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Are the "Monsters" (Serial Killers, Pedophiles, ect...) in real life created by the intentional acts or lack thereof by each of us as we interact with other individuals on a daily basis? Should we accept part of the blame for their anti-social behavior or is the blame theirs alone to bare?

Antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) is described by the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fourth edition (DSM-IV-TR), as an Axial II personality disorder characterized by "... a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood."[6] A person usually is not diagnosed until after age 18, and must represent symptoms from an early age.[6] This disorder can be difficult to diagnose and treat since people with anti-social behaviours would not seek care, or listen to others. It may take a court mandate for people to seek treatment they need. Diagnosis is done by a trained mental health professional.[citation needed]

“ Because the criteria for diagnosing Antisocial Personality Disorder emphasize overt violations of social rules, it is not surprising that it correlates so well with criminality. Research on American criminals showed that 25 to 30 percent of the imprisoned inmates meet the criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder. Canadian researcher Robert Hare (1983) reported that 40 to 50 percent of the convicted prisoners in Canada met the criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder and that in some Canadian prison populations the rate was as high as 75 percent. Psychopathic prisoners on average have longer sentences and are less successful in staying out of prison than nonpsychopathic prisoners ”

—DSM IV TR

From the following link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-social_behaviour

You know a lot of people do not take the blame for these "Monsters" being out on the streets or just being in general. There all these Excuses and people are acting like they are so blameless. I mean if you were to take a poll on how many teens and adults were bullied in school there is probably a decent amount, but if you ask how many of us have bullied another we probably would not admit to doing so.
So, we all judge and think because someone commits such an act they are a terrible person, but are these people really terrible or is it a misunderstanding? Its really all perception if you ask me. And none of us are innocent I am sure we have all done something horrible in our lives even if it has not put us into incarceration.

Monsters came belong to both camps. Some are actually created by their surroundings and upbringing; some have lead charmed lives. Some are mentally disturbed; some are not.
I believe that the real monsters are the one who know right from wrong, and don't care who or what they hurt.

Truthfully, there are very few real life monsters.

Most are sad and mad, very few are Bad, and of those, when you deconstruct them, they are often victims themselves.

Thus, whilst neither condemning nor condoning their actions, people with higher IQ's can often see what and why it occurred.

It is well documented the MOAO gene combined with child abuse causes murderous anti social behavior.

The most interesting cases are the elite children. Such as the Hollywood kid who murdered 6 students. In my experience the "Do gooder parents " are unwittingly at fault.

If they had tanned his arse and reigned in his fits years ago this would probably never had occurred. "Cruel to be Kind" is as true today as it ever was.

The tricky bit is knowing which personality types this works on and which it will never work on. Experience is the ONLY Key.

Another thread alluding to Nurture vs Nature. The disorder is just that a disorder, a short in the brains development effecting the coping of the individual affected. Thus they lash out in extreme manners to "feel" something, to entertain themselves. Blaming society wholly is unfair, and shows how misinformed people can be.

I read in some book - cannot recall the title - that these "potential" monsters are actually natured. Well, except perhaps when it comes to women, who usually act as an accomplice or may even take the main role of being a "monster".

Psycholgists and psychiatrists alike get these criminals in acts of art, such as painting and stuff. Although very nice to view, these paintings by these "monsters" contain something very odd. If I am not mistaken, one of the serial murderers had painted a picture of a nature surrounding. However, he had left out the shadows and reflections in the picture. I am not sure if it was just carelessness but some experts pointed out the oddity of the painting saying that a normal person would not have left these things out.

Some "monsters" work based on faith, revenge, abuse, gratification and stuff. I'd say it's both factors. Nature and nurture. When people make mistakes, they'd often feel remorse.

Remorse, in these cases, would be very limited and probably never even thought of in the first place.

I would almost never blame the upbringing. I blame it on abuse and torment. Sometimes it happens.

The nature, and nurture, of psychopathy

By Gina Maffey
British Science Association Media Fellow (BBC Countryfile)

Not all children who are aggressive and engage in acts such as truancy, lying and stealing will grow up to be psychopaths, said Professor Essi Viding yesterday.

