and expell it outword, effectivly cooling the object inside the field."
This is what's called a Peltier effect and it's sometimes used in CPU overclocking:
"A thermoelectric device creates voltage when there is a different temperature on each side. Conversely, when a voltage is applied to it, it creates a temperature difference. At the atomic scale, an applied temperature gradient causes charge carriers in the material to diffuse from the hot side to the cold side." - Wikipedia, Thermoelectric effect article
Telepathy can be augmented by the techniques you mentioned but this is not the sensu stricto telepathy.
I think it has a lot to do with being able to tune into someones vibes. You can do it by gathering information and prediction but if you are empathic you simply recalibrate your aura to someone's specific vibration set. This allows you the access the mind of another person.

Mordrakus, there was an experiment in which a fungus was given synthetic nutrients that mimicked the precursor substance it uses to produce certain chemical (psylocin if I remember correctly). It was observed that the fungus accepted the synthetic precursor and produced a modified version of the substance. The trick is that the further you go from the original blueprint the less likely it is to work or it will require additional instructions in order to be accepted. The best way would be to 'tell' the DNA to rearrange itself rather than introducing foreign elements.

Nightwind, very interesting indeed, thank you ;) When it comes to flight maybe there is a way to reduce the amount of energy required by using the right kind of energy. My theory is that if there is a gravity field it has it's specific oscillation span. It anchors to the atoms and molecules in the body thus keeping it grounded. If we knew the frequency of the gravity field we could retune ourselves to create a reverse field that will deflect gravity.
I also used a simple tool to test my TK but well, my success ratio was very low ;)
As for telepathy I couldn't agree more. However I think it is possible to get a 100% lock-on when you're really good (and your link target is also a telepath/empath).

@RavenousNightwind.
Indeed which is why humans may need tech help to increase the energy output or have a similar ability to electric man to be able to absorb lethal amounts of power unharmed.

@Seidr.
You're talking about some sort of virus right? something that can be introduced to the biological system to "command" cells to better take in foreign elements.
Could work.

Replication is an interesting ability itself, to mimic something complicated is something great, it could be used to help the human body accept the foreign element by having the human dna change and replicate the foreign elements to better accommodate it.
The specimens injected with these foreign elements will unlikely get any benefit out of it but their decedents could since the dna would be passed naturally and thus adaption will kick in.

I do think science has a capability of merging with the workings of magick in some way. However..I think we are years away from that sort of practice.

Messing around with natural energies such as the gravitational pull, especially with using machines to help one do so..could affect the way in which things are and thus..probably shouldn't be done to begin with. It is possible however to sort of..call forth certain elemental energies in which to bring certain weather, but this isn't an instant thing at all. Not like you do a ritual and bam it starts snowing in summer. Things like weather magick are very erratic and can't truly be controlled. You can merely only harness or call forth such energies, drawing them to you in some way. I've heard fantastical stories though of people making it snow in summer by using snowballs that you get from winter. However..stuff like that is rare I suppose. A lot of people doubt it, and I do to a certain extent, but I also know certain things are possible. Such as cloud bursting where you take clouds and push them aside. Which can sometimes be instant where other times not. It requires pushing your aura all the way up to the clouds, which takes an extreme amount of focus to do so.

I've personally had the wind raise when I was doing spell work or perhaps when I'd ground my self to the elements, I'd feel such a connection to them that the wind would blow as I raised my hands. This stuff though isn't controlling the weather or having the ability to surround your self with wind so you can fly! It's just merely being one with those elements, feeling them as they are and in that moment you mentally become part of them, thus you access a certain..connection which then is in response to you, making the wind blow. Of course this isn't all fact really, it's just my assumption on how it could possibly work!

I think things aren't as people think them to be and like I said in my previous post, people love to over exaggerate how they can "control" the elements and lie about it. There is no control with those sorta things, only because we are all part of that, it's just opening the mental channel in which allows us to feel the energy and work with it more easily. This goes hand and hand with gravity maybe, maybe one would feel lighter, but never being able to truly fly. If would could alter all that, we'd be like gods..or perhaps even throw things off. So abilities like that are..limited.

