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First let me state: If you are into RPG, movies, book or any other form of vampire lore, good for you- please do not post here.

This question is specifically to those in and around the vampire community. No I am not saying that the participants are not human and no I am not alluding to any powers that are not otherwise seen in nature. Should this topic stray course I will ask to have it shut down- Be RESPECTFUL please! I am posting this purely because of my curiosity, not to mock or make fun of anyone. I especially am interested in the underlining emotions that the individuals feel in direct relationship to their actions.

I want to find out more about the Dance if you would, the courtship of minds, energy and bodies. Of course this topic can be superimposed to several other aspects, such as our relationships and how we react in our world. Any real answers to the questions are welcome. I do ask that each response be done from the role you are most often in.

TO THE PARTNER, victim

What draws you in? Is it the excitement, the allure of charisma and power? Or is it some need in yourself that you don’t/haven’t found an expression for? Is your power in this the resistance you give or do you accept your role? Have you found that you are always a willing victim or does the atmosphere intoxicate your senses to the point you no longer care? Do you willingly return?

TO THE LEAD, hunter

What form of this dance do you prefer? Is it the willing victim or the pure output of aggression as the predator? Even in the apparent victimization to you feel towards those that feed your carnal needs, whether they be of spirit, body or mind? When do you enjoy the dance most? Is it then that a greater connection is made?

TO ALL

How does Vampire Rave relate to your experience? Do you find yourself sharing more with others like you? Or have you found this an effective place to dance? Whether in our true life we all dance in the Masquerade regardless if we see it or acknowledge it. To clarify, yes that is a term in RPG, however this is called a RAVE- a Dance and many here are behind a mask if you would.

Many thanks in advance for your considerations here…

yea i like this place, it feels safe and comfortable and friendly
as for the dance questions and such, im not too sure about that

very nice well thought out thread my dear hugs to you for this.

predominatly the hunter,
one could say it is more sexual in esence in they way one installs a feeling of euphora within the victim.

as a victim i do fight back vicously if i do not feel that the hunter is apropriat or it is just an outright atack.

other than that it is hard te explane if you have not experiance ether for youself .

(it may be a case of unlees you are one that has been involved then you will truely never understan what its like)

cheers

Good question.

As a hunter, I seek out the most challenging of prey, or else there is no hunt and I could go to the grocery store and buy hamburger. It is what makes me feel alive. The hunt.

As a victim, I will fall prey only to the most beautiful and seductive, for I am a beast physically, but the body is a slave to the mind. There fore you must tame my mind. It is a balance fo ying and yang. I can destroy any man I come against, but it is the female (who I could physically destroy) that becomes my weakness and thus my predator.

And as a collective, I am always sharpening my mind to be faster and smarter so I can defeat any that would come against me. This is a safe gathering for us to test and explore each other.

The huntress am I....

When in a relationship, it is a give and take of energy.... when alone, like now, I'll hone on someone and take a little here and a little there from another.

The Rave is a marvelous sanctuary, were we exchange ideas and those teach and those learn...so much here for us all.

From what little I know of it, the dance is a more sexual/erotic thing... But also a show of dominance over the weaker, of ruling.

First off very nice post!! But the type of vampirism you are refering to is the sexual vamp. i am actually a psy so it really doesnt apply to me but a very good question none the less

I am either the hunter or the prey, depending on the stituation and what I will allow. I am more into getting to know people as they are and trying to see if they are intelligent or not.

There are many forms of intelligence. I am interested in connecting with people on a mental level. I do not go for just the physical. If there is no mental or emotional connection, the physical can never happen, because for me it will not be worth the effort.

I will take the lead if my interest is sparked. I most of the time wait and see who will seek me out.

Thanks to those that have responded so far. Your insight is most welcomed.

Phear that is exactly what I am trying to do, put words to something that is normally felt, not spoken about.

PrinceDraven why does this only apply to sexual vamps? It seems to me that even a psy vamp would at times want a deeper connection thus creating the dance. While the element appears to be rather romanticized, isn’t that part of the beauty of vampirism? I do not see how my question was sex oriented- as I was using a metaphor to what I see.

i love this place i think that is somewhere i can chill out with some of the coolest people!!

Well, vampire relationships for me arise when people are in your life without pretense. She comes to your cage. because you are there everynight, and she asks if you want out of the cage, so you run with her, because it is better than being alone.

