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This is obviously for vampires and is for both psi and sanguine. How do you feed? What does if feel like, and if you can answer this one as well, what does if feel like for those you are feeding upon?

typically just build an orb, grow a tentacle from it, latch on to their energy, siphon it, purify it, then absorb the now-full orb.

Then there's always those who offer to do blood-letting.
Either that or just whack someone on the head and do what must be done.

Oh, for the orb they just feel tired/drained.

For the blood part, well, if they're conscious it probably just feels like they're bleeding.

i often feed on ambient energy in a crowd. in that case i just "open myself" to it. i cant really explain it...its more of a mind set.

for sang feeding....usually i use a small short knife...i make a small incision, and just lick at the wound.
ive been told it feels very erotic, and usually leads to other sorts of play later.
~W~

"feeding" is a very private matter, and as such should not be discussed within this forum. Just my opinion on the matter...

Carry on.

I have to agree some things are private and should be kept to oneself.

Re: ~Cabrion~

"Either that or just whack someone on the head and do what must be done."

I would retract this part of the post if I were you, as some might take that comment seriously and subscribe to the "wacking" of someones head. Please, in the future.. do not advertise violent actions when discussing the act of "bloodletting" as people do take things very seriously as well as quite literally when looking for advice.

This being posted, please continue...

Carry on.

true that is how it gets a bad name and rep. Some ppl take things to serious and that brings a good thing into a bad.

Im a Sang now when I feed I have glass knives that i use . i love the way they cut nice smooth cuts that bleed very well and are easy to clean and doctor later . I am always worried about my donor . Must always keep them healthy and safe . I only use one donor and never feed on depressed or troubled souls . When i feed as i cuts my donor just relaxes in a state of bliss . Then i love running my tongue in the wound it makes it bleed alot more . As i feed I feel the transfer of energy from my donor to myself . Its a connection I feel like the world goes away . The perfect drug .My donor is the one i am careful for i try not to feed to long to drain their energy to much just enough to satisfy my need so I stay strong . If i dont feed for a while i stat to get weak and sick and i need to feed . But i have not had that in a while I feed about 6 times a week . i always clean the wounds well and use my own little ways of herbs to heal the wound . They usually heal in about 3 days . There is never any scars if there is a scar it fades in a month or so and the flesh looks flawless . All you do when you feed the way you do and how you care for it is all imporntant . If not youll have bad results or can cause problems with your donor

True mr.Soul. i forgot some people don't actually know sarcasm when they see it.
For all you kiddies out there, that's called assault and will undoubtedly land you in prison where you will probably be counted as insane by the inmates and beaten unmercifully.
And wear a condom, for diety's sake.
(and no, i'm not mocking Soul)

Yeah I must say somethings are best left to the eyes of the beholder. Feeding is sacrede and really I beleive should not be put into details. Cause for some the method is best left unsaid

I am just a little confused........I thought that all this was secret that the only ones that know about it are ones in the coven or donor.

I have to agree ....my 'feeding' habbits are private I wouldnt wish the world to know every lil thing about me.....esp that

i agree some things should be kept secret but if you want ones to understand and not fear you . you could tell them a few things i never reveal all about myself . i always give a little no matter how much i say . i dont just tell anyone about things . my doctor say my blood drinking is a normal things and people should not hold it against me . people all do their own things so people should not judge . people here are not supposed to judge other nad either . we all here know how eachother are . so we basically compair notes . i always give a little thought to people when they ask i have many things that are for me only . i always try to help others understand i never let them know the deepest part of me . my world is not secret my life is . so nobody should tell another that they should keep quiet about things . people should speak their minds as much as they can . if people want hide yourself . but me i only tell part of the story . i like to make people think they know all about me . uz i said so much but in my mind i have told them nothing but a whisper of the reality i have . so never think you know all you may just be allowed to know a small part and youll look bad thinking you know all when you know nothing really . i never give my weakness .

Re: ~Cabrion

"(and no, i'm not mocking Soul)"

I didn't think you were, and I appreciate your explanation of the sarcastic remark as well. It tells the Rave that you were being facetious regarding your earlier post. So thank you for the re-iteration.

Re: ~4gottenmemories~

"I thought that all this was secret that the only ones that know about it are ones in the coven or donor."

As I am not the be all end all of this subject, I will just add my two cents...

If one does adhere to a "coven" philosophy then sure, with those that you trust. Whether it be a coven, house, or what ever other terms one would use properly to describe their "click", or group that they hang around with.

