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Demons and fairies are often malcontented spirits and are at the heart of much storytelling throughout history. Sultry temptresses and mischievous sprites make cameos not only in mythology, but in Milton and Shakespeare.

Many of our classifications here in VR are demonic in origin:
Shadow; Ghoul; Spook; Phantom; Shade; Fiend
Unclean Spirit; Specter; Wraith; Shaitan; Changeling, but there are many other well-known demons like the Djinn, the Nixie, the Merrow, Tommy-Knockers, Windigo, Kitsune, Mimi, Asmodeus, and many others.

If you know any demon lore, please tell us the tale associated with it. Or tells us about a specific demon, what it looks like, what it does, and how to get rid of it.

Here’s one:

Changelings are a type of fairy who steals human babies. They are also the “thing” left behind to fool the human parents. If your baby breaks stuff, or has teeth or speaks while still an infant, chances are you have a changeling.

One woman suspected she had a changeling. She was advised to boil eggshells, discarding the eggs. The Changeling, a newborn, asked, “What are you brewing?” This terrified the mother, of course, but she replied, “I’m brewing eggshells.” The Changeling was quite agitated, and exclaimed, “Oh! In the fifteen hundred years that I have been alive, I have never seen anyone brew eggshells.” (From Carol Mack, A Field Guide to Demons, p 204-05).

The changeling knew it had blown his cover and disappeared, leaving behind the human infant in its place.

In Scotland, mothers were advised to feed their infants whiskey mixed with earth, apply hen excrement or salt or both, or stick pins and scissors or knives around the crib.

A very good read. It is a shame that a lot of lore is lost these days in popular society due to cynicism and the media. Many people don't bother to research or learn until they make a Hollywood movie about it. Sigh.

Well I hope we can have a good talk about this, I feel the problem will be history has been re wrote by a winning hand. And all we have is there accounts.
A classic account is the fairies folk … known to me as the Tuatha in celtic lands. The real fairy folk were very tall and wonderfully talented they came down a mountain in a very dark cloud. Well the problem the church had was they couldn’t demonize them so they said they were truly exceptionally people and must be fallen angels who are still not bad enough to go to hell.
So we move on in history and they made them smaller till one rather invent full couple of girls photographed the famous fairy pictures and the rest of history we will see repeated parrot fashion in the post to come. .. lol

Well the Tommy Knockers are supposed to be the spirits of dead miners that help miners to find ore and will knock on the walls as a warning before a cave-in. But part of the tale is that the very first man to hear the sound is jinxed. Also that they can be spiteful if they don't like you. Miners have been known to leave them food or gifts to appease them and stay in their good graces.

Its similar to Dragons, which, through evolution, it is possible to present a plausible argument that they did exist (way too lazy at the moment to type it out, and probably discussion for another thread) but over the years they have been made out to be brutal, savage man killers. They have also been made out to be fictional as they present the idea that there is something out there better than man. Anytime someone is killed by a shark or a lion, there are calls to cull them, they are evil. Imagine how effective those calls would of been before the days of PETA or Greenpeace. Anything that undermines humans perceived position atop the food chain is immediately removed. Demons, guardian angels, elves, dragons, unicorn, faeries, or anything that is seen to be magical or more powerful or intelligent than us is immediately dismissed. The ultimate inferiority complex?

Succubus or incubus
Children of lilith the first woman in the garden of Eden who was banished for not putting up with adams ways. Lol
Well documented and personally I can testify to them being dream walkers and erotic.
Documented by monks as they were tormented and believed to be killed in your sleep if you let it go all the way to orgasm.
Big question is if your dead how do you know it was a succubus lol

Rosho, it's a different kind of intelligence, and trying to classify mammals in a linear fashion is never going to work. Yet . . . I prefer being on the top of the food chain to simplify matters.

I really was hoping no one would mention Lilith in the demon category which is being a poor sport. She is so maligned, I can't stand it. Will have to respond later when I'm less annoyed.

Actually I'm Cars Ho, not Rosho :P

I understand your point, but sometimes we need to simplify in order to better put forth our point.

I think our fear comes from a long way back. Humans were for a long time the weaker of animals, and thus why we had to evolve to survive. We grew to be able to have excellent stamina and perform better in the middle of the day. I think there are still remnants of fear in our instincts from that time though. We fear 'the dark' as that was when we were most susceptible to be attacked. We have these images of demons and werewolves and creatures of the night as this is the images stored in us of those formative times. I think a lot of lore is lost in that regard that we fear it more than anything. We fought and evolved our way to where we are now and we don't want to believe that there is, or ever was, anything better than us.

The Red Gnome...

Before I relate just what that thing was, let me take you back 242 years in time and 3,600 miles away in space to the days of the early settlers in Detroit, Michigan. In June 1763, British Captain James Dalyell and 58 of his officers were followed near the banks of Detroit River by a small, misshapen crimson-clad figure with penetrating eyes, a large fanged mouth, and a hideous scarlet face.

Several soldiers shot at the weird looking figure. An old trapper warned Captain Dalyell and his men that they were being stalked by what the French settlers called the "Nain Rouge"- the Red Gnome – a sinister supernatural entity whose appearance foretold misfortune and death.

