i've made a personal observation that people tend to "act" like they want genuine answers to their posts when they are really just looking for pity and the answers that only they want to hear.
tell me what YOU think...be brutal..be "real"
*these opinions sre mine and mine alone..if you take offense please look within yourself for the answer to to troubles lie within you
Yes I know what u mean and I understand.
Ppl often tend to be like that....
*duct tapes tarquin to a chair and gags him* lying is bad...kinda like heroin...you do it a few times and your hooked
There's nothing wrong with honesty. I DO prefer a harsh truth to a pittyful lie. Might not be pleasent, but at least I know what I can count on.
I prefer to give honest answers and opinions.. Lying in a negative thing.. And yes I am very honest about things and the what I say,,,
I may be harsh but hey the truths hurts.. People need to deal with it..
"ever tried to go a week with rationalizing? you go without sex easier-try going a whole week without a good rationalization, you'll see what I mean" Jeff Goldblum, "The Big Chill" People often ask me my opinion, and I am quick to tell them if they don't want the god's honest unvarnished truth, don't ask me- I am too old to bullshit and too young to give a shit
It's definitely better to tell the truth, a liar can't be trusted and besides... you know when people lie, it tends to come out eventually. It's better to be honest from the beginning, even though it might hurt.
Most people don't truly listen, they just wait for their turn to speak.
I prefer to get a straight answer from people, an honest opinion...
I try my best to give honest answers so I want people to do the same for me!
It may hurt but at least you know where you stand.
Like in the movie The Devil's Advocate
Quote,, * You want the truth? You can't handle the truth*
And W/ that I don't really care if the truth hurts someone.. Better then a lie.
I consider myself to be an extermely honest person. If I don't like you, I'll either let you know, or I'll ignore you, depending on the situation.(thats just an example) I prefer to have ppl be honest with me. It saves a lot of time and a lot of bullshit. My husband is a liar. Thats one of the many reasons I left him.
I'm honest always,pity that sometimes am misunderstood.
I'd rather hurt someone honestyly then decieve them with a lie
The nice thing about being online is that we are all somewhat anonymous; I find it easier to be honest and truthful, as I really do not have anything to hide.
But there are people who use the Internet as a mask, in order to pretend to be something or someone they are not. It is a virtual form of escapism. As readers, we have to be able to discern what is real and what is BS.
Obviously, there are people here who choose to view the world a little differently; however, is that not why most of us are here? For the most part we find people interested in much of the same things we are interested in. Some have a different take on reality then the rest of us, which makes us unique and VR interesting.
I agree,,
But I never pretend I am something I am not.. I am who I am on here and in person. I will tell people how it is and where to go online and in person. If I like them and if i dont.
Truth-A lie not fully formed.
Lie- The truth that we are comfortable with.
I think the whole truth lie thing depends on who your speaking to. Some can handle the truth and others can not, just need somone to offer comforting words.
Hmm comforting words.. Well I don't sugar coat things. They get the whole hurtful truth from me.
since this is relevant to the topic I am going to say it, if ever I make a post, be mean, tell me what I NEED to hear not what I WANT to hear. We should all be old enough here to understand that if we ask for advice we may not get what we want, but we will always get what we NEED
Straitjacket, for the most part I agree with you. I do believe that everyone who has posted in this thread is an adult and we're all muture enough to handle the truth. But please don't forget about all of the children on here when you make such generalized statements...I think we're being overrun with teeny boppers! *runs and hides*
Everytime I have ever lied to spare someone it has come back to bite me. Truth is at least honest.
I'm a mother of 2. One of which happens to be a teen who also belongs to this site. Hence the running and hiding!
I am constantly innundated with teens and how they all think they are adults and they know whats best and blah blah blah! I'm too old for this shit!
i want people to b honest with me and ill b honest with them :)
I think that it's not anyone being honest but that most think they have all the answers and if you say something different from what they think is so they don't take it well . I've noticed that alot of people ask things that they feel they already have the answer for and is just wanting to be proven right to themselves by what others say. on lieing most don't want to be lied to but want to lie to others without anything being said about it
Being truthful is nice, but lets get real here, everyone lies. Some people lie all the damn time. It's just a part of life. Sometimes the truth hurts so it's easier to sugar coat it.
Sometimes you have to lie to spare someone's feelings. Everyone says honesty is the best policy, thats not always true, most people cannot even be true to themselves, why would I expect them to be truthful to me?
i've been lied to to many times..and so i really would like for people to start telling me the truth about things....
