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Ok...so this is going to sound really weird, but after the last time this has happened, I feel I should find out if anyone else has ever dealt with this. I don't use drugs or anything like that, and not much for drinking...so I know it's nothing like that.

I've had times that I could be lying awake in bed or sitting somewhere and it suddenly gets quiet and I can see things happen that no one else can.

For instance, when I became roommates with an old friend, I spent the first night there before moving in official, and within the room I was suppose to stay in, I saw the walls crack, a black hole form in one corner, and demons coming out of it.....then 2 days later the house went up in flames.

Another instance would be when I was living with a friend, we'd venture out to his parents place and sit on the roof. I could see fires burning and hear people crying and screaming, yet there was nothing there. Then, I'd see shadows within the house throughout the evening and night, yet still nothing. Two weeks later when we went back to visit, we found out that their house was broken into, and that the woods out back had caught fire and 3 kids were killed.

Those aren't the only occurrences I've had with it, but those are two of the more recent ones. Has anything like that happened to anyone else?




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Wow..that sounds incredible and frightening at the same time. I have never experienced anything like this myself but I do hope you can find your answers.



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Thank you for the reply....and I hope so too.



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It is called clairvoyance. A sort of premonition state where you see as well as hear scenerios before they happen. Nothing you can do to stop them in reality though. Just take them in and discuss them with others like you are doing with this thread to find some sort of comfort if the scenerios are too startling for you.



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Thank you for the replies, and it's not really that it's startling, it's more that people look at me like I'm weird or something when I tell them things, and they think I'm losing my mind. So, I wanted to see if I was alone in this or if anyone else can relate.



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Hmm... How could one be loosing their mind, or think that one may be loosing their mind if the scenerios seen have come true? This may be the question that needs an answer.



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I don't know. Everyone I know outside of VR doesn't get anything about me. They don't understand my past, my beliefs, Wicca, or anything else along those lines. And they all feel that my visions are just made up by my imagination...but if that's the case, then why do they really happen in the end?

I mean, the only person who understands any of this is my grandmother, and that's because she's dealt with this over the years as well. She's the reason I learned a lot of what I have. She told me I had witch in my blood and so forth, and she claims to have given me the visions or that I've had the visions since I was younger. So, I don't feel I should have to prove myself to anyone, but at the same time tend to think I'm alone with it...cause my grandmother no longer has the visions due to all of her problems...or so she says, so I'm the only one in the family with it now. I don't know...it just seems odd, but then again...I am odd.



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The "witch in the blood" is just a term to get the individual to explain a certain something IE power, gift, trait or whathaveyou.. That seems to be passed down through certain generations.

It is has not been proven that magik powers are passed down through generations, so if any of your ancestors did have certain "powers", then they would have learned to harnest them over time.

The learning capabilities however are passed through generations, this would make up the gene pool. The DNA histories that coorespond with genetic structures within the brain, body etc.

Clairvoyance is something that could be passed down through generations based on the genetic make up of the individuals family passed... I think the same thing goes for alchoholics, but don't quote me on that.



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Yeah, I figured that much as I haven't found any scientific data on it yet. But that's what I was told by my grandmother. I started researching it when I was 12 and couldn't find anything that proved that it was in the blood line, but at 13 I decided to get into it and follow it, so that's what I did. I began practicing, and then went from there, and to this day I am still a practicing Wiccan.

As for the thoughts and visions...I never really researched it before, but talked to a friend or two about it, and they had gave me a lil insight to it, but not much. It never occurred to me to even see if it was genetic as I was more concerned as to why it was happening, but I've come to accept it over the years.



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I would suggest that you start journaling these "visions". Write down what you see and experience.

You might also want to record in the same manner any manifestations of the visions that come to pass.

If you doccument both the visions and the physical events you may be able to better reconcile them.



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Alright....thank you. That's something that I am going to start doing...and see if I can't piece it all together.



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5 years ago this month I woke up at 8.36 thinking my closest friend had died.

