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ok now that i have your attion

posers are every where , and belong to almost every social group there is.

i have 3 questions

1. How bad does posoing affect the vampire community?
2. have you suffered from posers ?
3. how are you able to identify posers in the vampire community, what are the biggest tale tale signs?

I'm not in a vampyre community but my biggest guess would be those tossing "i'm a real vampyre!" easily in the wind.

hmm this sounds more like it should be a poll.

they have a different smell to them i think hahaha j/k

this should be an interesting thread

posers to me are the ones who read vampire comics and fiction books and movies like twilight and afterwards think they are vampires and try to act like the ones they read about without truely knowing what it is,what it means to be a vampire

I find that "poseur" is a name tossed around, almost as an excuse for one's own prejudices. If you don't agree with someone, they're a poseur. If you're psychic and they're sanguine, they're a poseur (and vice versa). If something resembles roleplaying even vaguely, even if it's practical, smart, and works well in real life, the person who invented it is suddenly a poseur. It's getting a bit ridiculous.

Seriously. Just because you're a psi and don't know what it's like to be a thirsty sang doesn't suddenly mean that you're the only legit type of vampyre, and/or that it's suddenly impossible for the other type to exist- and vice versa. You're just different, and experience things differently- but you are neither superior nor inferior. Snobbery might make you feel good, but everyone else sees you as an ignorant douchebag. So many people need to learn this, stop tossing the word "poseur" around, ask other people questions, and take a look through someone else's spectacles. Remember, most vamps describe themselves as hybrids anyway- just take a look at the Suscitatio studies- not to mention, most people wouldn't believe *you* if you told them what you are. Try telling a bunch of mundanes what you are, and then justify yourself after experiencing what you put other vampyres through. You, personally, might not have any proof that the other type exists, but you don't have any proof that they cannot possibly exist at all- so it would be a logical fallacy to claim so.

However! Rant over, I do believe that poseurs are nonetheless rampant, and I consider myself extremely fortunate that I haven't personally run into any psychotic Twilighters. Poseurs can be identified by their ignorance of actual vampyre culture, their claims of physical immortality, as well as claims of ridiculous superpowers (i.e. flying).

I would have to agree with LDR that this sounds more like a poll question or Cat's section at the bottom of the main forum.

But while its here, I would have to say those that think that they are something they are not by just reading or watching something about Vampyre's.

Now, now.. That would be telling. If we were to exploit the poseurs with sure sign information, then they would fine other means of posing.

This gets to the core issue, those who seek to ammend the standing definition of vampire beyond the fictional base present no summation of their ammendment. so to say that others are playing a role misses the mark.

Not to mention the snobs that scoff at people with simple intrest in the fictional vampire, or even a theatrical persona they exercise (as in exercising imagination). How those who profess to be somehow vampiric, and that all who arn't "in the know" are naive, and patheticly naive to simply be content with the long held fiction. so if any who claim to be vampi(y)re, are really so concerned with "weeding out posuers" they should summerize what it is they wish to ammend the definition of vampire.. or get a new nomiclature.. to be so rthreatened by role players (people who play a role that is understood to be an assumed role) is rather telling of the individuals that protest so loudly.


I hear it in redundancy, what I don't hear is any supporting information on what "makes" a vampire "true". I venture to suggest this is to avoid scrutiny from others, others that would laugh at the published material. I predict someone will say.. "Well if we release a published definition, then the "posuers" will be able to "infiltrate" us. see how viscious a cycle those who are desperate to not appear to be that which they despise.

Though the fact ~Dab~ still remains, that we could easily distinguish the poseurs because of their lack of common sense, instinct and ediquette that makes us who we are. Aside from the physical aspects so rarely identified and discussed.

fair enough. while anyone with a gratuitious intrest in some culture, or subculture is eventually exposed in candid engagements. Which depends upon etiquette, consistant etiquitte. Those with gratitious intent are often reliant upon first (through the door) phishing, and then (if they are crafty) phishing.

What about expanding this thread to include poser goth.. as in those who desire to be refered to as vampires to avoid being "sounded out" for their generic proclaimation of attempting to pass as goth.

I meant first scripted banter, and then phishing in my last post, I doubled on the phishing. Those who "pose" have a script, and the script is supplimented with info phished from the present mingle chat.

At first ~Dab~, I thought you were going to relate the poseur goths with the "emo" term.

The Four Stages of competance

Unconscious incompetence
The individual neither understands nor knows how to do something, nor recognizes the deficit, nor has a desire to address it.