Sure enough, shortly after seeing the crimson dwarf, Captain Dalyell and his soldiers were ambushed and massacred by the Indian Chief, Pontiac, and the blood of the slain turned the tributary of the Detroit River red for days.

Decades earlier, the founder of Detroit, Antoine de la Mothe Cadillac, was also unlucky enough to see the Red Gnome, and soon lost his vast fortune and political standing. The diminutive omen of impending misfortune and death was seen again in 1801, shortly before the wooden city of Detroit was destroyed by a fire. Then, in the War of 1812, the Nain Rouge was seen prowling about in a fog by many witnesses, including General William Hull, who was forced to hand over Detroit to the British troops days later.

Around the end of 1857, there was a rumor that two hunters had killed the Red Gnome in a forest. They had shot him several times and fixed him to a tree with their bayonets to prevent his escape, and the body had been exhibited and packed in salt.


The superstitious people of the colony arranged for the monstrosity to be burnt, for there was a widespread fear it would return to life, and a bonfire was built in a clearing, but someone approached the men who had killed the strange creature, and purchased it for an undisclosed sum.

A collector of oddities in Liverpool, England, arranged for the Red Gnome’s cadaver to be shipped to the home of warehouse keeper Michael Connolly, at 25 Clarence Street, Everton. The Black Hawk brig brought the curious cargo to Liverpool Docks, and the small cask was delivered – to the wrong Clarence Street. There were three streets of that name in the city at the time, and instead of going to Everton, it was delivered to the home of Abraham Harris, a jeweler living at 25 Clarence Street in the city center. A servant signed for the cask, and Mr. Harris was horrified when he saw the grotesque little man, pickled in brine in the barrel. The cask was stored in the cellar, and in the evening when the jeweler went down to show a colleague the terrifying corpse – they found the barrel empty and its lid lying on the floor.

The evil-looking creature was never seen again. Had someone stolen the Red Gnome – or was the real explanation much more sinister?

http://www.dark-stories.com/eng/the_red_gnome.htm

It's not just that it is overlooked, it is ostracised, ridiculed, and made to seem as childish dreamings.

We have a local version of the changeling. We call it "tiyanak".

The tiyanak (also tianak or tianac) imitates the form of a child. It usually takes the form of a newborn baby and cries like one in the jungle to attract unwary travelers. Once it is picked up by the victim, it reverts to its true form and attacks the victim. Aside from slashing victims, the tianak also delights in leading travelers astray, or in kidnapping children.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiyanak

Oh and here's a description of what tiyanaks look like. I can't seem to find an image of it online.

In its true form, there are varying differences of the tiyanak:
• In one version, it retains the general shape of a baby but then forms sharp claws and fangs to attack its kind-hearted victim

• In another, it shares certain similarities with dwarfs and is similarly associated with the earth. In this version, the "true" form of the tiyanak is that of a little old man with wrinkled skin, a long beard and mustache, a flat nose and eyes the size of peseta coins. The same story says that a tiyanak is relatively immobile because its right leg is much shorter than the other. This deformity forces it to move by leaping rather than walking, making it difficult to hunt or stalk victims, but its ability to mimic an infant's cry compensates for this disadvantage.

• In yet another story it is seen supernaturally flying through the forest (still in the form of a baby) and in a legend from the island of Mindoro it transforms into a black bird before flying away

• In another version from Pampanga, the tiyanak are described as small, nut-brown people who don't walk on the ground but rather float on air. They have large noses, wide mouths, large fierce eyes and sharp voices.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiyanak

i believe in the fey and faieries, especially the myth that if you wake up and there is a circle of mushrooms in your yard that wasn't there before, a group of fairies were dancing there.

The Red Gnome and the Tiyanak are good stories. I especially like it that the Red Gnome seemed to be involved in political and military events. Why not?

I had a New Mexican changeling story in my journal at one time, as told to me by my mother, but it seems to have disappeared. I will locate and repost.

Shaitan (also Satan) is a kind of djinni created by the fire of Allah. Their modus is to lead humans into sin by temptation. I want that job! They create illusions, enthralling visions of pleasure.

they also eat dirt and excrement. Nevermind on the job. They can shape-shift and inhabit corpses.

They also have a muse aspect, and can be like the Greek daimon and inspire poets and artists.

Y'all probably know the story of the genii who was released from his bottle by a hapless fisherman, and given one wish before the genii/Shaitan killed him. The Shaitan had been shut up in the bottle by Solomon whose will he had refused as he had refused the will of heaven. At first he thought he'd grant three wishes, but after stewing all these hundreds of years he changed his mind.

the fisherman praised him and flattered him, and was unbelieving that such a grand figure could have fit in the teeny vessel. Thus challenged and disarmed, the shaitan dissolved into smoke and reentered the vesssel whereupon the fisherman clamped it tightly shut and cast it back into the sea.

Shaitan

Ha! I think social services would have something to say about the Scottish myth of feeding a babe whisky and earth!

That was the mildest disarming spell. Some of them were abusive: whip the changeling was popular, as was put the changeling onto a red hot shovel.

Some of those beliefs from days of yore are incredulously unbelievable, so I shall remain skeptical :)

I read a fairytale called ''The Elves and the Changeling" when I was very young. I was kind of disturbed and that was also when I had the initial realization of how dark fairytales actually are.