3 hours later I got a telephone call from her partner telling me that she had died at that exact moment from a blood clot in her lung.



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Oh wow....I'm sorry to hear that.



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That's OK Dark Angel. I know her spirit has been with me in my darkest moments since then.

The thing is, her house always used to be really warm - even in the depths of winter - and yet afterwards it was like being in a freezer.

She always said when alive that no bugger would ever take her house from her. Since she died her spirit has been as good as her living word. Nobody has been able to live there for more than a few months since she died.



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That's interesting...at least she stuck to her word though and has been able to hang onto her house even after it all happened. That's good that she's still with you though, I have a really good friend of mine who passed when we were 17, and he's been by my side since and always looks out for me to the best of his ability.



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The weird thing is that I am sure we were only meant to know each other for the most important phase of my life so far, and once she had helped me get to the next part of my journey she was physically gone, although her spirit has still been with me since.



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Yeah, sometimes that's just the way it works. Everyone was put here for a reason, maybe that was her reason for life was to be there for you, and once she did what she needed to do she moved on and now watches over you to make sure that you continue on as planned for you. You never know....it all depends on their purpose, and sometimes you'll never know what their true intentions were as it may not have been obvious yet. I haven't figured out the deal with me losing my best friend...but he's still with me, so I know that either he's done what he had to already or the best is still yet to come.



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It seems a case of you may precognitive not clairvoyance. Precognition is the ability to see of be aware of future events prior to the there occurrence. Clairvoyance is wore to happen in a meditative or sleeping state. While being precognitive you can be in a waking state as well. It is A skill to leaner about and practice with time comes control. Don'rt be afraid just research it and learn how to control the you gift you may have.



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I'm definitely going to do more looking into it. Thank you for the information and the response. I really appreciate it.



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I think I've had something similar happen to me.

There was this one time I was laying on my bed at night and I wasn't asleep or even falling asleep but all of a sudden it was morning. And I recieved a phone call from my younger brother telling me our dad went missing. Then all of a sudden I get this image of someone taping a white trash bag to the ceiling of a car. And somehow I was in that car and I realized there was blood dripping on me. When I looked up I saw my dad's hand hanging out of the bag. Right at the moment I was back in my room. 5 min had only passed even though it felt like days. The enitre thing was just some sort of "vision" But I swear I never fell asleep.

My dad has been missing for almost 6 years now. I never heard from him again since that week.


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Oh wow...I'm sorry. That must have been horrifying. That's awful.



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Psychic and paranormal phenomena is around us all. Some are more sensitive to it than others . Ive seen the portals ..and ive been scared shit less more than once .ive talked to ghost .and been a medium more than once .I believe you have to take things for what they are .and use them to what ever advantage you can if you can help someone do it . .if there is anything else you need let me know and i can do some research in it .and see what i can do..tc and Blessed Be.



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Thank you, I appreciate the comment. I will definitely remember that, and use it to the best of my abilities and advantage...especially if it means helping someone. Again...thank you.



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Like i said no problem .Ive been through some things .



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I wish I could say I never experienced anything like that, but I have. Not exactly like that, but similar.



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Yeah, I understand. I really appreciate everyone's responses, and a lot of it has helped me more with my research into it. I'm going to do more in depth research starting tomorrow and hopefully find a few answers. Thank you everyone, and feel free to add anymore information you have as well.



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I don't know but why...

The day 26th the terrorists attacked my city Mumbai (Bombay), before City attacked, just my wife was doing press, the press went lit up and started flaming up to 2 feet within moment and I had to run to switch off the main switch and with cloth I had to push off fire of press and its wire.

and at the same time, the press lit it was night fall, the crow came outside my window and started shouting madly for long time.

Normal case I love the crow madly.



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i sometimes have dreams which come true and i can tell when a letter is coming from somebody i know.sometimes i can tell who is telephoning before i pick up the reiciver.



