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Sex and blood permeate the pages of vampire fiction, so it seems that biology rules vampires. Presumably, the blood allows their eyes to glisten, their brains and muscles to function, their erections to grow, and their vaginas to moisten.

In your opinion, does a vampire have a working body with working parts?

If they don't have a circulatory system, then how does staking through the heart harm it?

Where does all the sucked blood in the vampire's gut go and how it is used by them?

this is like role play entertainment right cuz all who i know who believe they are vampires have a working body just as anyone alive would have.

Since we're talking about fiction here- I guess it all depends on how the author writes the story.

Exactly Images, we're talking fictional vampires here. In my experience, the authors don't deal with the biology. In older short stories, the vampire was described as floating in a coffin of blood. How did the blud get there? Did they regurgitate it? Was it the best beauty cream ever?

In any case, whether old fiction or new, the vamps are sucking a hell of a lot of blood. Which authors have you come across who deal with where the blood goes? What did they say?

I think mainly they don't deal with it. It's kind of like a religion in a certain sense: We can't explain where the blood goes, so we don't go there. You just have to have faith in the whole undead thing.

I wouldn't think to apply human biology to a mystical, fictional monster. Being mystical and all, I could come up with an answer that it 'mystically' transforms into their undead sustaining energy. No need to be pooped out that way. Just burned off like gas and onto the next heart beater.

The magic is in the magic?

I guess the magic never turns into reality. Keep the mystical fires burning. Always find a neater answer than how we do it in the real world.

this question really can't be answered, because it can't happen in reality.... obviously... so if I was the author I can say... all my vampires eat flesh and blood and poop out rainbows and be correct.... why? cuz I'm the author...

LMAO

"Sex and blood permeate the pages of vampire fiction, so it seems that biology rules vampires. Presumably, the blood allows their eyes to glisten, their brains and muscles to function, their erections to grow, and their vagina to moisten."

Wow, what a sentence. Vampires are creation of the Folklore and imagination of some books and movies producers. Erections, vagina moisten, I don't recalled seen that phenomenon in any vampire. A vampire is a creature that need the blood to survive to get arouse.

What ever happened to imagination, and speculation?

Why Ho-Hum anything outside of ones personal conviction of vampires? as if fiction is just so 'not worthy'.

I am sure there have been authors who wrote about anatomical
processes in vampires (undead vampires).

My best, and simplest notion is that blood is absorbed by spongy cells, and acts as an oil. As the blood lowers, the corpse dries, and it becomes difficult to funtion for the vampire (Undead vampire).

depends on the kind of vamp we are talking of here...undead or living.

both would use the energy from the blood...

an undead would not have functioning body parts...its basically a ghost.

a living vampire tho would have all the normal parts, but might not function without the energy provided by the blood.
after all...i dont tend to be in a strongly sexual mood when im really hungry.
~W~

The key word in the question being "fictional." Even the marauding vampires in 30 days showed some thought processes (and passing affection). A ghost is typically not capable of anything beyond repetitive action.

A Demon, on the other hand, might act more purposefully.

But most vampire fiction depict vampires living very much like humans, only with blood, and lots of sex. These beings are copulating like crazy, usually with humans. Not only do they have the desire, they have working equipment including wet tongues.

So back to the question, and using my imagination, I think what this reduces down to is the question of being UNDEAD.

Undead is not dead. Undead is not a reanimated corpse. Undead is a human who has been magically transformed into an immortal being. The magic is in blood.

There is no answer to that because if they are dead, they don't digest anything. So where does it go? It is totally illogical but for fiction you can make up anything you want to explain the phenomenon. Even your vampires don't have to be these silly monsters that run around amok with uncontrollable thirst. Hasn't anyone wondered where it all goes....what goes in must come out, lol.

I must mention that not a single person who declares themself a vampire has stepped up to explain the physiologic process involved in their alledged feeding. So it is reasonable to conclude that the subject is equally open for speculation. Nothing brought to the table, but Ho-hum to fictional vampires..

im so sorry dab, ill try and rectify that .
i consider myself to be a vampire.
that said, please see my previous post.
:c)
~W~

lw, you hint to the direction, but provide no cobble stones for the path.

perhaps the forum would benefit from a thread on the physiology
of those who identify as vampires, while an answer may not be reached, a consensus of potential avenues may be reached.

while technically a ghost (inhabitant of a corpse) may not need sustainance, it propels the corpse to consume blood.. the energy you refer to, would be metaphysical then correct. so would the blood be a conductor, and i could reason that, because vampires mostly refrain from drinking blood from rigor corpses.

so is your idea of vampirism metaphysical, or biophyisical?

you do open the thread though..

