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While reading through the myriad of topics here in the main forum, it came to mind, how many of us really have an empathy for those that we encounter as a vampyric individual???

I'm not sure but I think I do subconciously, at least a little. My reason for believing this is that soon after I awakened I found out that a few of my friends that I knew for a while and two of my exes were vampires. And this is after ruling out the wannabe's of course.

So, SeraConner, what differences did you fully discover at time of awakening? What were your senses like before and after? What did you experience through being Sired? How can you tell the real-deal from the wannabees?

Well, before I awakened, the only problem I had was extreme sensitivity to light in my eyes and skin and a love of very rare meats. When I awakened it was wierd, and I can only remember pieces of it. I entered a state of extreme hunger for a few days that wouldn't stop no matter what I ate. It felt like my metabolism went so high that it was going to eat my stomach if I didn't keep myself full. My girlfriend at the time was helping me but at one point I lost control and all I remember is trying to feed from her and the look of fear on her face. I remember the feeling of not being able to control my own actions, of being completely controlled by hunger. Ever since then I get sick if I don't feed in some way or, at the very least, eat a lot of meat products. My light sensitivity has increased somewhat along with my strength and speed. I also seem to be alot more sensitive to pheromones. As for senses, all my senses have been pretty high compared to everyone I know and I've been very good at reading how people feel no matter how much they try to hide it. And for telling who I knew was a fake, the way they act and speak, and how they actually react to certain situations made most fairly easy. One guy I'm not sure yet but he's very informed.

Weeding out the wanna-bes?

Not at all. Some of my good friends are actually.

you tried to feed on your girlfiend without permission... I think anyone would fear or freak out on that.. sorry.

I am not vampiric unless you consider the fact I enjoy rare/bloody meats. do not get me wrong I know many who live the lifestyle.

yet, My question is how is vampiric Empathy different from others that are empath?

It's not like I tried to do it purposefully, and I almost always had permission. What had her scared was that I couldn't keep control of myself and ho forceful I was. As for your question, I don't know. I don't even know if mine is vampire related or just something I have.

Personally,I do not feel that a Vsmpire is anymore empathetic than a person who isnt a Vampire.Have you ever heard of Christian Huygens? The mechanism he describes...it includes us also.

I am empathic. It is strange. It isn't the normal empathy you feel. It is amplified a thousand times. I get headaches and my body gets weak. There is a million emotions running through. Though I have taught myself to "block" most times, well, there are a certain few I cannot "block." It is for the above reason why I hate to go out in public. Too many people that might break down my barricade.

Those who are truly "vampyric" in the historical sense... those who possess the singular factual characteristic for which the Vampire was actually known... most certainly are able to sense this same extremely rare sensual capacity in another. This fact has been used by "Vampire Hunters" throughout history in acquiring "D'hampirs" (vampire progeny) and using this ability to then have them find vampires.


- Upir'

If anyone here is an expert on this it is you Upir.Makes sense in the manner that you present it.

MasqueradeDoll, empaths are those with the ability to feel, sense, 'hear', emotions of others before they are visibly noticeable. (short, snappy version).

SeraConner, how did they react? How did you react?

Oceanne, interesting, never thought of it like that, but in saying that too, wouldn't one have at least some humanic compassion?

Vampiress121, there are techniques to control and command that which you cannot now. :)

UpirLikhyj, so no compassion or empathy then huh? LOL.
Throughout history, there has been cases where the human parts of self have barely remained, giving way to such things as compassion and empathy. Ancient or Modern, emotions still exist regardless.

Aracon - I said nothing about vampires having "no compassion or empathy"; quite the opposite, in fact, exists given that... as I thought I stated clearly... they are, indeed, able to sense the presence of others like themselves.

So lovely to see you back with us, again, Oceanne! And thank you for such lovely words, as well. I have followed your remarks in the other forum topic on empathy and enjoyed such very much.

I don't remember everything but I remember that my ex starts shaking like crazy and gets an extreme craving in her mouth when someone even mentions blood. She never knew why until recently either.

Aracon, I was reading over your questions, when a vampyre starts to awaken, they cant sleep, there senses began to heighten, I spent a few months of hell, i thought i was losing my mind, I had this uncontrollable thirst. After I was sired, I realized I was able to feel empathy, how others felt, or what they were thinking, it took awhile to get used too

Thank you very much Upir,its good to be back .
But getting back to your statement ,it doesnt suprise me that vampires would be empathetic to their own kind.After all,it is found to be evident in many species.

heartofstonecold, didn't your Sire instruct you through your transistions?

