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Many Moons ago a number of learned Witches and Vamps stated mind tricks were not only real but far more powerful than mundane science accepted.

I understand why, the notion beings could communicate and influence others without any means of interception struck fear into every branch of surveillance and government.

We gave examples of witches who were hung for seeing the sinking of ships in WW2. We gave examples of predictions and "distant sight" of things that had no known connections.

Now Harvard University and New Scientist have shown distant communication and even remote control of other animals such as rats is quite possible.

My question? if this is possible what else is possible, is all matter connected? can Savants do even more ? are Vampires the advanced super humans to break the mold? Is the Church deliberately trying to hide the truth?

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-29093700




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Some believe that it is all related to a "seamless web of Consciousness". As to whether that amounts to telepathy is arguable. It could just be a so-called meeting of the minds, like in contractual issues. "Are you thinking what I'm thinking?" is asked often. I believe there is no coincidence, but synchronicity is plausible. It is all logic, in my opinion.



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"Research led by experts at Harvard University shows technology can be used to send a simple mental message from one person to another without any contact between the two. "

So how is this the telepathy that these so called Witches, and vamps sought? Who is this "We" that gave evidence of ships sinking?

Your forum post are consistently nonsensical, and boisterous.



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Also worth mentioning is the fact that if anything comes of this research then it was Science that thunk it out, and made it so, not those proponents of ESP, and "Remote Viewing". It is (as is) nothing phenomenal as far as evidence goes. Just shows how technology can interact with the brain activity. See if you can find any longer more involved articles on this.. Because I searched and nothing beyond this article came up.



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Telepathy from the ancient greek, tele meaning distant and pathos or pathia
meaning feeling , perception, passion, affliction, experience, is the purported
transmission of information from one person to another without using any of
our known sensory channels or physical interaction. The term was coined in
1882 by the classical scholar Frederic W.H Myers a founder of the society for
Psychical Research. No scientific evidence that says it is real but experiments
are still being conducted.



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Mad Scientist, it was Helen Duncan who was tried for witchcraft in the UK for "sight" of the large number of deaths of a UK ship.

The New Scientist also reported on using thoughts to control rats.

The BBc Harvard and the New Scientists are reliable sources.
We are not talking about gossip on "Reddit"

I am a bit "Loud" about these things as I have been told but the good and the great on VR I am a lunatic.

Since I have now brought strong evidence to the table, on Two key themes- One, that Vamps have other mind abilities mundanes struggle with. Two, it is possible blood has restorative elements being researched, I would ask for a more open minded approach.

If that is too much to ask, prepare for further word spankings.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_Duncan

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23343-interspecies-telepathy-human-thoughts-make-rat-move.html#.VA6axRa4FYE



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First of all you, and your writs are pompous. Always weaving in things that have nothing to do with the front topic. Who gives a flying fuck about Duncan, or Vamps getting energy. Stop clumping your threads.

Now, this does nothing to make a case for traditional telepathy, and again before you bang your pots and pans and say "New Science has done it, In your face." first it is not New Science.. and haven't you in all post comments denounced science? So now that science seems to cater to your farfetched fascinations instead of just admitting science did it you interject "New " as if you didn't just pull that out of your ass for the occasion that you would have to contradict your previous position. So regardless of weather or not this research is validated (as it still needs peer review) you are a fool in the manner that you load your crap with it. Why not just let it stand as a topic on its own? As I said you are just boisterous, and seeking to self promote yourself as a "In the Know deep person, when you are in fact not.



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Besies you still haven't replied to the fact that it was Science that researched this, and got findings (significant or not), and not those that are the self proclaimed experts on the subject.

Anyway why are you just now getting this news it is ancient already, funny how you constantly present older articles as if they were breaking news. Here is another bit of older info.


Harvard Researchers Dispute ESP
By Jessica R. Henderson, CONTRIBUTING WRITER January 7, 2008
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Harvard psychologists have released a study that they say provides the most convincing evidence yet against the existence of extrasensory perception (ESP).

In a study published in this month’s issue of the Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, graduate student Samuel T. Moulton ’01 and Psychology Professor Stephen M. Kosslyn used functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) to assess whether individuals can have knowledge that does not come from normal perceptual processes. This focus on the brain sets their study apart from previous ESP research.