Conscious incompetence
Though the individual does not understand or know how to do something, he or she does recognize the deficit, without yet addressing it.

Conscious competence
The individual understands or knows how to do something. However, demonstrating the skill or knowledge requires a great deal of consciousness or concentration.

Unconscious competence
The individual has had so much practice with a skill that it becomes "second nature" and can be performed easily (often without concentrating too deeply). He or she may or may not be able teach it to others, depending upon how and when it was learned.

Unless you are at stage 4; any phase less than you is a poseur... if you are at stage 4, you understand that a student is not deficient because of what you have not yet trained them to be.

Sharing is the culmination of achievement. You are not wealthy, unless you help others become wealthy; you are not educated, unless you teach; &c.

I mean mastered stage 4, not simply at.

hmmm. . .poser. . .people who go watch twilight and run to by some body glitter so they sparkle in the sun. . .lol

Well everyone is different so to speak about how they percieve who the posers are and there are sure to be different rules as far as real vampires go here is my list

1 the speach the way one comunicates - well in my book a rael vampire cant lie, cant lie, cant die-how to tell who is lying and who is honest - well vampires are very good at pin pointing the liers for they drink alot of blood but perfer to drink the blood of the wise and this blood gives them a more in depth expereince to the life force so as they say one word is not all words this is the bad smell the vampire can pick up on real fast one word is not all words that to a vampire is false and rather than feed the vampire would leave like a bat out of hell so to speak

2 the vampires dont truly claim that humans are not relatives and family members just because humans cant transform into birds or snakes per say does not mean they are not related to vampires who are very more in touch with mother natures creatures for the more honest a human becoms the more the human becomes able to evolve into its other forms

3 Do vampires sparkle
well this is a very fagile topic as vampire have a long history with the Sun and are creatures of the night this also gives way to christiandoms beliefs which beliefs state that evil is of darkness and hates the light in a real way for if the evil steps into the light unprepared it is exposed and its evilness is seen for what it realy is thus causeing its suductive enticements to be no more effective as theoligy goes they also state that there is such a thing as the children of night in contrast to children of the day so well I am not a racest person compleatly and I am not trying to get into a religous sword fight or slander anyones beliefs for are they not all god given but this is ment to be on the topic of posers poseing to be vampires so the point is that a poser would be very wise not to joke around on the sparkleing vampire subject because to a real vampire the sun is a part of its soul yes vampires have a soul and that part of the vampire is mysterios

Wait a minute, did you just suggest that real vampires actually do sparkle? Give me a break.

there is a little black spot on the sun today I think thats from sting but no the only vampire ever known to sparkle was lucifer the son of the morningstar

Dude, get your references in order. Lu-ci-fer was the morning star. Its translation is directly from the Latin context.

1 corinthians ch1 vr19
for it is written.

I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,
and the learning of the learned I will set aside.

vr20 Were is the wise one ? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made the wisdom of the world foolish?

Poser: [poh - zer] noun Human.

All florid language aside, even the most blood thirsty, 'tortured', 'dark-souled', gothiest goth is a poser. A vampire by definition is a fictional beast or literary device. We all have differing definitions but that is because it is fun to explore and expound upon the idea of a perfect, immortal form. There needs to be a new term for those who naturally resemble-or strive to out of vanity-the perceived qualities of a vampire. Even if you drink blood or draw upon someone's energy you are not a vampire but a leech. A completely worldly, based in reality and upon Earthly physics, leech. You are a squishy wolf in a preternaturally manipulated suit of defiled sheep corpse, but beyond all of those misnomers you are unequivocally and irrevocably, human. My apologies.

Acting and modeling your personality or physical traits after a creature you find intriguing is natural, the image of Zombie Man comes to mind, but know and accept that it is all in good fun and in worship of the all mighty ego.

And leave the P-word at home, people bandy it about all too often, wielding it with quivering white knuckles in mad hope that the one who screeches it first and with the most conviction is exempt from it's acid truth. This is not Salem, there are no witches here, just fun-loving men and woman gluing warts on their noses and skipping around on broomsticks; much to the bemusement of those sniggering in the corner, wartless but wielding wands and chanting. The mopy ones with bondage robes and wild green face paint smoking out back are with the party too.

The bickering has long removed any possibility of discussion here. It could very well be more beneficial to use a poll question to get some responses, to your question.

We all came here for the singular reason of being fans of the vampire world, via film, literature, games or lifestyle. Enough with the arguments.