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08:38:35 Nov 17 2004
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I couldn't help myself... I got inspired earlier in another thread.... dam those soul mates!

I know some of this has been posed before, but resurrection is good once in a while.

Do you often feel that life really has no choices, that you are really just along for the ride?

Or are there doors opening for you and you are free enough to step through them, and ultimately alter your path?

Cute little movie, sliding doors... the what if factor....

My thoughts? It's all fate and destiny, we have a few little token gestures thrown in for fun, but they do nothing to alter the finale.....

As mentioned once before I can go on and on about this subject, but the thread lacks the one on one debate with martinis and cigars!




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Well I believe we are free to make our own choices in life..how you end up in life depends on yourself. However, it was my destiny to be who and what I am and nothing can ever change that.

I think destiny is controlled by fate.



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Mory, you always can choose. Your destiny is made by yourself.



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Lorandel, define yourself.... is it current mortal realm, or your soul...

I belive you have already chosen before your soul joins in this mortal realm.

So when I say you, it's your soul, not your shell.



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I agree with Dear Pammy Pam Pam,
Life has choices and you have nothing to do but GRAB and you must wait for the perfect timing..



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I stay between darkness and light (calling it "walking through shadows" for myself). One day I must choose one of the sides, but it will be only my choice.



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11:47:38 Nov 17 2004
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Life is a series of opportunities. As Sarah Connor said: No fate except the one you choose.



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11:53:49 Nov 17 2004
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ohh I love striking a chord....

Don't like the idea you are all ready pre-destined for things huh?

*smiles* too interesting!



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I believe the quote is "Note Fate But What You Make..."
I've seen that movie way too many times...
I like to think that life gives you little hints about what you need to be doing. Nara feels the need to unass Florida all of the sudden...a shitload of hurricanes..two car accidents.. yeah. There's something to that, I think.

I've been receiving little hints for about the past... ooooh I'd say six or seven months... this web site is greatly tied into it. Right now thats the path I intend to take, when monitary situation provides the means. The feeling (like a pulling sensation at my chest) is entirely too strong...

I'll have more on this later as I regroup myself...

~K~



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19:37:35 Nov 17 2004
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Well I totaly believe in fate and destiny..However you are offten shown more than one option in life.Ironically though,The one you choose is the that has already been wrought..So in short weeeeee.. what a fun ride..Meh



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22:52:14 Nov 17 2004
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i myself believe that such thing as free will is an illusion.
let me explain myself...
at any instant, your action is determined by:
1)what u see, hear smell etc...
2)how u feel (so short past)
3)your experience(long past)
so it depends on the past( nothing u can do about it) and the present situation(nothing either).



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23:30:52 Nov 17 2004
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fate i guess



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23:31:04 Nov 17 2004
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I believe that you are given chances
in life to meet your soul mate, but it's up to you what you do with that chance your given. Hope you can make sense of that. lol



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23:41:49 Nov 17 2004
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free will all the way baby, but god knows what we are destined to do. it is a conudrum (sp?).



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This would be a good thread in which to explain my theory of multi-dimensional existence.

It's not much of a stretch to imagine that the 4th dimension, or afterlife, is a plane beyond time as we know it. It would be a non-linear existence. So, when you go there, you are a part of all time. Existing in all time. Which means you are there right now.

I know many of you are thinking, huh?!?

Let's follow this through a linear progression, as this is how most humans think. A baby is born January 1st, 1950. The baby lives and then dies January 1st, 2005. At that point, the soul crosses into the 4th dimension, and is a part of all time. This means, that soul could go to January 1st, 1950 and watch its own birth.. Or to 1971 and watch its 21st birthday party. The point is, if you exist in all time (after this life), then it is possible for you to be looking at yourself right now from the afterlife.

The next step, if you believe in reincarnation, is to understand that the soul exists in the 4th dimension prior to being born into the earth plane. This means, the soul, being a part of all time, see's it's life path prior to birth. The soul chooses its path. This is destiny.