We need to know how these abilities work from a scientific or logical viewpoint, "magick" is not a scientific or logic explanation but something else entirely, something not fully understood. we might come to that later though to see how "magick" itself would work.

I guess what some of the stuff humans do these days would have been called magick back in the old days.

The abilities we are talking about so far are stuff that is in the realm of possibility and has something to work off i.e a person's electrical field etc

Human flight is quite a stretch and so is weather control, so we won't be talking about that......yet. XD

It is true some of these abilities would need tech help to manifest but it is understandable when you realize how weak humans are and that they have lost most of their animal instincts and what made them predators centuries ago. Maybe genetic engineer can make humans strong again may introducing the best traits of varies non-human animals.

Electric man does not need tech help, what causes him to absorb that power is in his biological system and in his genetic pool as some of his family have resistance too. We need someone like him to volunteer for research
so one can learn to replicate his ability.

For telepathy,empathy and precognotions,I believe one of the key mechanisms is entrainment...like clocks entrain when they fall into sync for a few beats or so.Like when you are sitting in your car,the wipers going,radio going..blinkers on and everything syncs.That is in part why it is as fleeting and spontaneous as it is.

Skip and roll.

Ghosts and such,I think for the most part our encounters have to to with infrasound as one of the mechanisms.Magnetics,EMF and other enviromental /geo processes causing others.

Even the electro peeps get shocky in cycles.

Empathy is an easy one,because we begin to develop that when we bond with our mothers.

Mordrakus, a virus sounds reasonable under one condition - the method of code injection must be as close to the natural way as possible. I wasn't sure the final version of this but I was leaning towards nanotech but biotech also sounds good.
I was also considering a method of modifying the way the ribosome works. We leave the DNA alone and we affect the way the amino acid chains are created meaning we change the interpretation of mRNA sequences brought to the ribosome so the outcome will yield a different amino acid chain.

Nightwind, yes the machine could pose a risk to environmental stability if it was used on a large scale. Weather modification devices already exist (HAARP, silver iodide in cloud seeding, Reich's experimental Orgone cloudbuster etc.).
Btw. I think you don't need to send your aura, all you need to do is establish a bridge by focusing your gaze and seeding a portal for the energy.

Oceanne, you said: "Ghosts and such,I think for the most part our encounters have to to with infrasound as one of the mechanisms." What do you think is the role of infrasound in it?

It is known as tactical sound or frequencies ,Seidr.They are frequencies within certain ranges that affect the human in different ways.All of which essentially affect the Pineal gland and optical nerves, as well as other things, like our hair and skin.Many old basements and old buildings..caves and other places can have standing infrasound waves trapped .If we venture into these places,we can experience chills,visions , our hair standing on end,cold "puffs" or breaths of air and it can cause us to feel fear as well as even "spiritual".

I beleive that ceratin religions use tactical sound via Pipe organs,Digeridoos ,chants(OMM)and drums to elicit said effects on parisioners etc..
Infrasound's ability to affect the physical is impressive,to say the least.
Talk of telekinesis..if one could make ,focus and expel certain frequencies at something,who knows,it can levitate things,kill..germinate seeds..The list is extensive.Anyway,if one could do that,naturally or with some kind of device .Telekineses could perhaps work to an extent.

Some say the Pineal gland is the seat of the soul and its not fully understood yet but it could be a possible source since one of you did say it was connected to the functioning of dreams so there may be a connection between mental type abilities and the gland.

Nanotech sounds good too but I think they would need to closely match the body that they will be introduced into otherwise there be problems, though the body is known to tolerate non-biological materials since some people live with bullets in them for years with no ill effects.

