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We always hear about lunar and solar cycles causing an increase in abilities and the paranormal. Like how a stormy night or solar flares ionicly charge the air and give spirits more energy to feed off of. Anytime these natural moments occur you get increased activity. Vampires and werewolves are stronger are night, especially during full moons. Spells also gain more momentum during full moons or times without a moon. All of these are natural elements in gaining more power and activity. Why would a woman's menstrual cycle be any different?

A woman's body goes through many changes during this time including, mental, chemical, and physical changes. I have noticed that during my womanly cycle, my psychic abilities sky rocket, and leave me more drained than during normal times. I am also more spiritually aware, more acurate on readings, and feel more open minded.

Am I the only person who has thought or noticed this? What are your thoughts and beliefs on this?




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Honestly, when I'm menstruating, any intuition or anything else I had goes right out the window, not to be seen until it's all over.



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Not sure about the average Joe psychic but in the case of vampiric souls who are psi, our abilities come from the bodies energy centers. Mostly the Third Eye or the Crown Chakra depending on your preference in terminology.
As the soul / consciousness is only one part in a system that makes up what is you any mental, physical or emotion change has the potential to strain those energy centers. This would of course include feminine fertility cycles... Whether this strain causes a focusing effect and heightens any given ability or deadens it really depends on the individual.



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That is a good way to look at it Severus. I have talked abou this with several female psychic friends recently, and they have noticed an accumalation (sometimes lack of) increase in abilities. But mainly an increase. I think it is a subject to be studied more.



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Well as a PSI or Psionic Vampire I understand a think or two about energies and what I can tell you from my own knowledge is that your body constantly works with and is itself energy, it absorbs energy and displaces it's own every minute of every day.

Now I know that most people don't tent to think of themselves as energy but you are and so is everything else around you. Everyone knows that for every physical action there is a equally positive or negative reaction.
"This is true for all forces and types of energy - It Is Not Just Metaphorically True It Is Actually True."

Just as sound vibrations travel though any give space from one object to another, their energy patterns carry with it a frequency that resonates... that is an energy wave.
Most people are aware of this concept in the form of sound. Music is a great example of how this energy can resonate at a level that effects us on a personal level and causes changes in our own energy. Music can cause us to be happy or sad, feel loved or become pissed off simply by the manner that this energy pattern resonates within us.
Art is a physical manifestation of a visual vibration that can be pleasing or disturbing. Again most people don't tent to think of art or architecture as a vibration but it is.

Every action you make also has a similar reaction... we can send out vibrations too but the energy is in the form of thoughts and emotions. What you think and feel can and does send out vibrations that resonate with the world you inhabit.
Animals can sense sickness and death just as easily as they can feel anger and sadness. We call this a sixth sense or in people a physic ability called empathy but it is just a basic, if not subconscious understanding of energy vibrations. Just as animal can sense storms and earthquakes we can to, we call it precognition but again just energy passing from one thing to another.
I'm not sure why people always insist that lower life forms can sense and feel energies unseen but we some how can't.
The truth is that you have the ability to effect everything around you in this way... just because you don't personally perceive it, see it occurring does not me that you're not doing it. The fact is you most people aren't evenly consciously aware that they are broadcasting energy 90% of the time.

Ever psionic vampire you talk to and every mundane physic who can read auras can tell you this. They may not come right out and tell you but they are aware of it at some level.



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My abilities tend to weaken during this time, I believe it is because I am exhausted during my cycle.



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I *think* I've heard of some traditions that claimed a woman or female shaman etc would have increased "powers" during her cycle, especially psychic, but I can't think of any cultures specifically.

From a scientific perspective I don't really see how or why it should affect anything but honestly I've never sat down and thought about it.

An interesting question though.



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Glad to see some men commenting on Menstruation cycles, I suppose they could be on the receiving end of it. I think women often feel quite insular during this time and therefore abilities would be lessoned, although hormones can do all sorts of things to your body. I am personally awaiting the menopause hoping I will become a wise old thing with infinite wisdom!



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Personally,I havent had mensus affect any "abilities".

Sev,great post,but I must touch on the animal aspect as this is what I have done my entire life...work with them.

"Animals can sense sickness and death just as easily as they can feel anger and sadness."

Animals can sense death by smell and the feel of the heartrate.Also by a person's or another animal's posture and demeanor.It isnt simply a feel of vibration or the sensing of energies.


" We call this a sixth sense or in people a physic ability called empathy but it is just a basic, if not subconscious understanding of energy vibrations."


