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And if so, how much? There are things I certainly find attractive about it for all the obvious reasons, but the real truth of bloody, brutal horror. I have a feeling that 99.99% of us would be on our knees, mewling for our mothers.
Any thoughts on this?

I do love the favourable dark side which is still unvailed and quest to me. after quest is answered, I will be satisfied. I dont say it is evil side, it may be goodside of dark I have experienced. and that matter is dark coz i dont find satisfying answer about them and yes I love them for they did not harm me and just gave me the evidence of their existance. but where and how is still in dark. If they like i can attach to them friendly myself coz they are not harming to me in their earlier presence. These days my inner seek them whenever such topic arise.

But yes harming dark side i dont wish to come to me. in my one holy book state that Saint Tulsidasji believed that no soul will harm you if you did not do any wrong to them. If you do good to them, tehy will be good for you and this case helped Tulsidas to meet the God in his materialistic life. Yes Ghost guided him to go the way where he would find the God.

my first answer...first thing that pops into my head is that yes...i do love the darkside....

but it depends so much on what you mean.

there are some lines i wont cross....but some that id cross in a heart beat.
to use a movie analogy, if the circumstances were right, would i become a darth vader like character, or perhaps a better example would be the emperor.

there was a scene in the revenge of the sith where anakin(vader) goes to the jedi temple, and kills all the kids.
id always rather admired vader in the other movies, but that scene made me want to kill him like a rabid dog.

so while i am drawn to the darkness, i could never be 100% dark...(that is completely amoral).
~W~

Funny thing that…

I love horror movies, the blood, the darkness of the spooky locations. But in real life I get sick at the sight of blood. I dislike war movies- even watching the news and seeing the death images is something I turn away from.

Friends say I like the Horror movies as I have never faced it in real life, as they have at their jobs.

So would I cry out for my mother if faced with a true darkness?

Maybe, maybe not. Depends on the darkness I think.

I like going into the dark unknown places in real life, taking photos. Love the idea of it even. What will you find is a great pull to me.

Will I walk into a room of murdered victims? No.

Would I walk into a battle field? No.

Could I kill? Yes, in the right circumstances.

Strange I know but that is my answer.

I would definitely say that I am enraptured by the darkness, and that i am mostly dark, but deep down there is the tiniest flicker of light that won't go out. still I refuse to allow myself to be ruled by either, therefore I twist both to serve my goals and ambitions, and as a result both strengthen me.

I would say yes, but temper my answer by adding this: let everyone decide for themselves what darkness is to them. Otherwise we will just end up debating semantics.

well you cant lie part of everyone fears death even alittle. but you have to brace it cause it cant be stoped

I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that most people like the Shadow-side of life and not the Dark-side. But who ever mentions the shadow-side? Darkside sounds better.

really? Shadow side sounds better than grey side

We all live within our nature and some see life darker because of their enculturation, it is not a choice but a reality we have been dealt in life.

Billy,I like that term" the shadow side" it encompasses alot of what I feel most would call the dark side as well..

Well in my case, i think the 'darkside' likes me. I do not have a desire to be 'dark', i'm perfectly happy in my bright happy light. lol But all in all, I feel pretty much the same way as LordWolf does about it. I think there should always be a line one should never cross for it will imbalance people if you allowed it to take control.

Well, as the quote goes:

"Black is beautiful"

Which would probably also mean the dark side is too.

And yes, what Billy said. HAH!

I have seen things that would distort the mind forever...I have truly seen a hell, if I may...I have seen death and the dying...
My mind and heart have no remorse nor care for the visions of grotesque images, to me it's art

For the sake of clarity, I would say that I consider darkness and evil as different. I think of darkness as more like a kind of energy.

I don't know that it's necessarily that we love the darkside, per se. I think it has a certain glamour that draws most people, and so we gravitate to it, to a degee. But most people I know would never even consider doing many of the things that those who have truly given themselves to dark do routinely.
There's a splendor in holding up a dark mirror and taking a look; but there's incredible danger in actually trying to be what we see in it. Myself, I embrace the dark to a point, but there are plenty of lines, as with others who have replied here, that I won't cross and believe should never BE crossed.
I would do thoroughly hideous things to an enemy to make the point that I won't tolerate certain actions or behaviors. But I wouldn't visit that same treatment on an innocent, regardless of the reason. Dark? Perhaps. But I don't believe that you should give that side free rein without justification or the means to turn it completely off again.

