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To the ancient Eqyptians (3100 - 1000 B.C.E), there was little distinction between religion and magic. If there was any difference at all, it was perhaps in the immediacy of magical as opposed to religious practices. In religion, a worshiper petitioned a deity through an intermediary or priest, while a magician invoked the deity directly. But, frequently, priests and magicians were one and the same.

According to the ancient historian Herodotus, the Eqyptians were "Religious to excess, beyound any other nation in the world" Eqyptian religion was a complex, beautiful, and often misunderstood mixture of abstract monotheism and concrete polytheism. According to some Eqyptologists, the inhabitants of the land of Khem believed in the concept of a creatore deity who was eternal, omnipotent , self-existent, and incomprehensible to its human worshipers.




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Good Info.



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yes it is a complex scociety, ive read some of the egyption book of the dead and its alot of info to memerize but still its very usefull indeed



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wow sounds like a nice subject to have a discusion about ( spelled worng )



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interesting information



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interresting :)



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I have learned and categorized about 77 Egyptian gods and goddesses... I know alot of the Egyptian religion aswell...



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always good to know.



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thanx fro the really cool info



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awesome information, I am myself an egypt-maniac, went there last year, have ankh's everywhere and to hear that is amazing

thanks a load :)



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I took one or two courses in college about ...Western Civilization and others
I always found Egyptians interesting



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I love obscure facts and other odd but interesting topics.



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A very interesting read. Thank you for sharing.



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A very interesting read. not many know the things u posted but good to see all are will to learn and took time to read it so i say VERY INTERESTING :)



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thanks for this interesting read, I myself am very interested in Egyptian Religion & magick, been practicing for a while & been reading the Book of the Dead for a while now.. taking it up slowly so I can understand all I need...



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Really nice info. I am actually studying on that subject at home right now.



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I absorb so much knowledge on this site...I love it here....my brain feels all wrinkly :)



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Welll I'm adding more to the post here in a minute so hope you all are ready for more.



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This Unknowable divinity was sometimes referred to by the word neter, the suggested meaning of which includes ideas of "god," "divine," "strength," and "renewal." The polytheism of Eqypt manifested itself in the vast number of divine, celestial, terrestrial, local, and lesser deities. These deities were considered as the various aspects, attributes, or extensions of the neter, manifesting in forms that could be visualized and comprehended by the human mind, loved by the human heart, and worshiped by a deeply religious people.

The Egyptians lived before the birth of philosophy as an independent way of thinking. They used their myths to convey their insights into the workings of nature and the ultimately indescribable realities of the soul... Egyptian gods are nearer the stark archetypes of the unconscious mind than Greek ones and, in a sense, they are more intellectual too, for they are expressing ideas.

(more to come tomorrow)



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and I look forward to it...



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interesting as always.....



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i think there was something behind those subjects but im still learning to give an idea on what i feel about it



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great information. egyptain religion (back in the good old day) would be a great religion to have now. Because there is a God for everyone. My step dad is egyptain and I go to egypt offen to visit family members and I always come home with a little more information than when I arrived. I love egypt old and new.



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wow thats awsome i never knew that thanx for posting it



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I'd like to learn somee crafts. let me know if somebody knows one



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I love the story of the magic flute, and its Freemason/Egyptian theology. I love Nefertiti even with her bung eye, and Hitler and I agree that Nefertiti is the ideal of arian beauty. I am glad you have started this thread, because it is hard to dismiss Egyptian magic and religion as either primitive or unsophisticated, when our own western civilization cannot better their art or their stories, and certainly will not last the thousand years that Egyptian civilization lasted.

Keep the updates coming.



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Does anyone think that there were really aliens that contributed to the rise of egyptian society?



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intriguing. I love the Egyptian mythos.



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I love reading about the ancient egyptian gods, my favourites are Bast, Anubis and Set. I loved reading about Sets betrayal to his brother Osiris, because if you follow the story closely, Nephthys gave birth to anubis by laying with Osiris, which sparked Set's jealousy.



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nice to now



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You would be surprised as to how many of the Egyptian Myths and Legends were based on actual events. Specially stories concerning their major gods, and godesses spanning from the old kingdom to the middle kingdom.



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interesting info! Personally I'm not much into egyptian religion or magick... just into the fascinating culture... (that's why I had an eye of horus henna done on my hip... which has now become permanent!... check out my profile pics) But if I find any good info about the subject in the library I'll let you know.



