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Awhile back I wrote out a thread about how Hollywood represents the vampire mythos/lore. Well, as I was rating in the database, something became apparent: there is a plethora of new vampire fiction out there, much of which appears to me to be nowt more than substandard writing of the genre. And, that saddens me.

Much as I believe that it is now popular or fashionable to say one is bi-polar, vampire fiction is now popularised: and, some of it is poorly written.

Now, I’ll grant you that there is also sub-standard writing in other genre. But, this is vampire-related fiction I am writing of here.

I’m curious, what do people think of the popularisation of this genre of fiction?

As much as I love diving in and escaping with those books, you're right.

Vampyres used to be feared. now they are a huge part of the pop culture, and it is sad

I feel that you are correct in saying that most of the vampire fiction of today as in fact become geared in a way to the every day person, and in doing so they have turned the genre in to nothing more then as you said Angelus dribble for the teen masses.

In a way, this could be a good thing in the long run... folks may have a different idea about vamps now than they did 50 years ago, but society is gradually becoming more accepting- whether it is fiction or truth

The Role of the vampire has changed drastically due to hollywood's illusion of the romatic version of the feared myths. A once feared story has now become a society within our communities. And has not shrunk in size for some time.

I do not argue with anyone's points here but it is just like any other thing that gets popular, you have your good and your bad that come out of the woodwork, flooding the market. Which is the secret here, Market. Without someone (myself for one) spending bunches of money buying these books always looking for that diamond in the rough, then they won't be available everywhere in such quantities and we'll go back to some other genre of books/movies to spend our money on. Maybe the next big trend will take us back to westerns! lol

I have read post after post of complaints on this very subject in profiles and other threads about vampire becoming bastardized and turned into something far from what they once were


here is something to ponder

"are we not part of the very problem"

Id say 75% percent of the profiles on here have deranged the vampire persona in some way to fit them and a lot of us on this website go so far as to say we are vampires and yet none of us truly are

yes some of us like drinking blood and some of us feel we have the power to drain "psy energy" but in a classic sense are not vampires

and lastly is it not our subculture that initially creates the demand for vampire films books shows and such? when that is combined with a need for things to be different, we opened up the gates to these half-assed stories

publishers and studios do not put out supply unless there is a demand.

so in conclusion can we truly complain about something that we play a part in and not be hypocrites

I personally think that the acceptance of vampyres is great... but I hate how people rarely know the difference between reality and fiction... that's the sad part... and then you find a bunch of people who pretend to be a mythical creature and send u messages with things like "I was bitten last night"

LMAO

Being bitten by a vampyre doesn't really make you one... so thats always annoying to hear. LMAO

Vampires in pop culture are becoming these good and valiant characters that always save people and fight their darkness. It is truly annoying that the media and todays authors have made them seem more like fairy godparents or superheros, I love a good Vampire novel and so few of the ones today are well writen. It is sad.

I see again the "Vampyre this, Vampyre that.."

What has yet to be addressed is Vampire. As I read it, this thread clearly mentions the Vampire genre.

Vampyre is a clique term. Used exclusivly by individuals who are convinced that there is a historical phenomena that supports their idealism that vampires are something other then Lore based.

Consistsnly when presented with request for " facts", or sources, they dodge, and hem the matter.

As mentioned so well above, I agree this muddys the waters, just as much as popular contemparary vampire.

Perhaps, I suggest those who are so " anal" about how " Vampyres" are " so misrepresented" can start a thread to shed light upon the matter.

Though to do so, they obviously will be critiqued by others of varied ideals.

After all, it is not only the skeptic, and cynic that critically scritinize said individuals convictions.

personally im pleased its popular. it might be WRONG but that doesnt make it less entertaining.
i love a good book, and fiction is supposed to be just that.
~W~

Like when any genre is very popular you get so many people trying to grab on to the "gravy train" that they will publish almost anything to cash in.

With this era of vampire characters I think there is an important fact that people seem to be overlooking. That fact is that this era is directed at teenagers and especially teenage girls. Most of the story lines border on the romance novel type with just enough action to get some of the teenage boys interested. Being as the writing level is for teenagers adults are more likely to be dissatisfied with it because it is not at an adult level.