Now, for those that would have their "donors" or what ever they wish to call the "cliche", have one if it suites your need. Though I tend to call this a roleplayers term, the more power to you. This is regarding both "sang" and "psi" cliche terms. No one really needs donors from either branch of "feeding" types (sang or psi). If it gets you through the day, then fine. More power to you. Just don't let anyone bring you down or insult you for your way of handling things.

Re: ~Creeper~

I understand where you are coming from, so do not let this reply to you think that I am insulting you in anyway.

I wouldn't let the manipulation of social activities strike at you the way they seem to. No one needs to understand anyone nor fear them for what they do behind closed doors. If you wish to carry on a public display of effection, ie your way(s) of "feeding" then please do it respectfully and govern yourself accordingly with a descreet mindset. Thus, in turn you would not be insulting anyone to where they would neither understand nor "fear" you and or your way of life.

It is unfortunate that you seem to carry a certain air about you that feels as though you are "rebelling" against something. Adolescence does that at times. You may feel a bit unappreciated regarding your home life to some extent, but I feel that you may be making up certain things to entertain your audience, ie the "glass knife" post you made earlier on.

If people do not like the way you live your life, then so be it, just ignore them and move on. There is really no need for lashing out or looking to garner attention.

Again, if I am wrong in my discourse regarding your personal trials, then I apologize. But again... any type of "feeding" is a very private matter and should be treated as such online and off. If someone needs to have the "feeding" described to them, then they are not ready for what they are either about to do, or are simply phishing for information regarding things that should not be discussed. Those who do describe these things are once again, either crying out for attention, looking to entertain an audience, or are roleplayers looking for other like minded individuals.

I begin to suspect the intent of individuals who disclose their personal preferances for anything private.

It is not uncommon even in such venues of conversation, for individuals to phish for tidbits to use as fabrication material later ( often to attempt to impress, or discomfort others later)

The manner in which a person discloses their " vampirism" and subsiquent practice is also telling of same individuals intent, and prospective expectation.

To generally assume that " no body gets me", or people are repulsed by me, leaves out a miriad of other potential responses to such disclosure.. indifference.. being an obvious reaction.

I am often curious as to exactly how individuals who " come out as vampires" expect people to receive their proclaimed identity.

I agree with Creeper.

Though some things should Never be stated to the public, people need to understand before they can learn to accept and believe.

Re: ~Dab~, ~Vampirechica~

There are others ways of associating oneself other then "feeding" habits.

No one really talks about longevity corresponding how one looks younger then others of the same age, intelligence quota, senses that are hightened, ie this always relates to those who have the "sixth sense" in these forum threads.

What about other ways those who self identify as vampires, would identify with other then their "diet", such as their aging process or other diagnosis?

But that may be a thread of a differant nature... As this one only discusses "feeding".

In response to creeper's earlier post i just wanted to add in I find it is usually helpful to have at least 3 donors so no individual gets too tapped out or drained. This would apply to sang or psi. And for me, even when in a committed relationship with another of my kind, we both find it useful to have some outside donors so we don't take too much from each other. This is just what I have found to be useful

I think a lot of people have a fantasy about either being with a vampire... and what it feels like .... In the movies it's either full of gore or a very sexual thing( the so called feeding). I don't know...I am just a mortal and I can't help it...There's a part of me that wonders how everything works,,,,I don't wanna make anybody mad of offend somebody,,,

I adhere to safety and rules when feeding.

vampchica then if people need to 'understand' certain things before they ' believe, and except', then why not disclose the resources/ reference material you read that you base your belief/ conviction on?

I am very open minded and don't need proof to believe....Sometimes I get overwhelmed and taken away by the whole way of life. So i was just saying don't you somewhat understand why people wanna know what goes on behind the doors...there's just a lot of mystery that interest people

Thats just it, that assumtion that people who think themselves mysterious perpetuate.

So is the whole intent to mystify, or astound people?

mostly i feed through the energy given off by sex. umm it feels like pure ecstasy. and when i feed off my partner she thinks it is amazing

Re: ~Dab~

"Thats just it, that assumtion that people who think themselves mysterious perpetuate.

So is the whole intent to mystify, or astound people?"

Isn't that what you have drew a conclusion on last year? The whole vampire mystery that gets most people, the talk of secrets and such that mystify the audience into wanting to know more just because they think there is an underlying connotation to everything "vampire"?

I do agree with that idea, but I also say that talking about "feeding" is like talking about intimacy, I always have thought of it in that light. One does not discuss their intimate life, not because it is taboo or some such, but purely for the fact that it is no ones business what happens behind closed doors.