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That's interesting. See, the only thing I ever picked up on most of my life, was that when I got really, really angry it stormed where I was or at least rained...which was kind of weird for the longest time. But then as these visions started coming more and more, I realized there was something more to it all. So, it's all pretty strange yet fascinating.



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Like i say dont be scared of something that is a part of you.we all have our gifts .



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That is true, I agree. Thank you. I'm finally getting use to it all. And a lot of them I enjoy very much, as it is nice to know that I am different at times.



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Its our differences that keep us from being like everybody else ..and that is the last thing i want to be ..i am who i am and nothing any body can say can change me ...lol i am me .



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Yeah, I know. And that's one thing that I'm comfortable with. I don't want to be like everyone else, so I go with who I am, what I believe, and what I've become. No one's past is the same, so there's always differences, and you learn from different experiences, so what's the point of being exactly like someone else. Even if they are family, it's still stands. I am who I am, because it's who I want to be and have come to be...point blank. Accept it or leave it, doesn't matter to me....I am happy with me either way.



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How is this for you, I can sense when someone is going to die or something, A true thing and it is scary, I knew when HardBiters Dad was going to die I knew long before he did, Right before he had got the call of his dad telling him that he only had a year or two left to live I had already knew. I could not tell him that I knew something but I could feel it in my stomach. It was awful and I hate that it happens. So yes I can truly agree with you.



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id have to agree with what was previously stated, clairvoyancy. although ive never heard it manifest in the form you describe. usually its a dream,day dream, or just walking by somewhere and the feeling of uneasy or queasiness.Least those are the common symptoms Ive seen or heard people describe.

it could be more a future sight then clairvoyance though. since clairvoyance is usually a very short term view of things usually with in the minutes. I hate using these chain of movies as example but the final destination movies is a prime example of clairvoyance.



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WOW! How amazing that soooo many people gathered on the same web-site are so gifted. I can't hardly believe it, thread after thread...so many gifted people.



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I have had dreams where I have seen things in the future about me and others close to me which appear to have come true. I would put it at about 5% of the dreams a year.

This also may be undertones which at the time my subconscious has picked up on causing them to manifest as a recall dream.



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Yeah, I've been doing more and more research on it, and clairvoyant is one who's in a state of meditation/sleep, but I have them even when I'm not sleeping or meditating. So, I don't know.



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Darqangel, yes it has happened to me also at various times. Sometimes it depends on my own mood, the environment which I'm in at the time, or even the excessive static in the air that can cause these types of phenomenon, but it all does and most definitely, enhances the various 5 types of psychic abilities.

They are:

Clairaudience

Clairaudience is the ability to hear things that the normal ear can't hear. Usually this would be in the form of hearing the voices of spirits. This can be difficult to do as spirits have a higher vibration level.

In order to hear the spirit voices, psychics have to raise their vibrational level. One way of doing this is through meditation. By raising one's level, it becomes easier to hear the spirit voices and understand what they are saying.

Clairalience

Clairalience is being able to smell odors that don't have any kind of physical source. Instances of this could include smelling the perfume of a deceased aunt or the cigar smoke of a beloved grandfather.

Clairsentience

Clairsentience allows a person to feel what others are feeling. This would entail feeling a person's emotions or feeling another's physical pain. This can be a very difficult ability to process.

Imagine going to a place where a terrible tragedy has previously occurred and being able to feel all of the pain, suffering, and fear that other people felt at the time. As one can imagine, this would be extremely emotionally draining. This type of ability is also known as empathy.

Clairgustance

Those who experience clairgustance are able to taste something that isn't actually there. For example, let's say Grandma made the best chocolate brownies in the world when she was alive. While going into the kitchen, suddenly your mouth is filled with this delightful taste. This is Grandma's way of validating that she is there.

Claircognizance

Claircognizance is having knowledge of people, events, etc., that an individual would not normally have knowledge about. An example of this would be a premonition. A premonition is a fore warning of something that will happen in the future. Some would consider this fortune-telling.