Oceanne, I believe that we would be able to sense our own kind.

No he did not, I was left on my own.

heartofstonecold, that really wasn't a very smart move on your Sires' behalf. You could've experienced some overwhelming aspects. Are you ok now though?

I've been meaning to ask, what's this "being sired" you keep speaking of? Never heard it that way before.

can you define empathy for me?

~Upir~ it also does not surpise me that anyone who would claim that attribute of vampirism known as empathy, could be considered a "roleplayer for beginners" in the long run.

In my perspective, empathy really has nothing to do with any type(s) of "awakening". Since this is a normal sign of human growth which could be considered as a vampiric trait by those who would think a bit to heavily on that concept.

Animals have this trait, so there is really no big factor when it comes to emotional ties. Animals to the homo-sapien is very common. Human to human is just as common. It is just that certain individuals are more attune and sensitive then others, and therefore would not be considered as a vampiric trait at all.

~Upir~ does make a very good point though regarding empathy with this paragraph: "Those who are truly "vampyric" in the historical sense... those who possess the singular factual characteristic for which the Vampire was actually known... most certainly are able to sense this same extremely rare sensual capacity in another. This fact has been used by "Vampire Hunters" throughout history in acquiring "D'hampirs" (vampire progeny) and using this ability to then have them find vampires."

Though the idea regarding this would be emotional ties within a relationship in my perspective more then just meeting a stranger on the street and knowning that they are vampiric. It does happen, which is why I keep refering to the "highlander" feeling when another vampire is present.

But again, empathy could happen to anyone that has become or is in tune with their emotional state and well being. Having high estrogen levels could do the same thing.

i believe all beings emit a certian form of energy to what they are aligned with i call this thier "calling card" i believe most of us have it,i supose it is kind of like an intuition or even a gut feeling,it is said that when you are in the company of another like onto yourself you will know it.

SeraConner, Sired most commonly and archaically means, "A male ancestor; a forefather". But in vampyric terminology it means, "The parent (Creator) of a vampire, this vampire will teach a childe all things about being a vampire, and the rules they have to live by. Untill a vampire is ready to go out by himself his sire will be guiding him and will be also responsible for the things the child does."

PapaBJax, means the intellectual identification with or vicarious experiencing of the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes of another.

vvSoulshroudevv, extremely well stated. In my perspective of what both you and Upir have stated, I also believe that Empathy, as most would know it, is also interconnected with the psychological aspects of self, moreso the self-awareness that is attributed to most creatures, be it conscious or subconscious.

MasterMindedFate, in the circles that I roam, so to speak, this is what we refer to as "Energy Signatures". Simply speaking, kinda like that of an energetic 'finger print'.

I didn't think vampires could actually be created... I envy those who have this "sire" to guide them.*

SS, and Upir, I would add, an adult surviver of childhood sexual abuse will pick up on ( after minimal exposer) to another adult surviver. There has been studies on this, it is instinctive, and relates to behavioural cues, and social anomaly.

A type of empathy is also found in fish and other things...ie fireflies,herd animals and such.

Aaracon(sp) I know what Empath is my dear (I am also MD) I knew what was eing said yet, to try and take the energy from another as was said how it was done was what I was commenting on dear.

Yet Vampire empath is something I may not understand really cause many who are empath are not vampiric so why is or would it be or feel any different, feeding off of energy, feeling etc. is different fro every one yet, why would it be even more different for soem one who is Vampiric? That is my ?

It isnt different .How can it be? The mechanism is the same across the board.They used to think it was empathy that set humans apart from animals..Now they are finding that just might not be the case.
Anything social on this planet,will have empathy of one degree or another.
~Shrugs~ At least thats how I feel about it and what the evidence is showing.

I agree with you Oceane, that is what I was trying to askor say how can it be different? LOl

Nice question. My story would be that years ago on yahoo, and during some interesting hacker moments between people in chatrooms, i was actually victim to with a couple individuals...during those moments, there was a lady that approached me in an IM that said she could "feel my pain". She herself that considers herself a vampiric empath. After speaking with her, she and I became good friends. Yes it is possible and i believe happens when one actually 'picks up' on certain individuals.

yes exactly many can *pick up* on apersons feelings without even being in thesame place physically. Yet, I do not see where living a vampiric lifestyle one has *special empath*... just each person is different.