Here's some other things to keep in mind. Romance is not new by any means to vampire fiction. In "Dracula" Dracula seduced Mina Harker because he wanted her for more than just a meal. The romance then was more of a secondary aspect and was also more subtle. Dracula was also a gentleman and only became a fearsome monster when you got in his way. Dracula is considered by many as the archetype of the fictional vampire and is what most vampire works are compared to. The formulas of the new are not all that different from the old just focusing on different parts. There is one other big difference though that hasn't been mention "Dracula" is told from a human point of view while many stories now like the "Twilight saga" is from a vampire point of view. Whether they are or not a vampire is more likely to see themselves as a hero whether they are or not than a human is.

as ever, Dabbler summed it up.
Truth be told though.. I don't ,mind it being popular, I just want it well-written, instead of quick, let's make a buck writing..

you know?

you mean like steven king? i remember when he wrote very good books...seems that for a long time now, he has just written fiction by the pound.
sad really
~W~

very..though i do agree that it is not a bad thing that it is popular and if i may point out, while many teenage girls like romance they would also like more adventure. It is true that with so many books aimed at them adult readers may find many new titles to be silly, or at least somewhat unsatisfactory. Oh and for the whole "vampires view them selves as heroes" thing? try Queen of the Damned by Anne Rice, the Brat prince Lestat is Consistently referring to himself as a demon, Many of the books for teenagers also have an antagonized vampire..though with a heroic edge. I will agree that many do view themselves that way though.

to many missed the build up of White Wolf Games.

Actually adopted by some as containing historic relevency.

A whole underculture, set as morib horror genre. Trying not to break character.

I have seen great evidence in Upirs Acadamia Text relating a very strong thourgh case.

Vampyre, is synonomous with white wolf story lines.

Vampyre is adapting the vampire, as something sacracant!

Implying that people just dont "get it", are simply asking that you relate articulatly what pwrsonally convinced you that you are
a vampy"i"e.. simple put, don't expect anyone to accept you distingushed adaptation of a lore based character type.. an immortal.. Icon Blauh Bluh I want to suck your Bhud

I want to suck your Bhud Lol ok Dabbler

Ok Dabbler, not everyone takes the persona of goth or Vampire because that lies in the myth. People seem to escape the troubles of the world even if it may seem to be fiction in the eyes of others.

To me it is no more different than the business men who become bikers and roughnecks on the weekends. release from this cruel world.

Hollywood has changed the face of the vampire, much like that of all other hollywood creatures of the past, some artist put out stories that are creative and dramatic while others release movies i would consider less than a B movie. hollywood in my opinion has lost its luster in the creative side and now reproduce films or money makers from the past hoping to be part of that again.

my fave "vampire as hero" book (or books as its a series) is the fred saberhagan dracula series (read dracula tapes if you havent).
not all are gems, but most, especially the first two books are a damn fine read.
are they accurate?
they are pretty close to the bram stoker dracula mythos.

as for real vampires. i consider myself one (bowing, thank you , thank you), and i couldnt care less if there is a ton of fiction out there. some may be close to what i think of as the truth, some not.
im just more concerned about the quality of the story.

just my thoughts
~W~

Some of the posts here make statements about how todays entertainment business has changed the face of the vampire, etc...Changed it from what, exactly?

Cadre, I share that boat with you.

Cooley, I am curious about that too.

Cooley .. for a start, it is popular again.
though that in itself is a bad thing: for me, what's a bad thing is when it's poorly written, or filmed. simple as...

In a bit of defense of the creative side of production these days I'd like point out the TrueBlood series on HBO. I had read all the Sookie Stackhouse novels before the series was ever mentioned and still enjoy them. The storyline in the show however does not follow strictly along with the books has added some interesting and creative ideals to vampires.

The vampires are not good guys they have a healthy mix of good and evil just as most human communities do and these human bad guys are present in the tale too.

In much the same style of Bram Stoker's Dracula, these vampires look nice and safe until you've crossed them then it tends to get real ugly fast. Sure there's a bit of romance in it but even there it's not such smooth sailing, just like real life.

I do agree that the market is being flooded with half baked stories and plots but every now and again something interesting shows up and grabs me again.

