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DJJarak
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Almost every civilization speaks of powerful beings of some kind who either watched over mortals, conquered us, or used us like pawns in their quests to battle their own kind. If they did exist, what were they? Some believe them to be Nephilim, some believe they were aliens, and others believe they were humans with evolved abilities much like the mutants of Marvel or the Meta-humans of DC. Please, share your opinion.




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Just regular people pretending to be ethereal beings. Not uncommon thing to happen in any day and age.



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I don't think you can really give an answer.
You can tell that somthing 'must be' if you dont even know the real answer.
Umm...you know?
Ok,
If i was to say..'what do aliens really look like and how do they really live?'
no one can give an answer cause there is no real good honest to the gods proof.

People wish there was a higher being purpose and tell everyone that 'this' is the real god..creation of all things.
Because no one likes to NOT know an answer to somthing.

how do you really know..unless you die,get proof then come back with it.?



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Every culture has some form of religion and beliefs of how the world came to be. Well truth is we will never know because the bible is completely wrong. It was written by man and what is past down from generation to generation and rewritten it over and over again

Greek mythology is the easiest to explain it has entities for everything.
Christianity and catholicism have two, God and the devil with their own little minions. But just think if the sons of god could mate with the daughters of man couldnt the sons of Lucifer mate with them to?



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The only thing I find unbelievable is a significance in how many threads are opened up on almost the exact same thing. Why not just add to the other threads to keep them going?

I would peruse both the Niphilim thread as well as ~Doru's~ Planet X/Nibiru thread for more information as well as theoretical answers and continue the discussion and or debate from there. In one of those threads; I will not say which one since it does invoke actually research, I do allude to the specifics of being a sort of pawn as in testing subject, but I am sure the author of this thread read that post and decided to take the initiate in adding in his own words, a differant scenerio surrounding the same subject.

*Chuckles* Yes, we are all pawns... of the government mayhaps.

Carry on.



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We do know that in ancient times and some not so long ago that cultures had the habit of elevating their Kings and Queens to the status of Gods and Goddesses. I would suspect as each culture embraced whatever person was being worshipped the beliefs and actual ceremonies and such changed slightly. Numerous deities were known by various names because the languages were different. Astarte-Inanna-Ishtar-Isis, etc etc. I have always felt that at one time all of these beings were real people who eventually died and became immortalized.



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You are quite correct in that assumption ~Azuredark~. In another thread much like this one, I pointed out the fact that the ancient Egyptians used king making ceremonies to manipulating their people into believing that their pharoahs were in fact gods. This was due to a respect barrier issue, the pharoahs wanted their peoples absolute loyalty and what better way then making their people believe that they were actually being transformed by ritual into living gods?

Legends make men as well as women what they are to this day. From Isis, who was a living, breathing individual to "Jesus" himself, who is now proclaimed to be a "son of god, god" to the Neo-Christians. I say Neo for the fact that the original Christians were not that idealistic. Correct me if I am wrong in that assumption.

Now, if we were to discuss extra-terrestial as well as inter-terrestial being, those in space "Extra, and those underground "inter." Than this would just be another area of speculative research in transitioning from one set of "gods" to another. Ancient or not, gods are those that are believed in as well as worshipped. Belief being from word of mouth and memoried through objects such as NASA shuttles and books, worship being from actually church congregation, cult ritual as well as proper communications in the right atmosphere where seclusion is beneficial for prayer or whathaveyou.



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My question is why does it really matter, will we ever really find out the truth and if we did find out the real truth what would we do with it. Eventually people would flip and ciaos would erupt in the world.