Oceanne, I found this article about tactical frequencies, is this what you were referring to ?
http://www.qsl.net/n4jri/mil_tact.htm

One theory suggests Egyptian pyramids were built with help of an acoustic levitation device. Tibetans also used special musical instruments to break heavy rocks.

Mordrakus, there are numerous books about the pineal gland and it's function: "DMT the Spirit Molecule" by Dr Rick Strassman or "Awakening the Third Eye" by Samuel Sagan and many many others.
We know that the pineal produces melatonin, a signalling neurotransmitter that puts the body into sleep mode. It's also possible that pineal gland produces DMT which makes it possible for us to dream. The interesting fact about those substances (melatonin and DMT) is that they belong to the same group of substances along with neurotransmitters, essential amino acids and hallucinogens based indole - a very common biological structure in plants, animals and humans.

More like this Seidr.:)

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=776

It is an old article,but it explains it.And yes,it could be responsible for other things,like the Egyptians using it to build,The monks,their rocks and even perhaps moving the giant coral stones for the Coral castle.

Actually,this link is better suited..

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/accoustic.htm

This is good Oceanne ! I read about these experiments both in U.S. and Russia. They didn't mention however another military application - an earthquake generator.

Thanks..Yeah,the E generator,thats another application.There are a lot more too.Because of the effects of it on our bodies and everything,I feel its a good contender.

The super soldier program is something have been trying to do for years, even through the creation of power armor.

It brings me to super human strength and durability, the human body is weak but it can have short bursts of incredible strength. In certain situations, a human can have a burst of "hysterical strength" and lift an incredible amount of weight.
From what I read though, it needs to be short and temporary or else it will destroy the body, so if someone were to be able to get super strength they would need to get it from a different source.

Like the Astartes.They have all sorts of bio mechanic enhancements and genetic engineering going on.

Here is something about the super soldier program and it's origins.

Many horror movie scenarios that seem so extraordinary/paranormal are often based on events that happened in reality (to a degree). If you look through the veil of metaphors and special effects you will see the truth behind it.

The movement to create a super human or to transcend human condition has ancient origins. In modern times it could be traced back to World War 2 era - especially Nazi experiments in concentration camps and secret facilities. They included: genetic studies, trauma based mind control, 'creative' surgeries, antigravity (Die Glocke (The Bell), later Hanebu flying discs) and occult studies (Thule society).
When the war ended some of the Nazi scientists were taken to the U.S., it was called the Operation Paperclip (it was mentioned in AHS:Asylum series). At the time Nazis had technology that at times was superior to the Alliance's, except for one – graphite moderators for atomic bombs. Wernher von Braun became the founding father for the rocketry industry, without him there would be no Apollo program. It is said that Josef Mengele also came to the U.S. and continued his experiments.

Creating a soldier with super human strength, who follows orders without question no matter what they are, who doesn't eat or sleep is the Holy Grail for military and intelligence. That's why U.S. government conducted various experiments using trauma, drugs and electroshock therapy to achieve that. Don't think it was the only place where things like that happened, most probably every superpower ran their own similar programs.

Office of Strategic Services (OSS) was supervising research on mind control at the time. One of the goals was to obtain a 'truth drug' but it turned out to be quite difficult. CIA memo from 1952 leaves no room for interpretation regarding the aim of the experiments which is "...controlling and individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will." All the research within the agency was lead by Dr Sidney Gottlieb. One of the projects named MK Ultra that ran during the 50's tested newly discovered hallucinogens on unwitting subjects from the fringes of society while also studying human sexual behavior as means for mind control (btw. MK Ultra in a way started the hippies revolution in the 60's because CIA introduced LSD to the black market). At the same time the Army Chemical Corp also experimented with hallucinogens which resulted in death of Harold Blower in 1953. This event didn't discourage them from further research.

