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The chaos star (called a 'chaosphere' by some practitioners) is the most popular symbol of chaos magic. Many variants exist.

first, thanks for putting up a chaosphere...always good to see one.
and yes, to a point will is magick.
even crowley, and Austin osman spare viewed magick as being everything you do.
therefore true magickal power comes when you live a magickal existence. therefore...if you're taking a shit, you just did magick, or whether you open a door, you just did magick.
if it is your will, then it is magick
...granted, thats only some peoples point of view...but as nothing is true, it's just as "valid" as anything else.
-in chaos, contra lux

I would think that casting in and of itself is an act of will, therefore will power would be majick...I was once told by someone that lighting candles was making majick, and depending on the color of the candle-or in my case the color of the glass around it-decided the kind of majick you were making

That is what I do redqueen...I always do candle majick and like you said depending on the color of the glass , Is the kind of majick I do...And also the candle, as well

Yes. Through will power you can change your life, habbits, behavior and concequently, the ambience arround you. Without will power, you will not achieve anything, but frustration, and the sense of useleness.
Will power=personal magik

Now, this is what I believe 'magik' is. I think its being in tune with your environment, nd knowing how to utilise your will.

oops I just realized a spelling error,,I ment magick,, I am so not w/ it

i agree with TearsOfArakiel, will power is personal magic.

Thats a nice way of putting it actually :-)

I think if you want something badly enough, it will happen. That could be will power.

yeah will power works

I agree with Echo.

Magick in all forms I believe to be an extension of the power of the mind.

Prayer, ritual, and so on, I consider to be nothing more then focal points to allow the parts of our mind we aren't used to using to emerge, and our feeble little minds to have a rationalization for it.

Well said Duc...I agree totally....

:)

It is very possible...

So far I concur, will power is your personal magic. In most massage/acupuncture schools they also teach this- under the term intent.

We really are amazing creatures, if we just explore ourselves...

You have to have will power in everything.As for magic the first thing to have to make it happen, is to believe in it,second will power, third the rest.

i have not got the will power to stop smoking....

Bend reality to your will.. hmm.

That's a good question. Whether or not one's capable of doing so, I'm unable to tell.

Oops..Spelling is on my "must know how" list...Portugueese girl here..*shrugs*

there is no such thing as reality

with enough concentration and internal energy (and training), you should be able to do some stuff with your will.

yea,i belive so...

anything's possible.

willpower is only the beginning, will is the force behind the act. Yes a person can use sheer force of will to achieve a goal, but the castings are meant to focus and enhance the will of the individual or group.

That is what makes the difference between a good caster and a great caster.

yes will pwer is magick and a certaintly much of a part of magick...with only and in parts with other magick...... will power is a force to make the magick work..... its a will of saying it is to be....

I agree with FatherRath, "will is magic," bit perception is a very singular perspective. You can will yourself right into a psych word.

I like to relate to this like jokes; "(jokes) aren't funny if you are the only one who is laughing." If you will yourself into believing something and you are the only one who believes it, it simply is not reality.

My $.02

i think will power is for yourself... and the things you do for yourself (body-wise)

once i told a friend to get off his comp or ill turn it off usingmy mind lol

subseqeuntly there was a power surge at his house that turned everything off but the the comp,
damnit :(

With your will you can do anything. If you will it it will happen. Tis only the begining steps.

will power is mind body action control nothing else not magic otherwise greedy ppl would know about it for sure any advantage and use it so i believe if you are keen you will achieve or accomplish nothing else

i believe there are lots or diferent powers. but one of the strongest is the will power. this is why it works even for people who is not so deeply into magic.
all you need is believe :)))

will power is one of the strongest thing on this earth ,so if stong enough will someone has this it can

i agree with fallenangel

im wiccan, and i belive that will is the strongest power there is

yes if you have the will power you can do almost if not anything you want to do

sometimes willpower is enough to do that

yes if u want it bad enough

It is possible for those that posess the Chaos element like myself.

will power is not magic.I say it is the measure of ones spirit. The ability to withstand or endure what is put before you.Think about it not every one can drop bad habits i.e smokeing.The ability to with toucher.The ability to go on when there is no hope in sight.Were some may put a gun to there head others seem to have some hidden strength that seems to keep them going.It's not magic but spirit some have stronger spirits then others.This is just my opinion.

I agree with Echo, being in tune with your surroundings will help greatly. Will is a powerful form of Dispelling magic and Creating it.

LordActon- Magic is not without willpower, like anything else.

what s possibe without the will to do it? If you wish to believe that we live in a society where the power to do things drops into your lap??

Echo will power has nothing to do with magic.nor do I believe it just happens to drop into your lap.You are right about it take will power to do most any thing.I would also point out that there are many different level to will power.Some are strong and others weak.

I think will power is a source of magic. A while ago a grandpa was working on his car and he had his two grand children horsing around the car. The thing that keeps the car up somehow broke and one of the children was under it. The grandpa lifted the car up like he was a 25 year old overmusceld beast (i saw this on the news a long while ago).

I think motivation is the key to let your will power over come you and do unexplained things. That is magic.

Magick:
Aleister Crowley said it best: "Magick is the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity to will"
www.moonbeamgarden.com/witchscottage/wiccan_pagan_glossary.htm

1) art of bringing about changes in the physical world by the use of the power of the mind; action in accordance with will. 2) the movement of natural energies to create needed change. 3) the process of building up the natural energies of certain objects for a purpose, then releasing it. 4) a natural practice of mind over matter.

www.ancientpathway.com/reference/glossary.html

So, yes, I think magick has a lot to do with will power, LordActon