When I was younger, I refused to believe in destiny... Because just as Neo says in the first Matrix, I didn't like the idea of not being in control of my own life. But destiny exists because we are in control. We form our destiny prior to birth. And it has all already happened.



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01:26:04 Nov 18 2004
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I must have pissed myself off then....
*snrk*



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01:39:15 Nov 18 2004
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i dont like the idea that im not in control of my life.. fate can kiss my dick as well destiny... i make my own choices may they be wrong or right they are my own and no one eles not gods, my dna, or the goverments.. Thier MINE



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01:50:27 Nov 18 2004
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my my my! People what amazing reading!

Taymos, yes agreed!

Khayman, you feel it too.

Cancer... oh god yes yes yes! and nwo to comment on your posting... oh god yes yes yes! I agree.

Lex honey... don't fight it >:) lol

Thanks for those who messaged me to argue their point or give me a private opinion

Question to follow on with it.

If you have made up your mind, fate destiny or choice, what makes you think you are right?



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01:53:34 Nov 18 2004
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thats the beauty of it my dear non one knows if there right.. its an enigma.. and i honestly think if we did know it be to much for us to handle



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Janette
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07:47:45 Nov 18 2004
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I agree, Cancer. Very well put.



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I think I would have to agree with the Lexter on that one..**Cookie**



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YAY COOKIE



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15:09:30 Nov 18 2004
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So glad to have sparked a disscussion. I believe in fate, i think, im not sure. Whatever comes will come



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Mordes
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15:15:39 Nov 18 2004
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in a world such as this it would be foolish of us to think that it was either or.....

like if I fall off a cliff I am destined to fall.... my choice is how I decide to deal with the conciquences of what is happening to me.



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15:19:17 Nov 18 2004
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I should think one would deal with it by LANDING.



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19:47:48 Nov 18 2004
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I'm surprised I had not made a post in this one yet.

Personally, I think it is a mixture of each, with a strong basis on instinct-- perhaps set out by past lives, premenitions, etc.

Ah well, back to the books for me.



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Alassiel
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01:06:11 Nov 19 2004
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i think of pandora's box when i think of fate. i think that there is a set path for us but being as we haven't lived it yet it is open to change. i had a fork in the road a few years ago and i could've winded up dead or screwed up on drugs but i chose to make something of myself despite what happened to me. Fate does exsist but it gives us options as to which paths we choose to take and i like to think fate doesn't affect our thoughts and it's our choice to follow the path most walked or walk the path we design for ourselves.



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Alassiel
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here's a question that will bake your noodle cancer. saying that in the afterlife i could have formed the life i'm now living, did i go back to this age and spin my life in this direction so i can say this to you now?



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Obviously so, If you said it....


his answer will be somewhat along those lines.
roflmao
CAUSE I CAME BACK AND LOOKED!!!
aaaaaaaaa-hahahahahahaha!!
=))



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03:36:08 Nov 19 2004
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real choice. nuff said.



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I feel that cancers idea of multiple reality living is along with my beleifs on this one....we have the choice.....but each fork in a road has it's own life.



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Yeah, I agree as well with big-boss-man....
however last night i wasn't in my "rational" state of mind and read my previous post...
It seems as though I was laughing at Cancer's ideas and beliefs.... when in my warped sense of reality I've obviously chosen for myself YEARS later... I was just pickin' on him=)
*smooch*



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::applauds:: Wow Cancer I have actually never thought about it like that. ( looks around and waves at myself watching myself) The things you learn on a day to day bases.



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But really i believe that you choose the life you will lead before you are even born. So if there's something wrong in your life don't blame it on a god you chose the life no one else did.



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Mordes
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ok I guess I should rephase, one is destined to live and to die what one does in the interm is up to them...

the same with the fall....

one falls and what one does till one lands is up to them (I vote for screaming obscenities)



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I'll see your obscenities... and raise ya a Roadrunner sign...

YIPES!!



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Emaerald
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17:18:06 Nov 19 2004
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Hmm, I do like your theory and reasoning Cancer and that would pretty much fit in with my Celtic beliefs of the soul and life.
Circle of Life ... yea i like this 4th dimension theory a lotta :)



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