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Will microwaving blood from steak or ground beef kill bacteria?




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i think so for in away it is cooking the blood which kills the bacticera in it but i would double check just to be safe



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It isnt the microwave that kills the bacteria persey,but in fact,the heat the microwave preduces in the food.
I would think about this if I were you because microwaving decreases the nutritive value food..blood included .Microwaves also change the molecular structure in food and blood so really,whats the point if you are looking to get something "out" of the blood.



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Since it is considered cooking it will kill the bacteria as well as many of the nutritional value you are aiming to get out of it. So safety for health, yes it does kill bacteria, but will also make the meat less nutritional in the process.



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There is many things to take in factor.. cause some have to be killed at a certain temp.. however it you buy the best steak.. you dont have to worry about it if you cook it proper.. I eat mine very rare.. just a sear on each side and I have never gotten sick



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Yes, cooking it is advisable for safety but as they say, it will diminish the food's nutrients as well, humans are animals and like the others, the meat should be eaten fresh and raw, sadly years of evolution stuck in buildings and eating out of tins among other things have made humans too fragile to eat meat like that now, take note that humans are omnivores and do not have a strict biological system for just eating meat.

Blood...well, if you want it, go for it. Blood has never made me sick, it comes with the steaks and it makes the meat juicy.



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I prefer an aberdeen angus steak rare, which is 14 ounce. Though when I got blotto a few weeks back, I could of gotten a 22 ouncer! I regret not getting it but the money I saved got me a nice lap dance instead. Anyway the blood from those steaks is not bad for you at all, well never bothered me anyway.



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Yes the heat will kill harmful bacteria, but it doesn't need to be heated for long. I have my own steak rare to medium rare. I'm a fan of sirloin steak that's nice and bloody.



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I agree.. I love it quickly seared and nothing else..



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There is no visible blood on ground beef or raw steaks sold in grocery stores. The red juice is a protein and fat, myoglobin.

http://www.fsis.usda.gov/Factsheets/Beef_from_Farm_to_Table/index.asp#13



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Actually, you don't have to COOK the meat. The only part of a steak that you would have to worry about would be the surface, so getting an outside temperature on the outside alone of 165 degrees would kill any harmful bacteria. If you just went for a sear, and left the meat "raw" in the middle it would be perfectly safe to eat.

My Mom is Serve Safe Certified, my sister is Serve Safe Certified, and I am Serve Safe Certified. Hamburger you have to cook all the way because the surface has touched the inside and been mushed together.

However, I have found something that may interest everyone. I was searching online for ways to get blood, and found out that pig's blood is used in the making of blood sausage. There are sites online that sell dried pig's blood for about $10 for 2.2 lbs, plus shipping and handling. I'm trying to contact some sausage makers about how much the blood would cost. And then there's the problem that the dried blood is dead, and drained of life force. I was also told that spring water has said life force. So you could use Spring water to rehydrate the blood putting the life force back in to the blood. Wouldn't that work? Then we'd get the blood and life force we need. I'm thinking it would because pig's organs have been used in humans for organ transplants. And pig's insulin is used in humans to help diabetics. My Late-Grandmother was taking insulin from both humans and pigs. Any ideas?



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Fresh lambs liver is way more tasty than steak or other meats as the animals are so young, also safer. Best with bacon and mash, although if in crisis just blend it ;)



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I get my steaks from pubs and steakhouses, much better than anything you can buy yourself at the groceries. Also I get to become blotto so its a win win. It would be so much simpler if people could just hunt, kill and eat but as I said in a previous post, human stomachs are not built just for a strict carnivorous diet and there is the chance that the meat has some nasty parasite in it. I can't recall what its called exactly but there is a parasite that once ingested through devouring of fresh meat, will make its way to your brain and can do some serious damage.

Beef/steak does retain some small amount of blood though but like that link says, beef is 3/4 water, I honestly don't really care what the liquid is, I just prefer my steaks rare and juicy, whatever the red liquid is, it sure is tasty.

If someone really wants to know if blood is safe, just drink some and find out, go to the butchers and order it, drink it outside and if you collapse in agony (after a certain length of time) then lesson learned but if you're fine, then knock yourself out with more.



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There are actually several parasites in raw meat if uncooked to death. Literally. Trichinosis (sp?) is a worm found in pork, and tape worm is the one that CAN go to your brain. But I think even the places that it would be "scary" to get meat from have at least the protections in to not get those parasites. If those parasites were found in a human there is a paper trail that is longer than the world is round and the government could find the exact place those parasites were found and they'd get fined, closed down, and never allowed to breed beef or pork for food again. And in case you think that's nothing, check out how much a cow is sold for...in entirity. And a cow weighs a good 800lbs I think Depending on how close to slaughter it is. If you watch those Monster Inside me shows, I've yet to find it where the person got a parasite from eating anything purchased anywhere. It's usually because they ate something raw from a stream that they caught...for example. Just sayin.



