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when a person dies do they cross over
is there a place spirits can go when they die
or do they roam the earth
can a spirit become enraged with each passing year they are stuck on earth

Good questions, though I sadly cannot answer them. But I wonder...

I have always wondered about this, I guess the way they feel depends on the spirit. But i do believe that they are allowed to stay by loved ones for awhile, how long i don't know

ok is there anyone else who can answer my questions?

From the experience I have had in my dealings with the dead, there are a number of options available.

One becomes a shade or poltergeist if one is engaged in highs or lows of emotional states when they die. Mostly just imprinting the area with their energy....partially connected, the spirit itself having moved on.

Hauntings and infestations of place are when spirits seek to remain for a reason. Or they haven't realized their dead.

Those spirits who were developed magickally, have the choice of if they wish to transmigrate or not. It is the astral body that transmigrates taking with it the spirit, mind and power of the individual so they can continue doing what ever it is they do.

Under the cases I have observed; transmigration only occurs in those who have developed an astral form. Recognizing they have one, and getting familiar with it again, also counts under this. The majority of people however are once born. For they lack the subtle body that crosses between the seen and unseen world.

I believe when we die are spirits do go to the otherside, if they don't make it through the tunnel and stay earth bound. If the presence seems even slightly unhappy, angry I believe this means they are a ghost. They might be confused and not even know that they are dead.

In my honest opinion...I do not believe in spirits or crossing over...when you die you're dead..no ghost...no spirit...no white light...no dead family members waiting for you.

I think they stay for awhile till they think their loved ones are okay. Especially if their death is unexpected. My ex-father-in-law died just before his first grandson was born. I felt he was watching over like an angel to make sure everything was ok for the first month or so.

what if u are brutially murdered is there a chance the spirit can stay behind until something is done about it?

crimsonxxtears

Nobody can answer your question, we can only give you answers based on our own belief systems/opinions /personal knowledge.

So, personally I have been given evidence which leads me to believe we cross to another plane of existance.

There is help available for people who have passed in a violent manner etc.

Help cannot be forced only offered.

So if one choses not to accept that help for whatever reason, they are left until they are ready.

I have a feeling there will be many views here.....take your pick my friend lol

When a person dies i believe their soul/energy is reborn into a new body...

Thank u Carvall u are very sweet
I will listen to everyones views though I like to hear there toughts
I really like yours thank u

I have thought about what happens to the dead....like..does it depend on how you live your life?..or what....im not sure...there is proof that sum still roam..but its such a question that i believe will remian unaswered for a long time

I honestly think these questions can not be answered...

Should have added

.....I also think as RavenKnight has mentioned, that in due course we have the opportunity to reincarnate.

It is all in what you believe in.

Carvall you said it right.. but no one knows what really happens until you are dead, and then its too late, but before that it is totally up to what you believe in, whether or not you believe in life after death, reincarnation or nothing at all is up to the individual...

It really depends on the type of situation they were in before they died.

I'll let you know the next time I come across one of the "undead".

Okay, so that won't ever happen. So do I know? Nope, I don't think anyone knows the truth of it.

is there a chance someone might know

Maybe a Psychic or a Ghost Hunter?

yeah but most of them are fakes how do u know which one is a real one?

i mean i see and hear spirits but i can't fully communicate with them

Just like with anything over the Internet, you never really know what is real and what isn't. You take a chance at everything. So all you can do is try and ask and hope for the truth.

good point honey

I have wondered about that but not sure if it happens or not.

the truth is out there. where is unknown to me,

its like looking for that pin in the hay stack.

aye that is true but do u have any ideas?

on crossing over.... what i think happens is that we review our life, and come back into a new life and learn new liseions we didn't in this life.

I think maybe there is a "limbo"
Where the spirit can find either peace or come back to the human world as invisible pests

Do u think when we die we go back in time or go forward?

i think it is always forward.

ok this is gonna sound weird but u know how in casper he says when u die its like being born but backwards
do u think thats true?

IVE WONDERED THE SAME THING. HMMMM..............

When leaving this the 3rd dimension to go to the next, the 4th time if you will has different rules.

Check out the member articles, they explain what I'm trying to say.

what are the member articles?

The possibility to be incarnated onto any time frame is perhaps i would venture to say possible, so that if you wanted to influence something in your past, you experience it as it is the first time, the transmigrate back to the point when something needs to happen and you can change the event. Same goes with things on a forward moving time frame.
At least, its a theory anyway....interesting...