LOL, Dabbler! Fairy folkfore is fabulous stuff and a lot of the stories come from Scotland. Did you hear the one about the Scottish Lady Giant who yearned for her love in Ireland, and so he threw her a footpath from Ireland to Scotland that still to this day is called the, Giants Causeway.:)

Elisabeta, check out Angela Carter's

The Bloody Chamber

She says her intent was not to modernize classic fairy tales, but to explore the "latent intent" behind them.

http://www.angelfire.com/crazy4/lesadoreyl/carter_bloody_chamber.html

Thanks for the link on the Bloody Chamber, Bloodmother. I checked it out but I haven't finished reading it yet. Actually, I find the original versions of fairytales horrifying in themselves. They have just been watered down through the years to become more ''child-friendly'' and thus more marketable. Sad, really.

a penfriend of mine was once walking through a wood and heard bells and singing.she followed the sound and came to a clearing and there was a circle of faery danicng round and each one would reach up and ring a bell which was hanging from a tree.she felt very scared and crept away,hoping they never saw her.

Well in Indian Epics Demons Many time won all the three material worlds including Heaven.

King Demon Bali is daity of many Indians.
And the fiercemost Demon yet to take birth in this yuga kali yuga the fourth leg of INdian religion callander bull. Kaliyug of 485000 years and only 5000 years passed. and world will lead towards dark ages. and from middle of Kaliyuga the dar age will rule the world and evil lead. and at the end of kaliyuga the evil will start killing remaining goodnesses in this world and that time the demon Kalki will take birth and will destroy all evils.

I do not have a personal one to share specifically but here is a link that you might find very interesting:

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=34430

Kitsune are wilf fox demons known to do terrible mischief, to possess humans, and to take their shapes.. It shape-shifts by a astroke of its fire-shooting tail.

One man of fifty came upo some attractive women in a restaurant and joined them for a drink. He spent the night with one. He wasted away and died thirty days later. The Kitsune is an std you don't want. More infor here in the database

Kitsune

From Bloodmother's original post:

"In Scotland, mothers were advised to feed their infants whiskey mixed with earth, apply hen excrement or salt or both, or stick pins and scissors or knives around the crib."

What the hell?! That's insane!


Anyway...
I once thought I saw a spirit in a sick delirium at age 10. I did some internet research on the spirit's description, and came up with the Native American entity named Grandmother Spider in most circles. Basically, she's the creator of the world and evertything... so that's pretty cool I guess.

Anyway, she had a white face with black markings, wiry black hair, yellow where eyes should be, ruby red lips with bright, white, shining teeth and fangs... kinda freaky-looking, but oddly non-malevolent. A prime example of not judging a book by it's cover, so to speak.

Just goes to show you - most fairy tales are watered down versions of what were some scary morality tales to keep people in line within their societies, or are sugar-coated tales from older, nature-based religious beliefs.

...sugar coated for mass consumption - Hollywood, for example - and by organized religion.

_I have two. Since I'm a huge fan of Japanese art and lore, I thought I would share two of the most prominent demons in the culture."_

_The Oni_

_"In folklore there are also tales of supernatural creatures called the ‘Oni’. Artists depict the ‘Oni’ with horns and wearing tiger skins. They have no neck, but a crest of hair and a big mouth; their fingers are clawed, and their arms elevated to the shoulders. These artistic renditions of demons not only represent the supernatural, but also embodiments of the evil facets of human nature. The earth ‘Oni’, according to Buddhist belief, are responsible for disease and epidemics (they are dressed in red). The ‘Oni’ of hell (red or green bodies) hunt for sinners and taking them by chariot to Emma-Hoo, the god of hell. There are invisible demons among the ‘Oni’ whose presence can be detected because they sing or whistle. The ‘Oni’ who are women are those transformed into demons after death by jealousy or violent grief. The Buddhist ‘Oni’ demons did not always represent the forces of evil.In Buddhist lore there are tales of monks who after death became ‘Oni’ in order to protect temples from potential disasters. The belief in the ‘Oni’, reached its zenith in the 18th and 19th centuries."_

_The Tengu_

_"Another prominent demon in Japanese folklore is the ‘Tengu’, a mythological being living in mountain forests. Artistic depictions of the ‘Tengu’ range from stumpy, bearded creatures to beings with great lumpy noses. According to lore, anyone entering the territory of the ‘Tengu’ unwittingly can fall into strange and unpleasant situations. The ‘Tengu’ can, in a flash, transform themselves into ugly little men, women and children; then they maliciously tease people with all sorts of nasty tricks. As quickly as they appear, just as quickly they vanish. Some ancient beliefs depicted the ‘Tengu’ as creatures of war and conflict. Sometimes their actions in legends are hypocritical. Artists depicted them with a bird’s head on a human body with spreading wings and clawed feet. Until the 14th century, evil legends were told about the ‘Tengu’; but gradually they evolved into both good and bad beings. Many tales were told of the ‘Tengu’ overcoming evil. In the Buddhist belief they became guides for monks in understanding the Dharma tenets and sacred rites, and also protected Buddhist shrines.In the 18th and 19th centuries they were revered as mountain deities- tributes were offered to them. The woodcutters and huntsmen offered tributes to the ‘Tengu’ deities in order to receive success in their work.