Re: ~Kyoshiro~

"mostly i feed through the energy given off by sex. umm it feels like pure ecstasy. and when i feed off my partner she thinks it is amazing"

Of course it is pure ecstacy, and that it is amazing. That is what intimacy is, is it not? Duhh. Not to bring you down or anything but just because there can be energy consumed from intimacy, does not mean that the individual is nessessarily "feeding" from the "pranic energy" thereof. Hell, I know a few who are addicted to intimate moments because it "feels good". I thought this was common sense.

no i dont take offense to anything said . thats why we have these place to talk to each about things . Now i am not trying to entertain or rebel or cry out . I am just an open person about things . I never reveal my true intimate private life . somethings sometimes for certain people need a little help and guidance . I would hate to know that someone would take things upon themselves to do things and hurt someone horribly . I try to make sure all are safe and no one has a serious accident to bring a life or themselves to an end , i Believe that most in true heart deserve a chance only if their intentions are good to enjoy life in the right way now . There are some that come along that are discovering their true selves that dont understand and some need help with them . I am not telling of other ways to feed as most if you know will really hurt ones bad or even bring death . Me i am a very intimate person and have many ways to feed ,. I like the point of the glass knife . I have made it myself because i have had experiences that involved glass and noticed the beautiful cuts they make how fast they heal and the little scaring they leave . So i have made it for my donor who enjoy the way it feels and how it increases their emotion . Now others I have know like myself choose a different way to feed which i will not talk about openly because youger ones and roleplayers do not understand and might not be safe with it . The open talk I have had is one that anyone of sadistic matter can endure . my true ways for myself are not for just anyone and i am sure all would agree . So this is my way and myself as well . I hope more are understanding now to what I was speaking of and nobody misreads what i said .

Not all are mysterious, I do not care if the curious know about us.

However, I know of my friends frown upon dissemination so like most I tend to respect their wishes.

Respect to Dab and others for the logical approach if they want to know the mechanics then email me.Please just stop dismissing so many logical intelligent people who have absolutely nothing to gain from trying to make normal folk understand our knowledge and understanding.

An Analogy that was only recently recognised, "Want to know how Autism feels? ask an Autistic kid".

If you read "The curious incident of the dog in the night-time" you will be much better prepared to understand what we experience. I hope this help you get your head around this.Tfs.

some things should be left un-said Point blank....

Falling Star,

Here you are more cohernt then in your latest post, notable.

All that is being requested of those who identify as vampires is a source, a referance material, not about details, just a summation of the ideaology.

Upirs being the only person to have presented compelling material.

I again challlange you to disclose the material that compells you to identify as a vampire.

dabbler, you challenge people to produce credentials about something that more than anything else is a feeling at the core of ones being (in my humble opinion ofcoarse).
its like asking someone how they feel, and they say, "i feel great" or "i feel terrible", then you tell them to prove it.
i dont have a degree in vampirism saying that im a vampire and i dont have "da bigol book o vamps" with my photo on page 666. its something i feel at the core of my being.

if thats not good enough for you to accept, then why ask? i suspect that youll dismiss my reasoning here, but then im not making a claim to make money, to pick up chicks, or to write a dissertation. i admit it because i feel free here to do so.
i hope that ridicule doesnt cause too many people to feel the need to wear a mask on the site.
just my thoughts
~W~

L.W. most of the kin here tend to stay in the shadows now because of how he is.. I agree with yo on what you just said to him ( Dabbler ) 100% and how you put it. Hats Off to you.

I agree with you two whole heartedly, I don't talk about being a vampire very often and I'm very careful about what I do say (feeding and anything else for that matter). But the one thing that really fries my eggs is people telling me to prove it! Ok well I could if they were in the room with me, but it's a tiny bit harder in cyberspace!

This is a very personal and touchy subject. Some here are very predictable in how they will answer rather "than" just approach the subject without making it a platform for personal biases.

I have to say that many on here are very young and I will not talk down and say that all are impressionable but some are to say the least and will try to duplicate what is written here. Everyone has their own style and way of doing things. It is best to learn from others you are close with and have earned your trust. It is better to be with those that you can interact with in the real world and learn or at least take advice and not deal with those on the net. Take everything you read on the net with a grain of salt because some people will say anything to look "cool".

How one feeds and on what they feed can vary greatly and is a tad too foolhardy to be talked about on the net in my opinion. Buy a book. There are many who have written them that think they know it all.