Well like everything, it has good times and bad... like right now Spartacus is amazing and so was 300 and their similair but im sure their wil be a shit movie or show soon enough or a kids movie or show

I like it, because now it's easier to find vampire related books and if it encourages younger people to read, let it be.

What I can't stand is the amount of: ''omg now I'm a vampire because I read a fictional book.'' -_-

I have to question... If you do not believe in vampires, as some of you have "suggested" then what exactly would hold you the right to be angry at the pop culture for liking goregous, heroic vampires?

If we, who do actually believe, are not offended, then why are you?

I am not trying to deny you your right to give your opinion, I really am curious.

my opinion: anyone who says they love vampires should at least know who Vlad Tempes was and should have read Bram Stokers Dracula. I feel most of these new people jumping on the vampire band wagon have no idea what the true sense of the word vampire means and it saddens me : (

you imply that to not believe in vampires is so unfounded.

How does believeing, or not believing in vampires have any significant role in how one receives the saturated vampire market, are those who identify as vampires, or believers in vampires somehow more qualified to critique the topic?

It is obvious that those who imply that vampires exist are without any substancial support for their convictions. Though there is no shortage of individuals claiming to be vampires. As is there is nothing presented that
summarizing anyone who claims conviction of being vampires. So all that us requested is any link to text that exist supporting anyother " factual" account of vampires existing, one not based on fiction!

Obviously those who are personally convinced vampires are something other then fiction, and lore, must have something they read, or heard that compelled them to conclude that vampires exist. All that skeptics ask, is the source that is popularly excepted, reasonable request. If one seeks to clarify ones convictions, then one simply need to allow an individual access to something suitable to research for their own conclusion, and cross referencing.

i implied nothing of the sort

So there is nothing irrational about not believeing in vampires, as anything but fiction, and lore?

For clarity.

I just want to understand your post.

I meant no offense, and I find your post in other threads insightful.

Let me put it this way...

Would you ask your best friend if something looks like a tumor, or would you ask a doctor?

Those who have studied vamps and know a little more about it, compared to the average fan who may have read a book or two- are probably more likely to offer helpful and more reasonable opinion.

I am not saying your opinion is
Wrong- that is just silly.
I am simply stating that real vamps and those who actually do believe- instead of using VR and other database sites as a dating service- probably have a little more reason.

But, then again, maybe not... I don't personally know how much you have researched vamps

But, now we are just getting off topic

who am i to say whether it is rational or not? That is not what i was trying to say.
I just get annoyed by people who concider themselves 'fans' of vampires but know nothing of the history. It is like saying youre a fan of Pantera but you dont know what any of their albums are called, you only know one song. Based on that, i would say many of these new vamp lovers are actually just likers! A fan of a song not the actually band!
Not sure if this makes sense.....but hey, at least i tried! :)

Demonic a well stated post. many who post seem to be wrapped up int the new movies that have hit the big screen, yet than think that they are what they see on the flickering lights of hollywood. many people have imitated movies thinking what they see is real and forgot that it is for entertainment.

Re: ~Dab~

"Perhaps, I suggest those who are so " anal" about how " Vampyres" are " so misrepresented" can start a thread to shed light upon the matter."

As much as I would love to dwell on that statement, I will instead chuckle and make a post stating that I have yet to see any true "vamp'y'res" writing a piece of fiction based upon their own lives.

I would love to see Stevie King write a vampire novel.

VampChica,

Then you imply that you studied something, simple reference your source.. so those " not in the know" can read it, and decide for themselves.

..I'll go with DeMonic, said something there I could latch onto.. though dumbing down for the little-uns, I HATE!

Angelus, thank you.....i think, not sure if you are calling me dumb or not.....but i am glad i made sense :) LOL

I love soulshrouds post on a vampire novel done by a vampire, yet consevably someone adress interview with a vampire on that which again relates back to hollyoods version of storytelling.

Structure of society have given us alot of interpetations of the vampire lore, yet general made up of hollywoods fantasy of the community and the characteristics of a noble vampire legend.

I live with a vampire and anyone who thinks we are Hollywood toys is a fool.
We spend most of our time fitting in, our nature is darker than dark ...
I.E. No teenagers in tight vests they are all delusional.

That said true blood and the vampire diaries are great comedies and a sex taunting feed for some~Coughs.

