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This opportunity to find the answer I raise here one quest:
What is awakening and what is transformation. How this can be achieved and what is the importance of this in which field.
I belive awakening is when you become aware of yourself as being more than just a physical being . For me it's when you begin to be more in touch with your higher self / sub conscious . Then litrally you wake up into more subtle states of mind . In dream and astral states you become more conscious of your self , also you can sense the more subtle energies around you . Awakening is becoming enlightend , transforming from a physical being to a more spiritual one , i think .
"What is transformation ? " Do you mean the transformation of awakening it's self , or transformation once awakened ?
I find moonbubble's description to be a very positive and pretty-much down-to-earth way of viewing this question and then answering it in a progressively philosophical and spiritual way. I like it.
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I find this nice start to this important thread and the way it is answered and responded is great.
Honorable Moonbubble, Yes I meant the impact of awakening or transformation after awakening.
Here I meant to say that once person is awaken to its higher self, it ignore the physical body in communication or approaches. But I want in detail that how the awakening helpful in transforming the person into refined entity or kinship. Please put the light on this so that it can be helpful. May there be other meaning of awakening.
Please the masters, please put the light on this subject and help us with your conscious answer.
Agrees; This is going to get messy LoL.
I cannot be certain but awakening seems to involve blood or sex and even some ritual. Thus the boundary between the physical and spiritual is somewhat blurred. I agree it appears to open ones senses to other realms, some die some go mad and some strike a balance. On the physical side most agree it often involves a degree of shaking, blood counts rise to that of a super athelete as Heamaglobin increases to the limit of Human capacity, eye rod counts increase causing photo sensitivity and the skin becomes unable to process UV.
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Honorable AlieNation I think you are speaking about invoking and that is different from awakening. Awakening lead the realm in Balance of mind and the heart beat is very balanced in awakening and no strain on nerve & no extra pressure on blood flow. Even breathe to flow in the rhythm.
In invoking the stimulation and instinct kind of happenings occurs. But in awakening the person is most lighter side of the mind and very balanced.
i do feel an awakening is when someone becomes
aware of who they really are... everyone has some form of
this however... teenagers do when they learn to be individuals...
adults do when they learn what their own personal beliefs
and goals are as well...
but transformations... no... This my just be my personal
opinion... but I dont believe they exists... It is impossible to
completely change someone in such a manner
to where they are a different creature...
if you mean transform as in "turning" that is a complete myth...
either you are, or you are not something....
but this applies to EVERYTHING in life.
Well Venum... if you would like me to seriously attempt to answer this all I can offer you is what my kin believe to be the truth. Our teaching are Asetian and as a result mostly Kemetic in there origins.
The subject of Awakenings & Vampirism is that Vampirism is spiritualism, a state of evolution in ones level of awareness. We believe that vampirism is not a disease or any other form of infection, it is not a condition of biology either - such as a breed or bloodline of human genetics. Vampirism is in fact a state consciousness.
Life is a cycle that repeats itself in ever aspect of nature, we call this pattern of rebirth reincarnation and in every life you work threw the human experience with the soul purpose of learning from the challenges that life has to offer. The soul, spirit, the essence of what you are retains the knowledge of past lives deep within you.
When one reaches a level of enlightenment when the piece of the universal puzzle begin to forge a lasting and consistent level of energy, that essence evolves to adapt to the change. The person begins to experience the higher planes of their being... they can come to the surface as dreams, past life regression in the form of flashes... ext..
Or they begin to notice different traits like empathy of precognition. The term "Awakening" is used commonly to describe the process one goes threw in this stage of consciousness.
British theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking was asked about the the idea of a multidimensional universe and the possibility of a purely energy or a spiritual dimension. During the course of that conversation he was also asked about consciousness he briefly responded by saying...
"The fact that we do have emotions, dreams and a sense of humor means we must exist for another purpose; one that exceeds mere survival; one that is based upon experiential growth and evolution of the soul.".
Science is very slowly beginning to embrace the idea that matter and energy can be one and the same in deferring states. this is an Ideology that has been around for thousands of year in the eastern religions.
Albert Einstein said:
"A human being is a part of a whole, called by us universe, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.