I am going to get a bit off topic here, so bare with me... The topic will remain after this prior reasoning:

Re: ~LordWolf~

"its like asking someone how they feel, and they say, "i feel great" or "i feel terrible", then you tell them to prove it.
i dont have a degree in vampirism saying that im a vampire and i dont have "da bigol book o vamps" with my photo on page 666. its something i feel at the core of my being."

I seem to have a slight problem with this analysis. The analogy given above seems to only describe certain "feelings" that an individual has regarding what they think they are. Not actually what they think they are. Just because one feels good, bad or other emotional traits does NOT make them anything at all, so the analogy is null and void and comes as some sort of excuse in not really knowing the answer to ~Dabblers~ question. It seems to have skirted the question entirely.

I mean no offense by what I have posted above, but sometimes it needs to be noted. I feel that there is a huge problem wtih the self ascribed "vamp'y'res that think they are when they may not be. Excuses such as "I am "psi" just because I think I can "feed" off of others energies vibrations, emotions, nature, pranic or tantric energy" are all good to hear and all that jazz, but to actually practice what is preached is another thing entirely.

So the audience does not know you personally, this is online and anything can be stated just as ~Mollidew~ has specified. The kids on here would take things quite seriously just as they would in life. The peer pressure is remarkably astounding considering the respected or rather lack there of "sources" online.

The point of this post is not to mock, make one feel guilty, or have anyone take offense to it. it is to make the audience come to its senses on the realization of not all self ascribed "vam'y'res" or vampires actually know why they call themselves such. They just feel certain things that make them feel that they are differant to others around them.

The term vamp, is a connotation of those feelings within them that cannot be described without any type of definition since the term vamp is the closest thing society understands that relates the closest to what they naturally are or feel.

Yes, ~Upir~ does have very compelling thoughts to back his side up. But so do a select few as well. That would rather not come forward with their information because their are too many "phishers" out there that may take advantage of the information for their own gain and thus claim to be something that they are not.

It is kind of like telling someone that you are a Freemason, but have no proof of it. You are given a false hand shake, then go to a real Freemason and try that handshake on them. They will naturally take offense to the Cowen's handshake and shun them accordingly.

Vampires do not have dues cards to back up their claims, they do not have evidence of their association to what they "feel" that they are, very very few have medical records that document things that seem to be anomalies that the docs cannot explain.

I still feel that there is a HUGE differance in the vamp"y"re and the vampire. Some think that the vampire is a roleplay term, which in my perspective it is not. Some feel that the spelling with a "y" is the roleplay term because too many use it. The sub-categories of "sang" and "psi" via the vamp"y"res classification has become in my eyes, very cliche.

Either you are vamp, or your not. It doesn't matter how one feeds to give proof of what they think, feel or know you are. No one needs to give proof of anything to validate this. It is gut instinct that others of the very same nature can tell without even looking in your general direction. It is all INSTINCT.

Those that do not get this, are NOT vamp at all, but Cowens that wish to be because they might think it is cool or they want to become something they are not for the purpose of rebelling. Who knows.

These are a few reasons why one should not disclose their "feeding" habits in public, no matter what sub-category of "sang" or "psi" relation they claim. You don't talk about your intimate affairs do you? Why discuss other habits??

Just my two cents of explanation. I could describe all the anomalies that I have.. but why? it is no business of yours. If you were like me, then you would have the instinct to know what anomalies that I am hinting on and be none too worried about any of it.

Thus my point.

you know for the the first time in a thread I am going to agree with you S.S. well said!

I will not explain in full detail as I somewhat agree with SS. Some things are better left unsaid. I will however, give you some small details. I use a lancet to get a few drops of blood the few times I feed sanguinariously. I also feed psionically. After I feed, I get a feeling of warmth that goes all up through my body. I will not share what my donor feels, that is his place. He is my husband, his name is Carnage. I had his permission to put his name. This is all I am comfortable letting out, for it may help someone and has educational purposes.

Ryu,

I give your coven page props. Here's why, it presents a summary of what you base your belief on, I believe it also appears in your journal.

Weither or not I subscibe is not important, but that you present it for scrutiny is notable.

I also note that you distinguise your ideal with the vampyre spelling. This shows a degree of distinction.

to clarify my reply post to Falling Star,

To indicate that people are 'fools' for not accepting, I'd subscribing to the belief that some have that they are vampires is ludicris.

To imply that people are ignoring ' facts' and wolliwing in 'falsehood' is equally pathetic, since few individuals who believe themselves vampires present any text, or reference material that summarizes their ideals, and origin of claimed facts.