I'm not sure it seems very confusing

crimsonxxtears

If you look to the left under Members, you will see Member Articles.

Basically certain members have written things there which are very interesting.

Check out the one by Cancer about Reincarnation....it's good.

666ashez666

It can certainly seem confusing, which is why I try to just do the best I can in this life.

I'm content to wait for the next stage, once I'm done here lol

yeah but i need to know this time for real i need to know someones ok

If you are searching for someone who has crossed over, if they have not yet transmigrated then you can use a form of necromancy to call their body back.

If they have transmigrated then they will not have any memory of them being in a former life.

If you do that you must be sure that you will only do it as a good by, to settle things with them, for its time for their journey to continue as with yours. The dead are walking their paths, as we must walk ours.

crimsonxxtears >

I'm not generally good at guessing games, but are you saying someone you care for has passed away ?

If that is so, then I'm sorry for your loss.

Try to take some time to just be quiet, picture that person in your minds eye.

Tell them you love them, and will allways remember them.

Then let them go my friend, their journey here is done.

Reincarnation wont happen till a soul is ready, so I think whoever it is will be content to wait for you and others left behind for a short time.

Be assured that neither they nor you are alone.

If someone truly had the answer I doubt it would be up for discussion.
In my opinion:
When we die , our bodies get re-absorbed back into the earth to further future life and our energy into the whole of creation.

Too me it is infinity , I cannot put a roof on such a subject!

I think it depends on how the person looks at it, if they think that they will stay here after their death then they will, and that is my view as well so I guess I will be spending a really long time here. I think we will be forced to relive the worse moments of our lives and the happiest, and to see every one we left behind, yeah I know it is not a very optimistic view but it is mine.

This question really made me think and honestly I have no clue. I guess some things are just left for us to wonder and we might not fully know untill we are gone.

yes he died last night weirtd i posted this yesterday and then find out this morning he is dead this fucking blows and its not fair

I know.........thinking of you.

thanks....funerals on thursday
how do i know if he crossed over if there is another side to cross over to

crimsonxxtears

Don't you have any easy questions dear ? lol

I think perhaps you will feel he is at peace.

Send me a message if you would like to talk some more about it.

I personally believe in reincarnation so crossing over I dont know you hear so much about crossing over I wish I knew. If you get any info on it please send to me would really like to hear more on it. (o;

hahahaha sorry Carvall for give me i will message u soon i am really interested in what u have to say

I beleive peoples souls can journey to another place in the heavens to the spirit world, deep in the heart of the cosmos. Because psychics can sense energies and communicate with spirits from the other side of life where the spirit has broken free from the world.

do u have proof of a real pycick

If you can get a statue of the dead, and preform the Opening of the Mouth Ceremony, from the Papyrus of Ani, you would do well to have it done before the main funeral, that way atleast the spirit could attend.

If it is a recent death the soul can linger for a few days to visit the loved ones.(was only observed in 2 cases however so I cannot be sure) at the same time you have the ability to obtain possession of the soul so you can cause its transmigration into a vessel that you create or that is around you so that it is not lost in the oblivion of things. Circles fold back in on themselves in the wheel. Its just a matter if you want him back, in some for or another, it is possible to "resurrect" the soul back into another vessel, not the same one, dead is dead, but if you have another living host you can implant the essence of the departed if you can obtain possession.

thank u for the help i appreciate it

Truly no one knows what is in the beyond.... One can only speculate what there is waiting for us, if anything at all....

I forgot to mention the last half... LOL .... Sorry.... If we are to roam the earth forever though I can see how a spirit may get a little pissed off at it's situation....

Their are people out their that say that they can talk to a person who has crossed over, and i do believe their are but it is hard to find people who can truley do it, most are scam artists and can not be trusted...

RavenKnight

How true.

Which is why I advise people to visit their local Spiritualist Church.

After attending a few times, you will know what standard of mediumship is around, and it wont cost you any money.