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Anu the equivalent of Creator send his genius kids Enki and Elil to create what we are, now in his magnificent genius design of how this would work he designed the system as a cycle of rebirth we each experience this was because when they had their triAl and error of the designing they knew if they give humans knowledge of everything in everytime the system would collapse in no time, so he engeniered it so at the very end and beggining of cycles every root race would be getting many knowledge of the universe as well as specie, that way the civilizaions will begin with all the knowledge and love and harmony until it passes again to degrading by time, so the history of predeluvian times are not here for the takg physically, you could only acquire everything by new discovery every second we are in this physical plan, until this one ends and the awakening groups survive to forge a new golden age and the sixth root race to come. All n al we are recycled from various lifetime until we acquire the autonomy and independence to be part of the universe in a higher form of conciousness, this is the iron age of our race of Aryans, and will soon conclude, although not on 2012 that is offseted.



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Well, either, illusion, dellusion, tools for the power hungry or attempts to understand the spiritual self using the comprehension of the age, any or all at any time I think.



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If you read any of H.P. Lovecraft or Alister Crowley's writing's they talk about gods older that were than the God of Christianities God. That there was a war between the Cathulian gods and the angels of Christianity. Then you had the casting out of the first third of the angle at the time of the fall of Lucifer. Then later during the time of Enoch and his children the fall of the Fallen Ones or Fallen Angel that procreated with Humans. Thus bringing us to the time of the Grecian Gods of Olympus Myths.

So it seem that each age has it's own versions of God and religion, so I think it 's for the believer to decide in the end.



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My bet would be on the Nephilim. But i guess you can never really tell. The beings may have been metaphors? I dont think there is any evidence any of them existed, thats not to say they didnt.



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Do we really have any proof that satan or god exists? Do we really have proof of anything other then the fact our heart beats and we breath in and out?



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As to Wiccan's comment, the book of Enoch which was left out of the bible due to the direct examples and direct contact and explanations of the Nephilium or Fallen Ones. There is a book called Fallen Angels it goes into depth on the subject.



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As far as the Cthulhu mythos, H.P. Lovecraft designed the Gods within its pages and thus the term designed IE created. The Gods within that mythos do not exist. They are a fictitious representation of the ancient Egyptian Gods before the pharoahs actually existed.

This I think is what ~DJJarak~ was alluding to. Correct me if I am wrong.



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I will say that most of ancient gods were extra ordinary people who have done extra ordinary things



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Even the Cherokee have something to explain what they don't understand.

People make up explainations for things they don't understand.




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Yet alot of the depictions from these civizalations or tribes the accounts of these individuals are identical in appearance or abilities. kind of strange if we must ponder that each did not know the others existed.



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Throughout human history they have created beings and creatures to try and explain how and why things happened the way they did.

They are MADE UP.



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How do we know what is made up and real we dont know they could have been aliens but how to describe a man who can handle fire?????? Why not call him a god. No ordinary man can do that



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Aliens do not exist either...and man can't handle fire unless it is a lighter or a torch.

You can have your beliefs as I can have mine....and I do not believe in either.



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Its cool dude everyone believes in something I dont judge I only get pissed when people claim to be something when they are not



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I think that's is the core issue of this age everybody intiate unnecesary reactionary on unreasonable circumstances without reaching into an safe agreement of discern, when the answer of truth will not conclude as such, believe it or not what everybody has to say connects in a unconcious state for every individual rate experience even false things rings a message that can program someone in a path that each will by free will choose. Their is realy no reason to correct others when you only know what have you acquired by influences.



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Zeus called a council of the twelve highest Gods, including himself. A foreign power unknown to the Pantheon was approaching their world, and they had to fight it somehow. They could not do direct battle because the enemy was not doing direct battle. The enemy sent twelve super-enhanced humans, each the opposite of the twelve major Gods that Zeus now had before him.

A plan of action was decided on, and each of the Gods gave some of their powers to a mortal on the plain below. Only when the twelve had united, could they destroy the enemy. And they could only destroy their opposite. It was a big game they were playing, with cosmic consequences. Were the mortals up to it?

To those who participate -- You must write in the third person. When you accept your invitation, tell me what God or Goddess's powers you want. I'll take whoever's left. There will be six males and six females. There are seven Gods and five Goddesses. Gender of deity does not necessarily have to be the same as the mortal. For instance, Zeus's chosen mortal could be female, or Aphrodite's male.