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im starting to read on to this Religion... and im am likeing it very well i have always Eqyptian Religion ever seen i had a dream about it. it was wounderful. but anywho i donno what else
...BLAH...



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The Egyptians recognized the validity of several diverse explanations of natural phenomena and a cornucopia of deities, myths, and legends, which to modern thinking often seems confusing and contradictory. These were not thought of as opposing theologies but rather as alternative expressions of reality, each emphasizing a particular aspect of a force of nature.

Three principles can be identified in Egyptian religion: (1) the common belief in a solar monotheism in the form of a Creator or "High God" whose power was especially symbolized by the life-giving rays of the sun; (2) a belief in the regenerative power of nature, which was symbolized in the life-giving waters of the river Nile and expressed in polytheistic worship of numerous fertile gods and goddesses as well as sacred animals; (3) the recognition of a deity who is human yet also divine, whose life in both the physical world and the spiritual world beyond death mirrors that of the perfected human life.

The belief in Osiris as a god/man was well established early in Egyptian history. He was a deity unlike all others in that he was an accessible god whom people could strongly empathize with - they could identify with him as one of them, although he was part divine. They believed that Osiris had walked the Earth, and ate and drank as they did. And, like humans, Osiris suffered and died - but was brought back to life with the aid of the other gods. Thus did he become the beloved god of resurrection and eternal life, for he set an example that the rest of humanity could follow. What the gods did for Osiris, the Egyptians reasoned, they might be persuaded to do for ordinary mortals. Many religious and magical ceremonies were designed to insure that after death the deceased would, like Osiris, rise again and inherit life everlasting.

The Egyptians were also among the first to develop the concept of the Human soul, and much of their religion was dedicated to the welfare of the deceased in the afterlife. A human being was seen to have several components parts, including the Khat (physical Body), the Ka (astral body), the Ba (Soul), the Khu (Spirit), the Sekhem (Vital Life Force), the Khabit (Shadow), and the Ren (Name). The Ba or soul was considered the seat of life in a human being. The word Ba implies noble, sublime, or mighty. After death the soul was free to leave the tomb and ascend to heaven. However, it was thought that the spirit and the astral body could be imprisoned in the tomb, so magical formulae were used to keep this from occuring.

(More to come in six days, sorry have to leave on a trip will be back as soon as I can)



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Very Good research sin. And you are absolutly correct in your theories based upon the research you have done. I also have a vast profound interest and fascination with reguard to egyptian magick, and histories. Keep it up hun!



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well there god lost the big fight lol against a mer man moses llol



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The egyptian gods were long gone in egypt when Moses was showing off his little staff, and his parlor tricks.



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Egyptology is amazing! Thanks for the info.



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Great information. You have gave me something to look into. I'll probably read mre about this in time when I find it. I'm interested in learning more.



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there are so many myths & legends for the egyptians-yet they are all interesting-not sure about the alien thing though



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This is one of the main things about ancientreliigons that I appreciate, and that is the place of the self... magic is a part fo religion, and I believe that that in many sences comes from the self.

I think those who find happinness in religion should also find happinness in their own version of taking responsibility over their lives.

Its not exactly on topic, but I just thought I would say :-)



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hmmm...Egypt was a grand empire that could be anything it wanted to be...i think that religion played a big part in their lives because the gods and goddesses are magick are they not?



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my passion is egypt, ive always wanted to walk over the lone desert sands, to seek all its mysteries.



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INTERESTING!!..yay for learning on the weekend



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You have given us a great bit of information here scionofrequiem. I do have one question for you though... do you read hieroglyphics?

I am trying to study them but its a bit hard. I think I just learn some things better with a teacher and I cant seem to find one... any input?



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I absolutely love ancient Egyptian culture, and their religion and customs are fascinating. The fine line that they have between magic and religion is beautiful in a way that many others are lacking in this day and age.



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i wish i lived in egypt it would be very interesting there.



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Thank you for the interesting information. I will be sure to do some more research on it!



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The book The 12th Planet by Zecharia Stitchin has some great info on ancient Egypt and Sumeria's Gods and religion. Of course the main focus is on the possibilites of mankind evolving from aliens



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egyptian religion and magick are very strong..if you dont specify what it is you want, the outcome is usually the very worst case situation, or the very best...its all based on being positive about what it is you want and what it is your willing to give back.



