This is a topic that dates way back for centuries. Im sure you have all heard of the alchemic elixir of life or the fountain of youth that some great men have sought their whole lives to find. What im interesting in hearing about is how you all feel on this topic? do you think life can really be prolonged in such a manner? do you think that the fountain of youth really exist? what do you think about the elixir if life? true or false? please share your facts and feelings on this ancient topic.
if any fountain were to exist, my bet is that it would be aroundthe mayan pyramids or w/e...or around the egyptian pyramids.
the largest pyramid in the world isnt in Egypt, its in the dense forests of south america...its dug into a large mountain, and it goes under sea level...and it stands high...
but, i think that when the spanish attacked and conquered, the aztecs and all would have been smart enough to hide such a water.
or fill it w/ sand or something.
Wouldn't certain people pay a fortune for such an elixer? If it does actually exsits somewhere, I am amazed that it hasn't been found. Stranger things have happened. Actually, I wonder if it would be such a wonderful thing as all that? Sure I think I'd like to live forever, but what would be your quality of life? That's a whole nother topic. lol Do you think if it was found that whoever found it would actually share it with the world? I wonder.
What you are refering to is called the Philosipher's Stone. I have studdied Alchemy and studied all that has been referenced towards it. There is only one thing that they ever reffered to in their teachings and that is the process in which to find the Philosipher's Stone. It isn't this all might powerful thing though, it is only a solid/liquid drop of red that is the key between the barrier of the spiritual world and the human world. But yes it has been called many things and one of them is the elixer of life, which is why they used it in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. It wasn't the SORCERER'S stone but the PHILOSIPHER'S stone, and proof is they mention Nicolas Flammel who in reality was an ancient Alchemist who did try to find the stone's material form. All my knowledge came from the actual records of Nicolas Flammel and a website Alchemy
Very Interesting answers I see thank for your replys. Ive been a history buff for years and I remember that many conquerers and explorers searched for the fountain of youth and that some primitive civilizations had acctual documentation on its existence. it was believed that it not only restored youth but also healed the sick and injured. As for the elixir of life many famous alchemists and occultist have tried to create the elixir of life some believeing that if they had partaken of it then they would in fact live forever, some also belivevd they would live forever because it would put them in the state of being the living dead or a Lich so to speak. anyways heres a little of what I know still content on wanting to know more. Ive descovered that most mythology bears some truth and thats how they survive the ages and become immortalized its jhst that over the course of time like all things it slowly works itself further away from the actual true story. anyways im ready to hear more from those who would like to share.
The Wraith
I personally do not believe that such a thing exists for if it did as another on here said why would someone share such a thing? Besides what kind of life would you live.....would you really want to live forever?
Fountian of youth, no.
Elixir of life, maybe but not as people think of it.
Something that will help you cross the veil, helll yes anything that lets you drop the barriers you have.
I believe it is possible for such a thing to exist and that it would be lost to everyone now. The ones who had swore to guard it are long since dead and everything about the cultures were forgotten. We are trying to piece together things that we dont even understand yet. Maybe one day it can be found.
Juan Ponce de Leon went searching for the Fountain of Youth and instead, found what is now the State of Florida in 1513.
An excerpt from our friend, Wikipedia:
A long standing myth is that Spanish explorer Juan Ponce de León was searching for the Fountain of Youth when he travelled to present-day Florida in 1513, but the story did not start with him, nor was it unique to the New World. Tales of healing waters date to at least the time of the Alexander Romance, and were popular right up to the European Age of Exploration. The later legend derives from the "Water of Life" tale in the Eastern versions of the Alexander Romance, where Alexander and his servant cross the Land of Darkness to find the restorative spring. The servant in that story is in turn derived from Middle Eastern legends of Al-Khidr, a sage who appears also in the Qur'an. Arabic and Aljamiado versions of the Alexander Romance were very popular in Spain during and after the period of Moorish rule, and would have been known to the explorers who journeyed to America.
Of course, there are countless indirect sources for the myth as well. Immortality is a gift frequently sought in legend, and stories of things like the philosopher's stone, universal panaceas and the elixir of life are common throughout Eurasia and elsewhere. An additional hint may have been taken from the account of the Pool of Bethesda in the Gospel of John, in which Jesus heals a man at the pool in Jerusalem.
wow didnt knew it .nice to hear about it all .thats why i like vr so much because you get to learn so much every day here.
Excellent work DarkestDesires very good matereal here. I would like to thank each and everyone of you who shared your thoughts and knowledge in this thread. Knowledge truely is Power!
The Wraith
Any time, Wraith! Love reading these kinds of posts! Keep up the good work, my dear.
Another direction One might look is Energy manipulation and clarity of mind...Since the body is powered by energy, control of such energy has a very direct affect on the aging process...Clarity of mind eliminates stress, which is one of the major causes of physical and mental aging...