In the study, researchers tested three types of ESP­: telepathy, clairvoyance, and precognition.

The procedure involved participants viewing sets of photographs while inside an fMRI scanner. Some of the pictures, designated “ESP stimuli,” were also presented to the subject via the different forms of ESP. Stimuli shown telepathically were presented simultaneously to another person—the subject’s relative, romantic partner or friend—in a separate location. Stimuli presented by clairvoyance, the ability to perceive distant things or events, were displayed on a computer located outside the subject’s field of vision. Finally, pictures presented through precognition, the ability to see into the future, were shown to subjects at a later time.

According to Moulton, if ESP existed, the brain would respond differently to pictures designated as ESP stimuli and non-ESP stimuli. Theoretically, pictures perceived through ESP should produce a pattern in the brain similar to ones produced when an individual sees a previously encountered stimulus.

Instead, Moulton found that participants responded identically to both stimuli types, resulting in the lack of a statistically significant difference that is referred to as a “null result.”

Moulton said null results have made previous ESP research difficult to interpret, but that he wanted to design an experiment that would give information independent of whether or not it produced null results.

“We didn’t find anything, but we didn’t find anything in an interesting way,” he said.

Moulton said he was initially inspired by research he conducted for his senior thesis, which demonstrated that brain activity is affected by previous exposure, even when this exposure is subconscious.

When asked why people believe in ESP, Moulton said he believes that cognitive biases can result in people interpreting events in a paranormal way.

“We’re hard-wired to see patterns in things that are probably random,” he said.

He acknowledged that while null results can never be used to conclusively prove that ESP does not exist, he was glad to have done his part toward settling the age-old debate.

Aside from getting published, Kosslyn said that the study also provided him with a Christmas present to give.

“I got my mom’s brain on the cover of the journal,” Moulton said. “She participated in the study, and then they put her scan on the cover, and that was her present.”



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Let us look at the article.. it says nothing about "New Science" the make telepathy is in ' make telepathy breakthrough' see the thing your bias misses is that this is not pure it involves technology. So even if this research pans out you, and all proponents of naturally occurring telepathy still are left empty hand. All the other crap you loaded into this thread is dismissible as pap.



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Yea Exe.. just what is this "New Science", and where does it hint in the article that this is "New Science"?



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Pray tell how this:

"are Vampires the advanced super humans to break the mold? Is the Church deliberately trying to hide the truth?" Has anything to do with the actual topic. However isn't this your Veiled Platform for every post you make?



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From: Dictionary.com:

Science [sahy-uh ns]

noun
1. a branch of knowledge or study dealing with a body of facts or truths systematically arranged and showing the operation of general laws: the mathematical sciences.

2. systematic knowledge of the physical or material world gained through observation and experimentation.

3. any of the branches of natural or physical science.

4. systematized knowledge in general.

5. knowledge, as of facts or principles; knowledge gained by systematic study.

6. a particular branch of knowledge.

7. skill, especially reflecting a precise application of facts or principles; proficiency.


There is nothing "new" about this.



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Even if you said fringe science Exe you would be erroneous. the only prefixes that belong in from of science are neuro etc. Or in most cases of researchers now a days Pseudoscience. All this is is applied neuroscience, it clearly does nothing to substantiate your assertion that "Vamps" are uber beings, with minds unlike "Mundanes". Funny how science that refutes you is Mundane, but science that tickles your fancy is New.



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I'm in complete agreement with MadScientist, this post is utter nonsense and is totally unfounded in ANY sense of reality, nor is it backed up with any actual evidence, science, proof....whatever.

Being tried for "witchcraft" is no more proof of witchcraft than having a book published about the Moon's green cheese is proof that it is indeed made of green cheese.

Perhaps when you can actually prove what you're talking about without going off on random, unrelated tangents or promoting fairy tales, people will actually begin to take you seriously.

This type of "debate" to "prove" your fantasy only serves to harm honest seekers of knowledge.



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Well articulated Mr. X.