Such information is then open for scrutiny, and critique, by not only skeptics, but others that share similar beliefs to varing degrees.

If an individuals claims to " go it alone" on " feelings" then fine. But to be be abuptly arrogant to people who opt not to accept your convictions is maniacal, and suggest pathology, or psycosis.

LW,

Has never to my knowledge called, or implied that people who don't subscribe to his convictions are ' fools' or 'delissional', a notable difference between "band wagoneers"and " schooled" individuals.

SS indeed I understand clearly the discretion needed around potential phishers.

Falling S, feel free to message me with any material you feel summarizes your position on ' vampire'.

dabbler, just so you understand me, i actually respect your mind. you seem to have a very logical mind and use occams raser to help get answers.

my problem is that it often seems that you and a few others want to jump on any belief that a person presents and try to fit it (shoving it , driving it) into a science.
my first degree was in nuclear physics and i teach high school ap physics classes, so if someone wants to present a belief as scientific fact, i also want to declare bullshit.

that said, if someone believes they are the reincarnation of cleopatra, i just go with it. perhaps they cant prove that they are, but i certainly cant prove that they arent.

some people on here are atheists, which is fine...to each their own. but i do resent it when they declare with absolute certainty that there is no god. some things are just a matter of ones own faith.

to continue with the relgion analogy, there are some beliefs i think are rather silly, but i would find it very disrespectful to say so.

am i a vampire....you betcha.
can i prove it empirically...nope
why do i think im a vampire....
very short answer...it feels right.

and if anyone has a problem with that, then they can bite me (no pun intended lol).

if i have been misunderstanding your ways, then im very sorry, but i am a bit tired of those that seem to want to come on vr just to trash vampires.

reminds me of atheists that might go to a christian web site and trash christians (or any other religion).

just a note here to soulshroud: true, sometimes my analogies are lacking, but when im on vr, im often exhausted and running on fumes. i feel im doing well to make even a small semblance of sense! lol

and finally these are only my thoughts...your milage may certainly vary.
~Wolf~

I feel that Creeper has a right to answer the question of feeding and how he does it, just likeeveryone else does! The question of feeding was asked on here, and if someone choose's to answer, then no one should care. You have the right to answer the question any way that you see fit. Sure how or if a person feeds is a personal matter in itself, but if someone wishes to tell something of themselfs on here, then we should respect this and not try to make that person feel bad or less of a person for trying to share something of themselfs.

Yes, it is an issue of what each individual feels about the topic. If someone wants to answer the questions fully, it is their business. I think everyone merely expressed how they felt about the topic. There have always been on every issue in the community those who want to tell all so the public at large will understand (they believe) and those who think it should be kept within the confines of those in the community. This is a personal option. The question was asked but considering that most know that a portion of the community are blood drinkers, I believe a very unsafe question to be brought up. I can understand asking how it makes you feel and what the craving is like but how people actually feed isn't a safe question with so many underage people here on this website.

I also feel that no one owes anyone any kind of information as to what proof there is to show you are what you proclaim. An example would be Sigourney Weaver. I could ask her why she believes she is a woman and it would be outward appearances. She was born a hermaphrodite (intersexed) so essentially she was both genders. I don't think they had DNA testing to see what her predominent sex was then. Most opted for female because it is the easiest operation. What makes anyone anything? It is innate, in nature and one just arrives at certain personal revelations. Much of what I see and hear now is sort of faddish. I don't always agree with much of it and its not because I don't think the person is what they think they are. They feed in a way that suits them or has been taught to them by those they socialize with.

Why any individual calls themselves vamp is always disputable. This is a given and as such, the arguements regarding it should calm down just a little since it is common sense that the disputes always take place and therefore all offended parties should look at it through the contenders eyes. Simply put, look at it through the eyes of those who do not agree with you to realize how you look to them when you say it.

Re: ~Rainwitch~

It is obvious that everyone, no matter what site they are on or in reality, have the right to speak their opinion. But others also have the right to contest that or those opinions with opinions of their own. Such is the way of life. As well as it is the right for people such as yourself to stand up for the rights and or opinions of others if they agree with them. This is common sense and is the whole of communication. How would one not understand a subject in its entirety if it were not contested at all? Would it be taken as a be all end all of that subject? Absolutely, but one still needs to look at all sides of the subject such as its scrutinies and downsides before fully understanding all aspects of the subject.

It is not that any here are "making fun of" others on here for speaking out that they think they are something differant then "human". It is that we are speaking out that if one were "differant" then they could perhaps draw a conclusion that others would automatically contest those certain individuals because they need to.