I will also say I have witnessed the best and the worst at Church so thats why I say go a few times.

personally I believe that on some level we can choose to stay earthbound, or we can go. When we depart the earth plain we go to a place of rest. We go here to relax, enjoy our time with creation as an aspect of it, and to digest the knowledge that we learned in our most previous life. We evolve eventually into a pure aspect of creation, or at least we become more aware of our placement within the cosmos. As our souls evolve we may be reborn with a mission. Usually to help others with their spiritual guidance, some times we are given other instructions. The main purpose of our evolution is to grow, to love, and to experience life in all forms.

but in doing so which is the right church to go to to find out guidence and isn't the bible mostly fiction since it was written and rewritten by man?

crimsonxxtears

Spiritual National Union churches are multi denominational.

for my part i dont have a clue and not sure if i want to know

whats thta supposed to mean

it means that im not too sure and i dont want to rush to judgement

i'm sorry i should have been more specific forgive me please
i was asking Carvall

no problem i am at a time like a lot of oters here and very curious

so u don't want to know wht its like on the other side?

to be honest ive never thoght about it
ive heard but so far i havent seen anything that convinces me

i feel a spirit stays here till it's work is done and if they cannot complete there work that is what inrages them

I dont know what happens after we die. That's why I want to live for a very long time I hope anyway.

i bet u will i hope the same happens to me to

hahaha that is true but lets say they were murdered wouldn't that enrage a spirit?

There is a place after dying, but there are those souls that do lay trapped here b/c of choosing so.

i don't know i am just so curious

I do not know for sure, but there are many beliefs of many different people, so I personally believe that if you die, and you still have ties to this world, you become a death god, retrieving the dead or almost dead souls to be put to rest, but I also believe in angels and demons, so it all depends on your personal belief. That's my opinion

so are you saying everyone becomes a death god?

According to the Vodoun Mambo I used to work for, she had her dead husbands soul in a Govi.

A year after the body dies, the Baron takes your soul to the underworld. There the soul is subjected to forms of judgement and lessons, gaining power, and strength and connections with the loa. The year and a day comes around the Body is called up by the High Priest, usually in Haiti, to come out of the water. To come up and take residence in the govi, which is a simple clay pot which after the ceremony is wrapped in the colors sacred to the soul, in the case of the one I observed red and blue satin. The soul is then kept on the altar. The govi, becomes the medium by which the soul is still bound to our plane, and is worshiped as a protector spirit, by the generations of the family to keep the govi. Then the soul, ascends reaching a godhead state to that of a lesser loa in their family pantheon, a way that the soul is kept alive, and in power.

And yes, there really was his soul stuck in that clay pot, it was very interesting as the knots in the fabric prevented it from leaving, unless it was called out.

so will the soul ever be called out can it be freed?

I like to follow the answer given by a popular tv show that most spirits dont know that they are dead.

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Becoming a godhead is what the followers of Voodoo want. They don't want to repeat the cycle over again. If you could be a god to protect the things you loved in life? why would you give that up to be subjected to all the pain again? If you have gone through the cycle once why suffer it again?

if they died a natural death they pass over but if they were murdered they roam the earth untill they get their revenge

thats what i thought thanks drivehard

crimsonxxtears

It means that those churches don't use bible teachings etc....their one purpose is to give evidence of life after death.

i'm not going to say that i am an expert on this subject but between experiences and readings i have found that a soul can leave what is called an "imprint" on the earth.

basically if you had a sister who sang "ring-around-the-rosie" in the shower everyday, then she died, and you heard again even though she is gone, that would be imprinting. she imprinted that song on the earth. it is something that is said or done repeatedly, or something that really characterized a person.

oh thats cool thank you Carvall
where does one find those?

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I think some stay here for whatever reasons ie; family, things left undone, etc.
I personally believe in reincarnation.

well then if that reincarnation the is real how do we know who is who?

I must say that the answers and opinions offered are truly awesome.. I do however believe in reincarnation as well.. I feel that there are those souls who do however choose to stay here on earth for whatever reason they might have..

I think there is a place for spirits to go. If they get angrier with each passing year & there roaming the earth, Im thinking that wouldn't there be alot more paranormal activity than there is

well i think alot more "spirit" stuff stays around then is readily apparent, and yes i think if a spirit were trapped, unable to disappate or reincarnate, it would grow more and more angry, unless it was so confused it couldnt be angry.......but i have no paranormal experience to justify these thoughts, it just seems a rational conclusion

I think that people when dying either come back because there is more to do on Earth or they have a new thing to accomplish. If they do what they need to do then they go to another place (like Heaven) and also I believe that they might be bound to earth so then they will stay in spirit form. Most likely because they do not know their dead. My mother says most spirits do not know their dead because they have either died fast or they do not believe what really happened actually happened to them.

LUV: Des.tiny

i believe that there is a place where spirits go...and I do believe that they do become enraged because they cannot simply move on. It is frustrating that they can't just go wouldn't you think so?

crimsonxxtears

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