Dab, I think an easy way to answer your yearning for a thread on those that believe they are vampires...

If they want to call themselves vampires, use any or all of the definition of said word, making "Vampire" a title for them, whats the big deal?

Ha! Ha!

How do the undead use the blood they ingest...?

Thankfully... LMAO! They are undead, they will take any blood they can get, and be very glad they are getting it.

id have to say metaphysical. the only things that separates me (that i know of at least) from the average person are pretty subjective honestly.
i have the best sense of smell of anyone i know of (i once tracked down a girl i was dating in a walmart from following her scent),

i have a very fast rate of healing (once had third degree burns on my leg from when i was a firefighter- the doctors at the burn unit of the hospital wanted me to come back and see them twice a week to make sure all was healing ok and to decide if i would need skin grafts. i healed so quickly that they rechecked charts, and argued if they had me confused with someone else. in the end they took lots of photos of the burn, and now, several years later, i dont even have scaring.)

i hate sunlight...if im forced to work in the sun, i burn very quickly, and feel very weak. i cant really go into summer sunshine for more than a few min without a large hat, long sleeves, long pants, and shades.

i seem to age more slowly than those around me. the guys in my hs graduating class are almost all overweight, and balding now. when i told some of them recently about my rather extended hike on hadrians wall back in june, they were amazed. most place me from 10 to 15 years younger than my true age.

and yes...energy. if i dont do some sort of feeding..psi, blood, sexual...then i feel quite weak and out of sorts.

now debunking time. the physical traits (sense of smell, healing, sun allergy, aging,) are all things that anyone could have...i totally agree.

the energy thing could be merely psychosomatic,

what it comes down to is that for me at least, all of this comes together into a mix that i call vampire.
i dont demand belief from others, i think it seems silly myself in fact, but its a bit like religion. you believe or you dont.
i just feel this so strongly within myself that its just the way it is for me.

that said, i now havei lain myself out as a target, and if you feel the need to hurl stones, so be it. i wont try defend my view...how can i?
so odd to be a rational being with an irrational belief.
lol
~W~

there it is, such as it is rare.. notable summary, with more then vague content.

Thank you.

All is vanity in the vampire realm. A lot of posturing. Doesn't address the question posted. A thread on bloodsucking questions for humans would be fine. Go do it.

could you mean.. All is Vain .. hehe

i answered the question posed in the subject thread i thought. i did answer for undead and for living vamps, but again, it was only my opinion, and your mileage may vary.
~W~

@Lordwolf


"id have to say metaphysical. the only things that separates me (that i know of at least) from the average person are pretty subjective honestly.
i have the best sense of smell of anyone i know of (i once tracked down a girl i was dating in a walmart from following her scent),

i have a very fast rate of healing (once had third degree burns on my leg from when i was a firefighter- the doctors at the burn unit of the hospital wanted me to come back and see them twice a week to make sure all was healing ok and to decide if i would need skin grafts. i healed so quickly that they rechecked charts, and argued if they had me confused with someone else. in the end they took lots of photos of the burn, and now, several years later, i dont even have scaring.)

i hate sunlight...if im forced to work in the sun, i burn very quickly, and feel very weak. i cant really go into summer sunshine for more than a few min without a large hat, long sleeves, long pants, and shades.

i seem to age more slowly than those around me. the guys in my hs graduating class are almost all overweight, and balding now. when i told some of them recently about my rather extended hike on hadrians wall back in june, they were amazed. most place me from 10 to 15 years younger than my true age.

and yes...energy. if i dont do some sort of feeding..psi, blood, sexual...then i feel quite weak and out of sorts.

now debunking time. the physical traits (sense of smell, healing, sun allergy, aging,) are all things that anyone could have...i totally agree.

the energy thing could be merely psychosomatic,

what it comes down to is that for me at least, all of this comes together into a mix that i call vampire.
i dont demand belief from others, i think it seems silly myself in fact, but its a bit like religion. you believe or you dont.
i just feel this so strongly within myself that its just the way it is for me.

that said, i now havei lain myself out as a target, and if you feel the need to hurl stones, so be it. i wont try defend my view...how can i?
so odd to be a rational being with an irrational belief.
lol
~W~"




I agree, I am totally normal except for a few tiny differences, for one thing I would love to find someone who weighs as much as I am, and is as strong as I am.
and theres other things too.

