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So for a while i've been pondering the mindset of a serial killer specifically. Not someone who kills for revenge, or because of trauma, but picks random people.

The purpose of this thread is purely academic, designed for a debate to be carried out by mature, serious people, because i'm really rather curious to see some of your answers.

What do you think a person has to believe in order to live with themselves after committing what is regarded as the most perverse act known to man?

Not all serial killers are random.

Nor is it necesarily what a serial killer believes, that compells them to hunt, then murder.

A common denominator is Psycopathy, no conscious, impulsive, murder is to them is an exercise. To experience a rush accepted outlets (sports)are not appealing.

It is somewhat natural to murmer under your breathe," I could kill that person!"

Serial Killers, and Spree Killers lack the rational inhibition, shrug of consequences.

A serial killers only remorse after being caught is commonly the regret that they got caught.

John Douglas one of the first Profilers laid the mind of serial killers out pretty well.

I believe anyone who takes a life believes they are doing it for a good reason.. The mind controls so many of our impulses.. Most severe trauma can trigger a glitch in your mind to be created, but like I stated in a previous post everyones minds and thoughts are made to be different. So I will use you and me for example..

Say you had your father killed, that can trigger your brain to make you think killing is okay and justified by the overwhelming emotions and thoughts which are manipulated by the twist of your brain caused by the trauma of a parent being killed..
So therefor with murder being on your mind so much it becomes and obsession. Or an urge to be put in someone else's shoes.. As well as the urge to make someone else feel as you have.. By taking their parent.. Which someone in such a manic state of depression can feel abandoned and alone as if the world doesn't care and they are left be themselves. Which is normal for someone who has lost a parent, but since everyones brains are wired differently. You could feel is so much more severe the I. So therefor you would take matters into your own hands..

I myself.. My father was killed when I was 14.. My brain is wired to where I am very compassionate. I see myself as somewhat of an Empath..
SO I take on the role of the parent. I take care of my mother, the home, myself. Trying to take the ease off of everyone else that was effected by my father's death..


Its the same pretty much with any number of people as you can tell with the billions of people that do not kill compared to the thousands if not million people that have ever taken a life..

But also it might not be mental. Or an off set of the mind..
If could be a right, a right to bare arms and a right to defend your country..
Some people in the military can live with killing bc it saves the life of others, where some are affected by it for the rest of their life.. .

hope that inputs some.


It also could be purely sadistic, where they get off on killing and suffering... Beating the crap out of someone just isn't enough for some people lol :) sorry >,< hehe

As usual, have to agree with Dabbler on this. A serial killer is, by very definition, sociopathic. However, it is far far more than just this.

To take pleasure in other's pain to the extent of killing innocents is also the ultimate cowardice and callousness. Such an individual truly deserves to suffer at least as much as he made others suffer. And, frankly, to feel sympathy or empathy for such a dispicable person who has sunk to the greatest depths of sub-Human selfishness and self-centeredness is to seriously risk seeking to cultivate such eternally damning, narcisistic evil within him. And while such persons do indeed wreak destruction to the lives of those they so viciously and cowardly kill... yet the ultimate destruction of both spirit and mind, is to themselves eternally.


- Upir'

I dont think they really understand what has gone on. I think that they go on thinking that nothing happen

I don't believe they think of anything, i think in their own way they justify each killing.
But in my opinion serial killers, have to some degree personality disorders, and i think, in my opinion that would be mainly psychopathy, i think they would have to to commit these crimes, a lack of empathy and conscience, if they didn't they wouldn't be able to repeatedly kill would they?
I would say they are predators, they use people to satisfy their own sick needs, they must know what they are doing is wrong because they, like everyone else who does something wrong, don't want to get captured, which would say that they do not care. They simply don't care about the terror and pain they inflict upon their victims, like an addict they get their high and feel the euphoria of it, but then soon it wears off, after that they are only worried about when they get their next fix.
Pscyhopathy can be diagnosed in children and is recognised as conduct disorder, but, not all children diagnosed with this disorder grow up to be psychopaths, so i think trauma does have something to do with it, you would assume that a child who has the disorder and grows up in either a physically or emotionally abusive home would be at a higher risk of presenting psychopathic tendencies in adulthood versus a child that grows up in a normal loving household. Or maybe there is another trigger, perhaps they have more than one mental disorder...

Nearly all serial killers are what is called a sociopath. A sociopath is someone who has Antisocial Personality Disorder. (commonly mistaken for psychopath.) A sociopath is a person who feels no remorse for any wrong that they do. They are usually very intelligent but lack any empathy or sympathy (unless it's for themselves.) The only thing they ever regret about killing people is the fact that they got caught. They simply "don't care" about anything and have absolutely no respect for any living being. As children they usually kill small animals. They usually don't have a father and have a crazy mother and if they do have a father, he is equally as crazy as mom. Most serial killers have some sort of sexual disorder as well. I love researching serial killers. One of the most notorious serial killers with a sexual disability was Jack the Ripper. Anyway, you get the point I reckon.

Psychopathy vs. sociopathy Wikipedia
"David T. Lykken proposes psychopathy and sociopathy are two distinct kinds of antisocial personality disorder. He believes psychopaths are born with temperamental differences such as impulsivity, cortical underarousal, and fearlessness that lead them to risk-seeking behavior and an inability to internalize social norms. On the other hand, he claims sociopaths have relatively normal temperaments; their personality disorder being more an effect of negative sociological factors like parental neglect, delinquent peers, poverty, and extremely low or extremely high intelligence. Both personality disorders are the result of an interaction between genetic predispositions and environmental factors, but psychopathy leans towards the hereditary whereas sociopathy tends towards the environmental."

"What did you do today?"
"Nothing"

This is a bit of a conversation you've probably had yourselves.
It isn't true that you did nothing, just that what you have done, you deem insignificant.
For some, i'm guessing it's the same way, that to take a life is as mundane as eating breakfast, or kicking a stone.
Once something is meaningless, there is no consequence in the act.
At some point in their lives everyone has killed something.
i'm not accusing anyone, just using common actions as an example. Many people will actually congratulate someone who has killed a spider. It isn't in self defense most of the time, the spider has literally no interest in harming the person, and would live on just fine if placed outside.
It's a battle of significance in some cases, i believe.
And in this case, i don't believe cowardice comes into play?
I won't say that some killers are not cowards, but all of them?
i think not

it would be a person that saw other people as non people.
my understanding is that they also seek to find the thrill of taking a life....
and since the life they take they see as some sort of sub-being, it has little meaning to them. since there is little meaning, there isnt much of a thrill, so they have to kill again.

saw that in some movie once LOL
~W~

I feel that serial killers kill because they have such a twisted view of society that they can kill and feel no remorse. They get a rush out of others misery. Granted this is a general view that doesn't fit every serial killer.

What if the kills were justified by an immense imbalance between the planet the creator the opponent and resources?

Just asking...slay a few...save the many?

We are where we are...unless someones hiding a wand?