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MysticMoon
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Ancient religion? Aliens from outer space? Ancient astronomers? A megalomaniac artist? Water sources?
Since discovery by American scientist Paul Kosok in 1939, the lines on the rocky Peruvuan Pampa San Jose near the small desert town of Nazca have perplexed scholars. Originally thought to be the remains of irrigation lines beyond the verdant Nazca valley, it wasn't until they were seen from the air that the lines were recognizable as figures.

The lines are a variety of geometrical figures, trapezoids, triangles and lines, plus marine, animal and bird figures of hummingbirds, a whale, a monkey, a spider, a bird likened to a pelican, another like a condor, and one called the astronaut. They range in size up to 1000 ft (300m) across and are about 2000 years old. See photos.

The lines are thought to have been etched on the Pampa Colorada sands by three different groups: the Paracas people 900-200 BC, Nazcas 200 BC-AD 600 and the settlers from Ayacucho at about 630 AD.







There are many diffrent theories on how these were created and for what purpose. What do you think there purpose was and how they were created?

http://gosouthamerica.about.com/cs/southamerica/a/PerNazca.htm




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Teaser: They represented schools of thought for 1.



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Very well put question. I think that these lines were created by some very smart people because they (the people that created them) believed that someone would see them from the sky or space. The creators of the lines were brilliant in their work. The big question to me is what made these people so sure that someone or something would see these pictures from afar. It is a great mystery. Maybe one of the best.



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I have seen on a documentary that there is a vantage point from on top of a small moutnian that some of these figures can be made out from. That does not in any way to me answer why they were created. I think it is pretty obvious that they were supposed to be seen from the sky.



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It is believed that the geoglyphs were built by a people called the Nasca- but why and how they created these wonders of the world has defied explanation.



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It may be something as simple as they were revearing the animals that gave them food, or signaled the change in seasons. They could have been an offering to Gods, or for use in different rituals, and the list goes on. Its a very intresting topic!



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These lines have always fascinated me. It is obvious they were meant to be seen from above yet the purpose is elusive. I have heard many theories-everything from somewhat far out theories of being landmarks (literally) for space travelers to being meditation routes for the people who built them.

One of the thoughts I have had is that they could simply be art and the appreciation of them was only in the making of them.

However, on this one, anyone's guess is as good as and perhaps even better than mine.



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Maybe the people who made the line-art wanted it to be seen by their gods...



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That's the most acceptable motivation Raven.



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Sounds like Mr Eric Von Danican's Chariots are riding again.



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I love this sort of thing. I like to think they were put there by humans who were left after the aliens left them behind...sort of an Atlantis legend if the Lantians were from another world and then had helped cavemen to evolve. Maybe they left, maybe they perished... But this was what was put out there as a sign that cuold be read from the sky by those who hoped for their return.

That's make a great story, huh? And who is to say it's nto real?



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Kwil
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In the ancient world there were many schools of thought. Objects represented these schools by the meanings of their image. Each representation was also a directional path.

This is another Teaser. Come on people it's easy. Cross cultures/ across waters....similar representations on both sides. Look at the images on the Plains and think.
Todays Crop circles are similar in meaning.....the real ones.



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17:00:18 Oct 02 2007
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These same techniques are being used to create some great man made art as well.



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Well I can only produce an idea..... lol.

Perhaps they were symbols for the gods... Symbols to be pleasing to the gods..... maybe in a forum of art.... or maybe they are symbolic as talking to the gods..... Before there were letters, writing consisted of pictures.....

It's just a thought..... cant back it up or anything...... merely a suggestion that my brain gathered. lol.



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Kwil
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If we can all agree that Humankind is not unique, that we are not alone in the Universe or this galaxy in particular, then we have to agree that alien life is not just possible but factual, that we have been visited and continue to be visited, then we can begin to understand these symbols and much more.



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yeah i believe they were ment to be seen by there gods



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I personally cant buy into the alien life form bit.... at least not in this situation. I am not saying there is no way there are other life forms..... Not saying that at all...... What I am saying though is that....... If you look at the designs of this pictures..... they are remarkable in their likeness to the ways that the people in those times wrote.. As I said before there were letters, things were written in pictures..... That said..... I highly doubt that the people of those days knew there were other planets, let alone the idea of other life forms..... Hence my theory on the images being for the gods to see them.... (How do I know how the people of that time frame wrote? Art History, high school.... professor, Uni.)



