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I do not mean to start an argument, I simply wish to know what other's views on Vampirs is, what a vampir means to them, if any thing?
Since I ask for your opinion I suppose it is only fair that I give you mine. Well than, my view is that a vampir is truely not so different from humans. Sure, they have more strength, are able to access more of their brain than humans, and some require other means of nutrition. But, they still have lives, they still hold treasures, and have enemies. People may think 'oh, how great to live forever.'
Have you really ever thought about it? I mean really, truely put thought into it, would it really be so great? To see every one you know and love grow old and die, to see the world change so quickly and profoundly it's all most like a dream. I don't rely on folk-lore, I believe that was partially due to supersticous people in a time of darkness, and partially because it is a way for the inhumans to protect themselves. Why tell some one every thing about you, knowing they would only use it against you, better to tell myths.
So, I believe that vampires do age, just rather slowly, their mentality is very great, having hundreds of years of wisdom, while their bodies age as a humans. I do not think they egnite with flames in the sun, but do have sensitive skin, as it is pale. I do however believe that they need blood, some of them any way, there are different species, as there are different snakes, different cats, and wolves, yet they are similar in ways to each other. I do not believe they are all evil, as not all human is bad. I think they all hold true to their religions, whereever they originated from. Why would some thing evil wish to help, to care for others? Well ha those are my thoughts on vampirs.
Please, share yours (and I ask again should you have negative thoughts on the matter, than to keep them to yourself, this is a civil discussion.)

actually i once had a short contact with a vampire here in Portugal... this is a strange and hard to believe story, but i don't care in what people say.. if i say to you that i lost a leg in a train accident but i probably dance batter than you, would you believe? well, the part of the accident its true, the part of the dance we'll just have to wait and see if we can prove it to each other... and what if i said that i played ouija board 18 years ago, and because of that i gained some awesome powers that the spirits, lets say "lend" it to me? would anyone believe that? well, this i can prove also... what powers one may say... a supernatural strength for my type of body... i'm really slim and i was able to beat guys 3 and 4 times bigger than me in the iron arm... i could see auras without any practice at all... they just kind of activated that to me, i don't know how it was... after only two months of playing the damn thing, i was able to hear and see spirits clearly... i was able to for example, ask them where was some friend and they answered and i appear in the place the spirits told me where he was and surprise surprise... he really was there! this was so amazing to me, that i did this allot to the point that i phoned some friends and told them where they were at x time or x hour... and this is a proven thing, just play, do the same that i did and then you'll see... let me just say that the consequences were real bad for me later because of that... but that's another story...

about the vampire... it was at night, near a river in a totally inhospitable mountain near a village with only one street and very few houses... totally natural this kind of scenario here in Portugal... actually my hole country seems a village that stopped
in time... damn :S (better move to London while i still have time :D lol)

actually there was two vampires, but i only saw one, i know that because he said that... he was male and the other one, which i didn't see, was a female... i'm not gonna tell why i was there or how i suppose that i could see one if i went to that place, because that would be a really long story... moving on, he was tall, long black hair
with awesome strange green/yellow eyes... he was wearing some victorian style clothes... we just talk for a little while and then he went away... he told me a few things and showed me two things too... he showed me that he could levitate for a while and that he could move real fast... this was not to prove anything, he just did that in front of me... i asked him if they could fly and he said that they couldn't, just levitate for a while and they can jump much higher than us, but that i did not see...

i asked him a few things which i can't remember, but there are a few things i remember well... why they were there, fist, he doesn't spoke in portuguese, only english... he said to me that they ran away (he and the female vampire that wasn't there) from England because they were being hunted by other vampires... it seems that they had a conflict with them... and he said some interesting stuff also, he said that he could not do anything to me because i had some kind of mark forbidding him to touch me, and he told a story of one time that he was in a vampires party, they were having some kind of orgy or something like that, and then in the middle of the party, coming from nowhere Jesus appeared to them and told them some things that he did not tell me... he said to me that his powers came from 7 powerful demons who lend him the power... but he still had hes own mind and will... and he said to me that even with the demons giving him the powers and such, he doesn't knew what to think about hell or heaven, and that he never saw an angel... that the only thing he saw, was Jesus in that long ago party he was having with the other vampires... he spoke a few more words, but then he went away real fast between the trees of that mountain...