.. my last remark was a compliment to a Lady with understanding. As for 'dumbing down'.. Aw c'mon, just lok at the pap that's coming out now.. some of it is just sheer dross!

Simply put. Falling Star, your getting redundant.

Put up something with substance.

Your just a more sever fan of vampires then those who place the whole genre in context. As the fiction it is.

How moronic you sound, calling people who don't share your dellusions ' fools'.

I challlenge you to " set the record straight, and present something ( an article) that summarizes your ideal of a" nonfictional vampire" is.

Put up! Or Shut Up already.

"Dabbler, fiction is fiction.. and some badly written."

I agree, and further. Those who draft ideals, and beliefs on fiction are pathetic.

Every one that claims to be vampires fails to present any account to seperate " vampires" from fiction. I am confident that the reason is as simple as they have nothing substancial, and or what they do have is based completely on a fictious creation.

it's the same whenever anything is popular you have to take the good with the bad. The bonus is though there is usually some good ones that show up that might not have otherwise.

Dabbler just needs to start arguements, I guess.

We can all share our opinions here without being told they are wrong, right?

no, your wrong about that chica! LOL

seriously tho, i agree with you completely. the forum should be a place where we can freely discuss things without someone just jumping in to tell us how mistaken we are because we arent saying what they want us to say.


i love to read trashy fiction...as much as i do enjoy reading the words of plato, caesar, tacitus, adam smith, ayn rand, churchill, etc, sometimes i just want to lose myself in a fun tale.

i find no harm in just reading to enjoy a story. ive been known to read paperback books whose main characters are spiderman or batman lol.
(and yes, i get some looks when i do it in public).
~W~

.. nothing wrong with trash, in it's place Sir. But when the trash subverts the original and, becomes the norm, there's a real problem.

I see your point, but to me it's like Indiana Jones movies.

I'm a history freak, and those movies are comic books, devoid of much in the way of facts. It took me some time to really enjoy them, but I did. I just had to (as mystery science theater used to have in its theme song) "repeat to yourself it's just a show and you should maybe just relax".

What does it matter what the outside world knows, doesnt know, or imagines about us?
I truly don't care.
~W~

Trash is the make up of authors who have nothing to add to the life of the vampire in todays society, bring back the lore or myth in which it started and make the vampire the evil in which was thought lets see if people than would appreciate the style of the vampire than.

Trash is the make up of authors who have nothing to add to the life of the vampire in todays society, bring back the lore or myth in which it started and make the vampire the evil in which was thought lets see if people than would appreciate the style of the vampire than.

Trash is the make up of authors who have nothing to add to the life of the vampire in todays society, bring back the lore or myth in which it started and make the vampire the evil in which was thought lets see if people than would appreciate the style of the vampire than.

Trash is the make up of authors who have nothing to add to the life of the vampire in todays society, bring back the lore or myth in which it started and make the vampire the evil in which was thought lets see if people than would appreciate the style of the vampire than.

"Darker than dark." I died inside at that statement.

Anyways. At one point or another, every thing becomes popularized fiction. It can't honestly be helped. Good and bad things will always come from it though.

Honestly, I'm to the point where I just want everyone, both fad lovers and fad haters to just GET OVER IT! But that's just me. I understand both sides and I'm right in the middle. Neutral. I'm Switzerland. =.= (Sorry, I really couldn't resist.)

I think it's sad, that, yes, a great deal of the well known and accepted "vampire legend" has been corrupted and many of the fad lovers today have no clue where it originated from. But, we have to understand, that not everyone can have the same view or like the same thing or believe in certain things. Many of the new twists on the legends are unique and original which, to be honest, is what a lot of people try for when choosing their interests.

As for believing or not believing in vampires... That's not even part of the discussion topic and really should not even be a part of this debate. I'm seriously surprised people don't get busted for that on here.

my post never said anyone was wrong,

I simple chsllanged the implication that was made that people who are content with vampires as the lore, and don't subscribe to those who say otherwise are ' foolish' and ignore something ' obvious'.

Believe what you want about vampires, but don't be so arrogant about your
beliefs, thats all.

I will go ahead and say something here, very similar to what I wrote in another thread.