One of the most horrible experiments took place in a gothic estate Ravenscrag in Montreal under supervision of a psychiatrist Dr Donald Ewen Cameron. He divided his research into 3 areas : sleep therapy, psychic driving and depatterning. Psychic driving utilized injection of drugs, electroshock treatment to create amnesia and playing tapes with instructions over and over again. Depatterning was a combination of psychic driving, heavy electroshock treatment and prolonged periods of sleep.

Later endeavors like Project Talent utilized this research to create operatives with split personalities, each totally controlled by their handlers. Selection of candidates for operatives relied strongly on genetics:

"They wanted people who were half Native American and half Celtic.  Whether it be Scottish, Irish, didn’t matter as long as it was Celtic.  The reason for that is the Native Americans and the Celtic are two of the races on the Earth that are more superimposed to paranormal ability or psi-ability."
- Duncan O'Finioan, "Ultimate Warrior", Project Camelot interview

Candidates participated in occult rituals, interweaved with sessions of depatterning, torture and programming of each of the alters (alter is the name for an individual personality created during depatterning/torture sessions). The alters didn't know of each others existence and were controlled by keywords or specific trigger sounds that switched between them.
Depending on the task specific and predispositions of the candidate the alters were programmed with martial arts, weapon handling, remote viewing, persuasion and seduction, sex slave training, espionage and assassination techniques etc. Dark stuff.

Some elements of these programs were depicted in many series and movies such as: Manchurian Candidate, Dollhouse, Dark Angel, Cypher, Telephone, Conspiracy Theory, Firefly, Total Recall and others.

I hope that helps !

{Making things Happen by Thoughts}


Goodevening to all,

The subconscious mind is our connecting link in the Universal Mind.

All minds are linked to spiritual consciousness that is vibrating all existing knowledge available through spherical waves in continuous space.

How does one tap this potential of knowledge? Subconscious power is also a system. It is a system that allows us as heightened individuals to interact with the unlimited potential that exists within the fabric of spirit. The subconscious mind is that aspect of our consciousness that allows us to access the answers to the external physical world. This occurs as a result of the spiritual fabric creating the subconscious link through Its interconnectedness with the physical universe.

The procedure of connecting with the spiritual fabric of knowledge is quite simple; however, it is important to understand certain facts concerning the subconscious mind. First of all, it must be guided. Herein lays the paradox; the system containing all universal knowledge must be assisted by the finite mind of a human. So it is; however, we must follow universal rule.

The subconscious mind must be instructed, just as you would search for information on the internet, with words. The only difference is that we need to accompany the words with detailed, picture images of the solutions we want to achieve.
When the eyes are closed and centered to the inside of the forehead, the visual imagery is sent to the brain, then the great subconscious vault of potentiality for review. The imagery is analyzed, then resolved as answers and relayed back to the conscious level of brain activity. During the course of daily activity, the answers to the visualization flow into the decision making process of the individual as momentous action. The swiftness of arrival of the answers is subjective and is in direct proportion to the individual’s receptivity of subconscious principles, as a result of one’s belief system due to brain conditioning.
I hope i did not get too technical...but it's true.
That's what i think.

Nice thought of the process Sangrea,but not technical enough.Please explain the mechanism behind this line of thought? How it might actually allow thought into physical might work?

Thanks.:)

TGK, the funniest thing is that what I wrote about the super soldier program origins isn't a theory - it's history.

The difficulty in researching this subject is that the closer we get to the present the more barriers we encounter, false trails, dead ends and so on. The reason is obvious - we can't touch the information that could interfere with some ongoing projects, the old stuff is declassified.

I don't give info that can't be verified. That's the reason I gave all the names and dates. The part about the early days of mind control research I got from this ABC documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCIe_H8eT8k

The rest comes from various sources on the net, you can verify each story by doing a few searches.

Oh and sorry for one typo - Hanebu should be Haunebu.