This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task is to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of understanding to embrace all that we are. Once that process begins you begin to awaken and transform.
A great post Severus and one that explains the flashes pre-cog etc. My question concerning the path of the soul concerns the explosion in the general population.If it is true we are souls using human vessels and there lineage, then it is likely we have a common path, since is reckoned most Europeans are in some way related to Julius Ceasar. (you see my point) In which case we are indeed brothers?
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Honorable Severus,
This explanation is splendid indeed. Though the awakening means different term in different belief or paths, I would like to know about the vampirism. Its true that vampirism is simply spiritualism. And I grew upon awakening in vampirism is a state of consciousness. But one quest is there for me. Consciousness itself narrated in the different state. And they are distinct from body, energy, air, mind and intellect. Consciousness when powerful, takes control over mind and intellect. When subconscious grow, the subtle awakes and cause changes. But then how the conscious is linked to vampirism which has definition – “Vampire = who dire”.
Please open me the realm in this thread so that I can grow upon.
And transformation I meant that once awaken person to its higher self (Is that not distinct from all kinships?), how this awareness (High conscious) and knowledge is helpful to that person in refining its present kinship. This should be the aim of the entity and thus this way universal union will be possible. If this state of vampirism is true in awakening, then they could control it through meditation easily. But remember, meditation has its best feature. Meditation removes dire for energies and discipline of consciousness in meditation take person to higher side with non violence to the matters such as flashes of beings and happenings. What ever you said the state of Enlightenment occurs in refined lighter form that awaken person feel every happenings or things very usual and not stimulated as mentioned in kundalini yoga that person feel charged and stimulated. But I think awakening is just opposite of that. Yet awakening transforms us to higher side with our nature turns to adopt the process of awakening. The approach of person to kinship changes from what he was behaving earlier to new state of consciousness.
Here I can state this is most beneficial for human and he can refine its kinship when awaken or can try to awaken by refining kinship. Doing these errors of human is automatically erased. Awaken person’s thought process is very refined on the basis of knowledge of higher self and person who try to awaken too refines his thought process and uses conscious more. He knows that thoughts too are acts and the same way his acts too get refined. He corrects his karma (cause) so that result is satisfactory to take him to higher state. Yes when your karma is right then you will experience higher state of consciousness.
I think I am confusing you.
Thanks Honorable GodofChaos and Honorable AlieNation. Yes in the plane of chaos everything is possible. How can soul concerned to populating the world this way. Soul do not think but it flows in the vehicle of consciousness and consciousness armed with nature and consciousness always travel in the vehicle of energies. Thus soul and consciousness can not be the cause for over population. But the mind gained after adopting the body, can create such mistakes. This is caused due to ignorance by consciousness. But awakened person who uses consciousness do not have these ignorance. Once consciousness strengthens, it takes control over intellect and mind and uses intellect over mind in higher degree of accuracy. This is my opinion only. I did not try yet in this line. But surely after October 2011, I will try consistently in this line and that’s why I raised this thread.
I think awakening goes on in everyones lives all the time , every soul has the potential to have realisations about the nature of self and existance . By asking questions about these things realisations are arived at and these are the steping stones to becoming more awakend . But even if you belive you have a deep understanding of the nature of things theres always so much futher you can go , so theres different degree's of being awakend .
I belive that awakening is simply gaining a deeper knowledge of what constitutes existance . I think everyday consciousness deals with the physical plane , but the subconscious deals with the higher self , and it's in creating this conscious/awake link to the subconscious that opens the gates to higher knowledge.
Ok , transformation , all those words above are a very formal explanation of what i think awakening is , but what the transformation of awakening actually unlocks is much more fun . Dreams are one of the first things you awaken in , you dream as usual , but you maintain your waking consciousness . This alows you to manipulate the dream in any way you please , this is the realm of dream walking and is a very good place to practice breaking the boundries of reality that are imbedded in your mind . Flying , shape shifting , phasing , invisibility , manipulating elements, ect all begin in the dream realms . It,s also possible to walk between dreams . Once your awake in dream you can begin to bring them close to the physical plane then they become more like a OBE (out of body experience) , your conciousness is seeing what is real life , you may often see your self sleeping and are generally in your house close to your body . This can also work in reverse , if you can astrally project you can travel in to dream .