Unbelievable isn't it?!!! yes, indeed... Do you wanna know if they are still there? well i really don't know... i never went there again... probably they are... since they ran away and are hiding themselves...

Hmm, that is very intriguing, I must ask, how long ago was this Malakh?

BelladonnaBCera 15 years ago... i was 19 years old at that time... :)

AlieNation --- yeah right... claro que sim :P

Hmm, well just keep an eye out, some times a formal hello can be nothing but a hoax to get you alone, just because you have a mark would not stop some. (trust me on that one ha)

since i am a vampyre i am sensitive to sunlight although i dont combust in sunlight whether you believe it or not some of us need blood and some of us need prana or the life force of other though i am a young vamp it is sometimes easier to hunt than ask for the things u need for me i've always been the type that likes to hunt even during the day it sometimes makes it easier but not always even as as a young vamp i grew up misunderstood by not only my family but by teachers and students and i might add most of us prefer the night than the daylight.

as for my skin it is pale it is very sensitive to sunlight and one such as me gets burns from the sun very easy but other than that i can look like a regular young woman but having some psychic ablitites i was born with not just unusal for my family but we live close knit even though i am different.

i do not claim to be perfect cause humans as well as all entites are not we all laern different but i have learned faster than most and i have some degree of strength but but dont use it to harm others if i feel i have to protect someone i will do it to the point of hunting the thing or person down that wants to do harm

anyways... for vampyres we do age slowly but it is so slow that we look years younger than we really are we also can have kids if we wish but we do so if we wish but if we do the child i believe will have the vampyre gene usally we do not like human interference with our children as they are as misunderstood as we adults.

growing up as a vampyre does have it advanteges as does our family although my family has shunned the vampyre as a myth i have not though i have veiwed my life from a different veiw than most but i have always remaind different from my family because of the vampyre gene in my blood though my family is mostly human i have viewed my life as an vampyre and have had the taste of blood not that i have always wanted animal blood such as when my family has a steak but sometimes i take some human blood but not as often as you might think the first time the vampyre has blood it is very much a sensual thing but you do not kill the person or creature you have contact with because it is against the law.

we vampyres enjoy our familars and see them as not just family but as an helper but if we hunt we do not take them with us for fear of harming them but when we come home we are able to relax and maybe do chaos magick with these special creatures though not all of us have the same religon we do eventually see things in a new way and hopefully you will see thing in a new light

Vampires are such a broad and diverse subject that you can really add in just about any classification or characteristic and it will fit. To me, a vampire is just a human with slightly altered capabilities, and a set of liabilities to compensate. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch and so on. But the type of vampire a person resonates with speaks volumes about that person's belief structure, life, and feelings about themselves. Whether it's the slavering revenant, the workaday vampire, or the darkly seductive angel of death in the shadows, it's what "your" vampire means to you that matters.
My own personal vampire is a powerful force for good, but capable of doing tremendously evil things in its service. And we like it just fine that way.

There is no more mystery about a modern day Vampire than there might be around someone who isnt.Anyone can create their own mystery.I think they are people who have an affiliation for certain things in life and choose to live a certain way.As far as any attributes or capabilities? None that I have seen or come across.In fact,I have seen exactly the opposite..Sickly and a little on the weak side.I have seen many and none looked any younger than I. It seems that many a "vampire" have health issues..more than most to be honest.

But anyway,I sure wish I could say something different ...that the mysterious Vampires is anything more than a metaphor ,but from what I have witnessed to date..and thats alot,I cannot.

In my research,and following the research of many others, the vampire actually came by its supernatural strength through modern film and literature. Vampires, by historical writings, were not know for their strength. They normally attacked only weaker victims, such as children or the elderly. They never attacked a group of people for fear of being overcome by a "human".
I guess because someone believing theirself to be one would spend a lot of time in the shadows looking for a victim would make them seem mysterious to some?

yes we can be anything but we know who we are and we stay pretty much hidden though you could try to find us but we are illusive to many people we keep pretty much to ourselves and we protect our secrets from many though you could probally find us we try to remain hidden for many reasons such as discrimination of our beliefs or for the way we do things in our lives.