"One of the most horrible experiments took place in a gothic estate Ravenscrag in Montreal under supervision of a psychiatrist Dr Donald Ewen Cameron. He divided his research into 3 areas : sleep therapy, psychic driving and depatterning. Psychic driving utilized injection of drugs, electroshock treatment to create amnesia and playing tapes with instructions over and over again. Depatterning was a combination of psychic driving, heavy electroshock treatment and prolonged periods of sleep."

Ah yes, sleeper agents. Not exactly a true ability but its effective and useful, especially if the subject knew how to trigger it him/herself. One moment he/she could be an average citizen who can barely cook and in the next, know years worth of martial arts, Weapons training and a will to kill with no remorse. Perfect killing machine. What is shown on tv is usually exaggerated but power of suggestion can exist and so can brainwashing.

Split personalities is quite interesting, one part can be purely innocent who would never harm a fly and the other may be a raging sociopathic monster.


As for super-human strength, if one cannot manifest it naturally or from a source other than hysterical strength then a powered-exoskeleton is the way to go.

Some people can get severe hypertrophy muscles which means they are far larger than normal, unfortunately while extra strength may be granted, the appearance of a person with it can be quite startling and misshapen.

Greeting and thank you Ocaenne.

Let me elaborate then, Before we get into the actual mechanics behind thought-creation, Good consciousness is the constructive use of your thoughts. As your reality creation skills improve, so will your ability to affect the lives of those around you. When your ability to affect the lives of others increases, good consciousness becomes important, if not mandatory!

Your thoughts not only influence your own life but have an influence over the lives of others. This influencing is noticeable, to some degree, in your life now. For example, how many times have you said, “I knew that was going to happen to them!” or “I had a feeling that might occur to him.” Well, however shocking this idea will seem, in many of those precognitive instances, you helped create that event, at that very moment. How can this influencing of other people’s fate be? You can’t make things happen to others by mere thoughts? Right? Wrong!

Physical reality is one big cooperative venture. You inhabit a small corner of the universe with billions of other people in an attempt to understand yourself and your abilities. One of the ways you learn about yourself is by the impact your thoughts have on your reality; that’s called direct learning. Your thoughts impact against physical reality and physical reality mirrors back at you that reality that is coming from you. In other words, if you are filled with love and joy, most likely the world you perceive about you will reflect this love and joy. People will probably be pleasant and happy. Your physical surroundings will, also, reflect this attitude back toward you. When you look around, you are likely to see pleasing objects and people and things.

Now, this mirroring does not mean that your physical reality is devoid of all other aspects, other than what presently emanates from you. What this mirroring implies is that, generally, you will see what is within you manifest physically.

Now, allow be to also tell you about how we can, Are our own Masters...we CAN do what we so wish with pure thought and even change our DNA through our own manipulation of will and thought, DNA Manipulation...thought its self have a vibration a matter of fact all live has a vibrational frequency and in this frequency we can manipulate thought which also has its own frequency.

DNA activation is a life altering etheric operation.
Most people are born with only 2-3 strands of their 36 total DNA strands activated. Light workers and healers may have up to 4-5 strands activated. So, most people are working at only 10% of their true potential. Several techniques now exist that may light up, or activate, the DNA up to the 12th strand, However, what about the other 24 DNA strands?

With the 24 Strand DNA Activation, your highest potential becomes your reality. The Activation is a huge acceleration step on your personal path, and open you to profound spiritual advancement. The following benefits are available with the 24 Strand Activation:

Brings your life's purpose into alignment Increases your brain utilization dramatically.
Strengthens your DNA while clearing debris from DNA matrix Opens you to new talents and abilities, like most of us have as vampires already we just haven't accessed it or most don't know how to even activate them...so, let me continue...increases energy; increasing clarity and focus Reduces mind chatter and drama.
Creates a greater opening for connection with your Higher Self.
Brings in and anchors more Light and Divine energy in your physical body.
Expands and strengthens your Aura.
The process of activating the DNA to the 24th Strand is very holy and sacred. Its lineage in its current format can be traced all the way back to King Solomon the Great, over 2500 years ago. This technique was originally performed in the Great Pyramid of Giza to prepare priests, priestesses, oracles, prophets and high healers for positions of power and responsibility within their community.