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I meant fresh meat as in recently killed i.e something you just hunted and killed, its risky for humans to eat it because of the parasites you mentioned among other things though its possible that stores or slaughterhouses can end up with the bugs.



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I have never had any trouble with a steak barely cooked, which is how I prefer it. I have however, had a serious case of food poisoning from improperly cooked hamburger. I agree that the juices should be warmed properly, but as in breast milk, microwaving can destroy the nutrients in the meat and blood.



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Smiles, all good points but lets be safe, I spoke to a close relative who is an Environmental Health officer PHD and Lamb really is best as the parasites do not have time to develop, plus the mothers immune system is still working within the animal. You can pretty much cut its head off and fill your boots.



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I suppose whats most disturbing about this thread, it's posted by a middle aged women asking about cooking with a microwave. Not all women can cook, allegedly.

I highly suggest ordering a pizza! Get a grill, oven or pan fry your meat!


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Darkness-well yes, there is always a possibility. Now a days people don't defecate in the streets with cows and horses and pigs. I'm sure they still exist in the wild, but pigs aren't allowed to wallow in their feces any more for the reason of Trichinosis (sp?) et al. Cow feces is cleaned up regularly and taken away usually to be used as fertilizer. Horse stalls are cleaned out daily again et al. I bet if you asked a doctor when most parasites were transmitted to humans it was before we were a clean society. I say most because someone could have been a motion, bought tapeworm eggs, were them, and infected people. I've eaten completely raw beef, I'm fine. So are the hundreds that have eaten beef Wellington...raw meat.



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Fire Serpent-that'ss the problem with Home Economics being taken our of schools!



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"I suppose whats most disturbing about this thread, it's posted by a middle aged women asking about cooking with a microwave. Not all women can cook, allegedly.

I highly suggest ordering a pizza! Get a grill, oven or pan fry your meat!"

Or you know, eat your food raw XD but got to be careful though.

There may be a cleaner society now but there are more problems than ever before, though not to do with food but recessions and economic problems, taxes etc.

It was much more simple in the hunt and kill days but every era and time has its own risks.



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LadyRain, sorry my reply was rude. Just poking fun at a cooking with a microwave thread. I'd suggest using a thermometer to make sure it's done in the microwave.


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I throw mine on the grill for one minute on both sides and than eat it. I am accused of liking it while it is still mooing- not quite but almost



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microwaves can kill a lot of things, but as for parisite I would say since microwave is all about "heating" up the electrons in the food sort of speak, then its all about will it reach the temperature require to kill the specific parasite you wish to kill?

as as it was mention, a thermometer is a good thing, and for cooking in a pan I found out at times it is faster then the microwave without the outline burned of the food and the tasteless part, as in the pan for a 35 secondes more of preparation you get a nice tast extra: garlic, onions, pepper? whatever is your favorite

but bottom line is: what is the required temprature to kill the parasite/bacteria



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i try to stay away from microwaving anything, just doesn't seem like a good idea - though cooking anything that is "living" will kill it, hard to say what in meat is still "alive" once it gets to market



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http://www.fsis.usda.gov/FACTSheets/Meat_Preparation_Fact_Sheets/index.asp

I would highly advise this page for you.
I hope the link will work
Im an executive chef and everyone should know the dangers that lurks.



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Microwaves ruin food it takes out the flavor.. and I would not heat meat up of any kind in the microwave..



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microwaving is the key word in the question asked. I do not recommend using a microwave to cook your meat, because a microwave do not cook as a whole but by pieces at the time.



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I never really took home econimics classes in school. i was always interested in the things the guys were more then the girls were, I hate cooking so nver really learned how. I just wasn't interested in it. My dad mostly raised me and we never really cooked any thing .... LOL!



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Microwave Directions
When microwaving unequal size pieces of beef, arrange in dish or on rack so thick parts are toward the outside of dish and thin parts are in the center; cook on medium-high or medium power.
Place a roast in an oven cooking bag or in a covered pot.
Refer to the manufacturer's directions that accompany the microwave oven for suggested cooking times.
Use a meat thermometer to test for doneness in several places to be sure the apropriate temperatures have been reached.


In short, yes, it can kill bacteria.



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I would never cook meat in a microwave, an open fire or a oven/grill is better.

Though I never really liked bloodied stake or any bloodied meat for that matter...Makes me feel sick just thinking about it.