In your first addition, you will do a short bio-block (nothing too fancy) AND write the God/Goddess coming to them and telling them what their task is. After that they should begin to find one another, and after that start on the enemy.

The enemy soldiers will be played by you. They are the opposite of whichever character you make, which means gender too. Their powers are the equal and opposite. When it comes time, the battle will be written by you.

As for the powers of the Gods, I'll give you the general area. Go crazy with your imagination Wink




Now, here are the Gods!

Zeus: Captain of the Gods.(Male mortal)
Poseidon: God of the Sea.(Male mortal)
Hera: Queen of the Gods/Goddess of Marriage.(Female mortal)
Demeter: Goddess of the Harvest. (Female mortal)
Ares: God of War. (Male mortal)
Athena: Goddess of Education/Science/Virginity. (Female mortal)
Apollo: God of the Sun. (Male mortal)
Artemis: Goddess of the Hunt/the Moon. (Female mortal)
Aphrodite: Goddess of Love/Beauty. (Male mortal)
Hermes: God of Commerce/Speed. (Female mortal)
Hephastesus: God of the Forge.(Female mortal)
Hades: God of the Underworld. (Female mortal)



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Very good you know your Greek Mythology Im proud to see that someone other then me studies this



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~Crimsontears~, many of us study the Greek mythology child. This is not uncommon.

As far as you being pissed at those of whom are not what they claim to be, this was quite the ignorant statement to say the least. Why worry about such a trifle issue to begin with? Are you that wrapped up in O.P.P. that you have yet to take a good look at yourself and understand your own viewpoints that may lead to a bit of humility?

You are only 20 years of age, so taking this into consideration I do understand your thought process as well as where you are coming from, but it is still no excuse for lack of consideration for the opinions of others.

You do seem quite angery, if I do say so myself. Try a bit of temperance. It may help in the long run.



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Oh sweetie please People around here dont take time to study up on such things so when i see it that someone does it makes me happy.

I get angry when people lay claim to stupid bullshit and dont take into consideration that other shit is possible you just shoot down things that dont fit your opinions i make mine and you call me a silly child.



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*Chuckles* I call you child because most of your posts are filled with nonsense to begin with.

And DONT call me "sweetie." You don't even know me, to call me such terms of "endearment."



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And yours arent?


And I apologize but i call everyone sweetie its out of habit



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Enough with the mindless blame game and get back on topic, these posts of ours will be deleted so it makes no matter to me what ever you post next.

I am what I am, only I know the truth. DONT test me.



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By the by, you are quite easily manipulated. You keep responding to my posts of instigation. Which is quite fun as well, thank you for the cheery atmosphere on my end.



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thanks crimsonxxtears 4 ur faith on me :)



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The Ancient Gods are the same "gods" as now in power, some direct them as Chitauri who has been seeded in powers since the beginning of human civilization up until now in our political spectrum; so they intermixed in every possible culture and seeded their bloodline in the elite sources of control, every civilization has spoken of reptile looking individuals, half human half reptile/snake, from quetzacoatl, to Enki, to lucifer, dragons, gargoyles, naga mukalinda, Ningishzida, Ra and Atum directed as Nehebkau, the "Ophites", Ophion, mapuche, the the Waugyl and Warramunga, and concluding with reptillians as the elitist group in the modern world. In every ancient culture this representation of reptillian possibly snake looking people held the power and position of highest authority. Just to a bulb for viewers investigation to carry on their own enlightenment of the holes in human civilization up to now.



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I just found a better source for investigation for you my dear friends, here you can see every culture and the snake representative, in both creation myths and god-king or power embodiment.

The Luciferians are real and the order of snake people is very clear in every culture throughout history, Annunaki may in fact correlate to this notion more than you can imagine as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_(symbolism)



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For a better understanding through the perception of our audience, please present any relevance as to the Luciferian comment of "realness" in reference to the Ancient Gods. A supposed speculated Order of Snake people isn't actual clarity.