The activation is not a healing per sey, but an empowerment that will greatly assist you in your healing processes. Activation of the DNA to the 24th strand enables you to accommodate to the increased Light coming onto the planet and, in fact, benefit from it. This activation will enable you to remain centered and healthy during this time of great planetary change. The 24 strand DNA Activation raises your vibrational frequency, helps you adjust to the influx of new planetary energy, and enables you to more easily heal unresolved life issues.

Now, how do we change things, or even change our bodies? How do we become healthier when we always "try" to diet and eat more healthy things? There are many questions that we ask ourselves from day to do about what we can do to make our lives better or to extend our lives, but have you ever sat and thought about it? I mean really think about these questions that you are asking yourself or others and coming up with solid blank answers to. What if I told you everything that you want with changing your life and body depends upon you and the limitations that you place upon yourself. Just look at all of the stories of the past about shape shifters {people turning into wolves, birds, ect. ect} all of this comes from the thought and the belief of the person. I know that I have touched on this in the past, but I feel that with the coming age that it is extremely important to know how far that one can actually push themselves when facing a challenge. Ancient spells come from pictures not words, because the mind can develop what it can see rather than what it can read... Hmm maybe this is where the phrase "seeing is believing" comes from.

The fact of the matter is that within the depths of the subconscious mind is where our greatest power comes from and also our greatest obstacle lies. Once that is over come then you can advance forward into places where at first you never thought was possible. One main thing to remember though is your thoughts control your actions, no matter what they are or where the thoughts come from they are always in control over your own actions. With realizing this we can then move forward taking the time to think before we act upon something.

There are people out there that are like vampires that feed off energies that they cause you to produce and feel happy after they have caused you anger. This is an object of controlling another person. If we realize this and do not allow them to make us angry then it will cause the negative energy to fall back on them.

Granted there are 2 ways to advance yourself one way is to be like these people that feed off of your energy, doubt, anger and disbelief and even joy, or to be on the positive side of things helping change people for the better, using your abilities to make things better not only in your life, but in the lives of others as well. The choice is always up to you.

Heal or destroy how would you rather see this world? Ever heard the Phrase change your mind; change your life, or even believe and it will happen. Well they are both true. If a doctor tells you that you have an incurable disease and you accept it then you have condemned yourself, on the other hand if a doctor tells you that and you do not accept it, then you can change your life and your DNA just through thought can help to correct your DNA and get rid of any disease that may be plaguing you..
Remember kin we posses the ability to heal our-selves!!! We always have and we always will, it is what/who we are as vampire.

Ancient shamans have been able to manipulate their DNA and change complete shape and form through thought. The thought was so strongly believed that it allowed them to manipulate their own DNA through imagery. First it must be practiced in the mind to the point of taking no thought to complete the task you set out to do, this helps raise your own belief. Then start to bring into the real world, remember though the real world and the dream world are tied together. What can be done in the dream world can be done in the real world. If you do not believe that then that is where you fail. Your belief and your Will are the most powerful tools in your arsenal. They can both allow you to succeed or to fail depending upon your belief. If you do not believe then that is so, but if you do believe then that is so, see what I am trying to get at here. Magic works the same way, you see the images of what you want to do, form them in your mind and then send a vibration into the universe remember to tell the universe how long you want it to take. Always put a time limit on it depending on they type of spell you are choosing. I am not talking some rhyme thing that you see in a book. ancient spells were derived of pictures, showing the sorcerer how the spell or ritual was performed, thus allowing them to recreate the image in their minds and bring it out into the real world manifested.