Those that were less respectful found themselves in all sorts of trouble. The belief in the ‘Tengu’ continued until the beginning of the 20th century. Today ceremonial festivals are held in their honour. Tales are still being told of them in modern Japan. In some areas, woodsmen still offer rice cakes to the ‘Tengu’ before starting their work."_

_Can be found HERE_

Isis: demon lore really are morality tales.

Nartina, thank you for the Oni story. My demon book adds this: "Despite their great powers, they are so preoccupied with satisfying excessive bodily needs that their intelligence is diminished."

Like a changeling, they can be shocked into perplexity while the victim escapes. Like some vampire lore, they also like to count, so throwing dry peas about in four directions chases the Oni away.

So pack dry peas, not holy water.

Angel "BELIAL" A beautiful, yet corrupt Butterfly...the dark fallen angel Belial goes beyond all the boundries of gender and twists them until one does not know if they are looking at a male or female. She cursed the fate god gave to her and defied him. Angels are born without a gender and only gain one later on. When Belial started to change into a female she took drugs to stop the process. She never considered herself male or female, for she didn't want to limit herself. Belial is the one responsible for the corruption of Sodom and Gamorrah. This was her project to prove to god the uselessness of gender.

Belial has only one true love that she lives for....the King of Hell, lord Lucifer. He is the only one that can call her by her true name "Belial", all others must call her simply "Mad Hatter". Even in heaven, Belial wasted away in corruption. She seduced countless people, but she was empty inside. There was no one who wouldn't succumb to her charms and she felt there was no real reason to go on....everything was useless. Nothing could hold her interest. But, then she met Lucifer...everything changed forever. For here was a being who did not look at her with lust, who was unaffected by her charms, one who thought her disgusting. He saw her for who she was and she fell in love with him for that. Belial now lives to serve Lucifer, and waits for the perfect moment of bliss when Lucifer will finally give in to her and her love will turn to hate...only then can she die happy.



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Wow Doru... that is a really interesting tale about "Belial". It doesn't really make all that much sense but whatever, a story is a story. The bit about what to call this demon female is a bit perplexing... and kinda silly.

I find these arbitrary rules about what to supposedly call demons highly amusing. It's like differentiating between calling the performing persona of the celebrity Sean Combes "Puff Daddy" or "P. Diddy" or what the hell ever he goes by now. Weirdo.

It is very true that the folklore and tales are made lesser and more tame by the generations... originally the tales were meant to scare the young, not to let the children have sweet dreams.... they wre meant to be warnings.. like 'dont go down to the loch, the Eldricht WaterHorse will get you!'

_No problem Bloodmother. The oni is often mistaken for trolls rather than demons. Infact, until I studied further, I thought they were as such, but it turns out that they are simply stupid demons. I say the oni are stupid, not demons in general. Actually, the oni have helped to change the face of demons in other cultures as well...the horns on the head and the general disgusting look was adapted by the description of the Oni to take the form of chinese demons, and western demons as well. Who knew huh?_

becomethesea, i am just a humble messager, not the creator of the story... ~bows~

A terrific love story, Doru. The Magdalene resuscitated, Of Human Bondage (by Somerset Maugham, only the prostitute remains embittered; is not rescued), Camille.

if a demon maited with a fairy, it would be a Dairy, and it would be considered evil to all who are lactose-intollerant

_Wow...A Dairy? Trust someone to come up with that. lol...quite funny might I add...a humorous aspect to such topics is rare. High five!_

I have been thinking in the collective demons, those demons that are collectively made from all the hype over serial killers, the morbid demon that appeals to those with such reverence for those that slaughter, and the connection it sometimes leads to, the bolstering of the Predators ego, another collective demon its self perhaps.

That's a reflection on how demon lore has changed. If it was a morality tale, then the hero, should be the human, tricks or turns back the evil the demon is propagating. The hero does it by resisting temptation.

If the demons are iconic figures, then they can be worshipped for their prowess. Enter: the antihero. The broody vampire with a soul or the serial killer who gets away with it by offing other serial killers.

well written, the only tale I have been told and know about is the tale of queen Mab and it goes as thus:

one day a man out walking on the moor when to his astonishment he came upon tiny little people dancing and singing merry tunes,Queen Mab pleased to have been seen by this stranger kindly offered him a goblet of sweet liquid as the little folk danced and played merrily around his feet. The stranger believing them to be evil tried to stamp on the wee folk and threw the goblet at them angrily. Queen Mab hurt by his anger and cruelty towards her people decided to go underground bitterly saying never more would she offer a kindness to the 'wicked folk'

_SQUEEE! HEALER GAVE ME A CYBER HIGH FIVE! *does a dance*_

Going back a little to my post on lilith, and are you surprised when asking about demons that she is not talked about?
The first wife in the garden of Eden and in my view much better than the escape goat eve for sure.
Yes this maligned child of god from a forgotten part of the old testament is quite the bad girl.
She began life called Lil meaning storm or wind for the Sumerians and a very beautiful ultimate woman and yes known to now have bird legs lol
Feminist propaganda like to paint adam as a dolt however she liked him to start with so he must have been ok.
I see it as she is the moon to his sun a yin and yang god got adam to name everything and part of his dominance was to control his twin soul lilith.
She knew the secret name of god the ultimate word of power ( not yahwel but the void I think)
So three angels savali, sansanvai and semangelof were sent to bring her back from the wastelands to Eden, she said no not now iv seen the red sea.
She was then punished and made semi dry goddess unable to give birth to human babys.
She can have lilim who are born to torment humans.
Personally I think she unleashes our deepest desires and hidden fantasies. Winged and talon feet smelling of cedar skin pale as the moonlight decorated with henna. She understands we are all equal and all acts of love and pleasure are her ritual magic.
So get out there and get summoning lol

Ouch! BecometheSea, I hope the road doesn't lead you to Scotland when you are having babies!