There are many additional psychic abilities that some people possess, as mentioned earlier. The Clair senses are just some of the ways that people who are intuitive receive information.



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I have similar experiences, yet most people think you are a crazy person or created the occurances. Please be careful informing others and what you write down because someone may try to use it against you.



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Aracon...thank you for the information and after reading that, there's a lot in there that I have been able to do and all, so I really appreciate that as it clears it up a bit more for me.

Doru....I understand where you're coming from which is why I don't tell a lot of people about it, but I figured on here was fine to ask a question like that as others would understand more than the outside world that I know here...being that they can't even accept the Wiccan beliefs. Thank you for the comment.



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Ladybathory.. The same for me..all the time..

Doru... nothing has been better stated even if it is slighlty paranoid. I only share my thoughts with THE closest of friends who I do trust...



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I cant say Iv had anything like that happen before



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If person is meditating regularly, and worked a little on Conscious, the world shows him how strange it is and unimaginable... just kin can see and feel or listen or taste, but can not imagine before doing that and new matters come to him...

Even the spirit walk in your room and sit sideby when you are sitting open eye and can see the spirit whom no other can see without the wishes of spirits...

Crows can love you and like to sing on your window...
I have one or two crows come to sit in front of my window and sing now a days... I feel them with the conscious and love for crows spilled out, I dont know why...

Strange Street Dogs on any newly vsited road will bark on others but when you are nearby they don't bark on you and when you are sat on bench there, they try to smell and feel you and try to lick you I am afraid of they licking its infectious. Once they licked my face, and after that I got pimples those days.

The day before yesterday on one station outside of it there was meal laid on paper for dogs on the road near the bench, the dogs were guarding that meal and barking peepal who tried to sit there. But when unknowingly I went there and sat they did not bark on me and other peepal they barked adly and on few persons they ran on them madly to bite them. two of those dogs tried to smell me first and gave their head to my knees and when they tried to reach my face to lick, I stood up and walked from that bench.

at the time the subtle awaken, you experience much things in your life...

The Love to Nature and Beings too is linked with the strange happenings and they too warn you many a times...

When you love the nature and beings, it become wise to you. Yes beings too are wise when you are not having bad intention.

I saw a dream, I was in one unknown remote resort place, one mad big ox with very big horn, saw me and went after me, I had to run from there and tried to hide behind the wall, the ox followed me madly and it gave its horn to few peepal I ran again went around to round house it was close to hide and ran there was my wife she became worried, the ox went on throwing peepal though did not scrampled with its head or body, but went after me. I came out of that wall fence again to run in open field. there many cows and oxes there they did not do any thing, but that OX really went after me and came out. But at the time my wife was in my mind and I was worried about her and stood there to go again in that boundary wall, by that time Ox picked me and threw, and again I saw after balancing my self to stand up, that Ox was about rushing me to scrample, Few tigers ran in from open field and cows and oxes feared of it and that mad Ox turned from me, I saw that two tigers picked two cows by its necks and pulled again to vast grass field and three more tigers appeared, tigers were not touching the human, and peepal already ran from there except me and from boundary wall one person shouted at me to run from there, i rushed inside the fence there was my wife in open I took her to one house and house owner opened the gate and we entered and that house was full of peepal due to fear of tigers. and by mistakely some one took that mad OX to the hanger in front of house we were in and after few time the rangers came to free us and informed that now land is clear and they informed us that to human the tigers are no matters of worry coz here th animals are plenty to tigers as food and they normally don't harm human and they are in usual course trained and grown this way and when any Ox or bull try to create situation like that time, they rush to human colonies and pick cows and oxes.

I saw that Ox who went madly on me for 15 minutes he was tied to hanger was full of fear of tigers. Why not? Tigers are giant animal capable of killing down the elephant by bringing down the earth. the tigers were really of the size of cow and nearly tehir back was 4 feet above the ground.

the same time wife was dreaming was in temple and thinking of Mother Goddess and Me only in the chime of bells.

