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Tolvraxas
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18:34:47 Aug 05 2013
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Nature has proven to operate on various systems of wavelengths and frequencies. Lasers, radio programs, TV, heart beats, brain waves etc... all operate on certain signature frequencies that are different and distinct from others! Mathematics has proven and rigorous techniques of analyzing such phenomena. So I was wondering how many of you believe that a merging of science, mathematics and the occult could ever occur through such proven methods analyzing frequencies and wavelengths normally considered paranormal! Like the low frequencies ghosts emit or in isolating the random patterns of energy when a witch is casting magick! Perhaps analyzing the wave patterns of an energy vortex, maybe even tracing it to another plane of existence! Please I would like your thoughts on this!




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Fodor was one of the leading authorities on poltergeists, haunting and all kinds of paranormal phenomena usually associated with mediumship. Fodor, who was at one time Sigmund Freud's associate, wrote on subjects like prenatal development and dream interpretation, but is credited mostly for his magnum opus, Encyclopedia of Psychic Science, first published in 1934.[2][3] Among the subjects he closely studied was the case of Gef the talking mongoose. Fodor took a psychoanalytic approach to supernatural phenomena.[4] He pioneered the theory that poltergeists are external manifestations of conflicts within the subconscious mind rather than autonomous entities with minds of their own.[5] Fodor also studied dream telepathy and came to the conclusion that some kind of communication could take place between people with close emotional ties.[6]

i have also followed up on Oceannas Infrefrequancy therry she cites.



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19:57:09 Aug 05 2013
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ohh that segment was from wiki regarding Dr Nandor Fodor.



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from a scientific stand point I think ghosts reflect wavelengths of light that not everyone's eyes can pick up or care to because they taught their brains ghost don't exist, same with auras

some people claim to have very high levels of empathy, well, emotions are created by chemicals in the brain that mess with body temperature and other things, that's probably what they are picking up on

as for telepathy, psychic abilities, and things like that I think a lot of it is predictability, humans are creatures of habit and most of our communication isn't vocal so I think they are picking up on body language and taking advantage of habit and predictability

if I went in a group of people and said I'm seeing flowers, someone would probably have a connection with that or make up a weak, kind of but not really sort of one because they want to get a reading and just go from their based on what they tell me and their reactions to what I say



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The important thing to do early is to distinguish paranormal from supernatural, because not all paranormal things are necessarily supernatural.



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By definition, the supernatural is outside the realm of science and the laws of physics (or natural law). Science, therefore, cannot get at the cause of an alleged supernatural event, which is what makes the event supernatural in the first place. Science can, of course, continue to investigate, to try and detect whatever forces or powers may be involved.

The dictionaries I have consulted also define the paranormal as outside the realm of scientific investigation, so I see little distinction between the two terms.

Both the supernatural and the paranormal are defined as being that which is beyond scientific explanation. I am sure the scientists will keep trying to find explanations, and to collect evidence that can be tested. When new evidence becomes available, our "cosmic egg," or picture of reality, will be expanded, new theories will emerge.



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I also think this question applies to just about all religion

science hasn't proven the existence of any gods, heavens, hells, they haven't found evidence that all the stories in sacred religious texts actually happened, or that praying and going to a place of worship has any measurable benefits

so by the dictionary definition just about every religion besides atheism is supernatural and paranormal even though many of it is practiced, believed, and encouraged through out societies across the planet



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Possibly Mr. Fodor came to that conclusion over time but I have his book and here is the first paragraph concerning Poltergeist activity and he follows it with different people's idea and theories none of which have been proven to be fact including any he may have conceived. It doesn't allude to anything specific in his encyclopedia.

Poltergeists: 1966 edition of Fodor’s “An Encyclopedia of Psychic Science - PO pg.191

Noisy spirits causing periodic psychic disturbances of a malicious character in certain places in the presences of a certain, mostly unsuspecting sensitive person. The appearance is as if parallel to haunted houses, there existed haunted men. Poltergeists rarely cause serious physical injury, but effect much factual damage by breaking fragile objects and occasionally setting fire to furniture or clothing. The phenomenon often cease in the presence of strangers. The presence of some others appears to increase the violence of the manifestation. The display of force may be very great. A man may be pulled out of bed, or levitated. The persecution of the victim is often very cruel and does not stop by his leaving the house. There is no control over the phenomena. In rare cases argument and kindness helps. The intelligence behind the manifestation mostly aims at mischief; but sometimes it is malefic and becomes a danger to the life and safety of the afflicted man. Whereas the ordinary psychic manifestations require darkness, poltergeists act in the daylight. Curiously, however, the movement of the objects is usually taking place when nobody is looks. They are often seen in flight but not in stirring. It has been suggested that the gaze of the human eye has a checking effect.

His beliefs one way or another are not in this book but just a general definition and some of the theories and people investigating the topic. What is interesting is as follows:

In the 1930s the psychologist and parapsychologist Nandor Fodor advanced the theory that some poltergeist disturbances were caused not by spirits but by human agents suffering from intense repressed anger, hostility, and sexual tension. Fodor successfully demonstrated his theory in several cases, including the most famous "Thormton Heath Poltergeist" in England, which he investigated in 1938. The case involved a woman whose repressions caused a poltergeist outbreak and apparently a vampire attack. The Spiritualists severely criticized Fodor, but he won a libel suit against a Spiritualist newspaper. (He doesn't say all, but some)

Read more: http://monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Poltergeist#ixzz2bF4bfx00

Then there is the theory that these actions are caused by those going through puberty...heard that too.

Perhaps it has to do with frequencies. It may deal with those that can send and receive certain frequencies that others cannot and maybe it is in some enhanced at that level for youngsters. It could be that all of these things are correct but should have different names for them or labeled types. I don't see why all of these couldn't be connected to movements of things that normally don't move on their own by differing means.

Dr. Hans Holzer who passed in 2009 wrote a whole book on poltergeists. I would be more inclined to read it and see what he had to say about it more than any other person. Especially those from the earlier part of the 20th century other than for the history of the topic.



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20:21:14 Aug 09 2013
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DR Fodor also investigated the once popular Tina Resch case.



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and FYI K atheism is not a religion.



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You might find The Nature Of Majick threads helpful....simply do a thread search, and you will find them.There are also several other threads pretaining to this..The Brown Note, Tactical Sounded
and others. I very much feel that resonance nd harmonics play very important roles in the way our universe works.



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22:27:39 Aug 15 2013
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I see atheism as the religion that there is no religion, god, or afterlife



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23:56:22 Aug 15 2013
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Then you would be wrong.



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