That was the least offensive retelling of the Lilith story that I've heard in a long time. Shows a reading and a reading and a thinking and sensitivity.

Lilith is the Queen of the Succubi, known to specialize in Talmudic scholars. According to my Field Guide to Demons, ". . . perhaps one of the best ways to catch a glimpse of Lilith is to practice asceticism and scholarship in solitude for a while."

yes - I'm tired of Lilith getting 'dissed too.
Good to know that there are other, more positive stories about her.

The Gianes (Sardinia)
The daughters of the Larvae, they had a taste for blood, flesh, and bad deeds.
They would attract men, who where immediately seduced by their great beauty.
For a whole week these unfortunate men became their gourds of blood, before dying of exhaustion and anaemia.
The Gianes feeling pleasantly full would go to sleep, and give birth three days later to two or three cannibals. They then would turn into she-wolves to hunt and bring back meat for the greedy brood.
Though as time went by, the gianes slowly became tame creatures who didn't lust for blood and flesh, and turned into good faeries.

In 1749 a geologist discovered a pile of Giane skeletons, painted light blue, whose skulls were decorated with deep blue solar symbols and spirals.

Cannibals to she wolves to sirens. I assume they only gave birth to females.

According to Carl Jung the Shadow is a person's inner demon. It includes all that we hide.

Many people control the shadow with sheer will, but it will spring forth in projections and dreams. Archetypal images of shadw-vampires, devils, and hybrid beasts.

Disarm the shadow by listening for it. "when the Shadow is recognized and respected as a natural part of each psyche and no longer repressed" spiritual growth cn begin.

Like all demons, the Shadow is always changing its guise, so recognizing it is a lifelong process.

No actually, as time went by and they became good faeries, they were able to love, and took husbands who were gianes as well.
The Larvae (which were supposedly offspring from Adam during his solitude by demons who bore his fruit lol.) Only gave birth to femals which were the gianes.

very interesting a lot of lore about babie which is interesting probably retold to make sure mothers watch babies.

Volos
The werewolf god and patron of the volkhvi a very dark practitioner of the dark arts.

lavisbre, is there a "creation" story about the Volos or the Volos' god?

"Gloomy Sunday"

There have been several urban legends regarding the song over the years, mostly involving it being allegedly connected with various numbers of suicides, and radio networks reacting by purportedly banning the song. However, most of these claims are unsubstantiated.[2]

It is also rumored the music played without lyrics will put the listener into a deep sleep and induce vivid dreams and nightmares. The nightmares usually consist of falling or flying sensations.

In 1968, Rezső Seress, the original composer, jumped to his death from his apartment. His obituary in the New York Times mentions the song's notorious reputation:

“ Budapest, January 13. Rezsoe Seres, whose dirge-like song hit, "Gloomy Sunday" was blamed for touching off a wave of suicides during the nineteen-thirties, has ended his own life as a suicide it was learned today.
Authorities disclosed today that Mr. Seres jumped from a window of his small apartment here last Sunday, shortly after his 69th birthday.

The decade of the nineteen-thirties was marked by severe economic depression and the political upheaval that was to lead to World War II. The melancholy song written by Mr. Seres, with words by his friend, Ladislas Javor, a poet, declares at its climax, "My heart and I have decided to end it all." It was blamed for a sharp increase in suicides, and Hungarian officials finally prohibited it. In America, where Paul Robeson introduced an English version, some radio stations and nightclubs forbade its performance.

_I've heard the song "Gloomy Sunday." I think it's pretty, both with and without words. Though, I must say, I did have nightmares about falling to my death after I listened to it, and once I actually fell off my bed. It was rather frightening._

i read about it in the late seventies. Billy Holiday did a cover, and so have Sarah Brightman and Diamanda Galas. it's a beautiful torch song, but it is said to be cursed.

try this
gloomy sunday

you might like to listen to the billy holiday version too - its a bit more upbeat.

there is also a movie i believe.

it goes without saying that Marc Almond did a cover. well he would - i think half his songs were inspired by it.

HEY THANX!!
I LISTENED TO IT.. (A VERSION OF IT IS IN A MOOVIE?)
I DIDN'T REALLY LIKE IT THOUGH AND I DOUBT IT WILL AFFECT MY DREAMS BUT YOU NEVER KNOW!!

OKAY, THE VERSION BY DIAMANDA GALAS IS QUITE HAUNTED..
BUT SHE'S A GODDESS ANYWAY!

thank you so much for that link, Karnstein. I have the Billy Holiday version, but didn't immediately connect it. The link version is beautiful, too.

Lithium, is it your thesis that a demon spirit is infused in the song?

are gnomes demon stock?

They can be rendered inactive with chocolate? Hmmm, I stalk people who give me chocolate --- they might have more.

