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I suspect people who live unfulfilled lives fear death (in the moment) the most, regret is such a lode stone around their necks.

Death is the ultimate Unknown, the barrier through which none returns to provide its secrets. We do not know for certain until we have passed through its shadowy membrane whether we shall still exist on the other side or not. We cannot know whether we shall simply fade into oblivion or whether we shall continue on in some form perhaps better or perhaps worse than where we are and who we are now.

If it is Human nature to fear the unknown, then as Death is by far the greatest imaginable Unknown, then understandably our fear of it must also be the greatest, as well.l

This, to my view at least, even more than the accompanying pain of death, is what fascinates and terrifies us most.


- Upir'

a lot of people are scared of the finality of death, as well as their lack of accomplishments when death comes.
"I cant die here, like this, there's too much i don't own"
or, "This method of dying is really disgraceful and i dont want to be remembered as the dude who went down choking on playdough"
Also i think there's an element of what everyone will think of the deceased when they're gone that scares them. For a lot of people, the only fate worse than death is being forgotten once dead.

This thread pairs well with the thread, "In Our Final Moments"

Personally after I reached the threshold of death I learned that cluttering ones mind creates so much static in ones Finale Vision.


I refuse to live everyday preparing to die.

I have to agree with Upir. We all have our personal beliefs, but what if we're wrong? What if it really is oblivion? Are we really ready for the off button to be pushed?

"In Our Final Moments", is when you are there, at the blink of death, Through the gates of Death, is way before death is near. I mean, the moment is now. I'll see many people try to stay alive, even, when they know that death is within hours away. And let me tell you, at the blink of death, nobody want to die.

People that live fulfilled lives die with dignity, if one touches a significant amount of people the numbers present at the bed side are greater. People that lived abrasively will likely die with fewer people. These differences effect a dying person regardless of their adhered faith, and philosophies.

It is also the reason that if I was to be diagnosed with a terminal condition I would want a Living Wake.

Plus let us not forget superstitions hold sway with plenty of people still, and superstitions regarding death still abound even in "This Future of Greater Education".

I'm sure that nobody actively Wants to die, but i'm definitely certain that a good number of people who have died did so willingly, and were totally ok with it, if welcoming it.

The factor that last is grief for the living..

The key to grief is also regret, regretting not saying something that the moment required. So you get mediums who capitalize off such selfish grief. morning is one thing, and reminisce is something we can all do.

I don't fear death itself , but i think the people and the life i,ve lead would be the most comfortable situation for me . To leave everything I've ever known , all the attachment to the people i love and the comfort they provide , and to not know their love or feel their touch anymore , would definitely be the most traumatic thing about death . Loss is what i most fear in death . Whatever happens on the other side doesn't really matter , it's the detachment from this life that would make me shed the most tears .

I don't fear death, I fear for my loved ones when im gone. I worry about how my children will act when I die, how will my boyfriend deal with it? I know that the ones left behind carry our love in their hearts and in the memories of our time together.

I'm not afraid of death I am afraid of being forgotten

Death and dying are not talked about as much as life and living. As if it's not a part of us. Death is the ultimate and last transition of life as we know it. Whether we believe there is a life after death or not, some of us are just too scared to even think about it. I am comfortable with death, why? perhaps because I believe there is life after death. Death has always been a shadow to life for me. It's one in the same. Still I feel that it is the last learning experience one has.

Fear of the unknown.
And fear of having something in their life.... unfinished.

I'm at peace with not finishing everything, I set my standards too high and i will never be able to finish all that i want to do in my life.

Yes, it will unfortunalty come to pass for all. The fear of the anticipation! HOW ...will it happen? What will it feel like?
THAT is what causes the fear....along with the will to live...the deeply embedded primal instinct in ALL living beings.

Unless they are so cultured in believing in an after life.....that they welcome it.

Human beings put so much emotion on a natural process. Except for energy causing animation, living things are just biodegradable matter....with feelings.

Let us all hope...all the wars fought, blood shed.... all the religions and cults that give some hope for the beyond will all be worth it in the end.

Blind faith...gotta love it...right?

Know one really knows for sure ....at least enough to bring to light in undisputed form ..... unquestionable..... beyond a doubt......is there ANYTHING else? or will it be an endless black sleep?

Death is a fearful thing simply in its own right..because people fear change. Some may say they embrace it wholeheartedly...change that is...but at the depth of humanity's soul, we are craven creatures for our habitual comforts whatevery they may be. Death is the separation from our comforts...and for those who have lost all hope of comfort, death is the emrace for eternal peace they did not have in life.

I would say, death in all its ways depends entirely upon how you look at the glass in front of you. Is it half full, half empty?...or is it just half a glass?

I am sorry to throw a spanner in the works but it maybe that death is just temporary.this article shows evidence that time and the Universe is repeating itself over and over.
To summarise~ they looked at two of the Universes biggest monsters-Super massive black Holes.
They found the back ground radiation billions of light years away. Then very little for 20billion years...then they found it again...then nothing for another 20 Billion years.
This has been repeated looking at other old big explosions.It is like we just keep doing it over and over again.Oh no....please lord may you stop my Typo's next time. : )

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11837869

i'm not sure we can trust that.
i'm not sure we can even trust any mechanism that tries to find something 20 billion years old..
Sure it's really good at finding things a couple minutes old and a couple decades old, just like physics works pretty damn well here on earth, but once you expand it, (macro physics and the instrument i'm sure) it falls apart.