I would rather have book/movies about vampires, werewolves, and fantastical beings than any other genre. Even if said books or movies come in the form or overdone story lines and piss-poor scripts.

for instance ...were it not for hollyweird, id never have discovered that vamps and werewolves (lycans? LOL) not only hate each other, but are at war.
i think this concept tho was invented by either whitewolf, or by the movie abbot and costello meet frankenstein! lol
~W~

Very well said, Wolf

Dabbler, what is seen as arrogant to you is what may very well be true. An open mind will show you more than you ever dreamed.
Trust me.

Abott& Costello.
Though arrogance isn't a prerequisite of this or any thread: to me, it would seem there are alway's some who Lord it over others, with money, power, or information.

But.. that said the thread referred to popular fiction.
Now, not all fiction that is popular is bad fiction. sure I acknowledge that!

my pisser, is when Hollywoods' take on something subverts what it good already.

and mixing genre here, a moment: I like Robin Hood.
effin BBC trashed my hero with their recent take on it.

Recent fiction is doing the same to the vampire: I'd atest.

Angelus

Great post, many popular characters not only Vampires and werewolfs have been tainted by hollywoods influence on the concept of money making. i look back at when movies were movies late 60's to early 80's., Money makers on original ideas, yet did not stray to far from the lore in which the characters became. yet in todays hollywood fantasia of taking and remaking the movies that held records of the past and giving a new twist on old ideas, really dispise remakes, seems to ruin the integrity of the past.

Just because a movie doesn't follow "ancient vampire lore" doesn't mean it's not a good vampire movie. Case in point "Ultraviolet" an excellent vampire movie that is far removed from the "traditional vampire". Another movie with a similar plot, good story line but unfortunately lower budget "The Breed" but still a good watch. Even back in the early days when the genre was still young as far as hollywood is concerned there were movies that tried to ride on the coat tails of "Dracula" some were terrible but others were quite good. I'm sure a lot of fans of "Nosferatu"(the 1st vampire film) thought what the hell Dracula doesn't even look like a vampire. Yes believe it or not "Dracula" was not the 1st in film or in print. "Dracula" was just the 1st highly successful vampire. I know most of the adults know about "Nosferatu" but probably not near as many younger people and I'm sure a lot of each that now know didn't know before coming on VR. I think I'll start a poll to see how many have actually seen it.

VampC,

I am open to read any material that you present regarding the matter of " Factual Vampires". Since you imply that Hollywood, and lore have so misrepresented the " actual vampire" then it is now your obligation to present the sources that account for " factual vampires".

Because, an open mind is one thing, but one must also open ones eyes.

Your comment, and Fallen Stars comment demonstrate arrogance, and imply that people who conside with the traditional vampire model are somehow deluded, and ignorant to " the genuine article". To imply this, it is reasonable to expect that someone will inquire as to what reference material convinced you/ informed you of another " genuine" account of vampires in history.

In fact this demonstrates interst on my part, thus my mind is indeed open.

I do not see how simply requesting such a source offends a percentage of those who identify as vampires.

.. ooOOOOHHh, Wolvie. Good one, 'UltaViolet.'

Yeah, there's alway's summat the breaks the mould well.

Fringe depictions are often exceptions to breaking traditional paradims.

Taking liberty in adaptation is one thing, but gratituously adopting a genre to target a market.. a fine demonstration of how predictable demographics can be.

but if hollywood doesn't put out what a target audience wants then said audience won't go to the movies. no audience no hollywood, it is a business after all.

I am more addressing the authors, those that obviously use the prevailing genre as a vehical to their latest work.

Take an novel idea ( that had no vampire characters) and add vampire characters to preexisting story.

Such books will become obvious after awhile.

Though I am still suspect of those that " Protest to much" the trend, is it not often a case of " We lash at others over what we see in ourselves."

Fans that feel more devote, gnashing teeth at fadsters.

Tisk tisk, very telling of the insecurity of those " more serious" about the genere.

I consider myself pretty serious about the genre and it really doesn't bother me about the "fad type fans" especially since many will in turn become true fans of the genre and as they learn about it and some will then later expand on it. The same is pretty much true for the authors.

.. by and by the crap gets washed out by the wake..
Sci-fi is an example of how shallow attempts to graft the genre can sink a less then noble author.