I like the nora robers books about the human and the prince of the fairies who where trapped apart forever because the prince never said he loved her.

All of my demon and fairy lore is based on my years of playing AD&D.

The Monster Manuals and the Deities to Demigods manuals were a great collection of all creatures and beings and had been based off of stories, ledgends, and myths from all aspects of life.

This crap actually helped me score better grades in middle and high school! The hard part was being a D&D gamer in a southern baptist communitiy in the 80's...

Do you still have the manuals? Post a story from them.

The borrowers, Are little people who take and borrower things from you to learn what it is and make it so they have it for them selfs , they borrow it and give it back after they are done.
There is no way to destroy the borrowers you work with them if you try to destroy them they will out smart you any way.

Yes, I still have all of my manuals, but they are currently in storage.

And they really don't tell stories, but rather provide a description of the creature, discusses its actions and behaviors, attack and defense tactics, etc.

I'll sniff around and see if I can find anything.

The Quantum Daimon: an unidentified flying species inspired by the subatomic universe --- energy flowing everywhere that can be positive or negative --- it is "potential."

Isaac Bashevis Singer thought that before a demon culd enter and take possession of a human being, there had to first be a giving up of will, a lack of hope.

Thinkof Pandora's Box. The box is invisible, and the quantum daemon resides within. It is not one thing or another, it's all in the mindset of the box opener.

I have heard of merrow.
Aren't they like mermaids or something.
Are they really evil.

i have hearded of a djin isnt it middle eastern origin?

twisted lips and aeolus: If you have time, do a google search on merrow and dijinn and see what you find.

Summarize or post here with a link to your ssource. Everyone would enjoy reading what you find.

The Succubus was always my personal favorite. It was a demon in Greek mythology that would appear on top of men while they slept. She would try to have sex with them. And it is said that if the man allowed this, his soul would be pulled with her into hell.



Incubus ~ Same thing, but in male form. An Incubus would victimize women.

I am not sure if it can be considered a fairy or a demon, but the kelpie has always been something that interests me. It originated in Scotland and is supposed to be a shape shifter that takes on the form of a horse (most of the time it's a black horse). It has been known to lure people into water to drown them and consume them. You can identify it by it's constantly dripping mane. I have always thought of the kelpie as a fairy...or a type of fairy spirit. More info on the Kelpie can be found here.

A domovoi (Russian: домово́й; literally, "he of the house") is a house spirit in Slavic folklore. Domovois (the correct plural form is domovye) are masculine, typically small, and sometimes covered in hair all over. According to some traditions, the domovye take on the appearance of current or former owners of the house and have a grey beard, sometimes with tails or little horns. There are tales of neighbours seeing the master of the house out in the yard while in fact the real master is asleep in bed. It has also been said that domovye can take on the appearance of cats or dogs, but reports of this are fewer than of that mentioned before. This information was taken from wikipedia, it and more information on the domovoi can be found here.

I meant to include this at the beginning of the article on the domovoi. "The domovoi is another type of fairy that, like the kelpie is a shape shifter, although it takes on the form of the owner of the house it resides in and not the form of a horse."

Miserable: fascinating. Thank you for your research. According to my Field Guide to Demons, the Kelpie is a Male amphibian. Interesting that the gender is designated, mostly demons come both ways. On the west coast of Scotland it is described as a young, sleek, handsome horse who can shape-shift. No uglee Kelpies, I guess. He's after the fair maidens would be my guess. His skin is like glue, and he entices humans onto his back and gallops away with them into the river where he devours them.

Hmm. Definitely demon stock.

When you're near a Loch, remember Kelpies cannot be exposed to still water --- puddle water or non-fizzy bottled water. Hikers always carry bottled water to toss on the Kelpie. Also never barbeque near a Loch. That will attract a hungry Kelpie fosho.

I wonder why the gender was designated, but then again in quite a few stories of creatures I have come by the genders have been designated.

Why can't they come into contact with still water? I guess I have more research to do lol.

Miserable, one tidbit on the Domovoi. He's generally considered a domesticated presence, a guardian spirit, but like all demonic species can be impulsive or subversive. It's almost impossible to get rid of them, so it's best to learn to live with him. If you move, invite him along, cause he's coming anyway and will be pissed that he wasn't treated with proper respect.

Velvet: Hi, sweetie. Luscious demony's. I'd like to see pictures like this with the babes doing something more than striking a pose. Maybe playing cards or spying on someone.

Bloodmother - I have heard that one way to make sure the domovi (hope I spelled it right haha) feel welcomed in the new home is to put a piece of bread under the stove (or at least that's what I read) to make sure he feels welcomed. And also, that when he gets annoyed he will sometimes burn down the house he had been living in.

The Banshee

The bean-sidhe (woman of the fairy may be an ancestral spirit appointed to forewarn members of certain ancient Irish families of their time of death. According to tradition, the banshee can only cry for five major Irish families: the O'Neills, the O'Briens, the O'Connors, the O'Gradys and the Kavanaghs. Intermarriage has since extended this select list.

Whatever her origins, the banshee chiefly appears in one of three guises: a young woman, a stately matron or a raddled old hag. These represent the triple aspects of the Celtic goddess of war and death, namely Badhbh, Macha and Mor-Rioghain.)The Banshee She usually wears either a grey, hooded cloak or the winding sheet or grave robe of the unshriven dead. She may also appear as a washer-woman, and is seen apparently washing the blood stained clothes of those who are about to die. In this guise she is known as the bean-nighe (washing woman).

