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I opened this discussion to know whether other like minded people go with change of inner this way.

As I do feel my self many a time as if I were a demon and my wings are right wing as male demon and left wing as female demon. Though i am not special person of psych and do not possess any quality of these things. Yet this knowledge of mutation is important to me and can be gain only with discussion in the forum only.

I think all vampires and swans do go through such experience.

What in all the burning pits of hell are you trying to say , man ?

i think i know what he is saying. we have a spirit body as well as a physical body, but they dont always match.

people who have had limbs amputated claim they can still feel their limbs, and that they often itch.

in the same way, some people can feel limbs they nevr had - like itchy wings, or a tail, or feel that their physical body is the wrong shape and just doesnt feel right.

Well it seem that astral hovering and meditation and other psychic skills are just waste ha-ha.
I am just talking of some time few peepal do feel something different kin they ae inside. and thsi is new good things you added that sense of having the matters such as limbs etc which is not having physically, but having in the inner.

Xanael, and your punctuation and behaviour is doing the same.

If you cannot contribute intelligently to the conversation, pipe down and go whinge elsewhere.

Thank you Requiem, if you can not add to the discussion, do not post.

He sounds like an otherkin. Otherkin are a subculture of people, primarily Internet-based, who identify in some way as other than human. Otherkin often believe themselves to be mythological or legendary creatures, explaining their beliefs through reincarnation, having a nonhuman soul, ancestry, or symbolic metaphor.

Wikipedia link

For more also check out this page from THE coven of the demented mystical minds. this coven was created as a place for otherkin.

It's not uncommon to have an astral body that's different from your physical one, and as the last person said, you could be an otherkin. It's more than a subculture, though more people belong to the subculture than actually are otherkin.

There is the possibility that you're delusional, however...

You are absolutely right about some actually feeling that they are more than human without being delusional. :) Many members of my Coven feel that they have psychic parts that extend well beyond their human body: wings, dragon bodies, and extra limbs

spirite body and mind are the same as demon and angel, As for swans not much the same your just a donor when you are a swan,
and the wings not all demons have wings, and are the same

Hellsboy, that is true. Yet I will stay out of this topic really for I don't want to place down what might seem crazy. Like I said. There are some things I keep to myself. No one needs to judge me like they have the one who had placed this topic down in the first place. :)

Although the astral body has many many facets that are involved which contribute to the behavior of the physical psyche...Does not mean either a right or left wing contribution would subject the individual to a male/female persona or daemonic behavioral change.

I do know what you are getting at, but somehow me thinks someone may be sheets to the wind and just wanting to throw a bone for the merit and value of discussing strictly out of boredom.

Even with the mention of both words "hybrid" and "swan", these two differences as being out of context with one another when relating to a thread of this nature. Please justify your meaning for both words when subjecting them into this type of discussion.

What is the point you are wishing to make, or understanding you are wishing to gain? Validate your thread with an answer of your own, please by all means add your own thoughts.

Speaking of wings, lately i have realised my inner wings are black and feathered.
I had a subconscious vision of me flying through the air with beautiful black wings taller than me and a wingspan more than twice as tall as me.
I also had yellow eyes.
The Creature i was looked like the Angel Of Death.
Does anyone know what it means?

i think we do have a spiritual being per say but i think it matures and grows as we do physically.

I understand where you are coming from but I have not experienced it yet I think my inner being is just being to grow and develops as the outer shell is becoming less subjugated

(GothsonDemon is a nice guy, and English is not his native language)

Thanks Honorable Isis for the booster,

This is true that english is not my first language and I did improve on this literature on net only.

Min a Psychic Vampire my dire is for space energy.

and it is clearly mention in the definition of vampire that the vampire is the kin who dire for energy or senses.

as for my kinship under Vampire kins, My awakening did happen in the demon kin of vampire. I did realize this a lot of time when i was playing outdoor games those days of my boyhood, from that time I am Demon who really bark inside my physical body. I do intake space energy spatially via expanding my subconscious, going into my own womb and after that going to space spatially, these are the step of conscious expansion. there in space gigantic flow of energy and as i do intake such a force inside, am teh demon really bark and can view mysef clearly as skinless only the beast of flesh so why i did put this avator on my profile and its real that after that every object known or first time seen or first time heard, it too all seem as if I know from unknown past milleniums. For min a meditator and in august I am going to meditation commune for 11 days in jungle. I am astral hoverer too.