An animal's language is different from ours.Even the actual position of a person (WHERE you position yourself)speaks to them.An eye cast down or a direct look..a nod of the head,a breath a a critical moment.THESE are part of what make up the so called "sixth sense".

It has not much to do,if anything with precognotion.


"Just as animal can sense storms and earthquakes we can to, we call it precognition but again just energy passing from one thing to another."

Again..this is not metaphysical or paranormal.Animals sense storms by fluctuations in barometric pressure as well as feel infrasound caused by the storm.Animals can smell ozone as well as hearing/detecting frequencies
from the storms which are normally are 13hz.




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Oceanne, That actually was my point. None of it is really supernatural... metaphysical is just energy exchange. Yes some of what animals do can be ascribed to their ability to read body language or a body posture, but what I am talking about are the energies and senses that animals except and we dismiss.
Death and sickness have no smell, no sound which can be perceived. It is the emotion energy that the host is broadcasting outward that the animal picks up on.

We all have these abilities and most of us have stories to match them. We all have a story where we walk into a bathroom that is empty and we suddenly feel like someone is there... and there is someone there.
We all have stories of a gut feeling that tells us not to get on that plane or go for that car ride. As a result we are spared the tragedy that happens next.
We all sense these energies... some just choose to dismiss it.



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I wouldn't say we dismiss the energies at all merely we lack the conscious ability to recognize them unless we work at it and even then there *are* limits to what a person can do.

However, as for precognition, I do think there is a real form of it that has nothing to do with picking up tiny signs. Modern science tells us that the future can actually inform the present and so I would think that limited scale "future knowing" is real. Like knowing what song is going to play on the radio a few seconds prior, or knowing who is calling you without seeing the phone.



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Hmmm...
According to my mom, her psychic abilities were at their strongest right before she hit puberty...
And wouldn't it be safe to say that old women - who no longer have mestruation cycles - have stronger psychic abilites as they no longer lose any of their 'wise blood'? Just a thought...



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Hey Isis,thats an interesting point..and even fits into the whole old hag and her magics.

I whole heartedly agree with you Zav,because it happens to me almost daily,and many times several times a day .But t has never seemed to correspond with my mensus.

Sev"Oceanne, That actually was my point. None of it is really supernatural... metaphysical is just energy exchanged"


Ok,I 'll consider that definition for now Sav,it sounds like a good way to describe it.

But as far as an animal not smelling iminate death and sickness...dont fool yourself.Death has a smell ,and they smell it without doubt.So does sickness.Death also has its sounds..one being the death rattle.I have personally done many studies and experiments on this, and I will tell you,the findings are undeniable..Just as the cat's purr and its relation to healing bone and ailments is.
As we die,chemical,and other changes in our bodies eminate from the "host as you put it,and the animals smell it .They also detect disease by scent...It is one of my biggest diagnostic tools when accessing injuries or other conditions of the animals under my care.I can often smell a horse or animal dying too.So,we dont always dismiss this "6th sense," We are keyed into it more than we realize.We just need to recognise it for what it is.Because it is these type of "signs" which are the biggest components of an animal"s 6th sense to begin with.Fact is, it is more of this type of detection, as opposed to emotion, that enables animals to predict death etc..
The emotional "exchange" you speak of comes in mostly if an animal or person is in distress of somekind, and the animal picks up more on the manner of which the animal is behaving due to pain and fright .There is much more to it,where and how the empathy comes into play,but I need to stay with the topic.
They also smell women, who are in their time, and it can cause some pretty serious behaviour problems in the horse,just to name one animal.Ive known many people who had attributed this behaviour as a reaction to the woman handler being "emotional" or PMSing .But the reality is not the "emotional exchange" which causes the problem ,its plain old scent.I am not saying that animals dont pick up on emothons,because they surely do,there is no doubt we entrain empathetically with them.But they are as empathetic as humans pretty much.
It isnt unusual and it happens to most of us all the time with our pets.But it isnt how they initially detect death. It is scent.
And detection of the heartrate.

Sev"Yes some of what animals do can be ascribed to their ability to read body language or a body posture, but what I am talking about are the energies and senses that animals except and we dismiss. "

Some? Thats ia a MAJOR understatement.And I do mean major, Sev.I have written 1500 pages of manuscript attributed to this very subject,including 250 photographs .This from 50 years of hands on research, experiment ,interaction and observation on almost a day to day basis,if you would ever be interested in reading it,I will send you a copy at the appropiate time..It has taken me 24 years to date, to write about it

So dont take the body language thing lightly.This is how they communicate.Body posture and position being two of the most important .Where they position their bodies in relation to one another ,as well as the angle in which they turn or face while in that position.Even certain types of breathing and the timing in which it is placed ..or a yawn.MAJOR part of animal language.