You will also awaken to enegies of other things around you , you may see aura's more clearly , or feel the presence of other astral entities as they are more aware of you aswell . Pre-cognition , previous life flash backs , time slips , telepathy are other things that have happend aswell .
Awakening for a vampire is a different thing aswell , with a different set of objectives .When your of a vampiric nature and you awaken then it,s difficult . I always had this notion that to a spiritually enlightend being one must strive to be a good and compassionate being and give to the world but as a vampire you take . This insatiable will to hunt can make you almost demonic in nature and should be controlled , otherwise you regress into something more animalistic in nature . Doing this you loose the refinement of your skills .
Also if you can become this sort of astral vampire that feeds of sleeping people while in astral form, you become more like a vampiric ghost in nature , feeding off the energies of others may sustain your spirit well after you are dead ( thats just an idea , not tested it yet) . Also this trancending time to experience past lifes is also a possible idea for the longlevity of vampires , if one could exist outside of linear time .
Venum if I may summarise... Vampirism is a condition where the energy it takes to sustain a high level soul or consciousness has become larger than that the shell / body it inhabits. Tack on the abilities one finds with Psi or other forms of vampirism and the need to find outside sources of energy becomes necessary. whether that be the physical consumption of energy in blood from or the best way which is Psi feeding / direct removal of energy from another.
Once this process has begun most individuals awaken over the course of several centuries naturally.
In ancient Egypt the cobra represented pure energy. This is the reason when you look at a statue from that time period most people have a cobra coming out of the center of the forehead... the location of the all seeing third eye. It represented the fact that this individual had reached the highest levels of the human condition.
If the question is can I force an awakening the answer is No, but once the process has begun you may speed up the process by working on and building on the self... the tower within.
The first place to start is with the third eye. Just as your car has a ignition switch which you put you key in everyday to start your car, the third eye is the ignition switch for you vampirism.
Start there and the rest will begin to slowly fall into place.
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Lovely explanations! Yes cobra represents the form of pure energy. The symbol of Kundalini (the same is symbol of medicine) carries snake coiled seven time and after seventh coil stinging eagle make eagle free to fly from third eye.
This same energy flows in gigantic form in and across the universe. This current flows in the form of coil and that’s why snake is important in meditation and yoga. Your conscious can easily see the universal flow of energies as even galaxies flows in the current.
Venum, I noticed it does not state where you are from on your profile and I realize that is privileged information but the culture one grows up in and the influences of that culture will somewhat color what one believes. Just glad to know there is at least one here from my generation, lol. I know of Aset Ka but it is not a mainstream belief system within the vampire community very like the TOV is not. None of the ideas anyone states about vampires could be considered a truth but more of a belief because it cannot be proven.
I consider vampirism as a spiritual and physical state of being. I think because of this state of being one needs to take in more energy than food can provide...energy units are calories and everything has this measurement. I think vampirics burn them faster than they can take them in and those they take from other thngs not in dense matter are used more efficiently. I think it deals with transportation of the energy meridians of the body and frequency of state of being.
If you considered an awakening the aha experience then fine. I knew from when I was about four but I would not call it vampirism per se. No one would back in the fifties really except those in mental health facilities. You knew you were different and had certain needs and fell into certain lifestyles because of it. I became very social even though I was pathetically shy. I needed to be in crowds and I veered toward spiritualism and the occult. I called it "behind the eyes".
Some of these ideas being represented are more toward Eastern concepts and people who consider themselves vampirics don't all have these beliefs and their frame of reference is very different from one to the other. I believe this is why some are attracted to the more physical feedings, not that it is bad but just from a different frame of reference and possibly frequency. I don't see either of these ideas very relevant unless you are looking for more spiritual interactions and explanations for things. Not everyone does and some make up their own world views in the mythos they create for their groups; houses, clans, covens, etc.