Viding, who is Co-director of the Risk and Resilience Unit at University College London, was speaking ahead of the British Science Association’s Festival of Science which will take place next week in Aberdeen.

Only a sub-group of children whose behaviour is antisocial will show the callous, unemotional traits characteristic of real psychopaths: proactive aggression, no remorse for their actions, being unlikely to respond to punishment and finding it difficult to empathise with others’ distress, said Viding.

Recent studies demonstrate that nature and nurture may both have a role in the development of psychopathy in adulthood.

Callous, unemotional traits may be affected by both a child's genetics, together with environmental influences. In the same way that some of us are at more risk of heart disease due to genetic vulnerability, so children can be genetically susceptible to developing psychopathy in adulthood.

However, just as those at risk of heart disease can reduce their risk through a healthy diet and exercise, so the risk of developing psychopathy can be reduced through positive parenting.

Professor Viding warns, though, that due to genetic inheritance it is likely that parents themselves will find it difficult to respond positively when continually faced with a problematic child.


As we begin to understand more about the potential for children to develop psychopathy in adulthood, it is clear that we also need to prepare for increased support to provide nurturing environments that extend beyond the family home.

Once psychopathic behaviour becomes intrinsic in adulthood, said Viding, it is a lot more difficult to change than the developing traits in a growing child.


http://www.britishscienceassociation.org/british-science-festival/news/nature-and-nurture-psychopathy

I meant to include that it is equally unfair to blame solely the psychopath, or sociopath for their behavior as well, although this does not default others as the blamable party. it is part genetics, as well as I have said before developmental shortcomings of physiological, and neurological types.

Conduct disorder is a childhood behaviour disorder that is characterized by persistent aggressive or antisocial behaviour that disrupts the child's environment and impairs his or her functioning. A proportion of children with conduct disorder have psychopathic traits. Psychopathic traits consist of a callous–unemotional component and an impulsive–antisocial component, which are associated with two core impairments. The first is a reduced empathic response to the distress of other individuals, which primarily reflects reduced amygdala responsiveness to distress cues; the second is deficits in decision making and in reinforcement learning, which reflects dysfunction in the ventromedial prefrontal cortex and striatum. Genetic and prenatal factors contribute to the abnormal development of these neural systems, and social–environmental variables that affect motivation influence the probability that antisocial behaviour will be subsequently displayed.

http://www.nature.com/nrn/journal/v14/n11/full/nrn3577.html

Tragically enough the child's condition, and behavior is the initiating factor that disrupts the environment in most cases.
As the abuse, and over reaction by parents, and teachers is in response to the over the top behavior of the child.

Like the old "game" of taking someones hand, and hitting them with it, and saying "Stopping hitting yourself."

Here is a profile of psychopaths, and a clarification of variables in the spectrum.

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm

Notable, and relevant excerpt from the article.

"Some researchers think that psychopathy is the result of some attachment or bonding difficulty as an infant. Dr. Hare has turned the idea around, after all his years digging into the background of psychopaths. He says:

In some children the very failure to bond is a symptom of psychopathy. It is likely that these children lack the capacity to bond readily, and that their lack of attachment is largely the result, not the cause, of psychopathy. [Hare]

In other words: they are born that way and you can't fix them.

To many people, the idea of a child psychopath is almost unthinkable. But the fact is, true psychopaths are born, not made. Oh, indeed, there is the psychopath that is "made," but they are generally different from the born psychopath in a number of ways.

The fact is, clinical research clearly demonstrates that psychopathy does not spring unannounced into existence in adulthood. The symptoms reveal themselves in early life. It seems to be true that parents of psychopaths KNOW something is dreadfully wrong even before the child starts school. Such children are stubbornly immune to socializing pressures. They are "different" from other children in inexplicable ways. They are more "difficult," or "willful," or aggressive, or hard to "relate to." They are difficult to get close to, cold and distant and self-sufficient.