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I do not read Hyroglyphis, but all this information is from one of the books I have been reading. I plan on, once I'm done with this thread, start on some other areas of Religion and magic.

- Sin (VII)



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There are two kinds of magicians in Egypt. These included the trained priest-magicians of the temples and the "lay" magicinians who were independent of any institution. The Majority of them, however, were of the priest class. There were hundreds of temples dedicated to various deities, and their attendant priests had several different functions. Some were in charge of caring for the statue of the god (by providing food, clothing, ect.). Purification was also an essential practice - the priests bathed four times daily, shaved their heads, and only wore certian types of clothing.

The high priest was known as the sem-priest or "First Prophet of the God." Under him was an entire staff of priests known as hrologers, whose duty was to accurately determine the hours of the day and night. This was crucial function, because various rites had to begin at specific times. The priests took note of the position of the sun and the stars in order to pinpoint when the rituals should commence. There was also astrologer-priests who were the caretakers of a horoscople calendar that explained how humans beings should behave on given days.

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What a fascinating topic. I have really enjoyed reading this info and look forward to more.



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I think that posts like these are great for the information it gives to the unknowing individual.... also for provoking a hunger to learn more about the subject.. great job!



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very interesting



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Well tonight is the night I post the last bit of the Egyptian stuff and move on to some more, interesting subjects.



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However, the priest-magicians were not from any of the above groups. They were to be found in a part of the temple known as the House of Life, which contained the temple library. The average layman would go to the House of Life if he had a problem and needed a magical spell or amulet. The priests would dispense magical charms for protection, interpret dreams, provide an incantation to cure illness, ect. The priest-magicians guarded their secret books carefully, and they were looked upon as very powerful and important individuals.

One aspect of Egyptian magic that would remain essential to the Hermetic Tradition was the importance given to divine names and words of power. As shown in the story of Isis gaining mastery over Ra, the Egyptians believed that knowing the secret name of a deity conferred great power to the magician who knew it. (This would later manifest in the Greco-Egyptian "Barbarous Names" of Magic)

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i just luv egyptin culture...10x4the info.



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Hmm. interesting to think about.

I'm going to have to find more information on this-- a tad bit rusting on my Egyptian.



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Sir you are a very knowledgable intelligent and honorable man...



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I have reason to believe that when the priest or priestess is working with the devine, it would have to be based on s mediumship level so that the worshiper is seated back in a void while the God or Goddess is placed in that host, to be worshiped and be able to comune with the ppl. grant knowledge, health, happiness.

mind you that is only one point of view i have but it like this one the most. >:D



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I think the Egyptian's and their culture are one of the most interesting. There aren't many. But the top one is the Greeks.



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egyptian, greek and celtic are the most interesting in my opinion
the others i have not had too much of a chance to learn about



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First and foremost thanks you scion for posting this thread. The egyptian religion is very interesting to say the least. I read alot into the religion and its magical side. From what I read and studied dealed with contacting the deites for guidance and support. Along with placing curses for burials and what not. I think a common name it goes by now is kinetic energy but I am not sure. One thing thing I found pretty interesting is egypts representation of hell. I have some info that I will share aswell soon as I can type it up.



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The egyptians had a fascinating society...and I thank you for posting all the wonderful info. I have learned a lot more that I didnt know



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My dear Mentor, as usual, you have made a very informative thread.. *curties* I once read an article about Egyptians "offering" blood to their Gods.. could this have been the real start of vampirism out in the open?



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FoLlOw ThE wHiTe RaBbIt.....



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blacksoulangel
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thanks..for the history:P



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good info



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good info and interesting read



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this is my first time in the forum and I have to say, I couldn't have picked a better text thread to read than this one. I have always loved ancient history, espcially Egyptian, Greek, Roman, Mezo American, and Celtic. I have never felt more comfortable, surrounded by folks that feel the same way I do about this stuff. thanks for the information, I'm sure it was a labor of love to post all that interesting data. thanks for sharing with the rest of us.



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thank you for posting this info. I myself have never really thought much about this and most likely wouldve been too damn lazy to research it myself :) this has been a magnificently informative thread and it is very nice to have something more to read than "where are u from?" threads. Once again, thank you :)



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