Although not always seen, her mourning call is heard, usually at night when someone is about to die. In 1437, King James I of Scotland was approached by an Irish seeress or banshee who foretold his murder at the instigation of the Earl of Atholl. This is an example of the banshee in human form. There are records of several human banshees or prophetesses attending the great houses of Ireland and the courts of local Irish kings. In some parts of Leinster, she is referred to as the bean chaointe (keening woman) whose wail can be so piercing that it shatters glass. In Kerry, the keen is experienced as a "low, pleasant singing"; in Tyrone as "the sound of two boards being struck together"; and on Rathlin Island as "a thin, screeching sound somewhere between the wail of a woman and the moan of an owl".

The banshee may also appear in a variety of other forms, such as that of a hooded crow, stoat, hare and weasel - animals associated in Ireland with witchcraft.

I came across an entry on an creature/entity known as the Bokwus. Many native american cultures tell stories of this spirit, they say that he haunts spruce forests and any human being walking through the trees may sense him watching and catch a glimpse of his (his gender was designated meaning they were only male) war painted face...it doesn't mention any thing that makes it sound like a demon so I looked it up, and I couldn't find any thing, and then I came across an article on the wendigo and they sound kind of similar...maybe it's just another name for the same entity. The Wendigo was part of many Algonquian-speaking tribes belief system. They were malevolent, cannibalistic, supernatural beings of great spiritual power. They were associated with winter, cold, and starvation. They were never satisfied with just one victim they were constantly searching and hunting for new people to consume. It was also said that people can become wendigos after consuming human flesh, they develop an obsession for it. They could also become wendigos by being posessed by one, once they become wendigos, they become violent and obsessed with eating human flesh. Actually the more I read, the more I seriously doubt the bokwus was the same as a wendigo, unless the article left out any thing that would make the bokwus sound like a violent...or evil entity.

I forgot to include this link, here you can find more information on the wendigo.

Miserable, I don't think they're the same. The Wendigo really sounds like a zombie, doesn't it? Except in a more mindful way. I read that their bite can infect a human, make them become cannibalistic.

The earliest sightings of the Wendigo were reported by Jesuit missionaries in the 1600, and diaries kept by the Hudson Bay Company in the 1700s mention the species.

You could be right Bloodmother, and they do sound like zombies, but I have heard they often appear as humans (without the rotting flesh...which I guess some zombies can) and they're quick, strong, and can think, they're about hunting and tracking their prey. I think the only two similarities between the Bokwus and the wendigo is the fact that the Bokwus is in human form and stalks people from trees, the wendigo appears in human form, stalks people, but eventually kills them and consumes them, I don't believe that many people were changed into wendigos, I mean they sound as if their only goal was to consume the flesh of humans, not to make more of them, and I don't really see a human escaping this spirit, because of it's speed and power.

The Field Guide says their are three ways to become a Wendigo: being bitten, dreaming of the Wendigo, or being involuntarily transformed by a malevolent sorcerer.

There are also cases of people choosing to become Wendigo. They go into the forest and offer their flesh.

Dispelling and Disarming: throw excrement at them; this confuses them enuf to offer a small window of escape. Consult a shaman. Kill the possessed person, cut the body into pieces and burn them.

Lots of people probably got eaten while looking around for some poop to throw at the Wendigo.

lol, probably so, and the dream thing is interesting. If you dream about a wendigo and it's not intentional, you still become one? That's weird, and also I wouldn't offer my flesh just to become a wendigo...
I was wondering, this guide you speak of, is it a book, a website, or soemething like that? If it's a book do you think you could like tell me the title of it and the author, I want to find a copy for myself lol.

Sure. I mentioned it in my opening post, but here's the Amazon link. don't know if it's in our database. Hello . . . procurators!

A Field Guide to Demons, FAiries, Fallen Angels, and other Subversive Spirits

I've really enjoyed it. Sometimes you just want to have a book in your hand. I tend to return to my books more often than my bookmarked sites on the computer.

I know what you mean, I have a few books myself but most of them can be rather childish at times, so I am looking for new ones, and to be honest I would rather use a book than the internet sometimes it's just easier to find what you're looking for within a book that you've read like a thousand times lol.

I'd never knock the fairy stories from my childhood. They were full of magic and terror.

Used book stores are good places to haunt. I've found some obscure vampire material in them, and variations on demon tales.

Around here, they (the bookstores) pop up in the weirdest places --- next to a veterinary, a burrito place. Wherever the rent is cheap, I guess.

I started a thread with this info in it once the old thread was closed...but my thread was closed and this one was re-opened and bloodmother asked me to post this here so..here it is lol.
The pooka is believed to be a faery that can shape shift, but favors the shape of a horse, it first appeared in celtic folklore. He can appear as other animals, but he will always have dark fur. He invites unsuspecting travelers to ride him, and then tips them into a bog. However, the pooka doesn't eat his victims like the kelpie, the pooka is more mischevious than dangerous. It can appear as a horse, rabbit, goat, goblin, or dog. He is also said to have the power of human speech and will often give people advice to lead them away from Danger.
-More information on the pooka can be found here.