One mother said: "We were never able to get close to her even as an infant. She was always trying to have her own way, whether by being sweet, or by having a tantrum. She can put on a sweet and contrite act…"

The fact is: childhood psychopathy is a stark reality, and failing to recognize it can lead to years of vain attempts to discover what is wrong with a child, and the parent blaming themselves. Hare writes:

As the signs of social breakdown grow more insistent, we no longer have the luxury of ignoring the presence of psychopathy in certain children. Half a century ago Hervey Cleckley and Robert Lindner warned us that our failure to acknowledge the psychopaths among us had already triggered a social crisis. Today our social institutions - our schools, courts, mental health clinics - confront the crisis every day in a thousand ways, and the blindfold against the reality of psychopathy is still in place.[…]"

I personally question including pedophiles in the ranks of psychopaths. I would say that pedos are a whole other issue.

Article from this source:http://knowledgenuts.com/2013/11/03/the-difference-between-psychopaths-and-sociopaths/


The Edge [. . .] There is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.” —Hell’s Angels, Hunter S. Thompson
In A Nutshell

Oftentimes, we think of the terms “psychopath” and “sociopath” as being used interchangeably to describe people who have no conscience and act with no regard to others; in fact, the terms were once fairly interchangeable. Now, however, “psychopath” is usually used in regards to someone who has crossed the line into the criminal element, while a sociopath is of little danger to those around them. A psychopath is the more dangerous of the two, but it’s also the one you’d never suspect a person of being.

Also I should include that Pedophilia is more a symptom of Social Deviance then it is Sociopath, or Psychopathy. Many molesters, and child rapist are ashamed of what they do, and some even have developed unnatural affections for their victims.. something a psychopath isn't about.


Plus here is a response response a a readers comment in the following article:

http://www.manipulative-people.com/predators-among-us-the-psychopaths/




"Having a 17 year history working with such folks, I have lots to say and stories to tell, but I really must save it for a separate post. Way too much to say to delve into it right now. But to whet your appetites: not all child molesters are pedophiles, not all child molesters or pedophiles are psychopaths, and not all are predators either. And there’s a HUGE difference between someone who’s born with an unusual pattern of attraction that they can’t control and someone who’s willing to stalk, rape, or even murder a child. Believe it or not, there are even pedophiles who never offend (persons with an abnormal sexual interest who never act on it). Anyway, I’ll do a post on it sometime or maybe even a series. Some of the very best manipulative scenarios I have on file are from interviews with these types. They could be illuminating."

If you read the articles above it becomes clear that to ask who is to blame is an inaccurate approach to the subject. The psychopath welcomes the conclusion that it is not their fault, that it is societies fault. Simple put though in all actually the psychopath unperturbed by such technicalities. They are apt to manipulate any interviewer to slant things anyway the interviewer hints at going. In their perspective they have no problem at all, it is society at large that they scoff at. They are after all of the opinion that society is naive, and gullible. So when society frets over there existence, and presents affirmatives as to what contributes to a psychopathic nature the psychopathic community adopts it, and projects hints that it is so.

Killings, Conviction and Execution

Shortly after midnight on January 4, 1974, Bundy first attempted murder. He broke into the basement bedroom of a female student at the University of Washington, bludgeoned her in her sleep and sexually assaulted her. She survived, but suffered permanent brain damage. Over the following four months, he killed three students; another from the University of Washington on January 31, one from Evergreen State College on March 12 and one from Central Washington State College on April 17. After more abductions and murders, the authorities became aware that the same man, who a number of witnesses had said called himself "Ted", was responsible for the disappearances. Among the people who reported Bundy as a potential suspect were his ex-girlfriend, one of his psychology professors, and Ann Rule. Because of his reputation as a clean-shaven and well-mannered student, the police paid no attention to their tips. During this time, he also killed women in Oregon. Bundy then moved on to Salt Lake City, Utah where he attended the University of Utah College of Law and became a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, though he never really attended any gatherings. During the first semester, he killed four more women, one of which was the daughter of a police chief. The next semester, 1975, he killed four more women, three of which were taken in Colorado. The fourth was 13-year old Lynette Culver, who was abducted from a school playground in Pocatello, Idaho, taken to a hotel room, and raped and drowned in a bathtub. As with a number of Bundy's victims, her body was never found. He killed another girl, 15-year old Susan Curtis, during his summer break. On August 16, he was pulled over when he wouldn't stop for a police officer. Inside his car, the officer found balaclavas, gloves, a crowbar, handcuffs, and other items he suspected to be burglary tools. On March 1, 1976, he was sentenced to 15 years in prison for the kidnapping of Carol DaRonch, whom he had tried to abduct in Utah in 1974 by pretending to be a police officer.