Very true,, we all tend to tell lies.. And well Maybe when I was little I told white lies, Now I am grown up. Well I wouldnt think of doing such a thing,, And to spare someones feelings by telling them a lie.. Not in my book You get the whole brutal truth.. And if the person doesnt like it,, So be it..
I enjoy being told the truth.... I hate it when people like to play games and never gets to the point... Just be blunt! Sometimes the truth hurts.... you will cry and then get over it.
I agree with Lilith, lies can hurt far worse then the truth. Being blunt can be a shock, and it may hurt, but it is favorable over a lie anytime.
Lies can go on for years. When the truth comes to the surface, the lie may have done more damage then simply telling the truth to begin with.
I hate being lied to. Maore then anything, lying pisses me off. Correct Ms. Diamond?
I agree with you..they tend to seek attantion which really sucks...
i dont know what people want for their answers, and i really dont care. i just say whatever i feel like. sometimes it will be a bullshit thing like "i dont know", but sometimes i will say what is on my mind and what i actually feel about the topic.
i tell what I think, nothing more nothing less. if they can't handle that, that's their problem
Since most of us will read posts in what we view as that person's voice, yet if we were in the same rooom with that person- we wouldn't even recognize them by their words, since the inflections and body language is then added to what they are saying.
So - conflict, sugar coating, and wanting acceptance can change depending on who's reading the post, even if in fact that person is in their own way trying to communicate an honest opinion.
Without face to face, we can read what we want and make of it what we will.
Since most of us will read posts in what we view as that person's voice, yet if we were in the same rooom with that person- we wouldn't even recognize them by their words, since the inflections and body language is then added to what they are saying.
So - conflict, sugar coating, and wanting acceptance can change depending on who's reading the post, even if in fact that person is in their own way trying to communicate an honest opinion.
Without face to face, we can read what we want and make of it what we will.
I prefer to be honest and have those I trust be honest with me even if it stings.. although I will admit that at times I would like to be lied to.
hmmm as to truth
yes I want the fucking truth.....largely because I like knowing who has the balls to stand up to the sharp razor of wit I will turn on those who try to bullshit me and get caught....
but yes we all lie....
the trick is in catching yourself at it and actively stopping....easier said than done of course...but all the positive things are
im sure there r ppl like that out there. i personally always give true and honest answers
the trouble with telling the truth also is determined by the person listening to what we're saying... even as we tell someone what's really in our minds, they will often think of it as "she's only saying that cause she's got her period" or "he's just saying that since he's got laid off work"
when we "communicate," it is still a process of trying out best to express what is really inside our minds whether it be truth or fiction... if the other one isn't even listening or giving full attention, the message gets garbled in the process... believe me, I'm a mother... try laying down ground rules/punishments to a budding teen.. ever notice you keep telling it over and over and over and over??? *LOL*
I only tell the truth to those I love. Everybody else can bugger off.
even if you tell someone the honest truth, or give your advice to, what guarantee do we have that they either listen or heed? none whatsoever-and most people ask for the truth only to have someone sing their praises...but for all you who ask, I will always tell you the truth
why would people post items if they did not want to hear the truth? that is why people ask questions to hear the truth.
as some people have said, not all can handle the truth... *sigh*
most of us would want the truth to be told to us... but when it comes to "truths" like "do you think I'm fat?" or "do you think I'm a b---h?" or "am I great in bed?" *LOL* most of us tend to want to hear the "truth" coated with sugar...
My motto
Tell me the truth no matter how bad it hurts.
Truth is better than lies even the little white ones to spare feelings.
If you don't want the truth, please, don't ask me because you will only get the truth from me.
when i first started on here i used to be brutally honest but got told i have no tact a skill i desire by the way but yeah im here to enjoy not down grade belittle or hurt anyone unless i bite you but yeah i do all that in the real world that way if someone has a problem with it its dealt with i dont care
I have noticed how many provocative posts are made by people who then don't bother responding in any meaningful to the posts in said thread...
Excuse me but I do respond to meaningful threads.. The ones that interest me..
Stabb666 I know what you mean and I so agree!
This is the worst when someone post something absolutely stupid or meaningless...and then he even doesnt bother to respond on his own thread...or other way...
sorry Angitia...I mean creating a thread that is sure to annoy someone specific and then letting it run...
