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I was recently thinking, and I was wonder about our normal human life cycle.

As babys we learn to imitate others, such as our siblings, parents, aunts, uncles, ect. Learning to act as they do.

A children we start to use common sense more often, and begin to take reasoning into our actions.

As Teens and pre-teens, we start to learn about life, responsibility, and about the human body and our hormones.

As adults, we continue to learn, and we become mature, rather most of us do, we learn to care for others, such as our parents, children and partners.

As elders, we can reflect on our past, and what we have learned. Although we never stop learning, your knowledge will always hold over everyone elses...

My point being, at which point in our lives, do we become us, and learn who we are. And how do we know that the person we are in our teenage years isn't going to be different then the us in our thirtys?

And what point do you think is most important to human life?

wow... great point Lydia, I think the MOST important stage in our lives are the years where we are pre teens/teens. The reason being that learning to respect ourselves and others is somthing that you must learn to do to life a sucessful life.

Each preceeding moment to the one you're currently is what has made you who you are. We are constantly changing.

In my honest opinion... Teenage and early adulthood are the most important... yes, you are always learning, however, you learn the most thoughout these years... Again, thats my opinion...

In my opinion, you learn who you are in your late teens and early twenties, granted you'll mature a bit by the time you hit thirty, but you gain a fairly good idea of who you are in said late teens and early twenties.

well, for yur first question, i would say around teen or preteen years. thats wen it happened to me. but im not sure about yur second question. ive been trying to figure that out myself

well... as for children using common sense...im not to sure about that one....but i think we find our own niche the day we realize we must depend on ourselves to survive. that nop-one is going to baby us any more. when we finally see that we can't always get what we want when we want it and have to actually work hard to get it.

We constantly change and grow-at least, we should. There is no one point at which you are sure to learn more than another.

It may seem that adolescence brings the most knowledge, but as you come out of your teens you begin to realize that all of what you thought you knew was bullshit-so I disagree.

or maybe it's the moment before we die when all we see is our lives in retrospect and see what we SHOULD have done or said

Perhaps, but I tend to think that at that moment, we will have clarity before the dark confusion of a new life.

thats a damn good way of thinking about it

No one has answers for these questions,they'll always be retoric.Even tough everyone wants to know the answers.

There are people who spend their whole life searching for their true self and never find it.

So it's just better to live your life,what you are and what you'll be will be resulted shown life.

The bas news you pay taxes al along form cradle to grave duh

hq hmm excuse my spelling..

Well, I think that you are learning who you are all the time, but I hav always had astrong sence of self.... so I think its a gradual proccess.

at any stage of your life you learn and become who you you are and i agree that teenage years and early adulthood have the biggest impact on that.

Yeah I think that no matter how much old we are,we still have a lot to learn.

And I think that teenagehood is the toughiest cause it is the time when you start to really grow up.

Allow me to tell a little story.

There was this newly married couple, and the wife was preparing a roast to cook. The first thing she did was to cut the last several inches off the roast and toss it to the family dog. The husband sees this and asks why she cut the end of the roast off and gave it to the dog. She doesn't really know why, but it was what her mother always did when she made a roast. So she calls her mother up and asks her why she always cut the end off a roast. The mother doesn't know, but also says it was what her mother always did. So the young bride calls her grandmother and asks the same question. The grandmother doesn't know and never really thought about it herself. The great-grandmother is in a nursing home, and all the women decide to visit her that day and ask her. When asked the question, she began to laugh. Slowly she explained that back in the day, when she was first married she lived on a prarie homestead. Her first stove was rather small, and no matter how hard she tried, she couldn't bake a roast as it was too big to fit in the oven. So her husband suggested she cut the end off, and since it was mostly fat and gristle, to give it to his old hunting dog for a treat. So from then on, she always cut the end off the roast so it would fit in the oven, and in later years when she got a larger stove, after her children had moved out, she stopped cutting the ends of the roasts.

I think the most important time is when we begin to realise we have been doing counterproductive things, or senseless things that are learned behaviors and not only question the rationale behind them, but make changes to our behavior for more sensible living. This can occur early in life, or not at all.

i dont really think there is any important stage in life, we just live

our actions define who we are and who we become, it what makes us individuals, we all have the freedom to choose what life we leed.

You always are who you are.
Even if you don't see yourself. Others around you do. This sounds more like a confidence thing. When you become more secure w/ yourself you will understand.