;)

We both very often watches the dreams... She informed me about the dream first. then I told her about my dream.

But this dream told me that I may have problems physically if not in touch of nature with love. I do like to go in open space...



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Hello my Wicca friend. when you start using the old religion, there are many doors that can be open. You probably open one that will be open for you to explore life in a different way. Is a gift from the goddess. enjoy it!!



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Thank you, I didn't even think about that. I bet you could be right. Thanks for bringing that up, and I will enjoy it.



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So, how often does this occur? do you go into a day-dream state and watch the events occur? when you see the vision, are you aknowledged by anyone within it? Drawn to things?
Very interesting what you have. Been happening since birth?



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It's been going on since 13 when I first began practicing Wiccan due to my grandmother getting me into it. I've had them ever since. I don't have to be in a daydream or any type of meditation state either. I can be going along doing my daily activities and have it happen out of the blue. The last one I had recently, I was talking on im doing a conference with 2-3 friends, and the conversation was going great, when all of a sudden there was a face within my screen and it was trying to say something, but you couldn't hear what it was saying. Then my im shut down for a min, and then I felt a cold breeze, as if it had come out of my computer. So, I don't know. I feel like I released a spirit from inside my computer or someplace within my computer.



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You're most welcomed darkangel82.

In most cases, some people may experience these such things as a sequence of de ja'vu. This could also be associative with possibly a past life experience that one is reliving in this lifetime or it could be associative of a parallel lifetime. If you study quantuum physics and the nature of time itself, you'll find that everything is indeed interconnected on all levels and in all realms of consciousness. In some occult belief systems, even a birthmark is considered that of a past life experience, a mark that was gained through either a spiritual/symbolic way or an old injury for instance, just to name a few.

Doru, I do totally undestand what you say, and yes I will elaborate on that, as some people will stoop to lower levels to use anything and everything against you. I have already had this experience a few times here, but disregarded most of them due to various reasons, but again, people, please DO be careful what you write and admit to here, or anywhere in cyberspace.

In studying the nature of the soul, it tells of how complex the soul/spirit truly is. The soul/spirit is the animation for the body, so many beliefs regard. In others, the soul can still be 'taken away' per se, for instance in the case of zombification, but it is still very much ruled by either a Bokor, Oungan or Mambo. In other beliefs the soul can manifest and be trained for death in regards to continuing on a specific path to ensure a lifelong goal is reached, even if the physical body doesn't survive, the soul will continue to work in the next life upon that goal. The people trained to do this are sometimes called in some paths, World Walkers or Shadow Walkers.

Also for those seeking answers to dream sequences, research for yourselves, Dream-Weaving. It is a very insightful study and if you are adept at dream-weaving youself, then you will come to understand how others can literally invade your dreams.



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Your a seer its not uncommon you have preminitions and because you dont unerstand you dont know what to do, from what it sounds you can see into the past and the future and even sometimes have the other side communicate with you.

You are known as Precognitive and Postcognitive. Some have this gift their whole lives and some deny it. Go see a gypsy have her read your palm



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Alright, I will look into that. Thank you for the information.



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You are welcome deary happy to help



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After you started doing Wicca? At what point did it start? What did you do last regarding Wicca when it started happening? This is very odd indeed.



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It has nothing to do with wicca it has to do with who you are and what abilities you are given at birth. Ok no matter what religion you are you can still have the gift of sight.
If you do something to open a closed door in your unconciousness you can see things that were unknown to you before. You can even feel things.



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"It's been going on since 13 when I first began practicing Wiccan due to my grandmother getting me into it. I've had them ever since."

Crimson tears i think you are mistaken. She clearly states that it began to happen after practicing Wicca. Therefore my next logical thought is to question why it would occur after practicing the old religion.
If it was a "Gift" as you claim, the lady would have been born with it, would she not?



