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SeraConner
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To anyone who is, or believes they are, real vampires, do you consider it a gift? Or do the drawbacks make it a curse for you that's hard to live with?

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16:46:45 Nov 12 2009
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both surely, as there are advantages annd disadvatage to it, much like anything else in Life.



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Andie
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Its hard to tell.
Vampires are different from eachother. But lets say that I answer the qeustion if I would like to be a vampire if I would turn out like the ones in Confesions of a vampire. My answer is YES? Like the ones in Twilight? YES! Like the ones in Blade? YES!
Who wouldnt want to live forever always look young (and good) and be able to fly.



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17:15:17 Nov 12 2009
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The recent portrayals of vampires is one that has been stripped of all the restrictions formerly of tradition. Then those who proclaim to somehow be vampires present nothing, so their "curse" is forever being unable to utter any summary of what qualifies them as "vampires".



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SeraConner
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17:16:20 Nov 12 2009
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Ah, if only things were that way...



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SeraConner
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that was to andie's post, stupid lag in post time. And andie, even those vampires of fiction had there drawbacks. It wasn't all benefits.

And dab, I have to disagree there, unless I'm misunderstanding you words, because in my experience the limits and drawbacks are very real.



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Andie
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No no no I didnt say that it was all good. Sure there are setbacks even in the movies. I saw when I hit the post the button that I didnt make it clear that I thought that it was a gift. Everything isnt a gift but the good takes out the bad.



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Well I feel anyone who chooses to live the Lifestyle of a Vampiric nature is like any lifestyle there are always drawbacks to it, especially one that is out of the ordinary such as Living life as a Vampire. They are ridiculed, and shunned by many people.
soit is a gift and a curse in my opinion, and a choice in lifestyle, we know that *real living dead Vampires do not exist, yet the lifestyles are real and can be even dangerous. I think it depends on th eindividual as to how far they go with it as to consider it a curse or a gift.



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SeraConner
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Well said, though I will point out that for some it's not exactly just a lifestyle or choice, but a condition that needs to be lived with. And although there is always a choice, for some the symptoms are so real, physically and mentally, that choosing not to live that lifestyle doesn't even seem to be a choice.



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18:40:29 Nov 12 2009
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well that is true if a person has a medical condition or soemthing of that nature it is not a choice and there is one out there that will cause aging and deteriorating of the skin and body without regular transfusions, that is rare yet, a very hard thing to live with without any choice in the matter.

I have a patient like that and she is very unhappy it was passed down to her by the parents, genes can really be a curse or a gift for some...



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18:42:19 Nov 12 2009
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It's a curse AND a gift- it depends entirely on your outlook. Is the glass half empty or half full?



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A vampire is a powerful creature with standard strengths and weaknesses. But the outlook is what matters, I would love to live forever... but someone else may find that to be unbearable.

A gift in my book.



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SireZombie
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20:31:32 Nov 12 2009
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Like anything it all has to do with the individual themselves as to how it is reacted to. So like most things it is both.



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Oceanne
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22:45:59 Nov 12 2009
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" but a condition that needs to be lived with."
How would you classify it as a bonified condition other than a mental or chosen lifestyle Sera?What makes it such?

I feel it is a gift that some people are cursed with severe wanting but can never truely have.Depending on what it actually turns out to be.



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Zom
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02:40:40 Nov 13 2009
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What I think: It would be a gift. Since life is a gift. And 'whatis' in life is also part of your journey as a gift.



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You're asking for an answer to a compare and contrast question.

One cannot be without the other - that is the nature of what we see as opposites.

The valley isn't as deep if the mountains aren't as high. The joy isn't as uplifting if we've never experienced sorrow. Successes are meaningless if we've never experienced failure.

The good qualities are good because we have a bad to contrast it...

Honestly, death seems horrible but we cannot experience immortality, so how do we know which is worse?



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Gift or a curse? It is who the vampire is. Plain and simple. It is not a way of life for many, which would be a gift based upon the individuals actions or a curse based upon the same.

It would be seen as: "life" is a curse? Based on depressed individuals who lead not so desireable lives.