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this is truly amazing. i can not get into the idea that this was aliens either. i do believe tho that the ancient people on these lands made spectacls to thier gods. and wanted everyone to see them to appease thier gods. this is my thoughts on this :)



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Dear Quill,
it`s possible that an extra-terrestial civilization could develop and even influence our civilization.
However I strongly disagree about the fact that on other continent exists such designs.
The Nazca designs are unique in the entire world and we do not know their purpose.



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Rictus
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I would think that is something like the Serpent Mound crater along Ohio Brush Creek in Adams County, Ohio.



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Kwil
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Dragonrogue

Not designs in the ground...but as glyphs on walls in either finer format or rougher format with added representations



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Would say as a sign of there faith.



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Kwil
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I would encourage as many VR members as possible to give their thoughts on this. Petroglyphs are an ancient form of communication that were meant to remain in place through the ages....crop circles of the old world.



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Theshining1
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wow thats good to no..



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Kwil
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Some will say :here we go with the alien thing again" but of course again....hey......how about that contradictions post...hmmmmm......gods??????



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this is an intresting topic and I will have to give it some deep thought.



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MysticMoon
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20:45:39 Oct 04 2007
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I was thinking on the lines of worship to the gods.. but aliens that another possible theory .. Im also very intersted in crop circles.. I know some have been proven to be hoaxes but not all..



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that is very true there MysticMoon.



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Meant to be seen by their dietity, their gods and other spiritual being they worshiped, or alien some might ..maybe say.



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The true conundrum about all of these sites-Nazca, Stonehenge, the Pyramids, etc-is that although we can and have figured out methods the people of the time could have used to build them, we have not necessarily found THE way they were built. This goes for crop circles as well. Just because one group found a way to do it, does not mean that they were all done the same way.

Which is why we keep asking the questions-:)



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GMOnyx
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Excellent Point. Real Crop Circles for example, have distinct properties that have never been duplicated.

Why REAL Crop Circles can't be Hoaxed



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I feel that they were made to be seen by a higher being or as som emay think Aliens... they are so complex in design that I am sure they are a map or warning or even a signal for other higher spieces than us. We may not ever know in this life time it is just a mystery for us at this time .... and even I am one with alot of questions, that may not ever get answered...



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Rictus
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Finger of god doodling? Unusually precise tornado?



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GMOnyx
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I also find it amazing that the Nazca lines survive to this very day. Whoever and however they were constructed, the location was perfect. Due to the weather and other natural factors, they are here to ponder on today.



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Theshining1
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WHAT???????????????????????????????/



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I am honestly not sure.....I have heard about them...seen many pics...but have no clue as to why it could happen...or who could have caused it



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I think what Raven said made sense. It was probably done to be seen by their gods.



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hrm.. there is evidence of cultures traveling across the oceans in ancient times.
Egyptians had tobacco which was not native to their part of the world..
Some alternative scientists believe we are in the 7th age of man and that very little is known of the first 4.. only bits and pieces.
There is some assumptions that we are not the first age to have flight.
This is searchable on the net if one wishes to seek and find it.

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A religion kind of like scientology? well...ok
cool pictures by the way.



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Has toagree with the idea of the People wanting to show their gods something .. Can You imagine the time and effort it took to make this kind of figure in the rocks and earth geez They must have really wanted to make an impact.. Hopes they got what they were seeking



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i have to agree with MasterThoth its amazing these are still here for us to see after all this time.. you would think the elements would have changed them somehow...



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i suspect they are still there because they are still used. i think it is a shamanic thing - the paths were created for people to walk along in order to awaken spirits.



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ok i like this theory karnstein .. something else to think about



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God drawing picture on how he wanted things to look



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God drawing picture on how he wanted things to look



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I think that they are so amazing and that surely something much higher in this universe put them there for a reason and we have learned that reason. I mean something that amazing surely was not put there just "because" at least that is my feelings on it . :)



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