I always TRY to tell the truth,but as a flawed Human there are times where i have said things i wish i had not...as Daermon said the trick is to catch yourself in time and stop yourself from lying.I am honest enough to admit this...I in turn do hope that those i come into contact with via messenger,chat or the forums TRY and tell me the truth at the very least,regardless of whether it is favorable or non-favorable to me...
i dont like for anyone to lie to me i am a honest person if you cannot be honest dont talk to me and thats just who i am
well stabb...it seems that everytime i tell someone MY HONEST OPINIONS....hmmm..they tend to not be able to handle it..like yourself. im not insulting you. im just stating a fact. i know im a prick. everyone should know that by now. but when i post a thread i truly just wanna read what people have to say...kinda like my wanting to know what kinda people are out there and who i'd be prone to trying to befriend.i hope this comment makes you feel better as im sure you didnt post on MY thread because you LIKE me. now thats a fact..not an opinion.
You asked for people to be 'real' in their opinion...I am doing so in the hope that you will realise your own truth.
Several, including yourself, seem to take the position of 'shit stirring' by making almost exclusively aggressively focused and targeted posts which you must be well aware will only serve to provoke a negative energy reaction.
For someone that claims to be a 'wiccan', I find this reasoning curious.
this was the email i was going to send you..you know,to keep the "shit stirring" out of the posts..but you blocked me..so here is my personal message to you.
my apologies to any administrators that feel im instigating in my thread
well stabb...it seems that everytime i tell someone MY HONEST OPINIONS....hmmm..they tend to not be able to handle it..like yourself. im not insulting you. im just stating a fact. i know im a prick. everyone should know that by now. but when i post a thread i truly just wanna read what people have to say...kinda like my wanting to know what kinda people are out there and who i'd be prone to trying to befriend.i hope this comment makes you feel better as im sure you didnt post on MY thread because you LIKE me. now thats a fact..not an opinion.
that was my post..i just wanted to make sure you got my response..so if you want to cry to an administrator be my guest;.I am one of the most honest and forthcoming people you will EVER know..if you can get over the hump of taking peoples OPINIONS too seriously..especially here.i say what i mean and mean what i say..provacative or not,ill speak my mind.and thats how will always be.so next time ...if you gay something slick to say..and if its my thread...speak your piece bro..i like a good argument and if by some chance you can sway my opinion then kudos to you. next time be a man and confront my thread like i would give you the courtesy of. see...i tell people to their face...not a side conversation.i hope this gives you a little insight as to what kinda peron i am
lucios from what i read of what you have wrote all your honest opinions are so rude you can have an honest opinion but be nice about it..if you was a true wiccan you would understand what i am saying...
i mean really stabb..if you dont like whats on tv,you change the channel right? you knew i posted this thread.you blocked me from messaging you and yet you post on my thread. now thats what i would call childish..and thats coming from someone that knows he can bve immature
Sometimes the truth hurts, but if you want it sugar coated, then you should look else where.
Honest is a valuable trait and is lacking in so many people. That was not meant to offend anyone, but is the absolute truth.
I have little interest in dealing with abusive intolerance.
My apologies for interrupting your thread.
Goodbye.
*looks ar cryption*
im sorry if my demeanor is offputting...i am a rude person...and for people like you im sorry if you find it offensive but thats just how i am. like i said..i am a prick..lol.i know this but i really am a funny,intelligent,and compassionate person if ya get to know me.if you cant get past me being devious and rude...well...my loss i guess
if you are so intellegent my dear then wouldnt you hve better things to do as to argue and look like a fool
Well you shouldn't ask if you don't want the truth. Or that was what I was taught as a child. Also, telling half truths is not good for any type of relationship, be it friend, lover, brother, sister, etc.
Once you loose trust in the truth, what else is left?
no cryption i dont...and im sorry..have i insulted you in some way? if i look foolish then so be it.im enjoying myself.so if you choose to insult me..be my guest..give me your honest TRUTH about me. you know me so well.
i am not trying to insult you in no matter i am giving my honest opinion as you have asked of me.....my honest opinion about you well i cannot give that as i do not know you..lol you remind me of me and that is intersting in my eyes i do apologize for any inconveinence that you may see
at least your are being civil.some people cant even muster that much. now..if you would permit me..may i give you my HONEST poinion about you.
raven i totally agree with that....i have lost trust in everyone and everything..maybe i am to quick to judge
That has happened to almost everyone at least once. But seeing threads like this, makes me think there is hope for the honest ones to make a come back.