Give me fish any day. lol



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steaks can be cooked in a microwave, its a certain tempt the meat has to reach to kill bacteria...there is a ceramic heat plate you can use to cook steaks in a microwave you put the plate in and heat it first put the steak in and it sears it like a pan would



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microwaved food gives you bowl cancer



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I don't know... You would assume so given what's taught in uhhh cooking classes, health classes and even science classes... but some bacteria can live through just about anything.



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I know it's slightly off topic, but have you ever tried a blood wine recipie? It's not bad. If you get cows blood, filter it and add it to red wine. You have to keep it cold and not longer than a week. But as long as it's shaken well it is pretty good.



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That isn't off topic actually sence I was asking about the microwaving of Blood... LOL!



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It is just slightly. But I suppose since the title is blood it would fit. *laughs*



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Blood wine eh? that is somewhat amusing considering some religious fold think red wine is blood of christ. lol


I might try that one day, always like to try something new and if its alcohol then I'm in.



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If you do be sure to get the instructions on how to make it. I got it from my mentorship.

And now that you mention it is kind of ironic, is it not?



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Indeed...and I'm sure I said folk not fold, how did that happen? ha never mind.

Well I'll be sure to check it out.


Blood is not such a rare thing to consume since many countries have blood as a meal, I just cannot recall of them at the moment but there is blood sausage, black pudding and blood soup I think. I can't remember right now but many countries have their own way to serve blood.



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Cooking it does make it safer but not more nutritional



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I really do think experiments on the Blood Life particles are overdue. They are delicate, sunlight and energy damage them, microwave, yuck.
Theoretical physics, just as Light gives life to the shell and skin perhaps his Dark counterpart gives life in the darkness within, thus maintaining balance.
Just a thought.



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Bloodwine- does that mean Klingons are vampires?

I know about blood sausage from talking to the Brits around here, but I think as far as Blood wine is concerned the alcohol would take care of most anything in the blood-

I know it does a helluva job on me...



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In slaughter houses in Russia it's the norm for the workers to drink warm pigs blood mixed with vodka to keep warm



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And tribes in Africa drink fresh goats blood they love to eat the congealed blood clots that's a delicacy. one lucky child gets to eat the blood clots every time ")



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Black Pudding can be cooked in the microwave



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I only put certain types of food in the microwave and I would never cook a steak in there. It would come out tough. I personally don't care for steak that much but I do like ground beef but I eat it well done or to the point of barely pink. So of an indoctrination from my Mother. She could everything to well done.

As for colon cancer, it is not the only way to get it. Quite frankly if you walk, talk and eat almost everything can give you something. One has to draw their own lines and be careful about food preparation. We eat foul the most. I tried the vegetarian route when I was managing a health spa...sorry I'm too much of a meatasaur and couldn't do it for long and never Vegan.

I didn't think all the run off was actually blood and if kosher it definitely would not be. I don't know if blood would have much value for the reason most want it, if put in a microwave.



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Haha I find vegans to be an abomination but that is just me and my carnivorous diet speaking, it almost suits humans to be vegans because at the end of the day, they are near the bottom of the food chain no matter what they like to believe.

Blood sausage, black pudding and blood soup is a few I am familiar with but there quite a few different dishes out there, plus one could always eat their meat raw (fresh kill) which will come with quite a bit of blood but there are obvious risks there. Humans are weak,so its probably best to eat safe since not many are used to living like nature intended.



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Steak only holds bacteria on the outside unless it is festered and rotten in which case you wouldn't eat it anyway....at least I wouldn't advise it based on what I know about it lol....ground beef has been processed so will have some levels of bacteria in it, but if cooked through wether in a microwave or any other method should be safe enough....might go a bit hard though lol.....



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I would also advise that if you microwave blood in a sterile container it might be much more successful and less likely to congeal if you keep it covered....you can sterilise the container with boiling water, and perhaps warming it in a saucepan of hot water would be better, like you would a baby's bottle of milk...less likely to cause congealment lol....



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Boil it. My personal suggestion though is a human donor.



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Yes it would kill the bacteria.



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Using microwaves to heat blood up and the effects on the person drinking it.

One short-term study found significant and disturbing changes in the heated blood of individuals consuming microwaved blood. All blood proteins that were processed through the microwave ovens caused changes in the blood of the volunteers. Hemoglobin levels decreased and over all white cell levels and cholesterol levels increased. Lymphocytes decreased.
The biological Effects of Exposure of microwaving blood studies have shown that breakdown of the {life's energy field}, degeneration and circuit breakdowns within the front portion of the brain where thought and higher functions reside, loss of balance, long term cumulative loss of vital energy and long lasting residual effects.
The vital energy field of all tested blood, marked acceleration of structural disintegration in all blood cells tested.
So, health wise it may not be such a good idea, but yes it should kill any bacteria....