Or those with money seeing life as a gift because they are secure in their surroundings, but have not the understanding of what true relationship values are with society because their minds are so set on profits and gains rather then love and life itself.. Which in turn would be seen as a metaphorical curse in the long run.

Life is life, no matter who the individual is on the inside as well as the outside.



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dabbler
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08:12:45 Nov 13 2009
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As it is this is a poll question.

Do you believe vampirism is a curse, or a blessing?

Curse

Blessing

What is missing is the Why?

It becomes a format for testimony, and anology..

"I have it so hard as a vampire." if it wasn't for my "phenomenal' (insert claimed attribute) I would be a bored person that has to deal with being human."



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Namir
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12:14:41 Nov 13 2009
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I am not a Vampire. But I do not concider what I am to be either a blessing or a curse. I simply am what I am, sam I am. *Chuckles Gently* Everyone can look at the positives and negatives of who and what they are. Everyone can concider thier life a curse or a blessing. But really Life is just that. Life. You are what you are. Trying to be different only leads to unbalance and unhappiness. Vampire or Not.



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SeraConner
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I love the answers I'm seeing here, and for those that said both, I agree it most definitely is both.

And Oceanne, the reason that makes it a condition for some, rather than a mental or lifestyle decision, is because for some it's the symptoms of the body that make that way of life a necessity. The lifestyle decision IS still there in a small way, but without a strong reason to not go with what the body instinctively needs, that decision is barely there and known. In my opinion, and please excuse the comparison, fighting being a natural born vampire for some is like a drug addict trying to quit. When your addicted it becomes an insticual need rather than a decision to have that drug, and without a strong reason to quit, the decision to put your body through the horrible withdrawal to quit doesn't even register as a choice. It's the same with the instinctual need to feed (in whatever way you do it) for some vampires.



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Andie
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Youre right Sera. Vampire is like other states. If its bye choice it is a gift but if its uppon you and you did not chose it, its a curse. Yes kind of like a drug problem that you said.

Lets say that a person came up to you and said. I can make you a vampire, would you like that. Would he be a gift or a curse in your life?
He has to be a gift cause if he ask the question first you can think of what you want and if you get it your way then its a gift?
If the same person just came up and turned you into a vampire then he can be both gift and curse depending on what you think of the result of what he did.



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Oceanne
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"And Oceanne, the reason that makes it a condition for some, rather than a mental or lifestyle decision, is because for some it's the symptoms of the body that make that way of life a necessity. The lifestyle decision IS still there in a small way, but without a strong reason to not go with what the body instinctively needs,"

Thank you for answering Sera,and please know that my debate is not done out of hostility,but this reasoning is shot down before it begins.The human DOES NOT NEED to consume blood to survive.And whether or not anyone likes it,even Vamps are indeed human.As a matter of fact,we dont digest blood well at all but there ARE a couple of diseases that might be thought of as a Vampire condition.Vampires as you have been describing bear no evidence whatsoever that one is changed physically. .But this has been discussed over and over in these forums so I will stop before I repeat this for the 100th time.If anything,the blood crave is an addiction.



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Oceanne
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Oops posted too soon.But to finish ,and that is even sketchy because there is nothing in the blood to become addicted to.And nowIm sure this will come back from the whole energy side...



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Personally, I view my awakening as both.

A gift, because of the abilities and chances I will have. The kind of life I am leading is something I really can be proud of. Better yet, this life just feels right. It's my destiny.
Hell, I signed up for this life before I got here.

A curse, because of the emotional stress you're doomed to because absolutely no one here will ever be able to know what I am going through, more often than not making them frustrated. With their frustration comes yelling. With the yelling comes fighting. With the fighting comes stress.
This stress will literally kill you if you aren't careful.



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SeraConner
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17:50:06 Nov 14 2009
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Vampchica I agree with you fully.

Oceanne, I understand what you mean and would ussually agree, as there is no proof that it is needed. And I would very well call it an addiction too. But I've witnessed and felt the instinctual cravings myself. The best I can describe it is being similar to how my friend instintively knew exactly what she wanted to eat during her pregnancy. Even if you've never had it, you just know you crave it. Now of course not everyone experiences this, but enough do to say there's a definate possiblity of there being something there, even if it can't be shown with physical proof.