"Harvey" was my first introduction to the Pooka. Who says you can't learn anything from T.V.

It was an interesting video Bloodmother, I know it is said that pooka's have the ability to change into a rabbit, and even use human speech, but I doubt it would be a 6 foot tall rabbit lol. So when the pooka changes into an animal what are some characteristics that might be useful in identifying one? Like it usually has very dark fur, and in that video it was the creature's height that it made it stand out...so what other things might carry over into the pooka's new form once it changes shape?

very interesting video..

Encountering a Phooka
If a human is enticed onto a phooka's back it has been known to give them a wild ride. But unlike a kelpie, which will take its rider and dive into the nearest river or lake to drown and devour him, the phooka will do the unfortunate rider no real harm. The Púca has the power of human speech, and has been known to give advice and lead people away from danger. Though the phooka enjoys confusing and often terrifying humans, it is considered to be benevolent.

From the site below. She also says they're usually large, and can be rabbits.

You might enjoy this site:

Fantasy Creatures

I finally got around to copying this to this thread.

They sound similar to me. I think that the kelpie might be a horror story of the pooka. Maybe people accidently drowned to death when the pooka dunked them and that became the kelpie theory? Maybe the pooka has different personalities with every animal it can shift too and the kelpie is his horse form? And maybe someone just had an overactive imagination? And thats how the lores came to be.

Here is one for you.

In Iroquois mythology, Dagwanoenyent was the daughter of the Wind who often took the form of a whirlwind. The Seneca Tribe considered her a dangerous witch who could not be killed.

In a tale about Dagwanoenyent, there is an uncle and nephew that live near Dagwanoenyent. Though the uncle forbids the nephew to visit her, he sneaks off frequently to visit Dagwanoenyent and her child. During his visits, Dagwanoenyent ignores the nephew. Each time he plays with the child, he steals a piece of meat from Dagwanoenyent's place. When the child turns 15, he informs the visiting nephew that the two are really cousins. The nephew's uncle is really the child's father and husband of Dagwanoenyent.

When the nephew returns home, his uncle questions him. The boy admits to visiting Dagwanoenyent, stealing meat from her house, and puncturing the bag of bear's oil that hangs above her head. The uncle then grows angry and informs him that because the bag is now broken, they are in great danger.

Soon, Dagwanoenyent comes as a whirlwind, destroys the uncle's lodge and carries him away. The nephew goes to Dagwanoenyent's house to ask his cousin what happened to the man. He doesn't know, but warns the nephew that Dagwanoenyent will come for him the next day.

To escape Dagwanoenyent's fury, the nephew hides in the belly of his guardian, Mole. She soon finds him and kills him, but Mole is able to resuscitate him. Mole and the nephew then find the uncle under an elm tree, which is standing on his chest. The nephew helps his uncle out from under the tre and then goes to Dagwanoenyent's lodge and kills her by burning her body in a fire of bear oil.

Dagwanoenyent soon revives and goes after the nephew. He is able to escape and when she finally retreats back to her lodge, the nephew and the uncle kill her again with fire. This time, though, they remove her bones from the fire and pound them into a fine powder. they then divide the powder into 3 separate bags - one for uncle, nephew, and Mole. They then decide that whenever there is a storm outside, they must keep the bags apart so the powder can't unite and revive Dagwanoenyent.

There is also a legend that Dagwanoenyent gave two brothers three hairs from his head, so that whenever they wanted rain, they were to make the hairs wet and shake off the drops. Heavy rains would soon follow.

Two brothers, one a young man, the other a small boy were one day out in the woods together. They heard a great noise overhead and looking up saw a Dagwanoenyent, an enormous head, flying above them.

The elder brother called out "Gowe! gowe!"

The Dagwanoenyent said, "Thank you. Thank you. You should always sing in that way when you are going to fight. If you do, I will be on your side and kill your enemies for you."

Taking three hairs from his head the Dagwanoenyent gave them to the brothers, saying, "When you want to escape from danger, get water and draw these hairs along in it. When you take them out, drops of water will hang to them and those drops will bring rain." Then the Dagwanoenyent went on, leaving the two brothers.

By those hairs the brothers often escaped from their enemies.

Whenever they wanted rain, they had only to draw the hairs through water and then shake off the drops; right away heavy rain fell. The hairs were long kept by the Senecas.
- Seneca Indian Myths by Jeremiah Curtin [1922

This website has an A-Zlist of different demons.

www.deliriumsrealm.com

Do you have any questions about this? Is there something in particular you wanted to discuss?

I think tales such as these came to be because of people's lack of understanding of the world around them. Back then, they didn't understand why alot of these things happened, such as huge rain storms, or whirlwinds. I believe they made up stories which they believed could explain why these events happened, whether they were used for entertainment or for educational purposes I don't know, but I still believe these stories are created to explain a certain event.

i guess youd have to really search for the answers, if there are any..

Of course, you're right Miserable. First, I wanted to hear the stories. Joseph Campbell has made an extensive study of mythology from multiple sources and across cultures. Demons and fairies and other supernatural entities are the essence of human storytelling. It's a way to transmit values. Ralph Waldo Emerson said that "Demonology is the shadow of Theology . . . the numberless forms in which this superstition has reappeared in every time . . . indicates the inextinguishableness of wonder in man. . ."

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