My friend and I polaristhe2
I am showing great interest in the mythical nephilim for the last few years. I gathered some material about them, but alas it is unsatisfactory at the very least. Could you, brothers and sisters, broaden my horizons on the named subject, with your knowledge. Thank you once again. "
Oh and I am not here to score ranks. I am here for a "deeper" purpose.
Not sure what you already have, but wikipedia has some info.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim
nephilim are supposedly the offspring from angels and human women. angels aren't supposed to be able to reproduce, so some scholars claim they stole semen from sleeping male humans - like incubi / succubi.
the mythology has probably come down from the stories in Greek myths of Gods mating with human women to produce heroes and demigods.
there are some people today that believe the whole myth grew from aliens experimenting in human / alien hybrids. there are myths about human women being impregnated by gods / demons / angels / spirits in every culture. in China today there are still stories of so called human / yeti hybrids.
karnstein is correct, they were the "giants" I think you can read about them in Genesis
There was a thread about this a short time ago.....there was someone who knew alot about this subject.....have just woken up and can't remember the ladys' name.....but she gave out alot of info.
Would advise you look back as this may be closed down.
Oceanne, is the one who is best informed on this subject, might want to get some opnions from her.
Yes....thats who it was and she was kind enough to offer to message anyone who wanted more info........ta Infernalmage.
Here is a decent website i found that tells about the nephilim...
Nephilim Website
They were supposedly offsprings of angels and humans, therefore making them strong and giants...That's as much as I know.
Wikipedia probably has the most information, though. *goes to look at the Wikipedia*
Merlin was nephilim - his mother was human, his father a fomorian
His sister elf, his brother a bum and his dog lunch. So? All fairy tales.
But fairly tales had to have some origin...no matter how out of proportion it is taken there is always some foundaion that story was made off of. It is reflected in every culture and almost every religion.
nephilim were indeed the result of angel reproducing with femal human, as they were able to do it were forbided to do it, result give giants in the fact average height was 5 feet, and they were bout 7 or 8 feet so giants to their eyes, also really violent, extremly agressive cruel and murderer.
The Nefilim ("Fallen Ones") of Semitic scripture were in fact the "Bene ha Elohim" (Sons of God) of Genesis 6:1-4, who have their true origins in the legneds of the far-ealrlier Sumerian "Anunnake" (Sons of the [Heavenly] Prince). Their progeny were vilified as bloodthirsty giants called the "Rephaim," and in later Christian times were also vilified as blood-drinkers, the Slavic vampires.
The actual truth regarding them, however, is as astounding as it is now historically indisputable... and has absolutely nothing to do with blood-drinking, crucifix-fearing, "Undead" creatures.
My profile is entirely devoted to their study and the historical origins of the actual Slavic Vampire, their progeny.
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well i am here for rateing purposes but i am also here to learn.. and in this topic its one of those rateing things because i do not know of this nephilim to talk about
Coming from you, Oceanne, that is indeed very high praise. For obvious reasons, this topic is of great interest to us both. Thank you again.
As regards the Nefilim in particular, once researched thoroughly what stands out most prominently is the great similarity between the legends of the Sumerian Anunnake (the Sumerian accounts of these same celestial beings) and the near-identical legends found throughout the Americas and Egypt of a small group of men who descended from the skies and established Earth's first and greatest civilizations, teaching Humankind not only the skills needed to form a true society, but also teaching them the same morals and ethics. And like in Canaan and Sumer, in some cultures they were welcomed resulting in a gloriously successful civilization (e.g., Egypt, Sumer) and in other cultures, they were rejected and their families slaughtered resulting in cultures who remained forever backward, brutal, and primitive (e.g., Canaan and some of the ancient American civilizations).
Oh, and surprise... they were not giants at all any more than they were actual "fallen" angels.