See the article interesting enough, and worth hashing over. However in your approach you fail. Adding writs to the thread congest things, and make something more of a journal entry, or member article. If you are so deep in these topics why not expound from your accumulated academic searching. Rather then pitching the same veiled topics of Vamp superiority, and supernatural speculation. Try leaving out your obvious disdain and conspiracy tangles as well, or people will see it as a veiled propaganda.



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My observations are as usual Existentialism is attempting to claim that because their was a breakthrough in one aspect of potential ESP then all his other fantasies are by default credible. Existentialism that is simply not the case. If you notice the article has 'Telepathy is Proven' in quotes. As in the verdict is still out.



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Well there is buzz about this on the science front. But it doesn't substantiate anything paranormalist speculate. Keep in mind that the research involved devices, and that it was not an unassisted natural projection of thought.

I look forward to reading the follow up to this study, and research. For once Ex old boy dug up a good article.. to bad he stuffed the box he delivered it in with soggy tabloid paper.



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Existentialism
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Well, who could have predicted such rants on a Public Forum?

Ahem...
I laid the trap for the extremists and Bigots and true to character they obliged like sperm into an infected uterus.

In all fairness, I gave them fair warning being direspectful and close minded would be outed as being petty and close minded.

"New Science" what new science, the link is claerly posted as "The new scientist"...a deeply respected and well known organisation.

Therefore one can only conclude these posts are borne out of ignorance rather than enlightenment. A common theme amongst extremists such as Isis.

As you say ....I will name no names...I,m guessing you know who you are.

The whole point of this thread is that Science is ACTUALLY proving much of which you have DENIED is possible. Trying to claim praise for that which you have openly slagged off and disuaded id pathetic.

Perverting this truth is really quite amusing. I know why this has occurred. It is September and the daylight hours are reducing...

So the day walking scientists and zealots are lacking daylight. This condition has been clynically diagnosed as "Seasonally Adjusted Disorder" In short, you are all SAD.

As for "clumping threads" and introducing related facts. In most forums here on Earth, this is called "supporting evidence" or "corroborating evidence' It is very common place in Legal forums and Courts.

Trying to rule it as inadmissable is also S.A.D. The Senior Sires have the Power to delete my response. To do so is as bad as ISIS, the counter arguement is important to ANY true Democracy.

As for Degrading my Honor...it is you that Degrades True Honor...Truth, always Truth. T.G.K.



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Seasonal Affective Disorder, and there is nothing in that short article that says "New Science". EX you are coming across frantic. Take a few breaths, and formulate yourself, have a discussion, try not to preach like your on a soap box. Everything doesn't have to tie into your other hair brained ideals. There is just nothing here that serves to say "Hey We Told You So!" As far as Supernatural phenomena goes. This is technology added research. Really while i was hoping this could be a different exchange from our normal debates to a a hashing over the already sufficient breakthrough of brain to brain communication being substantial (though not as sensational as you would have it be) but no you highjacked the thread to spiral on about your rants, make up your mind are you anti science or pro science? This is not New Science EX. You have been thwarted.



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It just seems that when you have nothing to say you babble the most nonsensical things, and I suspect you fancy yourself being intellectually deeper then us "simpletons". Even if I followed your ideals I you would fail in traction, and turn me, and any person that doesn't like being talked down to. You have reached the point where you aren't even remotely understandable. A sure sign of a person that is grasping for posterity.



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I'd be really careful about stating that Telepathy is 100% real. People will not accept something so blindly, such as the deeply religious, who accept things by "faith." Thinking people demand evidence. And if you can't provide it, you lose credibility. "Erich", Harry" Houdini was famous for exposing fraudulent "mediums' who put on emotionally exceptional "seances." If someone approaches me with that claim of Telepathy being 100% real, then I want proof. I would pose a series of questions, to tests the person. So far, none have stood up to the challenge.



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Mel all the articles aside from this one don't even use telepathy in the title or article this was the one that tickled Exs fancy the most. Note however that telepathy is in ' ' marks.



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Debate with you is like debate with Isis.
It seems you either deliberately or negligently ignore the evidence before you.

If you had taken the time to read the whole thread it is blatantly obvious the postings directly included an entry by the " New Scientist" a leading think tank.