Without knowing the type of vampire you are discussing my thoughts would be limited. Nonetheless, history would divulge magic and ceremony associated with ancient vampires.

Many of the historical vampires didn't even leave the grave but did a sort of projection of themselves to prey on the living. Most thought they took blood because when exhumed they often saw blood on the lips of the suspected vampires. They didn't do any sort of embalming in most places way back and they didn't understand the dying process. You hear most of this stuff coming out of certain areas where they weren't allowed to burn bodies as they did in some of the other cultures but the word "vampire" has become very loosely used and most of what people know or talk about is ideas from fictions books of films. There are so many superstitions that it is hard to separate what is hidden within them if anything. If one is talking about the modern community, that is an entirely different topic.

The stories are handed down orally to begin with and they take on a life of their own. There is no way to know where the superstitions started or why but there are some researchers that think they know and they for the most part, don't agree.

That is absolutely correct Asphalt.There is actually a lot of info on it too.

For me,the mystery is in discovering the truth..where and why these stories prevail thruout the years and and in the fact that many still claim in light of discoveries but will never offer to lend credence to those claims.
But like everyone,I always love a good story,so I really never tire of hearing them.

Can everything everyone here believes all be true... even when contradictory?

I am encouraged that Belladonna (the topic originator) understands that fiction and Hollywood are not good sources for better understanding who and what the historical "Vampire" might have been or still is. She is able to understand that there is nothing historical that depicts vampires as unable to abide sunlight or who must drink blood, etc. In fact, there is far more historical evidences that speak quite convincingly to the opposite of such views.

It is encouraging to discover that every once in a rare while there are others who don't blindly and unquestioningly accept the status quo view.

my views on vampires....

two times...living and dead.

the living ones are people that require an external source of some sort of energy. this energy can be ambient, cant be taken directly from another, can be gotten from blood or sex....etc.

the dead (undead) is the ghost of a dead person that rises from the grave, and energizes itself from the life force of the living.

and thats my views.
~W~

There is a lot of views that people will speak of when it comes to vampires.

But most will not sit there and spill their words or thoughts as most of the time the ones that will respond to something like this are real.

Now most of the time the real ones will not come out into the due to the fact that you don't know how people will react to that,they might accept it or they might run from it. some will even try to kill off what is real just to keep their normal life going.

but I know for a fact that my views could go many ways and could end up setting off a few things,I have seen and done a lot of things that I wish i could forget but I can not. but I will not bore you readers with that. Now as for the views of the mysterious vampires.

Just keep in mind there is alot of them that like to pretend and think they are something when they are not. that's what you have to look out for. I am sorry Im ramblinig I do not mean to but I tend to think and type at the sametime.

I know i did not give a good view or what not but I do hope what I have said here makes sense to those that understand it.

there is sense to it silentkiller, but some that are real and that do respond dont care. i do think the real ones wont bother to argue with the ones that declare them to be fake....that would only amuse them (at least i think it would).

so it is certainly possible at least.
~W~

I know that many have in the past..argued here about it.But really,there isnt any sense in that because ideas of what a Vampire is is too ambiguous.All anyone can really do is offer an opinion on what Vampire means to them.

Most would find it a source of amusment, Lordwolf, but as you can see, I myself find it some what interesting, to know others' views but my own. Other views than what I have been taught, experianced, live by, to get to know others' minds, etc. Ha and thank you kindly UpirLikhyj for your compliment ^.^

I think it differs what real you live in... n this real Vampire are just like humans... Everything you say is true about them.. except for the living hundreds of years thing... i don't think that is true... But I'd have to see for my self... I'm only 20, and my Mom is going on 49.. So we still have a long way to go...

In my opinion a kin which attach to other kin and gets energy piped into the self and cant leave such charm just like addict to intake energy from other kin, is vampyre. such vampire seeks the kins for intake of energy only when other kin surrender or submissive to this vampyre kin.

In my opinion vampire is dominant to normal human kin.

lol If that was true Venom, we wouldn't have vampyr hunters or tards with weapons going out to destroy those they believe to be vampires. They are seen as nothing more than an energy nussiance apon man to substain themselves. Rather humans with lack of control over their energetic needs.