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Actually it can, but one would have to put their convictions to a test allowing scrutiny.



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SeraConner
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Is there a way to actually prove it? I've never heard of a method. And it's true most would be hesitant to perform such a test due to the reason you said.



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Ah.. see that is the wager, if one truely is convicted, then they would welcome the chance to explore the dynamics of their conviction.



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SeraConner
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I agree, that's one of the reasons I'm here. And if there's a way to prove what I am I'd take it. But many would be too hesitant to risk finding out that they're not what they believe they are.



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The idea is not to "prove", it is to test the merit of ones convicetion. As what you are addressing is not a belief, it is a conviction.



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I like to look at it as a cursed gift.



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Is not a Gift or a curse. Is just a way of living. Many times we try to make people understand about Vampire life, and they feel like we are from another time, a time from the pass, brought into the present.



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This is merely my own personal opinion, but I think it would be based on the person. I mean I wouldn't think that a vampire would have the total lack of feelings and emotion because to some degree they are human or at least once were in theory. (Mind you this is based off not having anything to back up or prove my thoughts rational. lol) That said wouldn't they have the ability to feel........ I would find it a curse. Going through life and always watching people come in and out of your life and watching people you love and care about die? That to me would be a curse. Always having to move here and there and hide to prevent your identity from being revealed........ I mean it just seems there would be more draw backs then not..... and what if you were one that felt bad for killing humans but still had the urge for human blood.... wouldn't that to a degree be torture? To me it just seems it would be more curse than gift. This world sucks most the time and to be on it for eternity........ would be a curse to me. I enjoy life while I am living it but I wouldn't want to live it forever.



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SeraConner
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Nice answer, though as far as I know we don't actually live forever, though I've heard of one who's been alive a long time.



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A gift can only come from a curse. as a vampire surely its a curse to be exiles into darkness as it is but only vampires have that gift to be atune in and through darkness more than any as beings who must feed on blood it in my mind is like a blessed and humbleing curse for vampires the reason I believe this strongly is in my beliefs vampires or a vampire created all life and because that creation is human the very force which banished humans for human wrongs is now in the grip of a type of twisted karma to learn a leason thus must feed on human blood to sustain its life and renew its Immortality thus hopfuly also rejoin and be one again with its own fallen creation. please bare with my stupedity



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While the vampire could live for quite a while, it has not been proven that it has lived any longer then 100 years or a few decades beyond that point. Or maintain a crisp looking age of say 30 or 40 for the hundred year mark.

That is, which ever stereotype of the vampire we are discussing here.



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I agree with SS as to the length of life etc. yet, you question Dabbler onproving it. You can prove it if your comitted to this life style as a Vampire than you will want blood in any form you feel deemed correct in satifing you. I mean I am not a vampire nor do I live the lifestyle yet, many I know personally do and they do not hesitate to let you know that they enjoy blood letting and feeding. I myself I love bloody meats but does not make me a vampire I enjoy my food to be as healty as it can be when eating lOl

It is a curse and a gift for many who cannot stand on their true conviction of how they actually live a certain lifestyle.

A human cannot live on only blood as far as consumingit as a food. you have to feed the body as well as the *mind* as to how you live your lifestyle. Just my 2 cents



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This question would depend on who was answering and in what context.

Life is a gift no matter how that life is lived.

The trouble with some of the answers on here is that they are based on Hollywood fiction.

It would be a gift to fly but I can't...

It would be a curse to live forever but I won't...

Vampirism is neither a gift or a curse it is a way of life.

Vlad



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very well put my dear Vladamir, it is true anyone who is alive and has a life is a gift, yet, it also is how you trat /use your gift of life as to if it is a curse or not. I mena soem people feel it is a curse just to live through one day of life so again I think it is up to theindividual as to how they percieve their life and lifestyles.



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Thank you Bitchfromhell (i do hope there is a name i can use other than that lol?)

I feed.....

and in return

I use Ki to help heal peoples minds and souls through Reiki

That is my gift to the life that I have

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