For those interested in studying more on the subject of the Nefilim (Bene ha Elohim/Anunnake/Viracocha/Demigods of Manes, - to list only a few of the names given these same visitors from the skies), I highly recommend the following two books:
"From the Ashes of Angels" - Andrew Collins
"Fingerprints of the Gods" - Graham Hancock
From what I've gathered thusfar in this thread, angels were not supposed to or possibly weren't able to reproduce, and it was mentioned that some scholars theorize that they stole semen from human males.
So... if a nephilim is indeed a hybrid between an angel/God and a human, and they wished to reproduce with human women to create Demi-Gods... how could they have possibly achieved this by using the semen of a human male?
I will interject after all the postings on this thread, and will lovingly thank Oceanne, Carvall, Infernal, and Upir for the wonderful info regarding said race of angelic origin.
I know I will recieve arguement over this, and to most will seem speculative, but the neph were not fallen, rather they chose not to choose either path. As their paths were differant, the Lord let them be the travelers. Their purpose was to acknowledge humankind, and to give humankind the proper knowledge on where to proceed with the travels to the heavens.
Societies from ancients past misconstrude this information, and took them for the fallen ones. As the neph had no wings at all, but a differant mark altogether...Thus the vampire stereotype was inflicted onto them.
This knowledge comes from the Akashic records, Ancient egyptian texts from the time of the Sumerians, and the keepers of the sacred knowledge.
Another reason why humankind thinks there is still a war between the heavens and the hells...Here on Earth.
Genesis 6:4 (Original KJV):
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that,
when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and
they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which
were of old, men of renown.
Bible Probe Note: Note the words; "and also after that". This
probably tells of two "irruptions" by Satan's seed. One before Noah's
time and another after the flood. They were called “The Watchers” in The Book of Enoch.
http://bibleprobe.com/nephilim.htm
The Nephilim are the offspring off fallen angels and human women. But the women has to be a willing individual to be able to cary the child to full term. Most generally the angels did not allow the child to live to puberty due to the child being unstable mentally and having powers of an angel, bad combo i guess.
I did some research on this topic awhile back. Biblically speaking, the nephilim can be found indirectly mentioned in Genesis. The Book of Enoch (recovered from the Dead Sea Scrolls) has a lot of interesting material to digest, if you are looking for reading on the matter. (note: I would not look to wikipedia for any information...NOT a good source)
What I've seen...nephilim are supposedly the offspring of angels and female humans. They taught enchantments and spells to humans and were supposedly wicked, unholy. (if you read the text carefully you can get the idea why many witches refer to the powers of the earth, air, water, fire...possible link to the nephilim) God did not like what he saw and therefore destroyed the nephilim (comes the great flood). Supposedly, the souls of the beings were trapped to earth because Heaven would not permit such a being in...thus, the dead nephilim became demons.
Whether its true or not is up to the reader. Fascinating, none the less.
well this is all interesting yet do we believe that it is/was possible. I mean yes I know the bible speaks of it yet , it is hard for me to wrap my mind around it, just my opinion.
I have never heard of this/them. Is it in the Bible and if so where?
Look, I beleive that if this earlier type of human, stayed in such a large fomat, the Earth would be all in about half of what we are.
Its evolution.
Genesis, as theshining1 posted. I believe that is the only reference to them in the bible where they are called Nephalem.
I am interested in the connections between the Nephalem, Annunaki and the Enlightened Teachers (such as Jesus and Quetzalcoatl). It seems that they can all be related if the assumption is made that they were actually extraterrestrial beings. How else is it that there is Sumerian record of the outter planets? Little bit of a tangent there, my apologies. :)
Jut imagine have to eat ten cows for breakfast!
Thats a huge drain on natural resources.
Soulshroude... you've been to the Akashic Records in astral?
Those of whom thing paper text, scrolls and or books would be in the astral plain do have quite the imagination.
As for Jesus and quaz, these two were reknowned Sacred Geometrists and keepers of the Alchemies. They were teachers of the arcane. As well as had the infinite knowledge of the unknown. As with Seripus Bey. They were descendants of a far greater society, just wishing to give society nowadays a clear thought process, just to achieve something like that of the golden age. But again, we are back to the bronz age, slipping into a sort of copper era. Sucks to be us.