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I never noticed any of this nor had any visions until I was 13...which was the same year in my life that I began practicing Wicca. I never practiced prior to that age, nor did I notice anything weird about myself at that point. Of course if I were born with it, then maybe it didn't develop fully until then, and it could just be a coincidence that it all happened in the same year? I'm not necessarily saying it's due to Wicca, it just didn't occur til I became associated with it. Maybe I got more in depth with my feelings, the elements, etc...and it allowed me to see more than what I did before.



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It could have been locked in or she might have had it all along but she only dreamt of things. She may have had other things happen to her at a younger age that she doesnt remember.
We dont know what her past was like



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My past was horrible growing up from age 3 and on...and I shut down a lot. I won't go into detail with it of course, but my life has been a living nightmare for the most part. That's one reason why when I got into Wicca, it helped me relax and feel one with the Earth and all....rather than feeling so alone all the time.



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So all you really know is that you hit 13 and suddenly this started happening? you dont think its down to Wicca? Do you think you were born with it? How else could you have come into line with this phenomenon?



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Sweetie did you ever black out at all do you remember anything strange and not normal to the world happening around you?
If so you have had this since you were born. You just dont have a clear memory of it, entering a form of piece and feeling one with yourself can help your guard down. So therefore you are more open to all dimensions and planes outside the realm of regular possibility



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Why would this sort of phenomenon result in Blackouts for a young child? And from that, how can link it with certenty that she was born with it? O.o



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I've had a few near death experiences throughout my life that somehow I keep making it through them, but would that really have something to do with it? I also have heat issues, where if I'm in direct sunlight too long I tend to black out and pass out. Other than that, I'm not sure, and I know very lil of my life before 3 as no one will tell me anything about it. Not sure why though.



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Does anyone in your family have things like what happen to you happen to them?

Black outs mean that she does things without remembering so of course it could be linked to it

Like I said go see a Gypsy and possibly a shaman if any are nearby. They can explain what your gifts are and how to expand them if you wish or help you close that door.



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My apologize. After your last post i have to conclude that your claim is bizzare and fraudulent. I dont mean to be unkind. Your story seems to change with each post and new "suggestions" made by other members. No doubt you have lived with this "phenomenon" for a few years at least, and you are asking a forum of how it came to be because you just dont have a clue?
I'll be leaving this thread and other members to come to there own conclusions about this claim. But for me its case closed.
Goodbye.



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No, no one in my family has these issues, my family doesn't even believe in any of this or that it's even possible. They just tell me I'm weird and that they don't see how it would even be possible. I am going to look into those, I'll have to wait til I move cause here they are mostly frauds/fakes. I will as soon as I get up north....I don't want to close it down though, I'd like to learn more about it and further it if possible.



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Ok...if you want to leave that's fine, but I don't see how I have said anything to make you not believe what I am dealing with is true. I mean, I know my life, and the only thing I do when I talk about it is leave out detailed portions that don't correspond to what is being said, as it's not something I share with people, but as for everything related to this post and the discussion between me and other members, nothing's changed. I'm just answering as I go along if need be, and answer as the question is needed to be answer. I even went back to see if I had accidentally changed anything, and I didn't see anything that stood out. I mean, if I could show you proof I would.



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Her story did not change at all.

1) She did not grow up wiccan and a gift can be there but not have access to it until something else is opened. You have to believe it to really see it to begin with.

2) Blackouts can happen at anytime. You don't have to faint or anything for it. Your subconscious will go in to it's own state and you'll be seeing nothing but no one else will know what's going on. That's common as well in a lot of people.

3) Wiccan, you seem to feel that one can not be considered to have a gift unless they have immediate access to it. That's wrong. It's like christmas if you think about it. You have a gift but it's all wrapped. You don't have access to it until it is unwrapped. This is what the wiccan practice did for her. It unwrapped that gift.

I know about her past and there are definite reasons why she can't tell you about them.



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sent you an email.. good luck..



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Thank you, and I got it



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