Bundy Custody

Bundy in custody.
In 1977, investigators had found enough evidence to charge Bundy with the January 1975 murder of Caryn Campbell, who had disappeared while on a ski trip, and managed to extradite him to Aspen. At the Pitkin County courthouse, Bundy was allowed to visit the courthouse library. From there, he escaped through a window but was pulled over in a stolen car for having dimmed headlights and arrested again. He was placed in a jail in Glenwood Springs, from which he escaped on December 30, 1977, by somehow getting his hands on a hacksaw and $500 and getting out through a crawlspace. By the time the jail staff realized that he was missing, he had already made his way to Chicago. After then spending some time at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor and in Atlanta, he settled at Tallahassee, Florida on January 8, where he supported himself through shoplifting and purse snatching. On January 15, 1978, Bundy committed his first murders in almost two-and-a-half years. He broke into the Chi Omega sorority at the Florida State University, raped, strangled, and bludgeoned students Lisa Levy and Margaret Bowman. Two other students were also attacked but survived. The same night, he attacked another woman eight blocks away; she also survived.
Tedbundy

Bundy during his trial.

On February 9, 1978, Bundy committed his last known murder. He abducted 12-year-old Kimberly Leach outside her school, raped and killed her and tried to hide the body in an abandoned hog shed. On the morning of February 15, he was arrested for driving a stolen vehicle and was quickly linked to the sorority murders. In the end, Bundy received two death sentences; one for the sorority murders and one for the murder of Kimberly Leach. Two pieces of evidence proved crucial: a set of bite marks on Lisa Levy's buttocks and the testimony of a Chi Omega resident who hadn't been present at the killings and saw Bundy leave the building. Bundy spent the better part of the 1980s fighting his sentence. During this time, he was interviewed by FBI profiler Robert Ressler, who found him uncooperative, and married Carole Ann Boone, a former co-worker, and had a daughter, Tina, with her in October 1982. When Bundy talked about the murders, he always did so in third-person and speaking hypothetically. As the execution date came closer, Bundy confessed to more murders for which he hadn't previously been conclusively linked to. In October 1984, Bundy contacted the Green River Task Force and offered personal insights on the case, which hadn't been solved at the time. At 7:06 a.m. on January 24, 1989, Bundy was executed by electric chair. His last words were "I'd like you to give my love to my family and friends." In May of 2012, John Henry Browne, who defended Bundy during his final trial, claimed in a memoir describing his conversations with Bundy that he claimed to have killed over 100 people and that his first victim had been a man.

From the following link:
http://criminalminds.wikia.com/wiki/Ted_Bundy

So what are you getting at? It is obvious that Bundy was a very famous example of a Psychopath. What is your point in including this? Just curious.

@ Doru

I am surprised at his tenacity, audacity and lack of remorse. It is indeed cruel and shows that something wicked in him drives him to carry out these acts. Seems like an obsession.

@ Doru

I am surprised at the tenacity, audacity and lack of remorse. Seems like an obsession.

Are there real-life monsters on Rave, though? :)

Lordess, that's just it, it is not something "in him" that compels such people, it is what is not present. They have no inhibition. They are under the impression that we are inferior to them.

dab, my point is that people from every day life can be the next Ted Bundy or the endless list of Real Life Monsters that we read about in the headlines daily.