LordWolf, you have a fan! Meet FateUnseen. And FU, thanks for the personal ad. Now you two go off and do what you do, and leave the discussion of FICTIONAL vampires to we puny humans.

THAT WAS CREEPY BTW....
kinda stalkerish...

but anywaaaays.
It would be digested as anything else would be...
some foods do something for the body...
same as some medications would do somethings
for the body then simply pass through the digestive system
and what cannot be used [i would believe it would be
wastes found in the blood] would be secreted...

I don't see why it will be any different than if you took a pill.

some people eat and drink the blood of animals... however some people can't tolerate large amounts and vomit... much like if someone had a stomach ulcer and vomit blood. Their body doesn't wish to digest it, or simply cannot.

Here's my belief on the subject:
I believe vampires use the blood, psi... To slow down their metabolism and control their hunger. I think being in the sun speeds up their cells so much that it kills them.

the sun speeds up their cells huh?
i never head that before...
but pretty interesting none the less

"If they don't have a circulatory system, then how does staking through the heart harm it?"

um... it kills them... just like it will kill anyone else... =]

The topic is fiction, spectulation.

Why not start a thread for those who identify as vampires to spectulate, and present their ideals, and notions?

Popular belief is that the vampire must die, reliinquish its human life to rise again as the undead, but that still doesn't answer the question of where the blood goes.

The Egyptians had one of the most enduring Cult of the Dead, and I think their beliefs influenced a lot of our theories on vampires, and religion and the afterlife, including Christianity.

Their whole thing was that the body must not be corrupted in order to have eternal life, hence mummification.

So we have the physical entity maintained and the concept of immortality introduced.

Next, they believed that the heart was the seat of feeling and thought, so it was important that it be preserved. If it was destroyed, goodbye immortality.

Osirus, btw, was the first resurrecti (new word), and the model for subsequent Christian resurrections.

So re the blud, I think we arrive at the differentiation between the dead and the undead, the undead and the resurrected, and the undead and reanimated corpses.

Since fictional vampires have typically been written as super emo with working parts, I'd say they're magically afflicted humans, otherwise known as demons.

They get the blood from the people they kill and turn and stuff. THe blood goes into their body, runs through their organs making them work again, but they have to keep feeding or they will "die". That's MY take on it ;)

What goes in must come out?Is that where blood sausage comes from?

lol... blood sausage?
um... if thats what you wanna say

hey ur the author here!
write a book about vampires
and how they are the creators of blood sausage...
though i wonder if THEY can eat their sausages
[since it's their own waste and all]
=]
but hey, it makes more sense than a lot of other
things that happens in the world.
this makes me never wanna eat a blood sausage again though

Vampires don't die if they don't get blood, and it doesn't have to be human blood in order for them to "live." Everyone has hit on one part of the mystery. Except I'm not so sure about the blood sausage theory.

First, as humans I don't think they don't really die. Lot's of people hate that word "transform" but I think it gets closest to what happens. The human changes, and while some vital forces in their bodies remain the same, others don't.

Sex, for example. 19th century fictional vampires were star seducers, and craved affection and companionship, but they either didn't go all the way or the authors didn't show it.

Anne Rice's vampires were the ultimate erectically dysfunctional. Lots of sexual tension, lots of almost there, and then a lot of brooding and violence because they could feel passion, but they couldn't do anything about it.

energy in the blood is what gives them fuel, that is it, no other form of nutrion is found

what you never see is when the vampire has to pee...

i guess they might refer to it as crimson showers?

lol



~W~

maybe fictional vampires also excrete the blood they ingest the same as humans but the authors chose not to include such mundane information in the book, kinda like the TV shows, where there are never any bathrooms in the homes.

I don't think vampyres actually pee. I've never heard of a vampire taking a dump or going pee or any other form of going to the bathroom.

and cadrewolf, I think we're talking about fictional vampires here, not energy vampyres :)

and thanks for writing that fyre. That's pretty much what I was trying to say.

For instance.. say you do an autopsy on a fictional vampire. Some organs.. such as the liver, kidneys and gall bladder would all be white because he/she hadn't drank any blood to keep things moving. The organs are dead. Therefore, they are white. So yes, a Vampire can die from not getting any blood.

Interesting, where did you read that, sexy? Book? Author?