Now from what the original poster said, that vampires have more strength and use more of their brains? I have to disagree. That's more BS being tossed around the net as fact, yet where is this truth? Where is this fact?

As far as people who claim to be vampyr that i have found, claim many traits about themselves which are various surprisingly.

Some do not have a sensitivity to light. Some have past life memory recall. Some don't have to feed as often as others. Some feed only because it's enjoyable to do so. Some make claims to things, while another doesn't.

So with that said, each person is unique. There is no ONE true answer.

Chasedbywolves,your statement"Rather humans with lack of control over their energetic needs." ?I hate to say this because I really dont want to offend anyone,I really dont.But I would absolutely agree .
And like you,I have seen, contrary to claims, evidence indicating that Vampires arent really very...healthy.

i have to agree with Lordwolf they need or feed on energy whether it be from blood itself sanguinarian or ambient psy
ive known both and the true sanguinarian i have known reminds me to an extent of malakh's story there was raw power eminating from him power that if he so chose could lend for lack of a better word to others no matter others opinions i find them intrigueing

TJ.The power you describe,would you say it was anything like what some people exert? What I mean is,people can intimidate others at times..was it anything like that?Like you , Bella and others,I find everyone's opinions and experiences really interesting .

i will say this personally about myself that i dont need to feed very often and that i have a sensitivity to light but i also have had experice with others of my kin who have to get prana by going through the mall taking in ambient energy of people while they arent paying attention and sometimes going to the extreme and harming someone even if they have a mark on their body but as for me i have some psychic abilites that most humans wouldnt understand and that is a reason in itself to not give my name or anything else for that manner due to the fact humans are not only afraid of us but what they fear they will try to destroy and that in itself is enough for me to keep myself hidden from those that are not family or friends thats not to say that i am totally afraid of people but am very cautious about where i go and when i feed i erase the persons memory of the attack as well as my own to make sure i dont attack the perso again if i have a memory of their blood so even if i tried to remember it wouldnt be impossible for me to attack that person again but i also sometimes remember but not always so it makes it easier for me to leave when i need to but as always i sometimes will for my own puposes erase others memory to make sure i cant be tracked down but thats another story

I have said it before, and ill say it again.
I am a vampyre.

Whether you choose to believe me or not is your choice.

I have some "powers" or heightened abilities.
But I am also a person. Not a bloodthirsty monster.

I go to school.
I love music.
I ride horses and go rock climging.
I'm looking at colleges at the moment.
I'm ordering my first pair of UGGs today to keep my feet warm when I go to Ireland on an exchange program next month.
I have a job.
I like to hang out with my friends, etc, Etc.

On the outside, I am no different from anyone else. Yeah, my mum calls me "her dark twin" because I love dark folklore, but so do alot of people.
But it is a constant struggle to keep the "secret"

Society is not as happy a place as VR.

Vampchica,would you mind sharing these with us please ?As many,if not most normal peeps have heightened abilities and powers also.I am wondering where any differences might be...thanks in advance.

"I have some "powers" or heightened abilities."

I would also like to know how someone can say that "vampires" have heightened senses, or abilities, faster/stronger or access more of their brains than average people without any evidence what so ever for making such assumptions.

I think what most people tend to overlook is the fact that the only thing that truly defines a "vampire" is someone that has some kind of energy deficiency.

Everything else is just ludicris unless one can point out those facts with a little more logic. Otherwise, people will take such accusations with a fine grain of salt.

we have hightend senses though we try to live our lives in relative secret but we are out there but as to myself i prefer to call my senses what they are unusal and sensitive though my age is relativly young even if i seem a bit older i feel that most humans dont realize we can seem older than we are though that has been the case with me for many years i had little time for my childhood i lived within a family that was from old europe so i didn't have a easy time with so many expectataions put on me i didn't have a normal child hood as a kid i was responsible for my abilites and as such had to learn to take care of myself but i had the help of a wonderful father who understands what i am even if he didn't expect it but thats a whole other story in itself

"I think what most people tend to overlook is the fact that the only thing that truly defines a "vampire" is someone that has some kind of energy deficiency."

Chased,I believe I would have to agree with this statement as it seems to be the only real consistency despite all other differences.
Thanks TJ,do you think you could possibly think of a way to describe it?