Sev "Death and sickness have no smell, no sound which can be perceived. It is the emotion energy that the host is broadcasting outward that the animal picks up on."

I ,disagree with that statement and have explained in part why and can demonstrate it.Key words? "That can be percieved" I add, "by us" Their sense of smell and hearing are far beyond our capabilities.
The empathy comes into play differently with animals than it does with humans in many aspects too.People get hurt and killed all the time due to their attributing human thinking to animal body language and from misinterpreting the "emotional exchange".


Sev "We all have these abilities and most of us have stories to match them. We all have a story where we walk into a bathroom that is empty and we suddenly feel like someone is there... and there is someone there.
We all have stories of a gut feeling that tells us not to get on that plane or go for that car ride. As a result we are spared the tragedy that happens next.
We all sense these energies... some just choose to dismiss it."

Absolutley we do have these abilities.Many of us recognise and accept that.Even use it to our benefit.I think that more and more people are becoming aware of this,and have
begun in ernest to research this very phenomenon.Im glad too.


Hey Isis,thats an interesting point..and even fits into the whole old hag and her magics.

I whole heartedly agree with you Zav,because it happens to me almost daily,and many times several times a day .But t has never seemed to correspond with my mensus.

Sev"Oceanne, That actually was my point. None of it is really supernatural... metaphysical is just energy exchanged"


Ok,I 'll consider that definition for now Sav,it sounds like a good way to describe it.

But as far as an animal not smelling iminate death and sickness...dont fool yourself.Death has a smell ,and they smell it without doubt.So does sickness.Death also has its sounds..one being the death rattle.I have personally done many studies and experiments on this, and I will tell you,the findings are undeniable..Just as the cat's purr and its relation to healing bone and ailments is.
As we die,chemical,and other changes in our bodies eminate from the "host as you put it,and the animals smell it .They also detect disease by scent...It is one of my biggest diagnostic tools when accessing injuries or other conditions of the animals under my care.I can often smell a horse or animal dying too.So,we dont always dismiss this "6th sense," We are keyed into it more than we realize.We just need to recognise it for what it is.Because it is these type of "signs" which are the biggest components of an animal"s 6th sense to begin with.Fact is, it is more of this type of detection, as opposed to emotion, that enables animals to predict death etc..
The emotional "exchange" you speak of comes in mostly if an animal or person is in distress of somekind, and the animal picks up more on the manner of which the animal is behaving due to pain and fright .There is much more to it,where and how the empathy comes into play,but I need to stay with the topic.
They also smell women, who are in their time, and it can cause some pretty serious behaviour problems in the horse,just to name one animal.Ive known many people who had attributed this behaviour as a reaction to the woman handler being "emotional" or PMSing .But the reality is not the "emotional exchange" which causes the problem ,its plain old scent.I am not saying that animals dont pick up on emothons,because they surely do,there is no doubt we entrain empathetically with them.But they are as empathetic as humans pretty much.
It isnt unusual and it happens to most of us all the time with our pets.But it isnt how they initially detect death. It is scent.
And detection of the heartrate.

Sev"Yes some of what animals do can be ascribed to their ability to read body language or a body posture, but what I am talking about are the energies and senses that animals except and we dismiss. "

Some? Thats ia a MAJOR understatement.And I do mean major, Sev.I have written 1500 pages of manuscript attributed to this very subject,including 250 photographs .This from 50 years of hands on research, experiment ,interaction and observation on almost a day to day basis,if you would ever be interested in reading it,I will send you a copy at the appropiate time..It has taken me 24 years to date, to write about it

So dont take the body language thing lightly.This is how they communicate.Body posture and position being two of the most important .Where they position their bodies in relation to one another ,as well as the angle in which they turn or face while in that position.Even certain types of breathing and the timing in which it is placed ..or a yawn.MAJOR part of animal language.


Sev "Death and sickness have no smell, no sound which can be perceived. It is the emotion energy that the host is broadcasting outward that the animal picks up on."

I ,disagree with that statement and have explained in part why and can demonstrate it.Key words? "That can be percieved" I add, "by us" Their sense of smell and hearing are far beyond our capabilities.
The empathy comes into play differently with animals than it does with humans in many aspects too.People get hurt and killed all the time due to their attributing human thinking to animal body language and from misinterpreting the "emotional exchange".


