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I've been visited by what I believe to be psy vamps since I was very small, and I'm quite convinced there are such beings that exist solely on the astral plane. Their ability to manipulate the human psyche is quite amazing. I have a few questions, so here they are.

1. Do living psy vamps aspire to become these astral creatures?

2. How is it possible to paralyze someones physical body and manipulate their mental processes and senses?

3. They preyed only on me and none of my friends or family. What were they after from me that no one else could provide?

You describe what sleep pararalisis is, it happens when your mind wakes up
Before your body, does, your mind is secure, and nobody ( or any creature) has any ability to affect your mind, in any way. Metaphysical based concepts only exist in imagination, to assure sound sleep accept that you are likely to grow out of such night terrors. If they persist then you may consider clinical
consultation. What is the source that is telling you these paranoid inciting things, did you have mean older relatives?

I have a few questions in response to your questions, as well as a few possible answers.

"1. Do living psy vamps aspire to become these astral creatures ?."

It's more important to first ask if these astral creatures can exist in the first place. Why are you the only one who is being "attacked?" Nevermind worrying about some supposed connection between living psy vampires (which probably don't exist either) and these "astral vampires."

"2. How is it possible to paralise someones physical body and manipulate their mental processes and senses ?."

As dabbler said, this sounds a lot like sleep paralysis. It's a phenomenon that occurs when the mind wakes up before the body does. Manipulation of the mental processes is not something that could occur on some other plane, as the mind works by electrical impulses on this plane, the only "plane of existence" that has ever been confirmed to exist.

"3. They prayed only on me and none of my friends or family what were they after from me that no one else could provide ?."

As I said in reply to your first question, doesn't it seem suspicious that you're the only one who thinks they're being attacked? Couldn't this all just be a product of an overactive imagination? And no, just refusing to believe so does not make your position any more valid. What evidence do you have to demonstrate that this is really happening, and you're not terrorizing yourself over something rather trivial?

Okay, for a start, I have put a load of my experiences in my journal, if you would like to read them. It may help if you understood from my point of view. I'm quite a grounded person and can't understand why this happens . I know about sleep paralysis, night terrors, and hag attack. What I'm offering is my own views on things as I believe them . I'd value all perspectives on this . love, Leax.

Ok, I can see that it's not going to be sufficient to leave this as it is. I wanted others opinions, but I'm running the risk of looking insane , so I see I'm going to have to fight my corner.

La6muerte66, in response to, "Mental processes is not something that could occur on some other plane as the mind works by electrical impulses on this plane , the only " plane of existence " that has ever been confirmed to exist. "

Could it not be considered that it is in fact the act of thinking itself that causes these electrical impulses .

As for the existence of other planes,"confirmed to exist "is relying on science. Science is limited, and fallable, theories hold up only until something better comes along. I think it was you who made this point in a previous post. You are right in saying it's the only confirmed plane of existence but consider all the religions of the world, nearly all have an after life or a belief that the soul lives on. They cant all be wrong, there is ample evidence about it if you're willing to believe on faith.

Faith is belief without evidence, you offer personal interpretation if dreams, as something more sensational. Perhaps your repressed imagination is acting up, you want others to share analogies with you, either to soothe your worries, or to add to your pitch.

Thank you for pointing out more weaknesses in my constitution , Your view is valued .

Your fear is self created, which means that you are expecting a confirmation of your notional source for that fear. Are you not concerned that you have night terrors, is that not something tangible? Does it have to be some supernatural/ metaphysical phenomena "attacking you", is it insight for bad dreams you are seeking? There are ways to exercise your dreams, but you must acknowledge that they ate indeed just dreams, and that those who would lead you, of support your irrational fear of dreams/ night terrors are a
Negative factor in recovering healthy dreams.

Moonbubble > can you give us more detail ? What form these attacks take and what happens ?

I have read that you have written about this in your journal but I think it would help the thread if you gave us a brief outline here.

If psy vamp is high being with grown in arts, can manipulate on each plane from distant and you can not know without its wishes that its manipulating yor energies and psych. Easiest way to them is feeding on energy via psy sitting on opposite side wit back to your side ad you will neven know tht vampire is deraining your psychic energy and you immediately will need bed rest coz you feel your limbs and neck are powerless and tired and even breathe too is tired...

This is due to the fed on you. And their fevourite game is intruding your dreams and checking you by intercepting your wishes becoming vision to pull you to their vision in astral planes...

Sinora asked "Can you give us more detail ? What form do these attacks take and what happens ?

I,am going to give a brief description of a typical attack . They generally happen at night or early morning during a lucid stage of sleep . A presence can be felt along with an intence feeling of terror . Your mind is absolutely awake and aware of the situation but your physical body is paralyzed , screaming shouting , trying to make anyone else awear of what is happening is impossible , Trying to get up or wake up is also very difficult . Sometimes strange visions and sounds accompany these visits . They seem to have the ability to manipulate the mind , an area I,am particuiarly interested in discussing . Finally they penetrate various parts of your body or sit on your chest , giving a feeling of emence weight . The expirences don,t last long , and when they have gone the room seems to vibrate with enegy .