Hell, I contest everyone that claims to be vamp because I know the signs by instinct and can tell if someone is giving a falsehood just for the sake of it. This is why I call them out. I do not make fun of anyone. If they wish to be called something then the more power to them. But to try and be something that they are not is, quite frankly, completely obsurd in my eyes. Just be yourself and not care about what society thinks of you.

If anyone feels that they have the right to answer the question regarding "feeding" habits, then by all means do so. You will not be at fault for doing so, but please have it on your conscience that if someone takes your example and does cause harm that you know about, then it is on your hands if you know the person of what said crime took place. This is not a threat, but a reality. When a person speaks out on what they feel about any type of bodily harm when it comes to "feeding" (sang style) then of course there may be backlash for the respresentation to others, online and or off. It does not take a first time for the beginner to get "it" right. It may take many many times later for the practice to be perfected. And as such, should be supervised at all times until the mentor feels that the beginner is ready to be on their own.

This is not a debate on how "vamp" someone is, so let us get off that side of the topic before this thread gets its "RIP" status. Let us instead concentrate on why it is being debated regarding why someone should not reveal their PERSONAL "feeding" styles. This is after all, the threads topic, is it not?

I posted PERSONAL because these things are very personal. Feeding is a way of getting nutrients, yes. One can spout out anything to their hearts content, I have no problem with that. But when it comes to personal styles I would be as reluctant as the next individual in telling someone how I *clears throat* am intimate with someone I love. It is virtually in the same metaphoric context.

Just be descreet, always have descression when explaining those details and always, always explain safety precautions at all times. Post how things could go right or wrong. Just don't give out the nitty gritty details if you don't feel comfortable with it.

Remember, that just because someone feeds a certain way, does not make them "vamp". As feeding is not the be all end all of why someone is "vamp". Anyone can feed in those ways. Not everyone has those extra "things" revolving around them.

Well said, personally I am not offended so what about feeding.
One method is to form a psychic link thus feeding from a target using emotions such as stress and anger* Grinz (that is very sneaky but can be amusing)

Another is to touch and accelerate the minds eye into a dynamo of excitement until energy flows buzzing from the brain through the metal contacts(fangs and nails ...yes Calcium is a metal) the yes will often change as the lense is also predominantly made of calcium, albeit transparent.
Once the victim is "glowing" with pleasure one can double up by licking the wound for a few life particles.

LW,

I follow your reasoning.

My target is to contest those who are compelled to imply that people who do not subscribe to their adopted identity ' fools', or imply that such people are ignorant of something obvious.

I am well aware of, for example, of Upirs Articles. Full discloseur..

If one expects respect ( ie not having people call then silly) then they should well avoid likewise calling non-believers ' fools'. Something I clearly note that you personally refrain from.

Some express a better degree of certainty, others appear intent to confront
those who do not subscribe to their adopted identity, rather insecure behaviour.

dabbler, i salute you sir, and agree with you completely.

perhaps i have misunderstood some of your posts...i do agree that that ad hominem attacks are completely pointless.

calling someone a fool is foolish lol.


my suggestion is if someone says something you disagree with, just move on.

after all, an argument on vr isnt going to change someones opinion...so therefore is only wasting time.

again, if i misread your intent before, i apologize
~W~

I believe arguements are pointless . This is a place where we stress not to judge others by what they do and how they are . Nobody has the right to judge others by the way they think they are . Nobody knows the truth in someones heart about why they do what they do and why they express the way they do . Some like to hide things and some are proud and care not what people think . Society drives us to hide our ways whiles they push their views on others . Its ok for them but we have to hide . When can we live free and not in the shadows and be proud about what we are and not fear what people think . Then here is one world where we are cuz society downs our ways . So why can't we be honest with eachother here if we are here for the same reasons . To be around ones who understand our needs and cravings and they DONT JUDGE us . I just think this is our one place of freedom away from our closed chambers . Why can't be who we are here without judgement like society has . I feel this thread shows people here judge just like society and its wrong to me . We are here to support the views of other and not judge .Thats my final thought on this .

Again, let us please stay on topic before this thread gets "RIP"ed.

The topic is "Feeding". Not judgement, nor arguements.

Stay the course.