"Sev We all have these abilities and most of us have stories to match them. We all have a story where we walk into a bathroom that is empty and we suddenly feel like someone is there... and there is someone there.
We all have stories of a gut feeling that tells us not to get on that plane or go for that car ride. As a result we are spared the tragedy that happens next.
We all sense these energies... some just choose to dismiss it."

Absolutley we do have these abilities.However,I think that more and more people are becoming aware of this,and have
begun in ernest to research this very phenomenon.Im glad too.
















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I love how this thread blossomed. ^.^

I thought it would die quickly. -.-

But it didn't. ^.^

LOL

Anyways....I was just using vamps and weres as a referrence. I am a strong believer that everything is connected on physical, metaphysical, and higher levels of existence.

Thats not the point though. I wonder how this could be studied further. Possibly do a group study?



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Don't believe we should have a group of women on their cycles testing a damn thing. At least not anywhere near me. O.o

Since menstruation cycles are pretty much considered to be "cleansing," I don't see why any so called "powers" would be increased. It's pretty much physical from what I see from my vantage point.

Although, some Native American tribes here realized that women had this cleansing period, yet, men did not. So Sweat Lodges were created for men. I did a few and there were visions reported within during these experiences from some people.

So it maybe possible that it's not directly responsible but indirectly.



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All my life I've been surroundes by woman and what I was always told was that Real women don’t have hot flashes, they have power surges.

But then again I was also told that all men are idiots, and that I was their King. My mother always called me a royal pain, so I never questioned my stature... But as I get older I'm starting to think something isn't right here.



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Severus -
You are actually following a path that is older than time. The Female principle is in order, especially The Mother. Don't question her - lol!



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I see, so men should just trust everything a woman says??
Doesn't sound very King like. lol

Well thankfully I didn't have to because the one man in my life lead me to the same ideology... If I wasn't Royalty then why was my father always on the thrown??

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I become hypersensitive to everything when I'm on my cycle. Sometimes a touch can be unbearable. I get super hot in 50 degree weather. I smell better, hear better... I have to eat bland food because anything with spices makes my mouth feel like it's going to explode... I hate it really. Migraines are a pain when I'm exposed to any light for too long and I could almost swear I could hear a tick fart from a mile away. It's ridiculous. I'm actually jealous of the women who shut off during their cycles and don't get all that.



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The moon phases affect Lycanthropes because scientifically there are changes in the air ... erm ... i don't know how to explain ... but I'm going to try ... lol (sorry English is not my first language) ...

there is some change in the air ... which alters the hormones ... not only lycanthropes but all humans. The intensity of the hormonal change is the biggest part.

Some don't feel a thing. Some feel everything ... It depends on individual hormones.

For me ... whether its a important moon phase or just a menstrual cycle ... I go through horrible episodes of rage.

I know of friends ... who have different effects .... some have sexual urges ... some just eat non stop ....



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Perhaps it is changes in barometric pressures that affect you Fever?

I know right now,and for the past few weeks,Ive been on a roll to the point to where I am spooking my employer and friends.Im not in my cycle at all and the moon doesnt seem to have an affect either..




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barometric pressures as in environment air pressure?

Might be ... that is actually a good point ... :) something to read up on.



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I know it affects animal behaviour in a big way,as it does many humans.
Also,other things to look at would be infrasoud and other energies ,such as energies created by tectonic movement etc..



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Menstrual blood is a very powerful magickal tool as well.



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Something I was thinking about are the old,scary magical hags who live aone out in the woods and who are powerful.

Key here? Im pretty sure they have gone through menopause and no longer have the cycle.
Yet,they are more powerful than ever...supposedly.



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Good point, Oceanne and MasterMel... Ew.. Just ew. I can barely stand being in my own body during my time. There's no way I'd ever use the blood as a magical tool. *shudders*



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Oceanne,

Old hags who live in the woods. lol

Now there is an image I have not seen in a long, Long time. Let me tell you, there are very few things in life which can conjure up the rumblings of inner fear like a good old fashion Apostate.



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LOL right? But seriously Sev,you know how the the old tales go. The powerful old witch who can "help someone " at a "price" of course.

The old sea hags,the old hag witch who live alone on a island etc... Myth and legend is full of them.



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I mentioned the likely powers of the hag in an earlier post. It would seem that they would have more magical power than those younger women who have monthly cycles, as they retain what is coined 'wise blood'.
Blood is suppose to have magical properties (a belief held in many cultures), and women - older ones in particular - are often labeled as hags/witches, becaused of their supposed link to that blood power.



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Oh absolutly!!