Of course you are going to be different from your teens to your 30's. You have matured so much more now. Your wiser and more experinced. That alone makes you different. People change every day w/ every passing moment in their life.
It's all part of the great cycle. You may still have many of your same likes and dislikes or maybe non at all as you grow.
It doesn't matter and it's OK to not understand because no one person ever truly will. We were not created to understand everything.
I hope that makes sense to you. Stop stressing and enjoy the here and now!
So long as you plan a little ;-)


"My point being, at which point in our lives, do we become us, and learn who we are. And how do we know that the person we are in our teenage years isn't going to be different then the us in our thirtys? "

I don't think there is one shining point of importance in a persons cycle of life. Nor do I think it's ever so clean as you put it, meaning no offence to you of course.
But what happens to those who's lives are cut short? If you believe in fate does that mean they already lived their cycle, though it was shorter and different than ours, or were they really robbed of a lifetime? I'm babbling, sorry.

I dont think theres a certain point in our lives where we become ourselves, its not like one day you arent and then bang, youre the you youre supposed to be.

they say childhood is the best time of our lives, i think we should slap 'they'. Childhood is so full of confusion, i think late twenties/early thirties are the best, youve finished school and uni, you have a reasonably good idea who you are and where you want to go with your life, plus youre old enough to not have to carry an ID with you all the time.

CygnusNoir, I have heard that story before and I love it. It can be used to make several points, and you found another good place for it!

I think that we begin to learn about ouselves once we hit our pre-teen and teen years, but you are always going to learn something new about yourself as you get older. for instance things you liked when you were 17 you might not like it when you're 30.

the day we are born...and always...

we continuosly cahnge and morf as we grwo

Very good point. This is something I've been minorly considering. I, in my 17 mortal years, have come to believe that I THINK I know myself. Over the past 5 years I have gone through a LOT of changes. I have come to be accepting and actually like who I am only recently. Prior to that, I'd always take criticism really badly- If I was complimented, I'd focus on that for a long time, and if I was negatively criticized, especially by my peers, I would dwell on that and believed what they said.

Kids are harsh, they're very brutal, although usually not honest. They just say whatever they think they need to say to feel better about themselves. I, having grown up as the kid who was always picked on, do NOT condone dishonesty or unwanted harsh negative criticism. If someone DOES ask for my honest opinion, I give it to them, whether it's what they want to hear or not (wow I'm really going off topic).

The most growing/learning that humans do is in their first year of life and their teenage years. As teenagers, some have a harder time than others figuring out who they are. I believe it has been a bit of a rough time, but has come quite easily for me. Although in 10-20 years, I may come to realize that I never knew my true self, I am still comfortable with who I am today.

Very good point. This is something I've been minorly considering. I, in my 17 mortal years, have come to believe that I THINK I know myself. Over the past 5 years I have gone through a LOT of changes. I have come to be accepting and actually like who I am only recently. Prior to that, I'd always take criticism really badly- If I was complimented, I'd focus on that for a long time, and if I was negatively criticized, especially by my peers, I would dwell on that and believed what they said.

Kids are harsh, they're very brutal, although usually not honest. They just say whatever they think they need to say to feel better about themselves. I, having grown up as the kid who was always picked on, do NOT condone dishonesty or unwanted harsh negative criticism. If someone DOES ask for my honest opinion, I give it to them, whether it's what they want to hear or not (wow I'm really going off topic).

The most growing/learning that humans do is in their first year of life and their teenage years. As teenagers, some have a harder time than others figuring out who they are. I believe it has been a bit of a rough time, but has come quite easily for me. Although in 10-20 years, I may come to realize that I never knew my true self, I am still comfortable with who I am today.

oh- I'm very sorry for my double post. My computer has been torturing me as of late.

ahhhh I love this thread, well for me i believe it is at the end, when all things are done and we can do no more in this human shell. That is the time we reflect and establish what and who we are....as we look back at all the people that came across our lives the places we have been and the loves we have lost, that is the time when we can truely look at our selfs and say "so that was life, wasnt it great"....
Regards Pharaoh

You all made very good points, Most of you agreed that pre-teens and teenagers were the most important points in our lives... Along with our oldest state....

we re changing whole our life...

I still do not fully know who i am ... and another thing... I am not human........................................ soo....