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what are your views on this type of feed, do any of you feed this way aswell?

Astral Life Force
Through the technique of astral travel, astral life force is drained from desired humans. Astral contact is valued for the life force drawn.
Several variations of this can be achieved through practice and WILL.
Pranic energy is not the only aspect of a draining, the draining of clairvoyance, skilled knowledge or other various aspects of the human can be obtained.
Blood Essence or Astral Life force is first and foremost described through the act itself, as with all rituals, the growth from the actual experience itself, rises beyond what is learned in text or other forms of education.
The hunting Vampyre can travel at will, change and shift, shape shifting from form to form as desired.

Ah. A good and deserving topic, Lord Ryu.

I have tried this one and yielded some very interesting results. Astral projection and feeding off another is much like the behavior displayed by a succubus/ incubus.

I have been out and about in astral form before, but had never used it for feeding purposes. I let my friend know what I was planning and in the dead of night, I stepped outside. The feed, for some reason, felt actually more powerful than usual feeding, which I determine was due to the higher level of concentration and "letting go" that has to be achieved before astral projection is even remotely possible.

So yes, while it's a viable method of feeding, I can only do it imperfectly and oddly enough, since that one time I haven't been able to repeat the experience.

I am glad you enjoy this topic my sister.
Practice is need to be able to do it when ever one needs my sister the more you do it the better you will become at it as in all things.

A very good topic indeed, my Brother.

I have feed this way in the past,usually with variying results,and never without the consent of thse being visited, as Jenova pointed out,its akin to the draining as from a incubus/succubus, but for me the Pranic feeding is always much stronger thru the actual contact with my donor, or donors, as the case may be, for the most part though,projection for me isn't as satisfying as the actual contact, Be Well

Ok....

I've never fed using the Astral life force, but I've been fed from that way. To me, it feels as though my energy's being slowly extracted from my body and in my opinion, it walks the line of pleasure and not-quite-pleasure. It only feels weird when I'm not expecting it. Actually, when I'm not expecting it, the feeling of pleasure/not is taken away completely and replaced with sock/anger/fear. But that's just me. I don't like those kinds of surprises.

Interesting responses indeed.

Again, I would argue that astral feeding might be stronger due to a few reasons:

Psy vamps feed energetically at the subtle body's level (chakras, auras, and the like). My experience is that if one is using their subtle body to visit and feed from another, the attraction of energy to energy is stronger than when there are two physical bodies are in the way, so to speak.

Eliminating one physical shell results in closer and more immediate contact on the subtle level.

As hellsguardian pointed out, there is also something to be said from being present physically while draining energy. It is more pleasurable for both physical shells, for one. And physical touch, as has already been mildly discussed on this forum, carries with it a lot of power in the sharing between two people.

this is the reason i always ask first,i have manners and wont feed from just anyone

I haven't ever been able to achieve Astral Projection of my own will,
but as you said it takes practise,
and to be frank,
it isn't something I tend to think about on a daily basis.

But I would think the effect would strongly depend on the power of the projection, would it not?
So for some,
strong projectors it could be a wonderful way to feed.

And also,
what about drug induced projections?
Ketamine is known to cause such out-of-body expiriences, is it not?

it's a viable way of feeding. It takes a learned psychic vampire to do. As Jenova found out, even then it can be difficult to pull off. I do not feed from this format as I'm a sang vampire with latent psi tendencies only. My connection to psi abilities is extremely low so I do not know if I'd be able to astral feed. It would be easier to do feed undetected though.

Drugs always hinder what we are trying to do.

I agree with everyone here. I will not for one second try to say that I have committed this act, nor will I say I have knowingly been fed from via this method. However... I must wonder if it is in fact a safe method. As many brought up, it is a type of incubus/succubus thing, and knowing how many people are generally fearful of them, I must be somewhat concerned about the donors well being. I'm not trying to say this is dangerous, but mentally it could instill something... I also wonder if the "predator" (if you will) gets more out of it because when in the act of astral projection, would one not be more intune to their concious and subconcious selves leading them to feel the energy they are draining from their "prey" more intensely? Just a few thoughts, my two cents. :)

I would be hard pressed to feed astrally from anyone who didn't know I was coming. Not only would it make it harder, but it would be unethical.

And yes, as someone asked, I think the strength of projection is in question when it comes to feeding this way.

