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do you believe that cerian words and or symbols have powers to them when used correct or do you feel that words of power and symbols of power are used to only get a certian mind set when performing magick?

Both may be used depending on the experience of the user. To some the words must be perfectly spoken and symbols must be perfectly copied in order to complete a spell. Most western traditional magick originated with the Order of the Golden Dawn, and their rituals had to be perfect according to the "book".
Some 21st ce practioners are not so rigid, many wytches and practioners of Chaos Magick work more loosely, allowing for more of the influence of the unconscious on the spell or incantation.

The myultiverse is infinite. Every symbol (thought/word/character) defines it.

http://www.symbols.com/

How about the power of the words "I AM"

These are words that have a pyschological impact on people

My magic word is "Crispaaaaaaay"
It drives girls crazy.

Great topic and one that could be argue both ways. Since people created the words and the symbols to communicate, we should conclude that they had meaning to their creators. Some of them deep and others very simple.

With out drawing this out too long, I believe that the words and symbols have meaning in and of themselves. It is however up to the individual and their faith/belief to activate them.

I believe in everyday life there are symbols that we can acknowledge, I can look at a bird who flys close to me and lands as a messenge is coming soon, a butterfly may land on my hand trandsformation could occur in my life. These are just some of the everyday symbols that have came to me, and I use them as someone would read the symbols on a deck of tarot.

ver nice feedback! i personally think words of power as well as symbols of power just act as a tool to give us the correct mind state and if it takes a word or a symbol to get us there..there's nothing wrong with that.

they do but not symbole of no meaning or relation or akwards, words in runes or anciant language yet do have power to enhance or focus the spells and curses. Some who are related to entities or powerfull being do have an impact. But if you just use jibberish then forget it it wont have any effect, just makes you look not very intelligent

i agree to a certian amount.most words and symbols of power do have a history behind them adding even more energy when one uses them that can set ones self in a alternate mind state. i also think it just depends on the person and the words or symbols used,to how the power will be derived.

Well to tell the truth i don't know much about magic or sorcery but i do know that certain sounds create certain vibrations in the area around you therefore manipulating energy.....

yeah everything has an effect on matter one way or another on how the energy is to be disputed...
and there is a possibility that words and symbols can do that as well not to say that it's not just self psychology as to set ones mind and energy to a better or even higher level of focus.

well I dont know about any of that but I do is that if you say that one word or phrase to someone over and over again it might used as a way to get power over them when they finally simmit and say I will anything just stop saying that word please. that one always cracks me up no matter what lol

yeah that can happen as well the power of persuasin and persistance in that kind of matter can be quite strong sometimes i suppose a hypnotist can have tools and words of power to controll someone else

Yes, words have power, especially names, that's why some witches have craft names that only close friends know. This is an old tradition that goes way back.

Symbols have power in that you can use glyphs to form a sigil to summon a familiar. These symbols form the name and tasks for that particular familiar. If you make the tasks to vague, then you have trouble getting it to do its tasks and releasing it when finished.

*sigh* Maximus took my sympol...the ankhe or ankha.

Personally, I love the egyptians and i do believe that like the aztec they found a power not known to us in modern day.

For instance, the aztecs AND egyptians believed that in december of the year 2012 ( i think im wrong on the year but i know i have the month right) the end of the world would come. Im eager to find out if this is true.

some people believe that there are certian power or energy points in the universe and concentrate certian symbols of power to increase their strength in magick. and i think if such places of power do exist on earth then it is possible that those symbols energies of power could increase..

about anything can be a word or symbol of power to someone.. the real question to me is how those words and symbols get used.. all else is only partially relevant..
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thats quite true...knowing that if one does have certian words or symbols that give them power how does one use these so called symbold and words of power and do they use them to benefit themselves others or just the universe in general?
what are your personal thoughts and feelings on this matter at hand..

I firmly believe this. That would be the main reason why I gave up on Paganism/Wicca. I learned that simple words or gestures are all you need, and the big production was mostly for show.