Hey Vamp,earlier you said that Vamps age slower,yet you say that vamps seem older? Would you mind clarifying that a little bit for me please?I dont think I understand the contradiction.

Thanks.:)

The question is what alters the person is it just spiritual or is it blood...V5...a virus or some other genetic alteration.
This video shows how proteins get altered in the nucleus of cells and it then spreads through the body.
The music and animation are worth the watch anyway.
Any body noticed physical change, light intollerance, hair loss...night vision? Dance along, here maybe why.

certainly i have a bitof wisdom that makes me sound older than my real age but i look younger than my real age which i will say is 23 but look to be 18 in my life i have been asked for identifacation when i have bought a lottery ticket which didn't take me by suprise i showed got the ticket and went on my way laughing cause they didn't think i was 18 or older but then i also have been in a state where i seem older than 23 when people look at me in a picture thats small i can look a little older but then again as i said i need to take new pictures anyways but as for the fact that i sound older than i am i had to grow up pretty quick and i've made a few mistakes which have almost got me kicked out of my home and then some and i had to quickly adjust my additude and learn when it is my place to do things thats not to say i haven't taught people to learn from their own mistakes not from someone elses mistakes and i have a lot more to learn as for my health i am healthy with no energy deficency but maybe i might have anemia which i will talk to the doctor about in my next visit though you could say that is unhealthy but it runs in my family and there is stuff i do to counteract it which is to put more iron in my system stuff such as chocolate help i have higher energy though i personally take care of myself go to the doctor when i need to and stay physically active though sometimes i struggle but in the end i manage to live in a helathy way take whatever i need such as vitamins and medication if nesscary but that i know can seem like a problem but i do try my best to keep myself healthy and happy and thats my secret to my personal achivement right now

O_O are you suggesting that Vampirism might be a form of AIDS? There are a couple versions of V-5..one is a complete ly fictional vampire virus ,and the other is related to the AIDS virus.If this is the case,vampirism would be considered a disease..and that might actually make some sense because heightened hearing,enhanced startle response, ,sensitive to light etc..

But we arent debating whether it is real or not in this thread,but simply posting opinions as to how we feel about them,so I wont go into all the details of either.

Oceanne, it is not aides haha far from it I might say. Chasingwolves, tell me, have you considered that perhaps Creatures are real? Throuhought all of history, there have been claimes of vampir sightings, werewolf, werecat, so on. Has there not? What should you say if a person of a different, isolated world came to claim that there were no such thing as human beings? And that, if there were they would not be allowed, they would be killed, shunned? Would you not do as we have, would you not get defensive, yet keep secretive for fear they would keep their word? I am sorry but consider being in another's shoes besides your own, we are a race as well, just...different, misunderstood. Please again, every one, won't you watch your tongues, spite some may get offended? (as I asked in the beginning)

Oceanne I am not sure, V5 was fictional but the secret ...I believe, was that these rumours started long before the fictional writings. The changes at a celluar level are in my view partly caused by a strange minute viral type of infection that has a platform in a dark matter dimension. Partly physical but like an Iceberg, mostly hidden.

I believe in paranormal existance. But do not believe in vampyre existance. coz animal and insects only have dependancy on blood. human forms are human erred taste of having vampire life style or addiction and not else.

No,you are correct,Bella,it is not aides.But again,it is related to AIDS,so I am afraid not as far as you might believe.In fact,V5 is related to several viruses. The Flu virus and the HIV virus being two of them. V5 is not the HIV or flu virus but it works in the same way when infecting its host .V5 indicates an entry region,for this type of retrovirus,thus the name. And so yes,this is the real V5.



If you would like to read a little on it,I am glad to provide something to start..


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18036244

AN,about the same time they were looking for an AIDS vaccince.Things were super hush hush because the competition was off the charts(consoder the implications!) so everyone was very secretive about many of the findings.But you know how things can leak soin the end,the fiction wasnt really that far off the real story.
Its suspected this virus ,while fairly new in the medical community,wasnt new to the human race...they think this virus been around for about 63 million years.
But again,as per Bella's request,Im really only in the thread to post my personal views,I only wanted to clarify what I was talking about when I responded to your post.:)

And your post also brings up a point..if Vampirism ends up being the result of some virus,I feel that much of the lure and mystery of being a Vamp will be out the window and people who are vamps in that sense,will be seen as simply people with a disease..