I could say that there exists and ancient race of lizard vampires that like to suck the fear out of society, but society cannot see them since they are not in the corporeal sense. Which is where the term "Mara" originates.

I could say this, but I would need sustantial proof to back up my claims. It would more or less lay within conspiracy theory as the origins of the vampire if anything at all.



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They are humans, they are the vehicles for other dimensional entities to manipulate this reality; this entities many of the them which take reptilian form, manipulate this world through this people via bloodlines in power in every culture, just look at the highest power in every God figure or representations of mythological gods of every culture and you will get the wide picture, their are other being that try to free us but it can only be made by every individual one-self, ability to open their eyes to the unnecessary destruction, and to stop the fear that they (entities) feast from; I mean we know the war is fallacious and destructive and detrimental, and still we (as individual) don't stand up against for it or ignore thinking it has nothing to do with us, is fear of the populace more than ignorance, roughly 50,000 aprox people of the population are aware of this and the rest see this as fairy tales or conspiracy theories, when they don't even care to look for themselves jsut fallow the stream, Luciferians are against the god creation (universal form of all creation, harmony) and illustrate themselves as the god, the only god, themselves, they are adopting the entity in them.



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You as member of something relative may know more than any here of what I speak of, if the circumstances are authentic as portrayed.



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Any circumstances relating to fact vs fiction are not part of the fraternity in general. Conspiracy theory has nothing to do with "the existance of advanced beings." I wish society would get this out of their thick skulls already.

whatever circumstances tie in many theories involving the Illuminati, Freemasons, Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, so forth and so on, have little if anything to do with one another outside the box.

I will not go into politics here as it is against the TOS.

I do know more then I let on, but again... It is against the TOS to speak of politics.



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It is not fiction, and the fraternities well know of this secrets, since is in them the ancient knowledge carried down to chosen ones in the corners of civilizations, what relevant secret can they hold so alienated from this dimension that others aren't aware of it directly, you have just showing that either you are not in it, dont have clearance of anything, or you are hiding it as well. I have infinite reasons of what this "agenda" has influenced many of the worlds leading doctrines and the behavior of groups and subgroups, as well as The Templars had to evolve into clandestine vacancy, and other religious groups pertaining to the vatican and alchemist, esoterics, scientist of various eras .



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Your welcome sweetheart

Let us not forget Mesopotamian Mythology if we are going to talk about Greek Mythology.

Mesopotamian Gods

During the Mesopotamian Age ( Sumerian, Akkadian, and Babylonian ) religion and everyday life went hand and hand with no discernable differences. The idea of deity being involved in every aspect of life was as natural as breathing. In order to fully understand our pagan heritage, especially those who are newly arrived to this path, we need to go back to the beginning of paganism as we know it today. It was thought that the mesopotamians worshipped up to 300 different deity. This list is by no means complete, but is offered as a starting point on the road to understanding our heritage as pagans. Education is the underlying principle of the Whispering Woods coven. And so we hope that this will further you down the path in some small way. Further research is always encouraged for our visitors. And this list will be amended as our own research allows. We are are blessed, to be associated with such a diverse and enriched culture.


Adad - A storm god, who was also responsible for floods. Adad was the son of Anu. He is depicted as having a lightning bolt in his right hand and an axe in his left hand. He is considered as being partly responsible for the "Great flood". His counter-part is the Canaanite god "Hadad" who is the god of thunder and Lightning.

An (Anu) - He was the sky god and symbolized heaven. An's wife was Antu and their children were the "Annunaki." The annunaki are regarded by some as the seven Sumerian "fates" who waited at the gates of hell to judge the newly arrived souls. Anu was portrayed as a bull whose bellowing was thunder. He was in charge of the assembly of gods.

Anshar - The Sumerian god of the celestial world who was born of the serpents "Lakhmu" and "Lakhamu." He mated with his sister "Kishar" to produce Anu.

Apsu - The god of the sweet-water ocean. The union between Apsu and Tiamat brought forth the first of the Sumerian gods.