To me Darkness refers the things otherside of kowledge which is beyond human experience till human experience and know it and jujb it.

There are many para-normal incidences which are treated dark side incidences.

There are both evil and good side experiences which is in dark to human mind. For example: David blaine told in documentary film that when ever he was doing brathe holding exercise (meditation in extreme) underwater, horrific sound he used to experience and trying to disturb him. but he went on ignoring that sound just like meditator.

Meditator word i added to his saying coz that is the kind of meditation base exercise only.

Nobody would like to eveil side forces take toll on someone and give pain. nobody would like to live distorted life for any materialistic gain.

Well that all depends on what you consider the darkside. I love horror movies, with blood and gor and all which doesn't bother me. I love the dark, as it lets me ponder on liife issues. But i'm not a person who would kill someone at all. I will not harm none as it's not in my belief to do so.

I love the dark side cause I was promised COOKIES!!!

ok all jokes aside now......

I love certain things about the dark side.....Like VampireWitch39 has said I do watch Horror movies and love any form of action movies that include guts blood and gore....:D

In real life though.....i'm not sure.....Blood doesn't bother me.....but I think being dismembered or any form of things that you see in any horror movie I would scream like a little girl......

I love horror movies: I like the way my heart beats faster... but, with my curious nature, I know full well, that if say, the martian's cylinder opened up, I'd be the first on the scene and incinerated.

Horror as portrayed on the big screen is safe, the horror of man is not...

that is the safety valve it serves... I feel.

On another tack, my last three stories were written of what made a man into the character he became...

ie: what my Angelus [[the dark side]] into Angel.

It's an idea that fascinates me... as that duality of our nature can be both destructive and constructive, sometimes with a metaphorical flip of a switch...

I see more people playing in the shadows then people being "of" the darkness. People want to feel that they are bravely forging into unchartered areas, so they pride themselves as delving in Darkness. To many are wanting to intimadate others.

I was always the girl who dreamed of being a princess who lives in a castle who owns a unicorn and wears a pink dress, at the same time, at 2 years I already watched horror movies alone and never got scared, also liked Halloween even though in my country at those times it wasn't popular.

As for the real life no, I don't like the sight of blood and hates pain, therefore I'd say I like the darkside but not love it.

Many are either unable or unwillingly to explore the beauty of a graveyard. A good example is the album by Joy Division, grotesque and yet exquisitely carved in black marble...
Ian hung himself from his parents bannisters, I think he was only 23, it seems two women tore his soul up.
A shame, he was in touch with something very dark yet creative.
Oceanne the truth is most people are liars and anything really dark makes them squirm, books and films are one thing reality is another. View this young man swinging a few months after he sang this...how do you feel?

You are on spot AN.I am not going to watch that vid right now,I will when I have more bandwith.But your point isnt lost on me..thank you for the vid and for your thoughts.

As Billy said,there is a shadow side that doesnt automatically equate to evil.

TGK I have to agree with you. I think to be human, in my opinion, is to embrace a little darkness. I think the more you shy away from anything considered "dark", "bad", or "evil", the further you fall towards mentally snapping. With anything in life, you have to find the balance, and it's not easy

VERY nice video TheGreenKnight

it also depends on the context of the Movie genre......

Now like I have stated before Horror movies DON'T bother me......and here's something else I like to ask and I think this is a good place to ask it.....


Now I've watched the movie Stigmata with Patricia Arquette and I find that movie to be extremely intriguing.......I wouldn't say it is DARK at all IMHO considering its about the wounds of christ......but I do find it interesting in a DARK sort of way....any thoughts???

I really like the distinction that BillytheJust made between shadows and darkness. I think the distinction between darkness and evil is also important.

For me, I think of my attraction to the shadows and/or darkness is simply an acknowledgement and a healthy appreciation of the fact that it exists. What is more, that appreciation recognizes that, unchecked, it can quickly descend into evil.

In fact, as I was pondering my response, the Milgram experiment came to mind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment). I've thought long and hard about whether or not I'd be one of those few people who said, "No, absolutely not. I will not continue." Key detail? Even those who did refuse to continue did not intervene.

One other distinction I think is worth noting. Does darkness always equal violence?