Aracon, thanks for asking, yes i am. I had to learn alot on my own, but have found friends that have helped me along the way. I now help, and guide those like I was, I try to help , and teach now.

SeraConner, in most cases, yes they can be Sired.

dabbler, that's true. Scientific investigations have proved it here in Australia.

Oceanne, all creatures that are self-aware on any level are capable of attuning to that of others.

BitchFromHell, That's the whole purpose of this thread, to find out others' thoughts on the whole "Is a true vampyre empathetic"...

Oceanne, I personally believe it is the same, and at the same time not the same. A true vampyre would have an extremely heightened sense of all of these attributes associated with empathy, yes? LOL.

BitchFromHell, see above. :)

PsiDreamer, most advanced empaths have this ability, regardless of it being vampyric in nature or not. Some claim to be vampyres and then when questioned have had no clue as to what was being questioned. That happens more often than not.

MasqueradeDoll, exactly.

heartofstonecold, sorry to have heard that you were left alone, but lessons learnt the hard way are sometimes the best lessons of all.

'Oceanne, I personally believe it is the same, and at the same time not the same. A true vampyre would have an extremely heightened sense of all of these attributes associated with empathy, yes? LOL."

In the movies perhaps.But every self proclaimed "true' Vampire I have ever come across is no more heightened in any sense than I am.Or than others I know of.So I cannot agree to that concept at all.I know many claim it to be so,but I have seen no evidence at all indicating that is the case.

Aracon
I understand your reply but i am not one to question or to deny credit to what she believes she is. That is not for me to say otherwise. I know that she has some ability to 'sense' some things, and has picked up on things about myself in general that i havent found many able to do thus far. I am not sure if what you have said implies to her or not but i won't put her under that catagory just yet. Thank you :)

Psidreamer,if I may...
There have been many times I have picked up on things or answered questions right before they are asked as several will attest to right here on VR..I know when things are wrong with peeps far away,I know when someone is going to call just before they do etc...
But what I cannot grasp is how being sensitive pretains to being a Vampire or how it would make me any more special or gifted than another.Or how it keeps getting attributed as one of the symptoms of being a Vampire.

Oh i understand what is being said and it's not that i don't agree on the matter....it's just that i assume that she wouldn't place the title 'vampyr' on herself unless she had some reason to do so. There are many people who can do the same thing and not label themselves as such. :)

A possible case of reinenforced suggest, bolstered with hooba' lo'. If a person whats to surround themselve
with impressionable youth (for the purpose of astonishing them)then all one does is impresses upon them something they claim makes the marks unique, and as hormonal as youth are, and the spike in their emotions being particluraly predictable, all one has to do is reinterpete those emotions to something mystic. If you sit down one shill, and a mark, you can have the "new convert" "read" the shill, example: new convert. Are you feeling.. sad?" Shill "Yes you felt my emotion." Mr. Ryu is very familiar with this, he walks all over young peoples vunerabilities. Nothing like impressionable youth to make a immature adult feel like a somebody.

Oceanne, I agree to disagree with you, on that one. I myself have seen and expeirenced these heightened senses in many that I have come to know in real life. So I guess it would be an indication of personal experiences. :)

PsiDreamer, that's most understandable indeed, and no it doesn't only apply to one person either. I am merely extracting from my own personal experiences and those of others that I have come to know quite well.

Oceanne, the purpose of this created thread was to allow people to broaden their knowledge and to open their minds to something completely different than just the norm. Vampyric Empathy is something that is rarely discussed and therefore there are some that are not quite aware of these anomalies.

PsiDreamer, agreed.

dabbler, interesting view indeed. This would most likely be relative to possible 'peer pressure' or 'wannabe' however.

I respect your feelings on that and so I will respond by saying that yes,it has been discussed quite a bit here.There are threads in the archives pretaining to such.And while we all want to open our thoughts ,that sometimes poses a real threat to what really could be the truth.It can also lend to support of fantasy,or simple missunderstanding.As far as heightened senses....I have yet to meet a 'real Vampire' who is anymore sensitive than I am as far as empathy and for the most part,havent found many who are any stronger than I am either.With that said,this is why I find it extremely difficult when threads open stating that Vampires are more sensetive,stronger etc...