BelladonnaBCera, humanity have always put a label on everything that it SEES but does it make it accurate? Not always. There are people that catch things on video, take pictures of things etc that they cannot explain and there have been many cases where things have been debunked.

I personally have never seen anything as far as "Were" anything goes and even if i did, i wouldn't take it as face value.

As far as Creatures go, there's creatures everywhere. That's a given. What exactly does that question mean specifically?

Why are we defending something that has never been proven to exist?

Granted I would gladly take my words back if i was ever shown something to change my mind, so i guess until then, i'm very much entitled to what i said previously.

V5 / V-5 / VRH-5 .... These are fictional viruses created for a TV show titled Ultraviolet.
And,

K-17 / RV17-KB ... This is another fictional virus created for a show titled Reign of Darkness.

On another note,here are some other views on the mysterious Vampire.This was taken sometime ago from a site and I had stuck it away in my files for future ref.I apologize,but I cannot remember the site name or address,but just know,I did not write this,but I think I will post his because it represents a different perspective on this subject..


A Few Opening Words
It is very, very important when trying to contact, talk to, chat with, or otherwise "seek" out vampires on the internet to use common sense and lots of caution. There are FAR too many people - all very much human - who use this desperate need as a way to prey on easy victims. Everything from rape, violence, kidnapping, to even fraud and theft are real and dangerous consequences for not playing it safe. Criminals like this know that the people looking are desperate, needy, hopelessly lost in their drive to find vampires. That's what makes it so dangerous.

Criminals will use the seekers own desires against them. Twisting the truth to be whatever the seeker wants, luring them into a false sense of security and getting the seeker to give out personal information including location, address, real name, phone number, etc. This should NEVER be given out over the internet. You don't ever walk up to strangers on the street and tell them who you are and where you live, right? So why do it online?

I have a well-known and popular site. People know me. I'm part of a large community on several sites and forums. Yet, in all that time, I've never given anyone my name and address out. I've never told anyone where to find me, who I am, or how to contact me offline. Why? Because I know and understand the dangers of the internet. If even I don't tell this and I know a lot of people and have been apart of this community for three years now, why should you give your information out? BE CAREFUL and read this to know what to look for as red flags when dealing with people who make claims they can help you online.


Knowledge is Your Power
First: Make sure you know fact from fiction. Read through the site to learn what is and what is not. If someone tells you something out of a Anne Rice novel or a vampire movie-RUN AWAY! Don't talk to them. They are trying to scam you. There are no such things as vampires straight out of stories.

Second: Know the REAL dangers and predators out there. The human predator, child molester, the sexual predator, the predator looking to get money in the form of an investment, or gifts, or cash, all know how far some people will go to meet a real vampire-don't be their next victim. They know what many would do for the chance to become a vampire. They convince their prey it is they who can grant them these dreams, give these gifts of life and youth and in the end, it is the victim who looses so much, sometimes even their lives. These are the real predators, these are humans and you could easily be their prey.



If anyone says anything like these items below in their emails, posts, or profiles, RUN AWAY!
At best, they're trying to scam you, at worst it could cost you your life!


* The terms "Coven", "Chosen", "Childer", "Kindred", "Sire" or any other term from role-playing games (especially White Wolf's Vampire: The Masquerade)

Such as: I am of the Kindred or I am seeking a new Childer to join with me in my eternal night.
* Any type of "clan" or "house" names. (Common roleplaying ones include: Tremere, Gangrel, Venture, Nosferatu, Brujah, Assamite, Ravnos, Malkavian, Samedii)

Such as: I am a Tremere vampire of the House Darkblood. or I am a vampire of the clan Gangrel.
* General, fictional titles or terms like Lord/Lady of ____, Order of ____, Prince of _____, King/Queen of ____, vessel (means a human that is fed upon), herd (a group of humans fed from by a particular vampire, usually voluntarily),

Such as: My Sire was the Prince of the City. or I seek a human servant to be part of my herd. or I am the High Lord Ashamir, House Moonshadow.
* People who are obviously playing or pretending based on role playing games, fiction, movies, or stories. Other forms of pretending are a bit harder to tell but usually you can tell by their profile, attitude, or description-especially as you talk to the further

* People who try (and usually fail) to speak in mediaeval or "Olde English" style.