Being somewhat of a dark person i do love the dark. It is not only due to my past but it has always just kind of been natural. i have the side that everyone sees and the side that maybe one person if that sees.

justin makes a point here.

i see darkness as obscured areas of actuality when grim measures outweigh other means, repressing ones sound mind, so is darkness madness?

i'll add that there is a difference between delving in darkness, and embracing darkness. Also anyone who claims to harness, or tame darkness is best avoided.

though Dark has become a generic trend word to some degree.

i think the darkside calls to people for
for there own reasons but i don't think
it has anything to do with the love of it.

Dabbler,

You do make a good point about how generic the term "dark" has become.

I think the original intent of this thread IMHO is about the darkness that resides in all of us, and how and why we feel attracted to it.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong

good point made....
actual DARKNESS, or just shadows?

perhaps im more of a shadow person than a true child of the darkness. too many shades of gray and even light within my soul.
but the darkness is so deliciously seductive.
~W~

Most people have no idea what true darkness and horror is, having considered this point I have a test.
If you can see a dead thing or something in pain (very often you own being) and feeling little still observe or marvel at its writhing beauty then you are probably in touch with your darkside.
Is that madness? that depends whom you ask.
As previosuly discussed~ madness is highly subjective, even amongst psychiatrists, which is why 20% of them go mad.

it is difficult for me to watch another suffer unless its consensual or they have crossed me in a deeply personal way.

hence my affinity for shadow rather than true darkness.
~W~

I love how everyone loves the darkside.....when it's Their darkside showing.
What about when the darkness is turned on you? When you're the one in chains: broken, bloody, and abandoned?
Would you still love the darkness?

Thats my point,and I would have to say I doubt it Cabrion.

Yes I do

I'm more at home with myself, I love it when the night falls.

Very true Cabrion. I suspect many of us though 'rely' on our awareness of the darkside in order to defend ourselves and/or be prepared to deal with darkness from others. A 'fight fire with fire' attitude, if you will.

people associate the dark side with "evil" and that doesnt have to be true. I love the darkside culture.

I completely agree - dark is confused with evil. There are plenty of things that are considered "dark" that I enjoy. Ghosts are considered dark, yet they are mainly not evil. I am Wiccan and alot of people consider any type of magic to be "dark" but it isn't.

Also - I would truly love to impale just one person in my yard (which is truly dark but has a good reason behind it) I live in a bad neighborhood, gangs, drugs, etc... violence all the time and I can't afford to move. So, if I impale just one jerk in my front yard all the other jerks will stop trying to jump my kids and our friends!!

As for absolute evil - now that, is truly something different. It goes beyond one having the occassional dark thought or even dark deed. Absolute evil, no compassion - yes, that would terrify anyone who has half a brain.

I Like horror Movies, and books, and even thoughts of things of such... but I do not know if I my self could handle if it was real in front of my eyes.... But I have never been in that kinda situation... So... I don't know.

I feel it all depends on the person I mean who really truly puts there all in something. In order to do that they need something to give them that extra push . I mean they need that pure will that is etched behind the feeling of I made up my mind and i'll be damed if anyone gets in my way. I feel that if someone got to that point beyond fear which is a limitation then anyone can truly give themselves to darkness.
Really thonk of the joker in the DArk knight he was a perfect example. Everyone else is like batman, they bask in the darkness to an extint.

Azriel

To be honest i love much more the bright side of life, but i love the dark romance of the vampiric tales... i love the dark melancholic music, i only like to wear dark clothes and dark face painting... but that is all visual and auditive, because in fact i hate violence of any kind... and i really hate mindless horror movies... if it has some intelligence to it, than i'll watch, i love the thrills and chills... but if it's only mindless gore and blood i wouldn't waste my time on that.

And without a doubt i would not trade heaven for hell

I like the beauty of things, not rotten stuff...

And that's the reason I love goth music and goth glamor in general

when I'm bein creative, I use that darker side, almost as a driving force.

strangely enough, I alo use it, as a descriptive tool, to decribe the human conditon.

How should I respond to this question. The horror that Books and Movies has created into the mind of humans, is to believe that the Dark side is always involved in the horror of this world. My answer, and my opinion, is no. Most of the people that I do know, and who commit major crime, are not follower of any dark side. instead, they act using their own will, and not the possession of an entity or spirit. Now, I used the word Entity and Spirit, because these two are the most common creatures of the dark. Evil only exist in the eyes of the beholder, what is for you evil, for the perpetrator is just "having fun".