And yes lordess, I am sure there are.

i think it's a 50% genetic and 50% how their peers treat them and what experiences they had as a child/young adult as to how they turned out but we can't blame ourselves, it could be possible some people are made good and some are just made bad

Not just anybody. Yes indeed there is a genetic factor. The environment that propagates a psychopath is usually a pathological social environment. We are talking about a very deviant upbringing. Yet there needs to be an inborn lack of inhibitions, remorse, and general lack of empathy for people in distress. I seriously suggest reading the articles I posted URLs for. It is not just a matter of anyone can be a psycho/sociopath. To repetitively state that it is a black, and white issue is naive, and only serves to hinder decoding the actually factors involved. It technically plays right into the hands of psycho/sociopaths that hide among us.. in plan sight, always testing to see just how they can apply themselves.

blamming society or family or pair pressure or whatever the paper delevery boy for the actions or claming its the "reason" this person has become this monster is liek saying: not his fault he's a pedophile he was abuse
sory but NO, there is no excuse, the only one I would consider is: mental illness.

We all have to choose at one point, to either become a monster or not.

2 man from the same family exaclty the same raise the same with a woman beater father drink alchoholic etch etch excatly the same school the same treatement the friends the same surrounding exactly: one become like his dad and blams his dad saying its his dad's fault he's like that the other become totally the oposite a kind and respectful working person, he also blams his dad, he choose not to be like his dad and he learned from that

Most people will "deresponsibilise" themselves for their actions always saying its not my fault...

Not my fault i beat up woman my dad was doing it...

Not my fault I rape little girls/boys my dad was doing it...

Not my fault i am killing innocent people I was bullied when I was a kid...

These are not reasons, these are pathetic excuses.

If we were in a time where no help is availalbe where it is "normal" for certain things ( well not normal but more like no one is aware and we don't speak about it, like raps and such ) where is was normal to even go drunk at work or sitting drunk at the village's church and such etch, in the 20's or 1800 some things well, we can,t do about because it was how society saw them as a "normal" thing since it was never spoken about or worst silenced 99.999999% of the time preferable to speaking as it was consider "normal" act for certain "circles"
but in the recent 50 years.... many things are different and even more then 50 but lets stick with a small amount of time,

there is thew monster who wants to be famous: who remembers the name of the victims who worships the victims who has sympathie for the victims... ok in the first 48 hours but aftert hat?.... alsmot no one, in court its the name of the killer, etch that becoms known, gets fan mail, gets gift from admirer in jail gets notority gets powerful gets adored... gets remember as a star... and most monsters want that... some get also even consider as the poor innocent victim of the system and need to be poor poor them while the victims are smply... either forgotten or worst at timesx blammed, like the girl blammed of the being rapped because she wore ear rings its her fault... or the 2 year old who had a lolipop or not even anything just was there "existing"

anyhow thats my two cents, I only consider that the only monsters who are not responsible are the one with mental illness the rest, are responsible and the socity is also repsonsible for giving them the honor of being adored and worship as stars.

good day all

wow i was broad sided Ms. Serenity. A well made point about notoriety. The topic of Murder Fandom could be a thread all itself.

My opinion, no I don't think people should share in the blame.

I do however think that people are responsible for ensuring rehabilitation back into society, if they are released. That is a responsibility that being part of society entails.

As for understanding the why and wherefore Id leave that to a psychiatrist.

I think most of it is in them, and then people and experiences, continue to add more influence to the person. Usually murderers start torturing animals during childhood, that's already an early indication. There are many people who got abused and didn't become murderers, so I support more the nature idea in this rather than nurture.

Man,
acts more like how a pet is treated.

Like pit bull dogs,
they arent nasty at all,unless treated that way,
or tought.

It's how a man or woman lives,
what they been threw..continues to how they think,
and see things.How they lived,what they like to
see,and hear.what they are surrounded by.

But,there is some..i say about the 1% of thoes
who become monsters..that have somthing wrong
with there mind.They don't know the difference
between right and wrong.they just can't understand.

99% are thoes who wish to do these things,
to either get back,to put pain onto another for joy
or release of there own suffering.