Such as: Thou are beautiful to thine eyes. or Wouldst thou come with me unto eternity?

* Someone with a fat and overly done/overly descriptive profile, including self descriptions fitting "classic" vampires of myth: tall, thin, pale, with long, straight hair usually dark or blonde. Eye description of other than human eye colors such as gold, red, purple, and sometimes even striking green.

* Archaic, historical or gothic clothing descriptions generally indicate a non-real vampire or as likely, a younger teenaged person playing a role of an "immortal" vampire.

* Anything else that's blatantly directly from a movie, book, or legend.

* Anything by Anne Rice. Any names like Lestat, Louis, Akasha, Marius, Claudia, etc.
* Dramatic and overplayed talk or "love" of 'vampiric' cities like New Orleans or New York.

* Anything having to do with Dracula, Dracul, Order of Dragons/Dracul, Vlad, Vlad the Impaler, Vlad Tepesh (Tepes), Transylvania, Wallachia (Wallachlian), Castles, or ancient holds, etc.

* People who claim they eat no food, or drink no water. That they only have blood and nothing else.

* Anyone who not only claims to live on blood alone, but who says they drain their victims dry, drink someone until death, or must kill to survive.

* People who say they never "rise" before sunset. People who say that they don't go out before dark. People who say they sleep in coffins.

* People who claim they cast no reflection, don't show up in photos, can not cross running water, are repulsed by crosses, and can control animals. Anything like the "classical" myths claim is pure bull and should be an instant warning that they are fakes.

* People who claim they are a servant of darkness, the devil, satan, evil, or who worship a vampire god. There is no such thing. Just human cults who are into sick and cruel blood rituals. Also, anyone claiming they are a demon themselves, or half-demon as is popular in Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

* Anyone who says they are "soulless" or who have lost/sacrificed their soul for eternal life.

* Promises of being "turned" or "embraced" Someone saying they can make you a vampire or give you the "Dark Gift" Anyone looking for a "Childer" or seeking an "eternal partner" or "dark soulmate" are full of it!

The above post by Oceanne should be required reading of all who sign up for membership here... imho.

Thank you, Oceanne, for interjecting such a needed heavy dose of Reality here, and for also providing a few key foundational principles and information with which to strongly temper the fantasy indulging that so often goes on here.

You're quite welcome Upir.Since we have been asked for different views,I might as well post some as well as my own.

It has been nice too because while everyone has posted what they feel,they have done so without cutting anyone else down even though some do not agree with another.

I did,and I appreciate that.But the fact that you even felt you felt compelled to "remind" anyone is beyond me.Even if one "is defensive."First words of your OP.'I dont want to start an argument"

Then dont Bella.Everyone has done right by your thread.
Everyone.Across the board.
Anyway,we can all create a sense of mystery around anything ,especially on a website.It just all depends on how we portray ourselves.

That's sort of weird because i've had a couple to explain to me their side of things whenever it comes to vampyres and a slight few of the above listed mingles with that.

Now my question for you is....what if it is more of a spiritual awakening that vampyres are about? Maybe they are selective about who they come to based on the person in general who carry some ties or connections or already exposed to the realities of their existance so-to-speak.

What if Princes and such exist within towns and cities, like VTM in way, how would we go about proving they do or do not exist because I believe during some television interviews, they do have chosen people who claim the title "King or Prince"?

They do,but the big question I heard here after Don Henri had gone on tv was "Who declared him ?"Let me put it this way,there was alot of grumbling going on.
But thats someone elses view,a different aspect ..I didnt write it.

Very amusing OC, and very often true, unless they are playing the bluff card.
There is definitely a link between VR's BDSM sex and viruses ,erm not literally folks...wonders why the viral passage was not explored long ago? Prehaps it was, probably by Cartmans hamster...Either way the possiblity remains a virus is involved, or an entity mimicking a virus looking for the V5 site to lock onto.

The animation provided by Honorable TGK is very beautiful. there after i have seen one more movie in its series... its amazing.