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Raelita
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I was just wondering if anyone else has had a thoughtflow before?
I experianced one, and I had absolutely no idea what it was. That is until I talked to my Wiccan High Priestess.




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It would help if you explained in your own words, of what you think a thoughtflow is, or what your wiccan friend told you it was.



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09:00:24 Nov 09 2007
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i do not understand what u say .
please make ur opnion clear.



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09:03:07 Nov 09 2007
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Could you please explain in more detail..I am kinda lost.



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Yes, everyones thoughts flow but some aren't on the same page.



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In concurrence with most everybody above, please do us the courtesy of explaining what you are on about... otherwise we can't tell you whether or not we have had one too.



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15:00:30 Nov 09 2007
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I agree please elaborate more if you could?



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15:05:28 Nov 09 2007
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I have no idea what you're talking about.



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Perhaps the original poster was referring to this energy work techique. Thought Flow

This describes it as a means of breaking free from a "loop" of non productive thought patterns into a state of "flow" for ones thoughts which can result in productive energy managment.

Just trying to add something for a basis of conversation.



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Drakontion
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15:12:27 Nov 09 2007
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Well that makes slightly more sense. I guess.

Woot for behavioural modifications!



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15:13:25 Nov 09 2007
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Ooooh, you mean ADHD, yeah, all the time...Consumes my life.

On a more serious note, once an individual focus's more on a project, their mind is no longer shackled by random thoughts, but on the concentration of what they are doing. Torot readers and psychics do it on a constant basis.



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this is all interesting yet do we all not have different thought flows.



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During an ET session, I noticed the possibility of handing over a thought or a set of thoughts such as questions, stuck loops and suchlike annoyances to a different processing system which appeared to be accessed by moving these thoughts over the top of the head and down the back. I experienced this when I tried it very much like at first, a flow of the thought or concept, from the brow up and over the head, then down the neck and becoming finer and more misty until it seemed to disappear altogether - at which point there was just wonderful peace and a sense of relief in my conscious mind and the thought was just gone.


Thought Flow Basics - Part 1

During an ET session, I noticed the possibility of handing over a thought or a set of thoughts such as questions, stuck loops and suchlike annoyances to a different processing system which appeared to be accessed by moving these thoughts over the top of the head and down the back.

I experienced this when I tried it very much like at first, a flow of the thought or concept, from the brow up and over the head, then down the neck and becoming finer and more misty until it seemed to disappear altogether - at which point there was just wonderful peace and a sense of relief in my conscious mind and the thought was just gone.

Without prejudice, I invited some others to try it out and tell me what happened when they did this, and they found the same effect, describing it in their own terms, of course.

Then I spoke to Ananga Sivyer, my final authority on all things "classically energetic" and go-between to the Yellow Emperor. She tried the technique, experienced it much like I did, and then told me that what I was doing was to hand over these thoughts to a very important energy channel, called Shushumna Nadi in the Ayurvedic System and Governor in the Chinese Systems.

I found a picture of said Shushumna Nadi and it did send a little shiver up my spine - it was exactly as I had experienced it in actuality right down to the thinning off sensation as this channel bridges out of the coarse meridian system and into the wider energy systems of the energy body.

Ananga and I like it a lot when this happens. Not that it is that important really because I just found a technique that works very well and is easy to do and that is what counts at the end of the day, but it is also fun and general confirmation when my own experientially derived maps match up with these "handed down from antiquity" wisdoms.


More Advanced Processing & Getting New Answers

Right from the start, I knew that passing over these unanswerable paradoxes, dilemmas, problems and unsolvable puzzles to this other system was very different from just "killing the thought" or "throwing it in the bin". There are many techniques for that kind of thing and although they afford a temporary relief, nothing much is gained and the thought comes right back, entirely unchanged, and the old thought loops just run all over again - and in the process of running, they heat up, become faster, more powerful, more all-encompassing to the point of obsession and systems breakdown in the long run.

I have, for a very long time indeed, taken the stance on all parts of human systems that they are IMPORTANT, else they would not be here at all and have been very unhappy indeed at the various religions which try to demonify conscious thought, the body and the unconscious, for example, depending on their own pet theories.

In my mind, the totality of a human system cannot work unless each part is accorded its dues and they all work together in harmony and communication.

The thought systems, which are particularly denigrated as "the monkey mind", dismissed as being meaningless drivel and often even the target of trying to switch them off altogether, were indeed malfunctioning and causing a great deal of trouble - and the more we used them, the more trouble they caused, leading to real overheating as they churned round and round and very seriously unbalanced people's overall energy systems who worked a lot with them, including my own.

I had a notion that this abuse of the thought systems had a lot to do with the "genius and madness" problem for example, or why so many highly intelligent and creative people get seriously ill and live and die in extreme misery as they sacrifice their totality to their endeavours.

For a time, we tried to stop this overheating by paying more attention to the other systems (forcing ourselves to take breaks from our research and walking or exercising, for example) but that really did not work because once the thought system is active and running its loops, it is very difficult indeed to try and slow it down or switch it off, even if we wanted to - which, in the end, most people who work in research and creativity simply do not want to do, no matter what the cost to their sanity, their relationships with the rest of the universe, and their health and physicality.