Therefore, if you awaken to the idea of what you are aside from human, then I would think that would be the first transforming step and it would depend on the individual as to what path they are led down. I am of the belief that vampires are born the way they are and never made. That's my 50 cents. If you wish to answer me Venum, you will need to write to my profile because most of the time I don't come back to the threads. Bows to you :)
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Deare Majestic Mollidew,
My first awakening was due to my astral when I was reading one holy book and that time thinking over excessively, I was in half sleep mode on my bed my eyes was closed but my conscious was different what I can not narrate or give stress to my mind presently I am weak and I saw my self laid on bed. This I saw from different angels. This realized me that my self is other than my body. This was the first incidence of my start of awakening. And for other knowledge I am gathering the information here.
Well when you mentioned the calories, I would like to mention that calories are due to potential energy burned into kinetic energy in the process of cells perform this function to live and generate other cells before they die. Potential energies are what after we feed on food and drink the intestine process and make potential energy to pipes to carry to cells. And excess energy which can not be used at the time is stored as stored energy (Fat) this can be helpful to bears in arctic region but extra fat is not much helpful to human being.
Psychic energy is different from this above mentioned energy. This is the layer of your grace (aura and other form of psychic energies) and if vampire starves for this, then it take it from outer source. But blood feeding I am very much confused from this form.
As I was graciously asked to take a look at and participate in this forum topic, I shall do so... though my perspective, while not markedly dissimilar from others', generally speaking, is still perhaps at odds in the specifics.
Given what I believe to be the true historical origins of the "Vampire," terms like these generally have specific application to females upon encounter with and bonding to the "Vampire." As all females naturally possess the capacity for unlimited sensual pleasure (hyperorgasmia) as well as unlimited emotional and spiritual potentiation, the "Awakening" (though this term is not used in the original accounts as women were considered "victims," only) occurs when females have those potentials truly "awakened" within them through their intercourse (emotional and then sexual) with a male descendant of the "Fallen Angels" (one of the Rephaim) who truly possesses the "Dark Gift" that has him truly being equal to her.
This is the source of the classical Vampiric "Awakening" euphemistically and inaccurately described in the literature of vampire fiction.
The Transformation that results from such true vampiric "Awakening" is what occurs as a result of such (as described in the Gospel of Philip) "Pure Mating" as defines the purpose of the hyperorgasmic "Sacrament of the Bridal Chamber", the 1st-Century CE equivalent of the far more-ancient (8,000 - 3,000 BCE) hyperorgasmic rite known by the Sumerians as the Hieros Gamos (not the later misogynist and mono-orgasmic Akkadian and Babylonian version of same). The Transformation is the sensual, emotional and spiritual transformation that occurs upon reaching and exploring and having grow within all the incredible potentials finally unlocked as a result of such participation in this most sacred of experiences.
In agricultural terms... the "Awakening" is what occurs when the seed within (the Potentials) are first watered and "awaken" to life. The "Transformation" is all that occurs thereafter and is a lifelong continual progression as that same "seed" grows, sprouts and ultimately bears the same fruit of the "mustard seed" as taught by the historical Jesus.
Of course, prior to that "Awakening," once must first come to recognize the ungerminated "seed," within. And this initial recognition is always an individual process. Whether for and with all females generally or for the male Rephaim descendants in possess of this same "Dark Gift," all must first come to own and understand and develop within such inner potential. However, true "Awakening" to the real powers and fruits of that "Dark Gift" cannot occur until or unless one bonds and communes fully as true equals with another of same capacity.
This will not be understood by the majority, of course. Only the few (mostly females) already aware of their own hyperorgasmic capacities will understand of what I write and be able to precognitively know of the potentials of which I write.
- Upir'
*a nod and a wink to my lord, Upir..;)
The expansion of consciousness is certainly an individual experience that must be recognized by one's innate perceptions internally, as that mustard seed of our souls culminates, and externally in reference to how we relate to others on a multidimensional levels of spirituality, dreaming, and interaction. How can I expound upon Upir's excellent summary of vampirism as a whole? I shall try...:)
In discovering expanded awareness of oneself and ascending into other realms of knowing that we are potentiated for far greater experiences as a whole, it is limiting to concieve vampirism as being asexual and demonic in nature as "feeding" from another is considered damaging in some sense, whether we speak of sanguinarian ideals or those of a pranic or sexual aspect. It stands to reasonable minds that in taking a part of grace from another is inherent to have a negative result on the individual being "victimized" by the vampire.