It comes down to the consistant inconsistancies of testimony, and accounts. The obvious fabrications based on bit, and part from the testimony of others. Commonly called Phishing, a person who wants to be clique will adopt the often sensational fabrication of others. As parapsycology shows again, and again. even if one is convinced by a demonstration they are apt to recount thay experience with a degree of certainty.. when a person is presented with something that appears to be phenomenal, they lack a pretense in their account. You say wanna bes.. I say people that are engrossed in fantasy. as if others are more convicted to their professed "attributes" that are equally based on unsupported testimony.

The truth is that the very abilities that are claimed can be tested, under conditions that would clearly allow those who profess such abilities to be confirmed as such. Even if I believed that such "abilities" are valid, I would question a large percent of those who claimed to possess such "ability". The evidence is that those who do profess are equally skeptical of others who claim such abilities.. calling them wanna bes, and roleplayers.

as if their conviction is any more validatable.

Oceanne, I can understand where you're coming from hon.

dabbler, well said indeed. What about the aspect or rather the need to 'fit in' or 'to be accepted' among others (possibly even their peers)?

In response to ~Dab's~ last post, some of us do have that reliability to undermine others as to their convictions being validated.

One can only assume that others may or may not have certain abilities, but to validate those abilities is to test ones convictions based on adequette experience.

It is not just the vampire that has certain abilities that others do not, thus to proclaim one is vampire based off abilities alone would be quite absurd to say the least.

Hell, indigo children have mirrored abilities, or so the scientists who proclaimed the term accordingly, speculated as nessessary. But does this mean that the indigo children are in turn vampire? I don't think so. So in light of it all, I would simply use the term "vampire" as a metaphor for something that is not understandable at this time and or a way to conclude some sort of unorthodox trend that is running rampant throughout society.

Use what ever terms you wish, some do have the experience to conclude on their own not to submit a testimony about it and to laugh at those that do and get it blatantly wrong. Thus ascribing to fictional beings that have become common clitches rather then something that has yet to be understood in the long run.

Note worthy is that the term indigo has been denounced by the once shrink (they lost their credetials for breach of ethics). All the "qualifications" are the same as ADHD.
, or borderline autistic. The same group was intwined with another discredited shrink, (Dr) Weiss, who even after losing his licence cares on as a "consaltant" to psuedo scientific "research".

We Now Continue with the regularly scheduled thread..

I seem to have a very strong affinity for those who are empathic on many levels. Sometimes I need to actually stay away from others who are empathic because there are days when I'm more sensitive to others, and their moods can strongly affect mine. This is something I'm trying very hard to work on so I can be more in control of my emotionals and mental energies.

vvSoulshroudevv, extremely well put there hon! Thanks.

dabbler, ADHD has been proven to be a characteristic that medicine and/or science has yet to prove fully. It's another one of those anomalies that are only rest assured by the giving of drugs, without any true cause or nature found. This has been proven with scientific research done here in Australia that has found that ADHD doesn't really exist in a more humanic sense. It's just another term that medicine/science uses to cover up something they know nothing about. Must make a mint for the pharmalogical societies. However, Indigo Children can be exposed to stimuli that does in fact soothe their over-developed abilities in THIS human life.

MysticalJade, so are you saying that you possess more heightened senses in regards to your own empathies as a vampire, or as solely human?

"I seem to have a very strong affinity for those who are empathic on many levels. Sometimes I need to actually stay away from others who are empathic because there are days when I'm more sensitive to others, and their moods can strongly affect mine."

MysticalJ. This is a phenomenon called Entrainment.It happens with all of us and is all around us even in inatimate objects.The thing is,it isnt only the empathetic that it effects.It is part of the mechanism known as Circadium rythm.

From my journal..and there is more about it there if you are interested..

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Bio-entrainment
Any two systems that pulse or vibrate in a regular periodic manner can phase-lock or entrain. It is a universal potential since all light sound and matter are made up of vibration. Entrainment effects an increase in harmony, efficiency, and "flow" between the two or more systems.

Biostatic Field
An electrostatic field around all living things. Is affected by the electromagnetic impulses of the body. An active stretching/contraction of whole muscle groups.

Electrostatic Field
The area of static electrons that surround an object whether it is living or non-living. The field is denser towards the object's surface and theoretically extends to infinity.

Entrainment
Two or more systems that are rhythmically fluctuating at the same "frequency" that phase-lock.