Death is a scary proposition. My Dad died a little over a year ago and he had a strong faith and he had a good life but when it came close he was scared, I saw it on his face. I don't think one can rationalize it away by ifs or buts...fear of the unknown is a scary prospect no matter what you believe because it is all based on faith and not proven fact. When you really think about it the birth experience must be pretty traumatic but we don't remember it consciously. We call it birth but what if being born is really death? An odd thought I know but we may be going from body to body and never remembering it. I did see my father shortly after in a dream and I asked what he was doing here and if he was ok and he was smiling saying he was fine. Now was that real or wishful thinking on my part that he was actually alive in some capacity in another place to make me feel better since I am older and that could happen to me at any time? I don't know, all I can do is have an opinion. I felt he was actually there and it was his way of easing my pain in regard to his passing.

If there is no place after the body stops functioning I believe there is nothing. I don't think anyone will even know because I almost died once and was out for a long time and when I woke up I couldn't remember a thing and if I hadn't I wouldn't have consciously ever known the difference as far as I could tell.

I see it as a persons Being is made up of three parts: Body, Mind, and Soul. a persons body is their physical being and it withers and dies eventually, a persons mind is their reason, sanity, and intelligence, and that too can die, if a person becomes crazy or gets in an accident and the higher brain dies, then that person has had their mind die on them. I define a persons Soul as their personality and all those little things that make us all unique, but can a persons soul die?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11837869

I am surprised this story did not get more coverage as it rules out the need for absolute Death a Creator God or ending. It probably means normal matter such as suns stars and planets have no free will. I wonder if we do and if next time I will not do this ...mwauhahhhaaa...long time to wait and see,
P.S.OMG I,ve got De ja vous, how depressing.

I work in a nursing home and believe me pain killers dont do much. (sorry to deaden the convosation but I've seen it) The people are only at peace when they die. (Also sorry if you have relatives in a Nursing home)
The pain in my opinion isnt what people fear, it's the fear of how are they going to go.
will it be untimely? will it be murder? will it be the way i dont want to go?
And after that, it's probably the fear of where next?
do we move on? were we wrong believing this? is there nothing?
basicly we torment ourselves in questions we will never know until we die.

I long for the time and place, yet know this life is only my next step to be yet lived again.

It is not death that I fear. I have done all I can do with what I have been given, and taken a few that were not mine to have. I have lived as if there was no tomorrow. I have loved as if it were oxygen. I have hated with a sick passion. I have hurt and grieved and experienced joy and peace. There is always more that I would like to do. I have my own 'bucket list' and add to it often. Should I die tonight, I will go in peace.

Other people's deaths is what I fear. For I shall then have to survive without them. There is no one in my life that is not there on purpose and that fulfill a purpose. I grieve for them because I am selfish.

Death has no fear for me abut being alive does but then with the upbringing I had til finally left home for good would probably make others fear being alive and not death unless they took the easy way out and committed suicide

When my time is up the only thing I want is that there will be no pain

I do not fear death for it is
no more then a part of life
that at some point comes
for all who live. so, as your
days come and go you sould
and must live your life
for to day and not for the future
or for running or hiding from
the past. This is just how
i feel about life and death. so
do not judge me on this if
you do not know or understand.

I don't fear death. Death like in the tarot deck, is only the beginning. Transformation. As infinite consciousness having an experience, when someone dies, in my opinion, the body is destroyed but the soul transmutes. Energy cannot be destroyed.

Death should never be a thing of dread or grief, but a celebration of birth into something else. I don't fear death because I know it is only a portal. The main reason people fear it though, is their fear of the unknown.
It is been said that in ancient times there was no death. That is a very interesting concept, and not associated with vampires and immortatlity. For if no one died, then the concept of mortality would be debated,lol

There was a time I feared the though of death, simply not knowing what would happen when it finally took me. I met it face to face and even though it wasn't the most pleasant of experiences I no longer fear death, ut welcome it when it comes. It tought me to live each day to its fullest, never regret past incidents, and love like there is no tomarro, for none of us truly know when it will knock on our door for the final journey onward.

I can relate to that utah vamp, btw good to see you posting.

I don't fear death at all. I have almost died several times. I guess that has made me not afraid. As far as grief and dread, I do not partake of such useless fruit.
When its your time, its your time, and if you were living it to the fullest to start with, there should be no grief or dread, only acceptance for what it is; the start of another journey.

i think people fear death because it can be painful and tey dont kno how their end will come. they could b crushed to death in a car crash, or they could die peaceful in their sleep. i believe this is the reason for the fear and despair.

Last night i had a dream.
In this dream i was standing in a rural town, when my attention was brought to a metal tube shooting across the sky. i hear someone say it's a bomb before i can see the flames approaching. I clench my eyes shut, not interested in seeing the people around me die, and briefly ponder whether or not a transition like this will hurt. But then i saw the flames take me and there was just blackness, a mental list of things i could do, and a difficulty to remain in existence.
So in the end, i was more worried about the pain necessary to achieve death than i was about death itself. i didnt really care about the fact i was dying. my dream self is self-destructive, good to know.
figured i'd share that here

not to rain on your parade but isn't this just the same topic as Approaching the gate of Death. Same concept that could have been combined into one thread?

The Pain of loss... not seeing that person ever again... And depending on how they died you might thing that it was your fault, and that you could of don something to stop it from happening... I lose plenty of person wail there alive... why would I want to lose more to death...