So in review, I can see how an issue arose between Vampchica, and myself.

The Vampire is fictional, Vampyre is alledged to be nonfictional.

Though personally I have never read any nonfiction regarding Vampyres.

I am not certain how popular fiction effects those who distingush themselves as Vampyres, perhaps though, that is a topic for a different thread.

Pardon my apparent tangent.

Hmmm, dear me.
How can a spelling diferentiate the pretentious from the non-pretentious: **Grins**

Or is that still the same subject?

Methinks it is.

That said, isn't it a pity, that the diluted telling of a tale, is often the one that will be remembered?

Thus the niche that saturation marketing creates.. " number 1 bestsellers" are often created by allowing werehouses to buy blocks/ pallets of the book.

Same thing happens with " hit singles".

Why should someone know who Vlad Tepes was? He wasn't a vampire and it is a proven fact now that Dracula was not based on him since they found the writer's notes. Besides the character is a Count of Hungarian descent if you read the book and not Romanian. Enough said about that.

The Count was referred to as a Székely. Székely or Szekler people (Hungarian: Székely, Romanian: Secui, German: Szekler, Latin: Siculi) are Hungarian people living in Transylvania. (wikipedia) Vlad was referred to as a Vlach which is something different.

Read here: http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~emiller/elizabeth_miller.html

Just because there are stories about creatures coming out of various areas being NOW called vampires and in more modern times, only a few hundred years ago called that or something similar does not prove they ever existed. Why should they be patterned in books after myth when over and over on this forum alone people profess they do not exist? The werewolf has been presented in a myriad of ways yet no one complains about that. Vampires are for entertainment value and for some, they want to see something other than a bloodthirstry, animalistic creature. It is just like all these stories about Elizabeth Bathory drinking blood and bathing in it which is total hogwash. I have done the research and she clearly was a sadistic, serial killer. There is nothing in the actual records about bathing in blood or drinking it. Some writers put that idea in their book and it has been reiterated ever since and there is no basis in fact. When you pass stories around hundreds of years, they take on a life of their own depending on the superstitions of the area. The Roma are responsible for a lot of the stories which come out of India and other Eastern areas. Geesh. These stories are fiction but it doesn't mean there aren't real vampires just because a sort of subculture clique as one called it formed. It is a good way to stay in the shadows. It also doesn't mean they are bloodthirsty, immortal or anything else. In fact, the word is the problem.

Anyone almost, can get published these days, and the quality of the writing depends really on the taste of the individual reading it. Look at the Twilight series. People like the story but her first book is not that well written. I was surprised when I started to read it and stopped and haven't read anything else. My daughter has read them all and she says she gets better with each book. It was blatant she was a novice writer but so what, bfd. Everyone has to start somewhere. You don't have to write the perfect classic for a book to be entertaining and the genre is open for all types of stories since vampires are considered mythical. As for the i and y spelling of the word, that is for differentiation and nothing more. It is not elitist or anything else and many don't use it at all. My advice is if you like the predatory, bloodthirsty view of the vampire then don't read these other books. You can find a synopsis on amazon usually so if the story is not appealing don't buy the book or go see the movie.

firstly, vampyre, vampire, whatever...im not politically correct enough to care for spelling conventions. it sounds the same, and im fine with either spelling.

as to the fiction itself....
interview with a vampire had very little to do with the lore of vampires, or about those we have seen refered to as vampyres.
still, it was a fun book.

i have several shelves of such fun books and wouldnt change it.
i especially enjoyed 30 days of night.

as ive stated before...it doesnt have to be accurate to be fun...and i read for the fun of it.
~W~

ok one little note on the off topic tangent vampyre is the old German spelling and it's pronounced fampeer I don't know anyone that says it that way in the U.S.

back on topic:

The bottom line is whether the genre is currently in or out you still get about the same amount of good vs bad, but what's popular may not always be the good and vice-versa. I've found though it is possible to enjoy a book/movie whether or not it follows more traditional stories of the same subject if you take it for what it is as just entertainment. The thing is the farther it is from traditional the better the story and plot have to be. The only thing that really bothers me is when they take a story let's say like "Dracula" and completely changes it. So Dracula is really an alien scout looking for a planet for his species to colonize and they procreate by biting a "host" which allows a parasitic virus to enter the host's blood stream. Vanhelsing has been tracking this "vampire" race from his home world which was completely converted save for him the only survivor. It would be alright though if it were different characters but to mess with an original like that is just unacceptable to me. BTW that was a hypothetical in case you hadn't guessed. Though I wouldn't be surprised if someone took that idea and ran with it lol

god i hope you guys dont hate my movie when its finished

Wolvie, you read Vampirella??