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And lamb indeed is succulent but filet mignon is delicious and my favorite next to directly feeding from my source.


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When i lived in Spain, its the culture their that after the bull fight the use the left over blood in the bull and drain it and bring the fresh blood to the local bars surrounding the area and the locals drink it, they say the blood of the bull makes you strong...this is true....i was their.
They also will cut off the horn and the ear of the freshly killed bull and throw it to the audience as souvenirs.
People go crazy for it...its a wild time.

I miss Europe...

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yes but you run the risk of radioactive poisoning.id never eat nuked foof.dont want to contract gastric cancer



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Yeah, but it will also burn the blood so that it wont taste right.
Vampires are resistant to diseases, viruses, and w.e else. They may have a sickness once in a while to get rid of things unsettling to them, but other than that.
Although, please don't drink blood because even though I'm going strong doesn't mean you should. I have a different nature. I'm built to withstand constant torment.



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There are microwave cooking containers that would help although you should season the meat and add a lil water to the container to keep the meat moist



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I agree an 16 to 18 oz ny strip or sirloin stull mooing hits the spot for a few days.



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Okay, is it just me or is this forum making me hungry? The meat has been processed so I do not believe that hamburger meat would be a very good blood source... The hamburger meat also has to be cooked all the way through to kill all the bacteria... May I suggest a nice huge bloody steak?



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I snorted so hard at some of the answers.

I can just imagine telling the ER nurse that you are extremely ill (dehydration) due to food poisoning.
"What did you eat or drink that could have caused this?"
'Uh... Animal blood.'

LOL. :')



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People in Africa drink cow blood all the time.. straight from the cow, pretty much. But, then again I'm sure their animals aren't full of all the hormones and what not that our animals are.



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True I was seeing a documentary about that on the history channel, and also what was odd to was that they were not aging as fast as most people in the u.s either. I wonder if the cows blood may have had something to do with this or not. Of course that could be a whole new thread for some one to talk about!



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In the past when we didn't treat the planet so cruelly with pollution and doctor our food so much I would say maybe doing some of these things is safe but now I don't think so.

I feel sorry for those who consider themselves sanguinary vampires at times. Often it is very difficult to find a donor and unless it was someone you knew with the doctor exams was OK, drinking blood to me is a health hazard.

I wasn't allowed to eat undercooked meat when I was a child so I got used to it. I didn't even think about what I preferred because it would always be what my Mother preferred. I'm not sanguinary but I do know that the History Channel did a documentary on cannibalism and they stated that about 30 percent of society could drink blood in amounts much larger than the average emetic effect that happened to most.

In myth, cannibalism was equated with the werewolf. It was supposedly the hallmark sign for it, including drinking blood. This is why many things written about vampires are entwined with the myths from the werewolf.

Scandanavians and many places in Europe eat foods that are infused with blood. The Masai use to have a diet predominately of milk and cows blood. Obviously blood is nourishing in some way. Nomads use to take extra horses so they could bleed them if they ran out of food. It is just in some cultures, Americans quite frequently, there is a taboo about blood drinking.

Perhaps in certain cultures they have seen youthfulness but that may be to do with whatever else they are combining with it or their overall lifestyle. Personally I have never been sure of the value after it is taken fresh from its source.



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Forgot, as far as microwaving I don't think so from an article I read recently. Cook it on the stove until well done, that is your best bet but it really is about temperature. I would look it up.



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just make sure the blood doesn't pop and explode or something ;-; be a pretty disturbing site.. yucky meat and blood all over the microwave walls ;-;
yeah somewhat hilarious.
if anything explodes, post a picture :D



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There are specialised cooking bags that are compatible for both the microwave and the regular oven



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Don't microwave it, I usually boil mine over the stove. The process I go through is this: I get the bloodiest sausage I can find from this little meat shop I have in town. The butcher knows me so usually all I have to do is call to pick it up. Then I take it home, rinse it off, and put it in a shallow bowl. Then I take a wide knife, and press the blood out of it. Then I chop the sausage up into little slices to get out any left over blood. I put the meat away to cook for later, and pour the blood into a small saucepan. I'll do this several times so that I have almost a pots worth. I bring it to a boil and then once it's done boiling, store it to drink later. Although if I'm having a bad day it doesn't hurt to have a little warm blood. It's kinda like blood hot chocolate. ^.^ hope that helped! ~Leda



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