What if we could do this with our DNA? Well honestly we CAN, you have just been lead to believe that you have to accept the way that you are, but this is not true. It is only a belief that you have been taught growing up. I see all the time people making posts on facebook about life being short and I am thinking sure if that is the way that you want it to be, then that is how it will be.
Remember the quote from star wars? Luke: I don't believe it Yoda: that is why you fail. Think about this back in the 70's information like this was posted in movies, yet we disbelieve what they say because why? It was in a movie!! They slip information into movies and games to hide if from the people. Because the idea was that if it appeared in a movie unless it said "based on a true story" then it was fiction and could never be achieved. If you wish to succeed at anything you have to have belief or what is called unwavering faith in yourself and what you are doing, if not then you are just building walls within your mind.


I hope that was a bit more clarifying Oceanne.
I don't know how else to break it down.

I appreciate the opportunity this VR, gives me...
Now, i can pass down useful information to cognitive people and make aware of what WE CAN do, to better ourselves and the endless abilities that are at your finger tips.

Thank you for your time,

Sincerely and respectfully: {SangrealVulpes}

It is probably hereditory, AP Rhys means enthusiasm, an olde welsch term. There is most certainly a genetic advantage, 'where you give up is where I begin.'
Control over the dragon is key and again few are masters, top line warriors martial artists etc....and no, squeezing a trigger does not count, although the red-necks and NRa would have one believe so.
The question is this, to my mind anyway, once one has mastered ones own mind, will and limits, is it possible to set about mastering our environment ?
Tapping into forces as yet undiscovered.
Most have no idea how much energy is stored inside nucleic bonds, in a human, a trillion tonnes of TNT.

If a fraction could be utilsed, there are no limits.

gonna spell this wrong... I know, but Seidr... the piece on the super soldiers was well spot-on and reiterated stuff I've read over the years, kudos to you.

Have you ever read The Body Electric?

No i have no, i'm sorry...it sounds like a work-out video...

i just Googled it....i know its not a workout video...The Body Electric: Electromagnetism And The Foundation Of Life.

Sounds interesting...i'm getting my Phlebotomist license now,........Vv--vV and working towards Bio-Engineering...the body and mind and soul.. interest me greatly.

It is true that willpower can indeed overcome some physical limitations and sometimes even life-threatening conditions such as cancer. One woman was told she would be dead in a few months but because she wanted to live to see her daughter get married, she lived for nearly a year before succumbing to cancer.

Willpower is what makes you get back up and push yourself beyond the limits, it is what drives you but if one lets doubt get in the way, then that person is not going to get far in life. The will is needed to be the best one can be, having doubts blocks your potential for greatness and advancement.

Maybe one way someone could use telekinesis is to first absolutely believe in it and to also believe that they can do it. Since telekinesis is a mental based power, one would need a good clear head to try it.

I have a feeling we do it all the time and dont even know it. We could think a thought and it ends up happening,or at least imfluencing either our imediate enviroment or another area,person or thing far away.I dont believe it happens right away either.It might take a day or even longer for that thought to manifest someplace.

And dont forget {MordraKusxMortalita} Sir,

Our very being.. our bodies are magnets.....we can achieve TK.
We only have to focus and think about it.

We drawn in energy for our doners do we not so who's to say we cannot be our own "conductors.


Respectfully {SangrealVulpes}

Interesting posting but its best to reread before posting to avoid posting again to yourself because replying too much to yourself especially if its not on topic can result in admins deleting your post. Plus it wastes post space, there is a post limit in threads.

I too have heard the saying about how life is an illusion that is physically there due to our perceptions. Interesting but it does not explain how an ability would work since there is a difference between what you need to do to do to use it, and the mechanics on how it would work.

Pyrokinesis is an interesting one, it is either the ability to create fire, manipulate flames or cause sudden combustion.

How would such an abilities like this work if it was ever possible?

Evolution may be used to have abilities as well, I wonder sometimes what would happen if you put a few hundred people underground and fed them solely on meat and blood, and make the enviroment a little hostile.
Maybe their bodies will eventually evolve (after a few generations) to be able to adapt to their environment and to survive only on meat and perhaps they will get different physical traits such as sharper teeth, stronger jaws etc.