Humans,like animals can only take so much.
Some stronger then others,some are very very weak
and can break down to anything.

A monster...
has NO moral.
Never cares.
To only seek to there own pleasure.
That can never love.
This is a monster,
a real monster.

Wow, Dabs. That was interesting AND scary.

(I wonder if one or both of Charlie Sheen's boys are psychopaths)

When I was in junior high one of my classmates little brothers pushed a little girl out the back of a pick-up truck that was moving. When asked why he did it, he said, he wanted to see how she would land. I never forgot reading that news report.

My personal interest in sociopaths, and psychopaths started after I dealt with the assistant manager that terrorized the gas station i worked for. He cost me my career of 12 years. he created such an atmosphere that three people cycled through because of his antics, and abuses of position.

This is where the controversy between a mental Illness and Possession by evil spirit collide. Most of the people and many of the Catholic priests, believe, that the mind and heart of many humans, has been taken by such of entities. Now, for the medical community, the illness is just anti-social behavior. These humans, are the worse of the worse. From shooting at a high School to a killing at an Airport. Everything is related. So, what do you believe. For some of the reader, they will need the tangible approach to any situation. These are the Monsters of our time.

There are some professionals that speculate that they are the sign of genetic evolution traits.

My latest person to be analyze is the shooter in Oregon. This is what the new wrote: ""We have not established any link between the shooter and the victim," Police Chief Scott Anderson said. He added, "At this time it would be inappropriate to discuss a possible motive" for the shooting.

Padgett came to school with a daunting array of weaponry in a guitar case and a duffel bag. Anderson said he fired an AR-15 rifle, but also had a semi-automatic handgun, a knife, and nine loaded magazines capable of holding "several hundred rounds."

Padgett was wearing a vest designed to hold ammunition and a multi-sport helmet with camouflage.

Because Padgett carried so much ammunition, the "early notification was critical".

Some people are believing what I believe. This kid was a monster possessed and after killing a person, got a moment of control over himself and ended his life to protect others. He got so many bullets that if he go in a killing rampage, there will not be enough body bags for the deads.

These spree killers are a different kind of monster. Not sociopaths, or psychopaths necessarily. Had he psychopathic traits he would not have took his own life. As far as the Vagas shooters, I seriously consider them to have had major Persecution complexes. Hell even the Nevada protesters against the government rejected them from their property saying they were to radical. Plus Jared (I know another Jared) was a felon, which most activist avoid like the plague. Even the Seattle shooter had tells of being a person with a Persecution complex. They all feel tormented thus they build the urge to strike back.

I think the *spur of the moment* spree killers do it for the fame and recognition for their terrible acts..I don't think they are psychopathic..

But for whatever in that moment they decide to kill with such violence as to mass kill innocents..I sense many are terribly upset with themselves.. and need attention.. sadly.. they choose this way about it.. Are they Monsters? Perhaps,, if only for that moment..

Other Monsters.. Perhaps are *born that way*.. I don't know..
I can't see blaming society.. or 100% of it on their environment..
A combination maybe.. But do real life monsters exist? yes.. I think so.

There is a lot of prep involved in building up to these killing sprees. so there is that. It is like an socially defective weed, it takes place in them, germinates, and sprouts up. Most of these individuals have a narrow perspective, and fixate on that which the see as insulting to them, and their irrational opinions of themselves, and how they reason things should be.

I do agree with that Dabbler.. But I also feel that in that mix.. of building up, they find some sort of *glory* with their justifications.. Thus being a fame or attention for their actions.. regardless of reason for it.

I fully agree with that as well. "Look at me!" "Notice Me!" "They'll Never Forget Me!" all likey ideas running through the heads of these nuts. it becomes obvious when they take the time to write elaborate journals, and manifestos. sadly though the victims names drop into obscurity. Just ask a murder buff (fan) the name of one of Bundys Victims, or Gacys, or a student that died, or was wounded at Columbine.

I agree.. Sadly those victims names never stay fresh in the documentaries of these *monsters*.. Most don't anyway.. You may get a few names but.. its mostly about the killers..