There are times I attempt projection and just swim around in my own head for all intents and purposes. Actually letting my subtle body free is a wholly different experience, and that is what I am still gaining experience in.

Incidentally, for the darklings on board, Konstantinos has an interesting method for preparing to project called "drawing in the dark". It can be found in his book "Nocturnicon". While a lot of what he writes in that book doesn't resonate with me completely, he uses the forces of night and dark in a very, very primal sort of way.

It's an interesting read, and the process of "drawing in the dark" is what helped me project well enough to go feed for the first time. It was a little on the creepy side and it freaked my dog out a bit.

Again, very primal usage of the entities of night and darkness.

"Drugs always hinder what we are trying to do."

I guessed as much.
Just wanted to ask.

There's also a great book on astral projection that i'd read a long time ago while I was first studying Reiki.
I'll try and dig it up.

MMMMmmmmm......Astral Feedings...
what a dream come true.
its like enjoying your favrite meal at dinnerr time...and the feeling of being full last just as long.

Its that feeling you get when goosbumps rise on your skin, the slight tingling sensation that creeps over your whole body..then you slowly come out of it feeling like you've stuck your finger into an electrical outlet and zaped yourself.
then as you sit back it washes over you.
*smiles* yummy...

I've done this many times, but few and far inbetween. There are like others have said already such raw emotions in that place, that if you dont shield well enough could piggie-back home with you.
(explains why you'd feel crummy after a somwhat good feeding)

But never the less I do agree it is good to learn how to do this "trick"

It is a very good technique. I also find that feeding on thoughts is another handy trick to learn.

Yes, I have done astral travel to feed and be with someone that was in U.K, as I am in the U.S. a while ago.
We both keep track of times we felt the other and wrote them down and compared notes the next day. The times were exact and othe intimate details I won't go into here*grins* but, lets just say.He had no doubts it was me that was there.

I my self do this with one on here we have a lot of fun with it *Evil Grin* but yes it is a grate way to feed as well as reach out to another

first off very good post. I have fed this way. there is such a felling of being alive when you are feeding from such energy sources.

Thank yuo for posting this thread

Well although I have astral traveled before I have never fed this way but it is something I am definitely going to try. There does seem to be so many different ways to feed and all of them very effective but this one would seem the most practical if you are able to do it.

well said my brother

I am posting this for a sister cause she has not leveled up as of yet.



TragicWhisper wrote:

A very interesting read & well written. I've experimented with this whilst I was apart from my other half, usually when I had concerns for his well being & have found that nothing but good came from it. I used to project 'energy balls' to him, alas projection of myself seems to be hindered by my ability to completely relax into it. As far as feeding on someone without permission - I agree with the majority of the forum threads - it's rude not to ask!

I am very glad you have posted this.... I have heard of this some yrs ago... I have never tried it, but i would love too with the right guidence.... I am a sang, but i am also very strong willed . I have strong senses , and i have had one unique experince that happened in my sleep. Could you give me your thoughts on this... While we are on this subject... I have a very close friend whom lives in another state who has expressed there openess to let me draw from them. One night before i went to bed. I thought of them very hard, placed myself beside of them as i laid down to sleep, as i drifted off, i visioned i was there. When i awoke, I was surprised to be holding there hair in my hand. no way it could have gotten there. it was there hair no question... How did i do that ? And could you guide and help me to contol it?

..Interesting topic Lord Ryu... I have never fed psychically or astrally for I am a sanguine. However it's important to say that I have had clairvoyant "episodes" after feeding.... Perhaps they are all connected somehow?

Sekment,

You have hit upon one of the more contentious ideas currently circulating.

That is, could the act of blood ingestion actually be a symbology for energy drawing on a more 'real' level?

Some quarters are coming to believe that all vampiric feeding is an energy exchange and that only the method is different. As a result, others have taken to propose that psy-exchange is an evolutionary of the blood feeding, or that it is even somehow superior.

I can't yet accept that there is any differential impact upon the individual during the process, since both methods acheive the same resultant effect upon the individual being- that of satisfying a hunger, a need (whether perceived artificially through psychosis, and/or manifested physically through psychosomatics).