Hmm good point Enigma, I feel that the little potion in this mythological tale does not exist, although people live to like 115 and look 70.. that could very well be a low stressed life.
well since most myths are based upon some shread of fact it is quite possible for such athing to exist maybe just not quite what would be expected
from wikipedia (very interesting i must say)
elixir of life
The elixir of life, also known as the elixir of immortality and sometimes equated with the Philosopher's stone, is a legendary potion, or drink, that grants the drinker eternal life or eternal youth. Many practitioners of alchemy pursued it for two main reasons: either they sought the gift of immortality for its own sake, or they desired to spend as much time as possible practicing alchemy. The elixir of life was also said to be able to create life. It is related to the myths of Enoch, Thoth, and Hermes Trismegistus, all of whom in various tales are said to have drunk "the white drops" (liquid gold) and thus achieved immortality. It is also associated with the Koran's Al Khidr ('The Green Man'), and is mentioned in one of the Nag Hammadi texts.[1]
History
Naturally, no such potion has ever been discovered though alchemists in ancient China, India, and the West spent a great deal of time and effort on it.
China
In Ancient China, various emperors sought for the fabled elixir with various results. In the Qin Dynasty, Qin Shi Huang sent Taoist alchemist Xu Fu with 500 boys and 500 girls to the eastern seas to find the elixir, but he never came back (legend has it that he found Japan instead). The ancient Chinese believed that ingesting long-lasting precious substances such as jade, cinnabar or hematite would confer some of that longevity on the person who consumed them. Gold was considered particularly potent, as it was a non-tarnishing precious metal; the idea of potable or drinkable gold is found in China by the end of the third century BCE. The most famous Chinese alchemical book, the Tan Chin Yao Ch’eh ("Great Secrets of Alchemy," dating from approximately 650 CE), discusses in detail the creation of elixirs for immortality (mercury, sulfur, and the salts of mercury and arsenic are prominent) as well as those for curing certain diseases and the fabrication of precious stones.
Many of these substances, far from contributing to longevity, were actively toxic. Jiajing Emperor in the Ming Dynasty died from ingesting a lethal dosage of mercury in the supposed "Elixir of Life" conjured by alchemists, and British historian of Joseph Needham compiled a list of Chinese emperors whose death was likely due to elixir poisoning. Chinese interest in alchemy and the elixir of life declined in proportion to the rise in Buddhism, with its alternative routes to immortality.
India
The Vedas (sacred scriptures of India) also contain vague references to a connection between gold and long life. Alexander the Great invaded India in 325 BC and it is possible that Indians acquired the idea from the Greeks, but it could have been the other way around ("ambrosia," the name of the Greek "food of the gods," means "no death"). It is also possible that it came to India from China, or vice versa. But the elixir of immortality was not of great interest in India since Indian religion (like Christianity) provided other avenues to immortality). The Indian elixirs were generally remedies for specific diseases or, at the most, to promote longevity. [2]
Europe
More recently, the Comte St. Germain, an 18th century nobleman of uncertain origin and mysterious capabilities, was reputed to have the Elixir and to be several thousand years old.
Names
The Elixir has had hundreds of names (one scholar of Chinese history reportedly found over 1,000 names for it.), including (among others) Amritsar or Amrita, Aab-i-Hayat, Maha Ras, Aab-Haiwan, hasma-i-Kausar, Mansarover or the Pool of Nectar, and Soma Ras. The word elixir was not used until the 7th century A.D. and derives from the Arabic name for miracle substances, "al iksir." Some view it as a metaphor for the spirit of God (e.g. Jesus' reference to "the Water of Life" or "the Fountain of Life"). And of course the Scots and the Irish adopted the name for their "liquid gold": the Gaelic name for whisky is uisge beatha, or water of life.
I would think if there was a elixir for life somewhere then there would be ablot of people after it and alot of them willing to pay lots of money for it. If there is then why has no one been able to find it or even come near to finding it. I am not saying that there is no such thing but until i can be prove there is no way of knowing for sure. J
to live forever and never die...the most painful thing ever!
you would still live as your wife, your children would grow older and older until they pass away too. you would litteraly be the only person of your blood line left.
and the pain of life, if ppl think its bad now, then why would tey want to live forever? and have to live in this painful world forever?
you get shot, it would most likely hurt, but you wouldnt die if you got hit in a vital place...and there is nothing that says you heal, so you could probly be walking around w/ thousand year old fresh battle wounds! and maybe, you would eventualy be more of a zombie b/c you get hurt so many times and live, but not heal.
Thank you Rowiel for that enlightening information, That was excellent home work. Interesting view point Enigma and a very good point I might add. I applaude you Paulo on your theory. Thank you all who responded to this thread it was quite educational and enlightening. Well im going to leave this thread open prolly today then its gonna be RIP so all who would like to share you thoughts please do so.
The Wraith
I was reading thru a toaist alchemy boook a while back that wne thru the cycle of creating a version of such an elixer thru external, internal and sexual alchemy, yet for th elife of me I cannot remmeber the tile of the book this moment.
we all hold the elixir of life and some dont even know it for every drop of blood or energy we consume thats more we add to our lives