However, if true potentials are discovered and developed within individuals whose perceptions are expanded on all levels of sensuality and are found meet in another also fully potentiated, then "feeding" is not an experience of taking from another and not giving back...it is an equal exchange of energy that feeds the other and thus creates an avenue of "growth" between two equally-yoked partners.
In Awakening and Transformation, what yet are we speaking of if not expanded awareness or consciousness that defies our limiting definitions of what we deem as "normal?" I've written of sensory perceptions already in other threads, but understanding these differences inherently composed and realized within individuals is perhaps a step closer to the whole of our humanity in realizing our truer potentials in affecting the world around us.
Is conscious awareness limited to those who are considered "normal" physically or mentally?...I being epileptic, have a certain perception and expanded awareness of my own consicousness and thus evolved in my own spirituality and precognitive abilities regardless of the fact that my brain, physically, is not a "normal" one...and what is normal?
Here again is another wonderful article I found expressing that note from The Spiritual Anatomy of Emotion...but then again, cross-references can be googled at any time on the subject matter if one has a righteous mind to do so.
"What is Normal?"
"Autism, as currently understood, is not a single condition: it's a group of disorders with behavioral, language, and cognitive symptoms that bear some relation to each other. Asperger's disorder, as a mild form of the condition, is thus one of several autism spectrum disorders (ASDs). What people with these conditions have in common are many of the following (to varying degrees).
*challenges with language and imagination, such as being extremely literal.
*difficulty recognizing nonverbal communication (tone of voice, facial expressions, and so on)
*motor skill problems, such as clumsy or uncoordinated movements.
*repetitive or restrictive patterns of thought and behavior
*impaired ability to empathize and carry on social interactions.
*abnormal sensitivity to sensory stimuli, such as light, sound, smell, texture, and taste.
No doubt you noticed the last bullet point especially (Additionally, it should also be noted that, for reasons that are as yet unclear, men are four times as likely as women to have an ASD.)
Certain people you know are likely to qualify. Engineering, physics, mathematics, music, art, computing--speculation is that these and other professions are home to at least some, possibly many, people with Asperger's disorder or another ASD. Historically, figures such as Isaac Newton, Albert Einstein, and Vincent van Gogh might well have been somewhere on the autism spectrum. In our own time, the late chess champion, Bobby Fischer probably had a severe form of the condition; anohter Apserger's candidate might be Microsoft founder Bill Gates. Having an ASD seemingly presents no barrier to success.
Estimates are that ASDs affect from one to three people in five hundred, with the incidence being far greater for children the younger they are. As many as one out of every 150 children born today may fall somewhere on the autism spectrum. That's double the rate of ten years ago, and the diagnosis is increasing 10 to 17 percent each year. Such an increase prompts many observers to declare it an "epidemic." What's unclear is whether the prevalence of ASDs is truly increasing or whether the difference can be explained by a wider awareness of these conditions, more and better studies, and a greater number of parties with a vested interest in diagnosis and treatment. Roy Richard Grinker, a George Washington University professor and parent of an autistic child, views the rise in diagnositic rates as "a sign that we are finally seeing and appreciating a kind of human difference that we once turned away from and that many cultures still hide away in homes or institutions or denigrate as bizarre." Morton Ann Gernsbacher of the University of Wisconsin says amen: "Abnormal is defined only in relation to normal, and the definition of normal, like beauty, often lies in the eyes of the beholder."
"This is a critical realization. Human differences, including those that incline some people to high sensitivity, fantasy-proneness, or dissociation, are a source of knowledge about who we are biologically and how we've evolved as a species. Denigrating or dismissing people who are in any way autistic is as shortsighted as neglecting or deriding individuals who claim clairvoyant, precognitive, or otherwise anomalous perceptions. The thick-to-thin boundary continuum could be as useful a concept as the autism spectrum is describing personality types and the neurobiology on which they stand. What is needed is to put aside our preconceptions and to look and listen with an open mind."