These expirences are commonly called the " Hag attack "in Newfoundland canada , have also become known as psychic vampire attacks . the early 1970,s , the hag attack caught the interest of David J. Hufford , a faculty member of the folklore Department at the Memorial University of newfoundland . His interest resulted project that would occupy a good portion of the folklorist,s time for the next decade . The enormous amount of information collected was published in Hufford,s ground-breaking book " The terror that comes in the night , which carried the entirely accurate subtitle , An experience-centered study of supernatural assault traditions . Please see for further reading . Along with the book Hufford conducted a detailed survey, which was carefull not to lead the participants . Asking instead about various symptoms of the hag amongst other unrelated questions . An amasing 23 percent of people reported experiencing symptoms of the hag attack . Judging by some of the messages i,ve received off people not wanting to post their responses publicly this is a very real phenomenon that happens to a lot of people .

Night terrors, as mundane and unphenomenal as it is it us nothing but SP, perhaps you have nagging issues of concsious that you are repressing ( revering to the " mind manipulation", or you are attempting to transfer responibility of you actions to some "third party entities influence" over you.

You cling to that which you fear is real, are you seeking to invoke others to believe their night terrors are something more .. " super natural"?

Your description still sounds exactly like Sleep Paralysis. (hint: Click the link)

The "Hag attacks" were also determined almost certainly to be sleep paralysis. It happens when the mind wakes up, usually in the midst of REM sleep, and the body is still paralyzed in the dream state. Along with the paralysis and difficulty breathing (all of the body's muscles are either totally paralyzed or very deeply relaxed), hallucinations are also common. This may account for your supposed lack of control over your mind during the "attacks."

Irregular sleep schedules, sleep deprivation, and narcolepsy have been linked to sleep paralysis, and you say the episodes often follow a lucid dream state?

"Some reports read that various factors increase the likelihood of both paralysis and hallucinations. These include:[14]

* Sleeping in a face upwards or supine position
* Irregular sleeping schedules; naps, sleeping in, sleep deprivation
* Increased stress
* Sudden environmental/lifestyle changes
* A lucid dream that immediately precedes the episode."

What purpose does insisting that what you experienced SP is something other then SP? Is it not solving the " mystery", and dispelling what others have falsely informed you about. It is a sick joke to propagate the "crushing Geist" changing the nickname to "astral Vampires" is obviously geared by a person that knows your hobby interest, they ate fu***ng with your irrational fears, by misintepreting a common medical occurence.

Your Questions....

1. Do living psy vamps aspire to become these astral creatures?

2. How is it possible to paralyze someones physical body and manipulate their mental processes and senses?

3. They preyed only on me and none of my friends or family. What were they after from me that no one else could provide?

My Answers....

1. Your current state of mind is rejecting them, all they seek is your love... but your fear has made them into monsters. Give into them, hold out your hand to them, and invite them to be next to you, and their rage will go away. You will not be like the things you see, you will become something more.

2. If you are the one that is paralized. This happenes usually before and after leaving the body as energy fields tend to have magnetic properties and being too close to your body will pull you in, and being far enough away from your body will push you away. If you mean paralizing another, this can be easily done by condensing and materializing pure matter in your world that is used to attack someone so that all energy is drained out of them while their whole body goes numb and their breathing stops. Your mental process and senses are not being manipulated, they are correct.

3. You called them. They hear your every thought. They watch your every move. Cause you made a connection with them in your dreams. They have information to share with you, and they refuse to leave till you listen.

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Ok i,am no great intellectual , i feel you two are going to pummel me into the floor where that area concerned . Please belive me when i say , i have researched sleep paralysis , night terrors , the hag attack and related occurrences . I,ve looked into the science of it , and for a long time struggled with what was happening to me . I considered that it could be my conscious mind awaking before my body such as in sleep paralysis , but that did not explane it thoroughly enough for me . I considered that it could be the subconscious part of my brain influencing the waking ( conscious ) part of my brain . I looked into the left and right hemispheres and there functions . I have looked logically into it , but none of these theorys explane the effects thoroughly enough , Theres so much about the experience that in my opinion science does not explane . Thats not to say that science isn,t right , it may well be , and in that case i,am probably well over due a visit to the nut house . For the last 28 years these things have happend to me on regular basis , and i,ve found that i,am not the only one .
The thing that dragged me away from the science , was the inescapable feeling that theres someone there , and the inability to get up or controll my physical functions . Not with all my conscious effort could i move , with all my will i,d want to get up and couldn,t. Now this could be easily be accounted to sleep paralysis . The presence i connot explane by science , it may be i,am projecting my fear , but even without fear the presence is still there . I can not deny my instincts on this , I belive with all my soul that theres something there . I don,t belive my mind can produce the effect of sleep paralysis , coupled with the terror , the feeling of a presence , penertration , and visions and sounds collectively at the same without outside influence. But my views on this are my own . The experience is more metaphysical in my view , and created by an entity outside of myself . Even the name hag attack suggests an out side entity and that was created way before my delusional self walked the earth . Science aside for a moment , what i was really looking for with these questions was a debate as to the nature of these attacks , from others that have had similar experiences . I firmly belive theres something in all this that the boundrys of science cannot explane as yet . If you think i need help because of this belife thats fine , I don,t want to cover ground i,ve been over , I,am here for open minds that are not constricted by the limited nature of the theorys on offer , Theres more to this than science . I want to delve into the subtle effects this phunomenon has on the psyche , to come at it from a different angle , out side the box of science .