Although I am not yet allowed to feed directly from a Host yet (My Guardian allows me to take a vial of blood a week) because I am considered not ready yet, I asked three members of my Guardian's coven. One told me that with the right host it is very erotic. He said that he makes a small incision on the wrist or shoulder, and drinks his fiil. He also added that it often leads to feedings of a more....intimate nature. The second said tht her feedings were more spiritual in nature, that an almost unearthly bond forms between her and the Host. She said she bites her host directly, and would never profane the relationship by allowing it to get...intimate. The third had just lost his host to the convent, so he said he couldn't really help me. Since he had not yet been allowed to take another host, something about mourning his host as if they were dead, he subsisted on blood vials like I do. So I guess when it comes to feedings of a sanguine nature, it varies just like vampires do. I look forward to the day I become attached to a host, and can feed like my hold-brothers.

just to repeat myself, (but worth repeating i think)
be safe...
dont drink from those you dont know...make sure your donors are tested for blood borne pathogens. a case of hep c would ruin your whole night...and all of the nights after that.

otherwise, feed well.
~W~

Re: ~Lordwolf~

"dont drink from those you dont know...make sure your donors are tested for blood borne pathogens. a case of hep c would ruin your whole night...and all of the nights after that."

Now don't take offense to anything I am about to post, this includes all members who think they are vampires.

The don't drink from those you don't know speech seems a bit contradictive to me. Not in the essence of "yeah, blood born diseases do exist", but in the context that true vampires would seem to care less about who they "feed" on, would they not?

I mean, don't get me wrong here. Of course there are plenty of blood born diseases, but if the vampire were naturally immune to these things, then they would cares less who they "feed" off of.

Which brings me to the assumption that more then a few people that claim the title of "vamp" would simply care less about the whole "donor" thing. If they were true vamp, then they would not have to have blood tests on a regular basis. Just saying.

As well, those who would claim the title of the almighty "vamp'y're" thing, live in a completely differant world then the rest. By stating this, I mean they live in a state of mind that they must have their "swans", other wise they may get sick or something close to that.

Correct me if I am wrong here, but if there were true "vamps" here or there, why would they even need to get anyone tested for anything regarding "feeding"? I supposed this is easily avoided by calling themselves the "psi" stereotype, just so they would have further acknowledgement of who or what they think they actually are? Again, just saying.

The whole thing to me just seems to be one big charade. Things seem to be too contradictive, and hypocritical. Such as some "black veil" nonesense that vamp"y"res are no longer allowed to drink blood, so some such B.S. Which is another good reason why NOT to follow any kind of rules or doctrine within the acclaimed vam"y"re side of the community.

Like I stated, take no offense. Just trying to clear things up that I have noticed in the long run while doing a mass amount of research regarding the community in general.

As what I have posted may start bickering or hot headedness, please keep on topic with the main discussion: "FEEDING", as this thread is a good one this far, I would hate to see it prematurely "RIP"ed.

This is kinda hard to describe but I think I can do it...let's see...

Psi (psychic feeding) - this is the easiest form of feeding for any Vampire, it is simply absorbing the energy or Aura of the target, this requires little to no actual physical contact...I normally bite the female I feed from, not to break the skin, simply to have a direct channel...
>For me: it feels like a light semi-warm mist or fog or smoke swirling around in her body before it flows out of her skin and into my mouth, then it feels like I'm just drinking the smoke...
>For her: it feels like a sudden drop in energy, her body gets warmer and kinda heavy...

Sang (blood drinking) - this is far more potent and dangerous now days, one must be sure that the source of blood is absolutely clean and disease free, this is hard in today's society, but not impossible...I normally bite wherever I wish to drink, the neck if done right is safe, then there's the forearm, the thigh, the breast, or even the hip...
>For me: it feels just...like blood rushing down your throat, but then you get warm and you feel your energy and your body become stronger and more vibrant...
>For her: it feels like her body is being drained, she gets weaker and even dizzy, but that's to be expected...

Eros (sexual feeding)
I think this one is self-explanatory. ;)

i wish some female vampire would feed on me.sigh.

I used to feed off of pretty much anyone but I now only use one, and only occasionally, i don't feel so much bloodlust anymore, i've only ever really liked bloodletting so... it makes me feel warm and full and my mind is usually blank of most thoughts except the most basic, the people who i take from now are willing and loving.

catseye...there is a site called fetlife that has a vamp section, and there are plenty of fem vamps out there seeking donors.

SS, i see your point, but it depends alot on definitions. on that ill just say that there are different definitions of vampires (vampyres, wamyires, umpires...never mind that last one lol), but ill stick to feeding.

if one is a walking corpse (i know they exist ...my exwife was one, im just sure of it! LOL), then blood born pathogens wouldnt be a problem.

if you find that you feel stronger from ingesting human blood tho, and you happen to have a pulse, then there are safety considerations.

infections
diseases
scaring
plus just dealing with the social stigma of it all.

good feeding all
~W~

Jack Daniels or Wild Turkey for me people (in moderation of course.....lol) You wouldn't believe how many people are infected with Hep or HIV nowadays. The idea is to live longer.........not shorter.