Bel - He was known as the "sage" of the gods. He was considered to be a very clever god. He was the son of Ea (god of wisdom and magick) and Dumkina. He was the brother of Marduk.

Dagon - Babylonian grain and fertility god.

Damu - A Sumerian God of Healing and Vitality. He is the son of Ninhursag and Enki.

Dazimua - God created by Ninhursag to cure Enki's side in "Enki and Ninhursag's paradise." He was the husband of Ningishzida.

Enki (Ea) - He was the water god of earth, air, and magick. He lives in "Apsu", the watery depths below the earth. He was the son of Nammu and brother to Enlil.

Enkidu - The God of the Forests and Wildlife. His mother was Aruru and his father was Anu. His consort was the priestess Shamhat. He was created to be the soul-brother to Giglamesh.

Emesh - A farmer of the gods. He created the trees and fields. His brother was Enten, who was the personification of winter. Emesh was the personification of summer.

Enbilulu - A minor water deity in charge of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers.

Enkimdu - A gentle farmer god. He was the god in charge of canals and ditches. He was placed in charge of the plow and yoke, and the perrenial fields where grain grew.

Enlil - He was the god of the sky and tempest. His domain was the planes of the earth and the sky above it. He is the first born of Anu and Ki. He is the brother of Enki ( God of the sweet-waters, crafts, and wisdom). He is the god who provided humanity with agricultural tools, thus allowing civilization to become established. He was responsible for bringing forth the light of day as well as all vegetation. His patron city was Nippur, the religious capitol of mesopotamia. His was the divine authority bestowed upon kings of Sumer by the Divine Assembly, which held court in Nippur. He represented the divine forces and powers of the cosmos. He was referred to as the supreme ruler of the gods.

Enshagag - A god created by Ninhursag to cure an unknown part of Enki's body in " Enki's and Ninhursag's paradise." He is proclaimed the Lord of Dilmun ( a Sumerian garden of Eden) by the god Enki.

Enten - God responsible for animal birth and the productivity of animals.

Erragal - A god of the Underworld.

Gerra - The god of Fire

Gibil - (Nusku, Nunska) He was an Assyrian god as in one of the four elements. Gibil was called governor of gods and men. His special task was to sit in judgement over the souls of men who in their lives had been unjust judges. He was a son od Anu and antu.

Haia - The god of the stores. The father of Ninlil.

Huwawa - ( Humbaba) Guardian god of the great forest in the Cedar Mountains.

Imdugud - A rain god worshipped in the area of Ur. He was shaped like an eagle with a lion's head, and with wings which were like the clouds.

Irra - Known as a plague god. Irra is an aspect of Nergal, given the tasks of inflicting disease on mankind at thhe request of the gods.

Ishum - The god of fire. He was also skillful with weapons.

Kabta - A minor deity in charge of brickmold.

Kittu - The God who represented Justice. He was the son of Utu and Sherida. And the brother of Misharu.

Lahar - He was the god of cattle. He was the brother of Ashanan. He was created in the creation chamber of the gods, " the Dulkug" in order to feed and clothe the Anunnaki.

Marduk - God of healing and regeneration. His father is Enki and his mother is Dankina. His spouse is Sarpanitum. And his son is Nabu. His patron city is Babylon and his temple is called Esagila. He is a god known for justice, impartiality, and compassion. He is the god-king of Babylon, the holder of 50 names of power. Bestowed upon him by the gods when as their champion, he defeated Tiamat for supremacy of the gods. He is the great grandson of Tiamat. He is also known as the Shepherd of the Gods due to his peacekeeping talents.

Misharu - The God who represented the Law. Son of Utu and Sherida. And brother to Kittu.

Mushdamma - A minor deity in charge of building and construction.

Nabu - Is the Babylonian god of writing and wisdom. He is the son of Marduk and Sarpanitum. He is the grandson of Ea. His patron city is Borsippa and his temple is called E-zida. He was known as the scribe and minister of Marduk. He is the Babylonian patron of scribes. He was entrusted with the Tablets of Destiny.