Thanks to everyone that posted , I,ve found what i was looking for , Love leax

I'll tackle this statement first:

"The presence i connot explane by science , it may be i,am projecting my fear , but even without fear the presence is still there . I can not deny my instincts on this , I belive with all my soul that theres something there . I don,t belive my mind can produce the effect of sleep paralysis , coupled with the terror , the feeling of a presence , penertration , and visions and sounds collectively at the same without outside influence."

You seem to be ignoring the hallucination aspect of SP. When you wake up, you're still in REM sleep, and are therefore still dreaming. When you wake up from an especially vivid dream, you don't consider any part of it real, do you? If you've ever met strange people in dreams, you didn't simply assume that they were real, did you?

What you're still doing is arguing from personal credulity. It is known as a logical fallacy. Your experience (as you describe it) has been entirely and sufficiently explained by science, and has been for quite some time now. The only thing preventing you from accepting it (and more importantly, getting TREATMENT) is your personal refusal.

There are a great deal of people who refuse to accept evolution because it hasn't been explained to their satisfaction, but every time it gets explained, they actively refuse to accept the information. You're being willingly ignorant to the scientific, tested, and treated condition of Sleep Paralysis, to your own detriment, because you want to persist in this fantasy. I implore you, see a doctor and ask his professional opinion and GET TREATMENT for SP.

Their easiest way of intruding you is at the time of sleep so that they can read your complete mind. this they do wit their new friends and if they find them careless of the entities, they play with them a lot by intercepting their dreams and wishes in the sleep they obstacles successfully to you to create your own plane or on astral they can treat you puppet of real places at tehir mastery. I been such puppet bt they did respect me an love me that did not harm me intercepting everything...

You speak if dreams, am I correct Venum?

Can only talk from my own experience. Thanks for sharing yours.Yes, I do aspire to work on an astral plane , if you would like to know how to defend yourself against a psy vampire, check out my pro, it,s so easy you can do it in your sleep. I was visited once and met by two vampires as lucid as I am now. As someone pointed out earlier what they want is your hand, and to tell you something you need to know, but might not remember. they are not there to harm you but to help you. I was placed on a shelf on a high wall and the door was locked on the inside( no explanation).
Hope this is of some help, embrace your fears and remember no harm can come to you on this plane.

This is all just dreams, sensationalized through intepretation.

Ok i tell you what happen to me on this context.. i was going to bed i closed the windows shut and there was nothing on the outside of the window wood shutters as i recalled i turn off the light and went to sleep.. while i was awaken by red eyes on me and it was flying over me and i was very terrified at first i thougt it was my imagination but it keep penetrating me immensely so guess what happen i turn on the light and walk out the room called my mother too check out my surrounding and explained what took place then later she look towards the window guess what was on the outside a damn bit bat with it wings extended wide open... so my mother open the shutters so it could fly away..but the odd thing that took place was that when i closed the shutter in the first place there were no bats another thing we have screens on the window and the bats was inside the room how was that possible.... it could of been a psy vamp attack......

Interesting topic.

Astral entities come in an amazing variety, so it stands to reason that there might also be astral vampires/ psy vampires.

1. I don't know many people who don't aspire to perpetuate as an entity after this physical life is over. Whether we reincarnate or become something more as a spirit is up for debate as always. I don't think I want to become an astral vampire, per se. There are more interesting things to do on the astral level than just suck the life out of others traveling the plane with you.

2. Is it possible to totally immobilize another person? In waking life, all beings have a natural shield to keep out the baddies, so to speak. I haven't met someone who can totally swarm the consciousness of another person and render them immobile. Yet.

I think it's possible to sway others in your direction, and it's possible to take energy from others. In this fashion, one can become akin to a psychic vampire. Again, the difference lies in the need, not necessarily the want.

People tend to steer clear of me in public, but that's really because I exude the attitude of "stay away". I wouldn't quite call it people "sensing a vampire nearby". Anyone can project emotions and impressions on those around them. It's just that few people do so consciously.

There are a lot of reasons that someone might construe certain symptoms as a vampiric attack on the astral level. The question is why such an entity would be after you and what do you have that this entity would bother attacking at all

Yes I spoke of dream coz that is only the time we clearly knows the penetration of other spirit. in day time too many a time i felt any feminine soul penetrated me and i felt clearly myself duel as i am having breast too and feminine tede thingies too but not physically but in feeling just after felt the penetration. but true visibility comes in dream and if you are on dream planes or on astral planes and some one like to relax in your body, you will never know this. and that kin can be anything even animal spirit too. but when your conscious and spirit comes n after obe it vanish from your body. but if it wish forcefully in rarecase, you feel your self duel entity.