I agree that feeding can be a very personal and private thing, but at the same time certain details can be addressed without crossing any boundaries. For instance I personally prefer bloodletting myself. In the times I have had a donor, (and I am very selective), they are always expected to have a blood screening first. Safety first is a must. Also depending on certain ideals of bloodletting there is the potential for scaring if you cut on the donor. No one wants scares, so one must be discreet and careful as to location for such a thing and take the necessary precautions to prevent the scaring if possible. Remember safety always comes first.

As per how it feels to actually drink from another, there really is no way to describe that, it’s sensual, spiritual, and it varies from one donor to the next. I have personally found usually the donors find it erotic, but again it varies. It’s a difficult topic to really bare details on.

My main point regarding the 'Blood' thing, is that those who call themselves vampires, in the traditional non-human living vampire, thinking they are vampires for certain other reasons, should not be either called or feed on the blood if they have the dillusion in their mind that they are immune to anything blood born or related.

As well, leading to other misguided souls into that select path is very dangerous as well. Which is more then likely the "psi" characteristic was born, for those who felt that "bloodplay" was too dangerous and thus created another excuse to be called vampire to begin with.

Of course there are some out there that are naturally immune to anything blood born, but to call them vampire is an understatement. They just don't have any other term to have society call them. Thus, society calls them vampire for lack of any better term.

As a new explorer into Vampiric Realsim, I feel more comfortable asking more experienced members here to direct me to some resourse material to read and go through myself, rather than ask your intimate Feeding exercises.

I see a lot of conclusions made, and would like to help create my own experiences on this topic for myself.

Re: ~Promathia~

If I were you, I would read a few book from Konstantinos, and Kathryne Ramsland. Both have the nessessary information that you may be looking for.

As far as information regarding "feeding" types, and all that stereotypical nonesense, from those who would walk the path of the Strigoii nonesense, I would read the Sanguinomicon, peruse various sites such as psivampire.whatever it is, anything from the sanguinarium site, what ever that is, garbage that is spewed by those who think they are living breathing walking contradictions known as Human Living Vamp"y"res.

Just don't get in over your head relating to any of that HLV nonesense and get sucked in (pun intended) along with everyone else and their pets.

The first paragraph should be taken seriously, the rest is just ranting garbage as usual.

Thank you for the information. Yum!
I'll try not to get wrapped up on the 'feed' thing.
I do not know what "HLV" is.

It feels great! Especially when you sleep after, cause when you wake up... You're "re-bourn" (I'm speaking of Blood-letting)

For those who truely want to know:

The Best Way to Let Blood

Information by Bloodwraith and Neff
Based on a topic originally posted to the Vampiric Community Message Board on 14-15 September, 2002

The safest, easiest, most reliable, non-scarring way to get blood is... a blood letter! These are little boxes with three or four razor blades inside. It is spring-loaded, and when you press the button, the blades come down just enough to get about an ounce or two of blood. They are placed on the underside of the forearm, cut about one millimeter (1 mm.) deep, and do not leave scars. Whilst healing, the marks look like a cat has scratched you. They are amazing.

There are new types, which have a kind of knife in them. They are usually used for diabetic children. They are great, and fully sterile, etc. Look them up by typing in "lancets" on a search engine. Neff came across something called the Tenderlett Lancet (http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/d_06_286.htm).

You can buy loads of different styles, which are all different prices, but the cheapest are probably the best to go to buy although they are the ones which hurt a bit. All the really expensive ones do is hurt less, but the cheaper ones are fine; they hurt hardly at all. (Remember that the people who decide whether they hurt or not are really small children). Bloodwraith recommends that you don't buy them on the net, but go to a pharmacy and buy them, because the pharmacist there will tell you how to get the best results. (You do have to say that your child, little brother, or you (if you are a child) has diabetes, because that's what they are meant to be used for, and the pharmacist will not supply one unless you say that).

So have a hell of a safer life with these; they look like they could be quite a useful and safe tool for sang vampires. Very nifty indeed.

From the following link:
http://www.sanguinarius.org/guide/blood/safe-feeding.shtml

A shred of advice for blood-feeding.
Shoulders and outer thighs give the most blood with the slightest cuts, and tend to heal a little faster as well.