Namtar - The god herald of death.

It is odd how Greeks, Romans, Mesopotamians, Egyptians all have gods that follow the same exact pattern. So somewhere in history they either collided or these beings actually existed.



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wowwwwwwwwwwww u have excellent knowledge abut gods.....



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There one of the main things I enjoy reading up on



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I would have to agree with Azuredark,...they were most likely real people at one time in high ranks and deemed themselves Gods, thus the denouncement of such to them, most likely resulted in death.

At some point in time even the world leaders of today might be reflected from ancient findings of books, magazine articles, disc recordings etc. etc. and either claimed a God/Goddess as well as denounced.

Kind of reminds me of the movie "MadMax beyond Thunderdome"
Where those kids seen a drawing on an airplane and deemed ole Max a God himself; come back to Save them.



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But then why would so many different cultures have similar beings?



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I might say what is the coincidence of the gods and reverance of spe owl metals specially gold in every culture. And up until now one of the leading material currency.



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Is there a possibility that people traveled to other regions and in some way or other shared their cultural beings?



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It would help that you would bring in the link from which you plagarized your information about the "Gods" you copy/pasted.

~ILluminaria~, you know full well I cannot say another word. This is not incriminating, but off topic altogether.



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hmm typo! I meant to say precious metals reverance specially gold.



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Soulshroude such weak excuse to remain silent. If in fact was incriminating in any casing the circumstances would conclude in reactionary based debate, as I said before is either you don't know or remain in secrecy. It something common that their is an eye in every forum and this eyes try to deviate the truth in the calling of others observations, not saying is you but the feeling is correlative.



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Excuse me I thought I posted the link with the work I did not plagiarize i didnt call it my own work



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I do not see the link anywhere.

On another note, as per an answer to ~ILluminaria~, here is something to chew on for the time being...

"According to the ancient Sumerian texts, the Sumerian god, Anu, the “supreme Lord of the Sky”, the currently reigning titular head of the Sumerian Family Tree, had two sons. They were Enki (Ea), Lord of the Earth and Waters (whose mother was Antu), and Enlil (Ilu), Lord of the Air and Lord of the Command (whose mother was Ki). These two half-brothers -- surprise, surprise -- did not get along."

For the rest of the story, click here.



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Nothing new, maybe for the rest of the individuals and a very fine commentary for others see where the "demons and angels" came from in Christian denominations.



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http://whisperingwood.homestead.com/MesopotamianGods.html
theres the link for it



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Great feedback!



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Almost from the dawn of time, or least from the awakening of human sensibility, man has created Gods to explain those things he did not understand.
Early Gods could be vindictive, jealous, and cruel, or they could shine their favor upon a chosen one.
When crops failed or loved ones died it could be because of the intervention of an evil one or it could be a response to a displeased supreme being.
Gods weren't always religious icons, that is there were not always churches built to honor them. They could be necessary evils that mankind dealt with or they could be beings that were prayed to for favor.
Throughout history it has not been the Gods who caused the problems though. It has been the "Holy Men" who usurped the roles as interpreters or intermediaries who have caused so much of the pain and suffering in the world. You don't have to look up to find a reason for evil. Nor do you have to look below. Just look around. More evil has been done in the name of the Gods, whoever they might be, than could ever have been done by the Gods themselves.



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I am skeptical about that!

THere are some prouves for that and some against that.
PRO:

http://www.rense.com/general7/ages.htm

Against:

http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/Arte_UFO_eng.htm

They even hae a name for UFO from the paintings.
lol
clypeology

For me is :"No thanks, ONLY art!"



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There is more about the fighting of the UFO`s on the skies here:

http://www.sprezzatura.it/UFO_Genova/index.html



Unfortunately for the English speakers, this is in Italian only!
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I have some information on Ancient Egyptian gods in my journal. If you are interested in any one in particular let me know and I can write up a little something



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