What then can we learn from this article and the contributions of those with experience of expanded awareness? Is it inherent that our evolution as a species relies solely upon the individual realizing their own potential?...pehaps..and yet perhaps that realization is also dependent upon the interaction and connectedness between likened inidividuals with spacial differences in their sensory perceptions of those things outside the "norm."
In awakening to other conscious realities, are we not changed inherently by the transformative quality of being integrated in our lives by those individuals whose cognitive perceptions are a presentation of altered conciousness as a whole, a part and parcel of their existence? Being epileptic, I do not percieve the world as others, just as a child or adult with Asperger's or other forms of disease affecting or altering consciousness does not mold notions to preconceptions or limits their view of the inner and outer world around them by what society deems as "normal."
In pursuit of awakening to higher or altered states of consiousness, it is possible for individuals who seek to develop their fullest potentials can do so, but only in releasing preconceived notions of what actually "is" perception of deemed reality...and only then can one assimilate a transformative quality that permeates the body, the mind, and the spirit. It is within that journey that we search for equality and wholeness, not just individually, but in a mutual sharing with others who obtain likewise, the cultivation of that mustard seed buried deep within.
I find the above posts by UpirLikhyj and SilverHawk to be most inspiring .
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Deare MLord Silverhawk,
Thou did art beautiful analytical vision on M’Lord UpirLikhyz’s post. I loved and grown upon this and new realm opened to me.
*a deep curtsy to my lord Venomstings...:)
Thank you and I am glad you liked it...^^
Sincerest Blessings,
M'Lady Silverhawk ;)
Simply, the awakening is understanding one's nature and the transformation is acting upon that understanding.
In my opinion Doru's answer is the best one.
Venum, from what frame of reference are you asking these questions? You seem to be asking from a perspecitive of India and their beliefs which some spiritualists have blended into their views. Also many of the new age ideas have accepted reincarnation which is not a western viewpoint exactly. It has been accepted in some circles but not all including the idea of the serpent rising of the kundalini or that it even exists. I sort of take all of this as a faith based idea and I am not against it but I think it is better to state your ideation before asking a question and not assume everyone knows what you are meaning. Also if you are refering to the vampire.
An awakening of self can be at any age. If you are meaning as to your true spiritual identity or higher self that is a little hard to do since that is the basic idea of Hermetics to find your higher self or as Crowley put it, realization of "the "Silent Self", representative of one's truest divine nature." You also find this in Spiritualism and I am not meaning the secondary definition you find in the dictionary that merely means a spiritual path but the actual movement. They often talk of the higher self but it gets very complicated because in Spiritualism the higher self is the accumulation of all of yourselves via reincarnation, past, present and future lives all similtaneously incarnating in time which is not linear. Therefore some are in the physical and some are not. These incarnations at times come into harmony with each other and this is when one experiences deja vu. I feel when your spiritual side is in harmony and you start having realization of all you have been or will become then there is spiritual transformation and you no longer need to be physcal. It is the awareness of one's true self. IMHO
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Thanks Deare M’Lady Silverhawk.
Thanks Deare M’Lord Doru, I loved the information and the awareness involved in thy answer. This yours lovely answer.
Thanks Deare Majestic Azuredark, for thy master comment. I did like to gather as much as info and precious knowledge on awakening and transformation on the base of that awakeing here in this thread so that we can grow upon that. I loved thy comment and vision on the matter. Naturally till then I knew only one type of awakening and that of human kin. Well the kundalini I do not follow coz its not the way to me the road of awakening. Kundalini is the way to achieve for desired person of the power. I do not desire the power, I desire the growth of my true self and my awareness towards my true self and The Supreme. Well energy in any form is welcomed may it be in the form of rising like snake through charkas coz charkas formation is only like that, may it be Christ energy all are the different name of commonly energy. Well medicine symbol of caduceus and caduceus itself stated how the impact of snake & falcon is intervened in western mind. This is informative and not the argument to your precious master comment I do respect the most over my opinion. I really love thy comment its full of awareness and guiding.
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Thanks Deare M’Lady Severus for putting light on the matter.