Reads like it.. and that was overt sexualising of the story...

wow, is vampirella still published????

when i was a kid, i read her, and two other mags by the same publisher called erie and creepy.

loved em...wish they were still around...


hope your not dissing vampirella!!! LOL
~W~

No waaaay would I did Vampirella. I got hold of her on e-comic: the same copy as I had in the seventies, printed by Warren. [Anyone want it, email me.]

"Damn hands .. typo!"

No waaaay would I dis Vampirella. I got hold of her on e-comic: the same copy as I had in the seventies, printed by Warren. [Anyone want it, email me.]

consider yourself emailed! lol

jokes aside, i reiterate, even if the vampires in the novel are all space aliens...
even if they have some idiotic tale of vampires and werewolves being at war....
even if they arent afraid of crosses...
so what?
is it a good tale? thats my only concern.

and no one has told me yet why it should be a concern.
~W~

consider yourself emailed! lol

jokes aside, i reiterate, even if the vampires in the novel are all space aliens...
even if they have some idiotic tale of vampires and werewolves being at war....
even if they arent afraid of crosses...
so what?
is it a good tale? thats my only concern.

and no one has told me yet why it should be a concern.
~W~

Read a few and liked the ones I did she's just hard to find unless you live close to a big comic store. I do have a complete set of Vampirella trading cards. :)

.. and given a search, it seems clips of the film can be found. [Call me obsessed!]

Heck i have a signed card from here from a collectible card promotion one out of 500. love Vamperllla

.. yet, post a pic of her, as portayed by Max Masumi and it get's banned.

"I don't know why?" **Grins**

I will also mention something that I have had to point out to my boyfriend... (he uses this certain movie to point out the shortcomings of other ones)

In The Lost Boys there are many many things that spit in the face of the more harsh and violent (in other words good) vampires stories. Case in point, the overly noticeable stripper glitter added to the blood. There was no vampire_myth_supporting reason for it, but it was there.

.. true. yet, I enjoyed it.

[am I arguin against myself here?]

in my humble opinion...yes. lol

(and ...did you have a web site for vampirella paraphernalia?)

note: vampirella doesnt exactly conform to traditional vampire myth/legend. so you might want to examine your point of view my friend.
~W~

I have never heard of this before...
Someone mind explaining it to a teen only on this earth for 16 yrs. minus a week?!
Lol

.. **smiles**

a cult classic, for people my age and, younger [??]
beautifully drawn, sexy as hell.. and msg me & I'll tell more.. fella.

[[Damn, I was arguing against myself, with my interest in Vampirella, I know it!]]

Will do, as soon as I get a free moment!
Thank you

So it is a comic?

yes, sexual and vampiric in one, have the first several issues of this comic, another ploy to draw audiences in to vampiric realm

.. and very well drawn.

The film was erm, "not very good."

No it was not, yet the movies developed more on the ploy of the romantic version of the undead and not the hideous creatures of myth like 30 days of night.

Lol. I know that movie. It is old. Media portrays vampires in whatever light they can. Doesn't make it right. But I personally like reading those books and seeing those movies. Sometimes an escape from reality is a good thing. The media isn't trying to tell the actual truth about vampires. They just want to make it good enough to get people to pay to see it or buy it. That's all. It's just a book. It's just a movie.

Vampire movies or books play to the media in which they want to target, money has become the source of all movies and books of horror and not the fairy tales in which we grew up with

.. all of which brings me back to why this thread came into being: problem is, when summat becomes a fashion, it becomes less than it was ..

True until the next wave that incircles it, like a pool of water and its ripple. yet we see as history that every year or so something effects the vampire movie screen and thus it comes to pass.

I do not htink it totally disapears yet it ripple on lower and lower tell it startes again. an endless ripple to say.