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can i just ask "who was it that said a blue pencil is blue or any colour for that matter?"i hate to be a sheep and i had a discussion with a friend of mine years ago for 3 hours over this question *i guess we were bored huh lol*

I have no clue buddy...

forget blue.blue is over.orange.

green.green doesn't exist for it;but then what does light?

no, the dude has a point. how do you know that what you see is at the same color as what other people see. I mean, how do you know that your yellow is the same as somebody else's?

its like me asking how do u know water is wet, its only when u touch it, and the feeling is processed through ur brain as being wet.

but its a good question

It's all about perception we all view the world differently. That's what makes us all unique and keeps things interesting. As for the pencil comment I have no idea who said it sorry. Just remember: "There is no spoon."

what a pencil got with pens lol! no i dont know what ur talking about but i like green pens and pencils!

I don't know how many times i wondered about who gave the names to everything

blue isn't always blue.

If it is the letter "o" it is brown.

Period.

My alphabet is multicoloured, no matter what colour the text is.

Synesthesia is the reason behind this.

Blue isn't always blue.

"Synesthesia is an involuntary joining in which the real information of one sense is accompanied by a perception in another sense. In addition to being involuntary, this additional perception is regarded by the synesthete as real, often outside the body, instead of imagined in the mind's eye. It also has some other interesting features that clearly separate it from artistic fancy or purple prose. Its reality and vividness are what make synesthesia so interesting in its violation of conventional perception. Synesthesia is also fascinating because logically it should not be a product of the human brain, where the evolutionary trend has been for increasing separation of function anatomically."

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LMAO.......lol
my dad use to say, " you have to believe what I tell you because I am the teacher, so if I tell you up is up then its up even if everyone else says its down.
I still have trouble to this day with left and right, cuz my dad taught them to me backwards, He got called to the pricipals office 4 times in my kindergarten year for teaching me the wrong stuff.

can anybody put this into english for me?

I don't know about you, but my pencil is black.

well technically a blue pencil is not really blue but every color but blue. it s the blue wavelingh photons thas reflected while the others are obsorbed and that also explains that that everyone sees the same colors unless somethings not working right with your eyes

I think I got what he said(or hope lol)

People tend to brainwash us and to believe the things they want, not the things us want.For example we are born in a country,we have to have the same religion of our family, cause that's what our family teaches us,and tell us what is wrong and good to them,in base of what they are taught,then we go to school, teachers teach us education in base of what it is written,the countries' laws,culture etc...and tell us we have to live with it cause it is that what makes us of that country,then we are teenagers and have to socialise,and act like our mates....but who said that, at that time we can't choose to be an individualist?

At a certain age we are mature enough to choose to 'think different', but who really does it?We are taught to be unique,but is that really true?

For example have you ever tought that what you were taught as a child,is really true, or right?Don't you think that there is more then you were taught, and what if your 'teachers' are wrong?To continue with the colour thing:In life there aren't only black and white there are also shades...sorry why for confusing you but I couldn't make it more clear.

I think I rather have a purple crayon. :)

Didn't verify this but, isn't the concepts of 'blue' and 'green' reverse in Japan? Not all concepts are the some in different cultures. Ex. what is the difference between a stream and a brook? or a lake and a pond? Without someone telling us what 'that is' we would be very confused indeed.

em... who said that the silver thing with the things is a fork?
who said it's silver.... why is it the 20 and not the 21 then the 20.....
NO ONE CARES hehehehehe
i'll start calling mirrors.... fuck i forgot... it's in a kurt vonnegut book, breakfast of champions. i think it'd be a good read for you
starter of this post :)

now this is a good thought provoking thread.....
I thought that the question was about who names things and how the do it.....
it really is something that has long plagued me.....but what is plagued?who strung those specific letters together into a single word....and why those letters?
damn...im getting into rant mode...i'll leave off there....
oh and requiem....
I have blue pop rocks for you

My friends have a green pole theory, we were discussing this sat night with my friends, we were trying to dermine, biological and social definition of colours.. if you tell a child blue is green they will forever label blue as green.. isn't english the most limited language to do with colour desription?

I see that Im not the only one who was contemplating about this...
What if we really dont see the same think just name it the same way.

people are confusing the actual colors from what we name them we can call them whatever name we want but that doesn't change what they are the supatomic particle photon at a certain wavelengh that is reflected to your eyes where the other wavelengs are obsorved the resulting color can be names anything

thats subatomic I errored in spelling before

lol you wouldn't figure one question as simple as that would get so many diff answers lol either we are easiely amused or we think too much ...... me i will take the first i am ealely amused lol

hehe E.D is that subbost to be blue cause it's a bit purple lol

elder daniel really has this down. what a great topic. when one look at the grass, he sees green. we all know that the grass is green. we were all taught what green is, how green looks, and green, as e/d has been saying, is measurable. but, as the original poster proposed, how does one know that what he sees as green is not what he perceives red to be in the eyes of someone else?

The real discussion is truly about perception.
Pencils have nothing to do with that...

The only thing I can think of about Blue Pencil is Liar Liar when Jim Carry tried to write down that his Pen was Red, when it was blue.

all the colers nad the names are just a point of talking... nothing more. you should feel it. if not then you just dont see. blue or black... that's dosent meter.

Black isn't a color though.

i am lost where are the street signs in here.

Black is the presence of all that is color.

Actually, black would be the opposite. The lack of all that is color. We gauge color by what spectrum of light is reflected. Black objects absorb the entire spectrum of light.

um... blue, is... blue, we just made up names for shit, lol

It looks blue now E.D ^-^

heh, i dunno what that even means... but err.. i dunno who said it either. in fact, i dont know anything. *my brain* :(

Ummm there's a blue pencil???
Yay no more standard black for me.....

Bumpety bump, back to the front.

In a sence, nothing is what it is... The only trhing that can make it true is if you believe it is...

What matters is what you believe in things to be, not how society and the masses deem that you believe......

Everything has been named . leave it alone dont over think the subject . Look at it as a break less for us to do . Its all been done before

my friends and i have the theory that we all see color alittle bit different...
-ecstasy