The "Dark Side" sounds like a matter of perception of many things combined in one category that is for all intents and purposes taboo... Not everyone will have the same description for the "Dark Side", but I am sure we all have things we aren't willing to do because we consider it taboo, but some where deep down we would love to try it. So I am sure there are many people that can see the allure to the dark side of things.

I see two and more sides to this question, so totally agree with your remark about perception. Yet that said, I do use it: and see it, as a positive, on the whole.

NOW i understand. the 'darkside' in us is just everything we see in ourselves that we like, since we consider ourselves 'dark'.

Youre right everyone.There are several aspects to darkness..some nice,roantic and ..comforting and some...not.So.Nice.
Thank you for bringing up so many perspectives.

To answer this, I belive one must see true darkness first hand. During my time over seas I seen some things you can consider dark, but I don't believe I ever saw true evil intent like I did when I looked myself in the mirror each day I was there. I had become like darth sidious if wolf doesn't mind me using his reference. I felt so in control of people i am truly scared by the things I see(n) in my eyes. After taking anothers life your soul for lack of a better word is entirely corrupt I truly believe. So do I love the darkness? Absolutely. But at the same time it terrefies me.

useful post.

yes, perceptions.

like f'r 'mania,' read something useful, to be turned into creativiity, whilst someone else might take a pill...

or seeing a fellows dying eyes look up at you, as they fade into darkness; or perhaps, the way man treats man? perceptions... I think.

"The way man treats man" I would have to agree that that can be very dark.Evil really.

noting our news of late.. I shoulsd have said, how woman and man treats children.. that's evil, true evil.

well you dont have to love everything of darkside...im not that i very hardcore things...but i like some of it

And picking up on that thought, Angelus, what would one do if faced with an adult abusing (broadly defined) a child? At what point would one who, in touch with their darkside, act? And what would they do?

On a related note, I consider the apathy most people exhibit when faced with such a scenario to most definitely be a form of evil.

i enjoy many parts of the dark side, i dont know how much

i like the vampire life style, i do practice light and dark arts, and i adore horror movies and books and graphics, i also enjoy many pics of goth clothing

to me that is the dark side

Judas...point well met...I believe people romanticize the dark side of things too much....as though being akin to a movie or fictional novel. However, I've seen my dark side in the mirror too...as I believe many here have...when you're fighting for survival...there is no room for being a bright, freakin' ray of sunshine. You do what you gotta do and that's a fact.

I can honestly relate to that scared as hell feeling one gets when you realize how far you just went...no take backs...it's a done deal...now you have to deal with it....the dark side of our humanity is scary as Hell...and there will be no room for tears and the mewling of kittens...only the stone cold silence of the dead.

There is no black and white...there's a lot of shadows...and there is a dark side to our reality...and there's nothing romantic about it...and certainly nothing pure in the light as well...the good, the bad, and the evil coexist within us all...some of us just realize it while others remain oblivious to it....and needfully so...someone out there has to be a bright ray of freakin' sunshine...;)

I love the darkness, it is rest, solitude, quietness and reflection. The light is activity, action, clear sight and communication with others.

Do I find darkness 'mysterious'? No, not particularly - I view it as neccessary to balance light, nothing more nothing less.

How others view it, well that's their perception. It's not for me to critique.

S.

I meant to add this:

I remember many moons ago, picking up Konstantinos' book, and reading his definitions on the dark and light sides, and how it has nothing to do with 'good' and 'evil'.

I don't agree with everything he say (cos I never agree with everything anyone says lol), but it was a good starting point for hanging the concept of dark = bad - light = good.

S.

The "Darkside" or "light" is all our own way of keeping balance in the world we feel the weight of each and every action the cost of taking and giving I for one can not say if I love the Darkside or not for if you look at it as night and day, good and evil then we miss the fulcrum at which the balance is kept most of us today have never seen absolute evil or pure good and have allowed the world around us to shape the way our minds regulate them example we in America would say the eating of ones grandfather an evil but tribes men around the world may see it as a death right and a grand honor So do we really love the darker-side of life or have we just been thinking we love the abnormal with in the area we live

I would probably shit my pants if I had to deal with the blood and horror of the 'dark side' as depicted. Blood and guts make me weary, and guns make me queasy.

But, on the another note, I do like the dark side of the bedroom, the dark side of the house, and the dark side of a shady tree. :)