Vampires are erotic creatures, the psy vampires also must realise that the dom and sub aspect of eroticism throws light on this psychological intoxication. And we all know dom and sub is a very sophisticated interplay between two willing participants.

I think vampire relaitonships that have no committment, just based on the power of the dynamics of the two, the want of need to see ech other again, exist because of insecurity. We fear rejection, and so we enter into a world with no end, because it had no beginning.

I am the hunteress yet the prey also it is all on how I relate to whom I am after or needing at different times ~BUT~ it is always erotic and intelletial at the same time two meeting of the mind as well as the body ~you could say it is a hunger that you must feed on all aspects~~ just very intense for me ~ everyone has there preferrence on how they do the dance as you call it~ which is sorta poetic now that I think on it `UMMM~

Excellent post my dear. I do feel victims are those attracted to the power, the charm, the aggressive natue, the over-powering dominance that the other posseses.
The hunter enjoys this power. They know they have the power over their victum and thrive in that knowledge and in the act of dominance.

Nocturnalgoddess is right, the hunter takes great pride in his or her abilites and more importantly the fact that they work. Knowing that the hunter can isn't the ecstasy, moreover the act itself, watching the victory in the victim's eyes. At least, for me, it is the kill itself and not the knowledge that the victim has fallen to me that is the thrill.

Yeah the only thing I wanted to add, was that my take on vampire relationship dynamics, is that it is ruled by "divine" right so to speak like the old English kings. If the authority of the dom over the sub is sgtrong enough, the relationship is strong. If the authority of the top is weak, then there is no bondage between the two participants, and they will go there separate ways. It is not bondage in terms of the alternative word, but a mental presence addiction because of soul or need for soul. There is so much lacking in life, when that person comes you don't have to merry them, there is a bond that is stronger than a piece of paper, it is a divine right of bondage. However even vampires need to get amrried sat soome point in time, the tax breaks for combining bank accounts make it necessary in the end, otherwise, other than the romantic concept of a wedding the women seem drawn to, I see no reason for marriage. I only have to tell one woman that I love her, and the rest of the world can go to rot.

But being in a vampire relationship where it is bondage, based on authority of rule over another's heart, even the man who has not the need to prove love by marriage, the vampire relationship ends with a ceremony of God, done with a priest, to bind the two love participants, because somehow a man needs to own a woman, so that it is no longer alright to play the field. There is security and sanity in monogamy of a vampire relationship that gets sanctified into legitimacy. It is just a perfect economical machine where all the love you put in you get back, and there are no posers sapping her attention from you.

online dancing wow, it does exist lol

For me as the hunter, it is when a greater connection is made. I always make sure my chosen victim agrees since consent is only respectable in my point of view.

When ever I take someones blood I will own a piece of him or her, and that is where the connection is made.

Really good question btw.

Just wanted to say first of all that I think this is a great topic :D so Kudos for that.


Being the Huntress - As the huntress, it is more of a seductive luring that I use to bring in my prey. I hunt only the beatiful, smart, and challenging. I need my victims to give me challenge while I am hunting them, and means of not giving in so easily or else I get very bored and they become a noninterest to me. I love the feeling of the chase, the adrenaline pumping, the fear in the victim, and then the finale. hehe it is definetely the ultimate.

Being the victim - I do not usually fall easily into a hunter's arms. If one is trying to lure me in and I am not liking it, I am quick to attack and/or destroy who I must. He will have to chase me down if he really truly wants to make me his victim. I like a hunter that is up for the challenge and does not give up too easily.

Great topic Saha!

I am not into the vam[yric lifestyle. I came to the site because I like all things occult.

However, since being here I have met many people that have similar interests and I am proud to have even met a few.

It is a great place to meet people with a "good idea" and little dogma.

Praise be for that, I thought I was the only one for a moment!

I'd have to say as for the dance, I am neither!

I do not hunt, and I'd like to see the person who can make me a victim! :-) (and no, thats not a dare!)

I found this place by accident, but have stayed because I believe there are a number of very intelligent, insightfull, and interesting people here, and I can gain from an association with them, be it in knowledge or insight or otherwise.

But I must say, interesting thread, and thanks for posting it, those of us on the "outside" can get a glimps of the "inside" by peoples responses!