Ki energy is an energetic vibration

All the electromagnetic waves such as electric waves, radio waves, infrared rays, visible rays, ultraviolet rays, X rays, gamma rays are energetic vibrations

The brain sees things, and we feel. Patterns or diagrams affect one's brain, and the signals will be conveyed to the nerves and activate the capillaries. And then, Ki energy will be emitted.

I have heard of that before as well, someone who did akido mentioned it to me.

If it is all a matter of tuning in to a certain "frequency" then just a bit more experimenting and use of an amplifying tech, then humans will be close to doing it, I don't approve of telepathy though, your mind is the most private thing on this earth, to have that violated....well it just won't do.

Telekinesis on the other hand would be absolutely useful if one could get it to work, what others said about causing the atoms to contrict and tighten to make a tangible invisible "arm" to move an object sounds interesting but how would that be done exactly?

One of my strange theories says that telepathy is the natural language of the brain, any brain that is. Words in spoken languages are just byproducts of ideas in raw form - the essence of thinking and transmitting thoughts which is telepathy.

Our minds are able to create barriers for mind probing or use evasion techniques so we're not completely vulnerable. Someone who is sensitive enough can detect this kind of phenomena and avoid a psychic scan.

The brain is an amazing machine, just look at what can be done with it. Thoughts, dreams etc. The images in the mind can seem very real and then there is the sound in your mind, no exterior sound obviously but through memory or by simply thinking up something original you can "hear" things quite clearly.

I wonder if it would be possible to simply send someone an image or sound by connecting with their mind. Faster communication but privacy is an issue then unless what can be transmitted and received is limited and controlled.

I said I would talk about human flight later and later is now.

How would it be possible to fly?

Telekinesis perhaps?

One would not only need to lift themselves up but have enough concentration to propel and control themselves, they would aslo need to form some sort of barrier to resist the wind and they may need something fend of the cold. Frostbite could possibly happen otherwise.

But this is only if TK were possible and especially to that extent. As much as there oddities and unque people out there i.e electric man, its doubtful someone can fly unless they the ability to manipulate gravity.

i have had dreams of flying to excape things , and animals that can not normaly fly do because they get scared enough to jump long distances . like you said tho gravity does play a role but what if one did not have to control gravity but denstiy of the body . make your self light as a fether . we are made up of water and as you know when you get into water it appers or we feel like we are liter this is because of displacement of body mass . now if someone were to discover how to do this out of water i dont know about flying but we would be able at will to make ourself apper to be lighter. and then jump or flot on air maybe one way would be to make the air mass around out self to be more heavy . but the problem with that is if you make air heavy you cant breath it as easy lol .

Well have good leg muscles and you can jump quite high but not that high and flight is something that breaks a few rules so unless one is telekinetic (which is still a dispute when it comes to its existence) and able to have perfect concentration then human flight is doubtful.

Using tech to fly is possible though as jet packs exist though they are not perfected yet....as far as I know anyway, seen some water jet packs but they are limited by their cord.

Human flight would require a propulsion/acceleration, wind barriers and something to resist the temperatures and low pressure.

A strong and focused telekinetic could possibly lift themselves, propel/accelerate and use barriers to resist the wind but I doubt one could protect themselves from the temperature and pressure.

Some forms of electromagnetic or magnetic propulsion don't require physical wind barriers because they can act as a force field, vessels with such propulsion are also immune to centrifugal forces and alike. I'm talking about the engines used in UFO crafts of various sorts: the wobbly, silent, super fast ones.

As far as I know they most probably generate an electromagnetic anti-gravity field that enables their vessels to float on gravity the same way as boats float on water, though they have much better control over gravity waves.

Maybe at some point we'll be able to reconstruct this engine and make it portable to give people the ability of personal flight... hopefully avoiding supercharged liquid mercury as a component ;)

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