But my point is that why from couple months ago some time i do feel the mutation of three entities into me as single body. I am surprised too and really i can view them as my wings!

I have no problem with sanunarians for my few elders and teachers are sang. My fate awaken min as psychic vampire. but unless you feel that kin inside how can be you a vampire of that kin which you saying. I am saying that am psychic vamp yes i have plane of it only. my balancing with light side is only with the help of teh psychic energy gained in teh darkth. Or am very loose and sick person if I wont get space energy or aura in substitute so that in lone time I can get space energy.

Well swan such as black swan I must refer

are the kin who do respect vampires and do boost their living and do not object or condemn them for their dire. Rather help them. They are swan not for their natural like to every kin but they have special attachment to the vamp kin. This attachment must be based on something its not only blood or senses relation this i was curious and wished to trace out with the discussion along with the type of mutation the vampires do have in its awakening ( realized the realm of their inner )

I think someone is concentrating too much on the Strigoi belief system as partaining to the black veil system.

i agree totally with the theory that our spirit bodies change and grow as we do.

i believe that our spirit body is kind of like our "reaction" if you will to the physical world we see around us (if that makes sense!).

i think that different parts of it can be interpretted in different ways - for example, the presence of wings could be a sign of solidarity, a feeling of introversy or maybe simply a form of escapism..

hope that made sense :)

I never really thought about it like this, but I imagine that could be very possible, your spirit would be able to sence that a specific part was misingif you were in a body that did not match it, very good post and most interesting observation.

Hmmm...

Can't say that I can reflect on my spirit reflection in anyway. Guess I am to wrapped up in reality. I guess it would be a "spiritual blindness" that i have at times.

Ah such a touchy subject
Male n female one is in denial good n bad one is over powering.
Terms being used are linked with groups, to be a black swan you food for the mass my messed up friend.
I feel for you call unfortunately your asking the wrong group as in the sense you will get loads of different answers.
Interesting you had both wings, really looks like your programming is based on Christian beliefs or delusions

Hell ~Lav~, at least he did not imply that he invisioned himself having the wings of the metatron.

I was just going to say something about past lives. Sometimes (depending upon your belief) your past lives may creep into the present and cause things to manifest in ways such as you describe.

Most astral bodies are different then the normal one, its all in what and who you really are.

Well demon is I am its sure for I do bark in the hostile or in silent space in the form of demon. But i do surprise of my this period of say 4-5 months that I do feel in inner many spirits as one i am already but two more demon winged to me! they are not in access of my spirit but they are in access of my wishes. I did know that you will eject or laugh at my posts but to find answer to quest and to know your own experience about the awakening this discussion is most necessary so that i can reach on any belief on the winged demons which is in access of my wishes but are not my own spirit though they are felt part of inner body. Inner I am demon it is sure but did not think of two more demon inside me and attached to me which is by spirit am not but they are part of my subtle body.

And its not only one topic of discussion. But i have to analyse the awakening of others too. may i come to any conclusion. I did see my present physical human body away from me in my spiritual awakeing. and I know spiritual awakening is different from vampire awakening.

I just wish to know the answer t othis quest too that why i have in two other independent demon spirits winged to me as part of my subtle body but they are not my own spirit.

And I just wished to know if any one awaken to any kinship such as we vampire and what kin tehy are in their inner if they are psychic.

As for my opinion is Vampire is vast and inclusive as it refer to dire for energies and senses. Its not only restricted to sang or psychic but otherkins too included in this term for tehy have such thriving dire for energies.

I believe that such a mutation would be possible, but it would desire extreme levels of inner self intenton, wich should than activate the inner mechanisms, and energeticly, on spiritual, and phsical level, cause the change to occur, the final transformation, and to stay that way as the final result of that intense desire/intention.