I have a question- is it possible a person could go into a phychotic episode resulting from being fed upon to thouroughly? Thanks

Stabb, I have always held in contention that the act of feeding upon blood is the same as using correspondances in magic. The result turns out the same, but the blood is physical whereas the energy is less physical (note my use of the term "less physical").

The blood is the physical representation of the oftentimes elusive "life force" or prana concept. Feeding energetically often occurs in a similar ritual on the physical plane in which the vampire creates a close physical contact with the energy centers of the body, which are also a somewhat "representation" of the life force of a person.

Both of these methods are two different means to achieve the same end: to replenish and nourish an energy system that is seen in many cases as inefficient, or to take the energy of another for a variety of purposes.

To the previous poster about sickness and madness coming about as the result of a feeding: I should hope no one feeds off a donor to the point it causes undue suffering, but I don't doubt that excessive feeding and draining can cause the donor to have vampiric symptoms if they are robbed of their own life energy enough. As such, it could be possible to drain someone to the point of severe illness or even madness if the need of the vampire is that great.

I put this physical example forth to show reasons why that would *not* happen. If you take two vessels, one that is nearly empty and one that is full, there is only a certain amount that one vessel will be able to hold when taking from the full one before the capacity limit is reached.

Therefore, to maliciously feed off of someone til sickness or madness would require either an extreme need or the aid of magic in the form of a curse. That is very dangerous in terms of consequences and is probably in many circles considered immoral.

Stabb, after re-reading your response, I am intrigued and wish to know if you think that vampiric feeding comes about as a psychosomatic response to only a perceived need?

I would agree to that on some levels, however, I also believe and know from experience that my need is anything but perceived. It's a long conversation and I am aware you've read my profile's article on accidental psychic vampirism, which contains references to a certain house's belief on the cause of the vampiric nature and need.

And then again, as a creature that reasons relatively well, even for my old age (LoL 33 this year! X_x), there are days where I wonder if my need is indeed 'all in my head'. Those days are shortlived when I find myself in need to the point of despondancy and lethargy that are the physical symptoms of my energetic need.

The form doesn't work for me...as a bit psy..I loose the person. I know I need to learn more and understand it better though to use what you are all speaking of. Touch for me is everything.

I think many of us have awakened and comsume human blood. As for me , I'm still learning about other types of feeding. This forum has indeed been enlightening. Nature can be tapped as well as other humans and I'm growing in my capacity to use the forces of nature. I'm young, not in age but in experience, and these posts are helping, thanks members ;}

Helped me as well, I still have a lot of room on many things I need to come to an understaqnding about; time will help also ,Thanks!

I had an ex, At one time she did this, In a sort of way people who I have seen feed this way is a form of Projection/Dreamwalking. Our house did extensive research into this subject. When one Project's astralley, Their brainwave activity drops to Much lower cycle, 10-19 cycle's a minute, An indication of near comatose concerning a nurological point of view, We also see that blood pressure remains low and Oxygen Remains around 95-100%. Dream walkers/Succi's Use this form of trajection to feed in dire need's, or as in the most experienced, Use this in a manor to induce euphoria, While at the time of feeding we see Brainwave cycle escalation. Extensive research is such and was concluded to our file's and we have leanred how to scientificaly measure it on some very , very low form.

Wow, unknownshade, that’s incredible. May I ask what other scientific studies have you guys done on the subject?

Now from reading many of the posts hear the experienced say that this is a much powerful form of feeding, but it is much harder to accomplish. In your experiences, may I ask what is the most powerful form of feeding you have performed?

Usualy when I do astral projection or dream or other paranormal effort I end up loosing energy not getting feed upon it, regardless with whom I enter in contact on the astral plane, and as for blood well it does nto suit me sadly. Tried and it does not work for me.

I'm not much of a bloodsucker either. In my rituals, I use wine as a substitute for blood. i'm very leery of using blood in ritual, and much more leery of imbibing it as part of a ritual, as I have no location from which I can get a clean blood supply.

Blood bank my sister

Lol. I don't have access to raid the bloodbank. "This is going to sound strange, but do you have a spare bag of blood or two I can have?"

Besides, to be honest, my main concern with that is taking blood supplies that are needed for the injured. i don't subsist on blood and don't use it in ritual. Again, wine is a good substitute. The christians have been doing it for years.

And please don't think I'm being judgemental. It's a personal preference.

well you and I can go to have check ups and I will give you mine when needed my sister