You"re both very correct, and those tales are there for a reason... People really did believe in them and some still do. There are just as many if not more tales of the old witch.
As for the belief that blood holds magical powers and folklore, Almost all faiths and societies have some kind of blood ritual. It is one of those universa world wide inigmas. In fact most Catholics don't like to mention the blood rituals they did, but the entire Roman Catholic idealogy is rooted in the Idea. The giving of a sacrificial lambs blood to the Ark of the Covenant, A.K.A the Seat of Atonement for ones sins. (Leviticus chapter 16)

The sacrific of Jesus Christ upon the cross forgave all of mans sins from there on and the ritual of scarific for the right of forgivness was abandond.
If you look deep enough every culture or regional history has some rite which involved blood and some still do.
Blood holds energy and energy is power.



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In fact the idea of the Witch ( one who consorts with the devil), blood sacrifice, and forgiveness are intimately tied to each other in this way. Burning a sacrifice was the every day way to ask for forgiveness, blood was only done once a year on Yom Kippur.

Yahweh had promised in Exodus 20:24 that "He would come down to Israel at the moment of sacrifice at the bronze Altar of Burnt Offerings in the courtyard of the Tabernacle/Temple and would, in the cloud of smoke that rose from the burning sacrificial victim, receive the offerings of the Covenant people both individually and collectively and recompense them by His blessings."

This Bunt offering ritual was the very reason witches were burned at the stake for being an Apostate. It is also the reason why even today at the end of a Catholic mass the priest exits by bathing the parishioners in a cloud of smoke... so you can leave the house of God free of sin.



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So, those psychic abilities are or can be religious in nature, as it relates to blood.



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Historically Yes and No.

No, in the respect that most blood rituals in general are about appeasement of the supernatural.
Yes, because pyschic abilities in general would have been seen as un-natural, and thus supernatural by default.

Depending on the culture, the age, and the superstitions of the people involved this could have been seen as a gift from God, or a curse of demonic deeds.



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You sure did Isis,but I did not know about the whole wise blood thing.I often wondered about the powerful old hag thing.

As far as sacrifce,I have also wondered about that and its purpose as well ,especially in a religion where it says thal shalt not kill.So,on both points ..Thanks for the explainations.Id love to hear more!!

Interesting that a blood sacrifice would /could elicit forgiveness...



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As one's blood - life - is considered one's most valuable asset, the sacrifice really means something.
(One's own blood, child, 'clean' animal, etc)
If you're in dire straights - like failed crops due to lack of rain, war, etc) you give up something precious to the god(s) to get what you want/need, therefore blood/life.
And since blood is valuable and sacred, it would stand to reason that it also has magical properties.

A few more cents from me anyway - lol.



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Excellent sense, too!Thank you for your enlightening posts.:D

With all that said ,how is the old hag more powerful when shes beyond her repoduction years?
Is the witch in mensus less powerfull?



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Witches are historically seen as people who not just forsake their religion but went one step farther and actually excepted the worship of the devil. They agreed to be the concubine of the Dark Lord and after having had sexual relations were granted evil powers over man. The idea of the old hag is a witch so old and so twisted from having been without the will of God that they lack any redeeming moral value... even beauty.
Witches, Vampires... in specific the Incubus and Succubus, and demons all had the common tie of Sleep Paralysis.
The ability to use psychic powers to prevent someone from moving was also a world wide phenomenon.
Many people that experience sleep paralysis are struck with a deep sense of terror because they sense a menacing presence in the room while they are paralyzed. Sensing a malignant presence in the room during an episode of sleep paralysis is believed by science to be the result of a hyper vigilant state that is created in the midbrain.
This sensation is now commonly associated alien abduction and not vampires or witches.


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Anything can be religious in nature if a person or group of people decide to incorporate it into their religious practices.

Blood has always held a special place in mysticism and it is closely connected with power and life, creation and death.

There's nothing special or secret that blood plays a very important role in Christianity and Judaism.

If blood contains the essence of a person then the blood of a higher being -on behalf of humanity- would have great importance and the ability to remove the need for blood sacrifices...which I see as a very positive thing lol.



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Hay Zav.

Sev,
Are you saing that Atonia is not a bio mechanical glitch of the safy mechanism during transition into and out of REM,but are actually witches and demons at work in the physical realm?



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No, I was say that historicly witches and vampires were blamed for the event, Just as many people today blame aliens for the same thing.



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I do agree with that Sev ,because it has certainly been true .Even today,where people dont understand what Atonia is,they believe they are seeing ghosts and other spooky creatures.



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