So I went back to the drawing board, considered the system and then found the simple answer to the problem, namely that the thought system at some point is designed to hand over its enquiries for further processing elsewhere because it absolutely lacks the structural means to really find the answers to its own questions.




Is this what you are talking about??

(yes, I got this off a website)



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16:50:58 Nov 09 2007
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ADHD? heeheehee... yup...



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16:51:51 Nov 09 2007
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I've experienced something similar to what deadlyvamprss explained. It's all verey personal and some what different for each person. At least, I believe so.



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17:33:35 Nov 09 2007
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Hrm.. if i'm understanding the thread right -- concentration an focus on a situation or problem tends to free up the rest of the mind to work at it at a fuller potential -- Higher mind work some say.



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17:47:42 Nov 09 2007
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deadlyvampiress:

The posting rules on VR require you to provide a link to any website you quote.



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LleananSidhe
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18:04:27 Nov 09 2007
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I always have same ole same ole goin on in my head I could use a change ... Looking into making myself aware to a new Thought Flow...



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Carvall
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19:15:46 Nov 09 2007
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I have looked at the link that KCRC has kindly provided.....seems a bit 'new age' to me.

Still if others find it useful, good for them.



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20:40:18 Nov 09 2007
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Well in my own opion of what thought flow could be for this topic I always have thought flow. A lot of time I try to get to a computer and just type anything and everything that comes to mind. Some of it doesn't make any sense but it does get out some things. I don't really think about what I'm typing when I type I just let it all "flow" out. Other times I like to think of it in a story line so to speak or maybe not so much a story line as it becomes a poemish thingy.. But most of those I can't get out in one fluent thought.



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02:19:00 Nov 10 2007
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I only have that when I play my clarinet....



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02:39:33 Nov 10 2007
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Hmm, I suppose I have. Mainly when I'm doing something that completely relaxes me, completely consoles me...Mainly guitar.



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04:05:36 Nov 10 2007
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i have them from time to time but i dont think nothing of them



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what is a thoughtflow??



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06:23:11 Nov 10 2007
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If by thought flow you mean gnosis or no mind then yes i use them during meditation, its very freeing isn't it?



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09:30:16 Nov 10 2007
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Ow yeah, a total relaxation, blissing out.



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Raelita
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When I had this thought flow, I called my teacher (my wiccan teacher.) I explained to her that I had this dream about all these different things I had done as in sending my protection to her. I went into great detail about it, if you want to know all detail then I will tell you. But in all she said it was a thought flow, and that I had never been instructed how to do it, and I never knew what it was. Being new to the craft, she claimed that it was utterly amazing that I was able to do it, and let alone I did it in my sleep when most have problems doing it when they are awake.



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I see nothing amazing about having natural thoughtflow abilities, those of whom are wise in any degree, should consul with a manner of respect and not patronizing. A word such as "amazing" seems to me a patronizing, I did not know you had it in you statement.

Patronizing words, phrases, and or statements bring an individual down, as they get no learning knowledge from it.

This is why, most of the time I tend to learn alone, with no teachers, masters, sire's, parents...etc, or whathaveyou.



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never heard of them



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10:45:25 Nov 11 2007
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I have thought Flows when I get lost in my music



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Sorry I'm still not seeing the occult/paranormal association with this thread.

Thought flow is behaviour modification. Think Pavlov's dog. There is nothing supernatural about it.



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it happens to me when I am writing, I mean when I wirte my books, if I am on a page and ideas comes and I am writing on the characters then..somehow I get lost and got a total diferent path...its hard to focus but I manage, it is aconstant combat within my head.



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13:40:08 Nov 11 2007
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I have experienced this but only in a completely relaxed state..and under complete silence.



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13:42:01 Nov 11 2007
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so is it like add?

cause then...WOOT i got it!



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16:16:24 Nov 11 2007
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It mostly happens to me when I'm meditating or when I'm very calm



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16:38:33 Nov 11 2007
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plz explain farther



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12:08:28 Nov 12 2007
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has not happened to me



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this has not happened to me.



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I have only experienced this sort of thing when in a completely relaxed state, with complete dark and complete silence.



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14:50:25 Nov 12 2007
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yea ive experinced thought flow......it was corrupted by my adhd. and a butterfly. lmao



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so if i understand this right it tends to happen when you are calm and meditating? I have never had this happen to me.



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20:31:01 Nov 12 2007
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only when i limit my thought to one focus...



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that is a interesting topic but i really dont have any education on this topic if anyone one would care to fill me in inbox me please



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Thought flows, in my history, can be used as therapy for a patient who may have a hard time expressing feelings during a session, or who have no real train of thought because it is near impossible for them to focus (An ADHD child for example).
After a bit of free writing, all the thoughts may merge into one. This can be used as a sort of training for ideas for writers, or even just a brain excersize.



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