Very good question as I am the preditor, I love the dance the various moves that take form..I used to tell people (guys) I am a shark in a small tank waiting for release here I have gained the realease, but now I also realize I am not the shark but something far darker more savage..I like that my signals are being responded to..I am however gay and although I like women I don't respond to thier signals..I think this frustrates them..Come dance the dance Macabre with me the tango of the soul....LOL

I do not prey on the innocent, but have fallen victom to psy-vamps in the past, since then i have learned to control this and protect myself. I am drawn to this sight as i am drawn to the night. It allows me to express myself in ways I wouldnt do otherwise. I can open up and be myself here and talk to others that share my experiences.

I am the huntress and always been i love the thrill of it all.

I just wanted to note what ARIDAI said in his most recent response to this forum and that was about not preying on the innocent. It has been important to me to live up to that standard as well. I also do not prey on the innocent. It is basically just a moral code of mine. ;)

I agree with Aridai I don't seek the innocent. I don't do the dance with them, I choose to dance with others that are aware of what is happening

I think most who are not vamps are innocent. Yeah there are devils out there, but for the most part, I think they are all sheep otherwise, until turned, so what have we got to hunt after? Vampires are great trees and peeps are little acorns. Vamps have stood the test of time, and acorns have yet to die in order to live, we have to cull the unthinking, there is nothing else on which to feed.

I think female vampires are born, and male ones made. I think it is the females that turn men into vampires.

I don't feel strongly about this though, just something I felt coming out of one of my lucid naps.

But the thought dos have reprocussions on the topic if we see the trend of hunting between the sexes.

Not all the people here on this site are Vampire's...So there are innocents here they might be interested in vampire's per se but many people come here to make this place what it is....

i live for the hunt

Interesting theory Vampyreinthesun99

Very lovely question, well thought out, and well asked.

I myself am always on the lookout for a willing partner. I would not put myself in danger (i.e. blood born pathogens) to feel the thrill of the hunt, so to speak. I also like to have a connection with the person I am drinking from.

As far as the Masquerade, or Dance or whatever you may call it...I simply dress the way I want to be seen...and do according to who and how I want to be seen by and for.

I hope this is an okay answer...it's a little late, and it's a little short.

theory, why it is quite mathematical:

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still trying to figure out how god created eve from Adam's rib

the hole in the theory is if only male vampires can be made, and females born, then who do the male vamps feed on?

But demons allot for various alternative scenarios where there are foolproofs and failsafes, and somehow it is all according to her plan. Women get their way however they do it I don't know, I have to call her every day, and I am getting to like it. An old prospective wife told me she moved out from her man, and I said yeah, that is what a woman has to do, leave a man to see if he'll change for him, icing people is the best way to get them to do your bidding. Women are very good at icing, they seem to understand that we can't live without them. So we change for them...

"whipped" they whisper into the phone

they can't ask for what they want, like in the movie break up with aniston and vaughn, he can't read her signals, like Mikhail was saying...

women have their ways, can't admit what they want but in time if there is love present they get it all. It was like the post I made about the difference between female and male vampires, but a couple of drunks came on and made fun of the idea. I am glad this bright girl ran with this idea. I think although there are no stereotypes in either sex of vampires, there can be generalizations made by the percentage of women or men acting in a certain fashion. Being one way is boring though, life is dynamic and in time it is reflected in how we bahave in liasons. Switch is a popular word. I mean, you can't just dominate without heart, and if you aren't dominating, that means you have to give in, and if you give in then she has got the upper hand, so you ain't no domme any more.

I think there is more role play in vampirism because sex isn't the way we feed all the time, there are other scheduled hungers we rise for that feed us on a different plane. So swithcing roles of vampirism keeps it exciting, luring alluring and then instead of a kiss on the lips we get it somewhere else, at least that is what she whispered into the phone tonight.

I want to know more about women, all women through one woman, I think it can be done. We are different animals running the same race, sometimes she is in the saddle and sometimes I am, it is a more mature look at vampiric activities of give and TAKE

Yes VR is a grest place to feed if you will, weather it be off of someone elses intellect or off there ideas or if it is vise-versa...... as far as being prey it is nice to have someone prey apon you but it is eapecially nice to be the one preying on others....... I guess you could say i am caught in both aspects of it all...... I love to dance both leading and following.....