I see no reason to belittle you further, you posted what you did.
Any reasonable person will see your extreme views.

As for the accusation I am a self obsessed maniac. I will let others here decide the truth on that. By the way , using multiple accounts is not a sign of strength its a sign of weakness.

Also, if I were truly the self obsessed maniac you declare, I would have said something like"Look up, and enjoy those Solar Flashes"

What? you thought my Profile and Songs were just coincidence? TGK.



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Just feel free to post the quoted article that says "New science". This is nothing new. No matter how you twist it it is still science and not your precious ESP experts, witches, or "Vamps". So get over yourself, and your veiled journal entry that is incoherent to say the least. As of this post there is no one else posting in this waste of a thread.. why? WHy because it is beyond confusing to begin with, and it is your usual attempt to insult the Government, and make "witty" jabs at your pet conspiracies. Hear that? That's the sound of your forum going down the drain. As I said to bad you wiped your crap all over the topic, for once you had a good article, and something substantial, but nope you had to sink it with your writs.



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Here's the thing Exi, the article you've pointed to is not evidence of actual telepathy. Your claim is on the same illogical plane as the claim that humans can walk on water and as proof, someone tossed a bunch of stones in the lake and a person "walked on water".

For me, I'm not going to reply to any more of your threads, posts, ideas, conspiracy theories etc., and I suggest others ignore them as well as you clearly do not understand the issues you attempt to pontificate over in even the slightest degree. Nothing you have ever provided has turned out to be proof of any of your theories. Being obstinate is not a virtue, nor does it make you right.



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Well, I should probably let this go...but I feel it is important for your personal development and it may help you confront your Deamons.
The truth is you are putting yourself up as an expert about things which you do not fully understand and are beyond your comprehension.
This is not your fault, you are a product of a rigid Education system.
What do I mean by this?
I have recently introduced two forum posts on the latest research and scientific data on brain waves and the relationship between blood, ageing and health.

Both of which you have cuffed off hand.
As for introducing personal views such as "You disrespect government"
Again this is totally untrue, I have merely questioned those subcontracted government components that appear to be playing "Fast and loose with the Law"
I have actually helped the government on numerous occasions, you may recall my Post about the Danger of Ebola in June.

Moreover, by systems of Public campaign I have recently helped procure 50 million from the Gates foundation. I also supplied the Math and statistical threats using Graphs to the Media. (I have a Bio chemistry background)

Yesterday the government agreed Ebola was thee biggest threat to the USA.

Lastly, as for my Posts destroying the Forum? You flatter me.

My 20 posts did all that? I think not. I think it is far more likely your own negativity is to blame.

I know a Sire will say this is "Off Topic" but in a True Democracy I have a right to reply, hence this Post.



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EXI,
Your Delusions of Grandeur are showing again.. might want to tuck those into your pants. So humor us where are the links to all these great caches of revolutionary findings of your? I mean you sure are inflating yourself to be a big player in a world you obviously spent plenty of time fabricating, so lay it out.. break it down.. why haven't you crammed your journal full of this "vital info" where are your member articles? All I have seen posted by you is twaddle, and twittery. You always come across like a bloke with a mouth full of marbles, trying to articulate something that they pulled out of their bum. Lay it all out.. don't delay.. stop hinting at what you know, and deliver, and do so in the proper area next time, Your Journal, or a Member Article. As it stands you make no sense.. As Usual! In your mind I am sure you are all you think you are.. but well here we have people that want filler, not just fluff, funny how on a site with people that have some fringe beliefs they clearly steer clear of you and your threads.. hmmm get a hint?

"But.. But.. I posted about ________ and _________! Really? The Gates foundation.. Man Whatever you smoke.. put that shit down.



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This is simply a provoking thread- and not a "thought" provoking thread. It's drama-inciting, stated to have been placed to "lay a trap" and is only serving for you to go tit for tat. This isn't a place for your personal issues with those that come to the forum. You need to leave your personal issues behind when you come here- if not, argue in your journal or private forum. This thread doesn't even have the feeling of an open forum- you come in feeling like a fly on the wall watching a couple people argue, wondering if you are allowed to talk as well. No thanks.



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