Yes I believe words and symbols have power. But most of that power comes from your individual belief in that power.

i feel connected and feel the power with my tarot cards of the sun, and i have a quartz and another with the 7 points of the chakras that i always wear - i dnt know why i always use these but i feel something.

I do not know about magic, but in the everyday world $$$$$$$ is the symbol of power.

I believe that any power associated with a word or symbol is usually one that you put into it. It's possible that through years of usage and tradition, that a power is developed with certain symbols that are used for one purpose or one power...perhaps through some kind of Global Consciousness that remembers these symbolic powers.

Blood creep, I use sigil magick, so you can imagine what words and symbols mean to me.

I also do some rituals, so I can understand the use of certain mantras or images to set the mood or achive particular desire and affect changes.

I personally like Peter Carroll, AOS, and Ray Sherwin's take on sigils and rituals both. Hopefully I can develop a few of my own ideas and go down in history like them.

Yes I believe that words and symbols do work. Especially when you are calling forth a being of any kind. You must use the name of that being.

I believe that words and symbols have power but mostly the power of focus for the caster.

I believe that the true power lies within and that it can be used as raw power if controlled properly, however a lot of people use words, symbols and other material objects to help them to focus on their desires.

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Hmm well many different beliefs have merit. A lot of the Nordic religions actually used the runes to empower their weapons, tools, bodies and lives. Each symbol could represent a god, or a very specific meaning.

looking back in history there has always been referrences made about symbols and words of power even bc...so i have to believe that their most likely some type of connection between these words and symbols of (power) and added with ones intent anything is possible..

symbols are important especially if say you're working withe the Greater of Lesser Key of Solomon. This calls for absolute precision in the copying of the symbols and making sure you have the correct intent behind it

(ps why isn't this in the hall?)

well i agree to an extint that symbols and words of power are important in one form or another...but now i also wonder how do they gain or have they gained their power besides knowing some have pure historic fact....it makes you wonder if its possible for spiritual or a higher energy to be obtained in these symbols or words why havent their full potential been tapped into is it fear or is it something other...

Personally, I think symbols can be powerful. But only in a form of Belief BEHIND IT.
You only need to look at the Cross / Crucifix to see people hold it close as a genuine symbol to their Beliefs.. and some never have it out from under their Pillow etc..

the Swastika was also used, it means Good Being in Sanskrit, But it was actually used as an Insult.. and reversed by adolf hitler.. ( i wont use caps for his name coz he was a nasty nasty man) to mean Injury, and bad luck.

The swastika is the oldest symbol and was used to sacredly represent the Goddess Artemis.
Early Christians even used it as a 'Disguised Cross'.

All words and symbols are important and meaningful to all people.

Different images and wrods make people think of different things but in their own way they all hold power inside them

Runes have inherent magik. They were used in a variety of ways. The Rune symbols were worked in to the architecture of houses and buildings in order to grant the home it's self power and a further connection with earth energies. I have found that some of the Bindrunes I have used have worked and the bindrunes actually radiates with energy

Words and symbols do have power but it depends on how each is used and bye who and for what purpose

Words and symbols have and will always have power, it is th cycle of life. Every turn you will see a symbol yet some will now know how to interpret them.

well I know the swaztica before the Nazi party decided to use had been used by many cultures and societies around the world .. It has always been use as a symbol of strenth and power .. from Asia to Egypt

Depending on the situation, words can have any number of effects. Symbols also do the same. These effects can range anywhere from social to psychological to spiritual. How it works is usually left to careful observation of the situation itself.

i think that we cant limit ourselves to just symbols or words of power i also think that certian numbers carry a certian amount of power as well i also think that certian languages are more stronger in power than others take for instance the aramaic language.

I believe in words and symbols as only focal points through which energy and power are gathered then sent out to do my will. They help to amplify power in manipulations, but can be dispensed with in low energy and simple works as the will and intent are the most important.