My Brother was murdered.. And not a day goes by that I do not think of him.. and though.. it was not by a serial killer or a mass murdering nut job.. When I hear people talk about it in this small town,, they always mention the 2 guys.. but hardly ever do I hear my brothers name.. For me. that is ok.. it's painful enough.. and I just turn my ear.. and knowall about the real Victims..

Lox

I think society should share the blame. Lets look at the school shootings. These kids do not just wake up one morning grab daddy's gun and head to school to kill there classmates. They put weeks and sometimes months into planning these horrific events. There are red flags all over the place with these kids. A few have been hospitalized before. The US has one of the worst Mental Health systems in all the world. When I say society I speak of the parents, people who are around these people, the school system, and neighbors. No one wants to get involved. Many of these kids post videos on Youtube or social media. As I said there red flags all over the place around these people. rather it is a generic problem in there brains I do not know. I think some are just born evil. Many serial killers start off by killing small animals. Research and studies have shown patterns they all pretty much do starting back in child hood. Society keeps turning a blind eye, Hospital keep releasing these people and offering them below standard medical help, thus these horrific events will keep happening. These kids who do this are in pain. They need help. They need people around them to stop looking away.

Blame? Maybe not. I think from the way you stated it this may be a clearer term. . Culpable negligence - (law) recklessly acting without reasonable caution and putting another person at risk of injury or death (or failing to do something with the same consequences).

Concluding that all these individuals are "Evil". Makes it easy for these types to slip through the cracks. There goes that theory. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/oregon-school-shooter-wrote-plan-kill-sinners-cops-article-1.1829711


So in his mind he was being righteous!

My opinion is to eliminate the problem before the problem strike. Total elimination. Sound a little drastic but, is just a little human flesh.

America’s Serial Killers – How Many?

It was a small but horrifying item in the Los Angeles Times. “Police are asking for the public’s help in identifying what they call a ‘serious, dangerous serial killer operating in Orange County. Police believe one person is responsible for stabbing three middle-aged homeless men. He is (considered) extremely dangerous to the public.” Another serial killer, I thought. And then the question: How many serial killers are out there in America? John Douglas, a former Chief of the FBI’s Elite Serial Crime Unit and author of FBI Agent John Douglas “Mind Hunter” says, “A very conservative estimate is that there are between 35-50 active serial killers in the United States” at any given time. Often, Douglas told me, they will, “kill 2-3 victims and then have a “cooling-off” period between kills.”

From the following link:
http://dianedimond.net/americas-serial-killers-how-many/

Hardly a state in the union hasn’t had a serial killer. California, Texas and Florida seem to have more than their fair share. And mass graves have been found all around the country. Two examples: The 11 bodies of young women and an infant found on the isolated West Mesa outside Albuquerque. And, an eerily similar case thousands of miles away in Long Island, New York where authorities unearthed 10 bodies – eight women and a toddler along with a man dressed in women’s clothes. These are among the serial killer dumping grounds that have been found. Many others may go undetected forever.

The best thing we can do is be vigilant. Know that many victims of serial killers put themselves in harm’s way. Most are women who have some contact with the sex trade or illegal drug underworld and if they have children they are in grave danger too.

Reaching Troubled Kids Early is Key Dr. Maurice Godwin has studied serial killers for years and one in-depth analysis of 107 of them revealed important information. Godwin found 55% of serial killers began having trouble in childhood and had criminal juvenile records. 45% had been convicted for a previous sex crime. As with so many criminals it goes back to their early formative years and the best lesson we can learn is that when we find a troubled child we best help them.

Failure to do so could result in another serial killer walking among us.

From the following link:
http://dianedimond.net/americas-serial-killers-how-many/

California and Texas are among the biggest US states so it goes without reasoning that bigger the state, more people, more bad people.

I was reading about American serial killers the other day, and a vast majority of the list I read through had been abused as a child (sexually or otherwise), dropped out of school early, had bad relationships with people from a young age and generally grew up thinking the worst of the world and everyone they met.