I do think that people need to draw the line between giving an honest opinion, and just being ugly and nasty-some people around here can't seem to tell the difference-there's a difference between giving your opinion on a subject, and treating someone like they are an idiot for voicing theirs
i like you.you know how to slip an insult to someone and make it seem innocent.and thats a good thing.i also get this feelong that your the type of friend who will take up arms for their friends without even knowing what its about.thats just my take
yes i would love your honest opinion abot me so as if there is something i ned to change i will
and yw raven
to everyone that has posted her..thank you for showing me who's who.
*looks cryption dead in the eye*
you NEVER change for ANYONE..I MEAN ANYONE..if they cannot accept you for you...then fuck them..fuck them all
Yes there is a difference in being honest and being rude, but sometimes, it is hard to be honest without being somewhat rude. But opinions vary from person to person.
yes i do take my friendship to heart and i will stick up for them untill i find out what the prolem is and if it is in my friend then i will take it up with them friendship is not a wasted time
i appologize for lagging on my part ive benn having problems with this site for a few days
Fuck it!! I say we all hate and kill each other...whats the point in being evil...if your fuckin friendly?...thats absurd. Tell it like it is...and if you hurt someone measure the pain and try to do better next time....
And yes..I dont have any friends and I prefer it that way..I rather be alone then have a hundred people annoy the fuck out of me...
lol well thats one way to be about everything no friends no drama
nice
Life is full of drama, it just depends on how you react to it that makes a difference.
I can too. But you can't run or hide from drama, it finds you no matter what.
But to get back to the topic.
If I ever ask a question, I do want to hear the honest truth. No matter what the question and no matter how bad I don't like the answer. The truth is all I seek.
the truth is all anyone needs no need to lie about anything what is the truth if you lie?
What is the truth and what is a lie anyways? Most everything on here is either based on opinion or proven fact....How can an opinion be a lie? Now when voiceing your opinion one has to wonder exactly how you should voice it there is a right way and a wrong way to voice those lovely thoughts in your mind. I don't sugar coat things I tell it like it is but I'm not a bitch about it nor do I belittle people for what they think, or call them out and try to make them feel like an ass for there thoughts. I think that is a correct way to go about things It's all a matter of tact really if you have it you have it if you dont you dont one way or another who really gives a shit everyone is intitled to their own opinions and not everyone is going to agree so just agree to disagress it is a really simple concept.
But the thread didn't ask about an opinion. It asked if YOU really wanted to hear the truth.
I personally would rather have the truth to a lie.
agrees with raven once again...truth is better to seek than to run from a lie
Ahhhh but sometimes the truth is just your own personal opinion thats what I'm getting at. You ask for advise about something or you ask for someones thoughts on a certain topic its all based on opinion....what you would do or what you think about that topic...there is no solid answer and the opinions will differ because there is no right answer to the question....the post on here are going to be the what do you think posts....not the solid concret questions like what is 2+2 thats simple the answer is 4 no one can really argue that point unless they want to just for the soul sake to argue.
i must agree with u as well...but in an opinion you coud also lie why would someone lie to give there opinion..just be honest
I personally see no point to lie about an opinion you have, and if you do lie about that opinion you have no backbone and you just want to go with the flow and you are just another sheep in the heard following. I have no respect for people like that, common we are all indivduals here no two people are the same so how can you really fit in by lieing about an opinion you have?
Darkslave that is a very thought out response and one that I can whole heartedly agree with.
I for one will only respond to a post if I actually have something to contribute. And in all cases, my answeres are given in all honesty, no sugar coating here.
It may be a bitter pill to swallow, but if you don't like the answers, the why pose the question in the first place...
If you want sympathy, I think Dr. Phil would be a better option for you.
I agree Twist, I do tell it like it is and never sugar coat things. The person that doesnt want to hear what I have to say.. Well to freakin bad suck it up and deal w/ it.
Exactly... You may hate me now, but at least you'll respect me in the morning... ;-)
You know something I dont care if the person hates me . No skin off my back and I will not lose sleep over it.
i ahve learned that sometimes it is better to be hated than loved
I rathered be hated,, Then I dont have to deal w/ whiny people and their dumb issues
I persoanlly prefer to be feared lol. If I remain unapprochable I filter out the dumbasses that way. As far as dealing with people and thier issues, we all have them. I have no problem with doing that as long as they are a friend and someone I'm close to, and even then I tell it like it is. SOME DAY I'M GOING TO RULE THE WORLD. hahahaha
darkslave rocks..lol.thats what im talkin about people..brutal honesty...not just with others but with oneself. like someone said....dont post if you dont want an honest answer from people.
for the most part..if i post a thread about a certain topic it IS because i CHOOSE to. I enjoy drama. i like to see how long some people will put up with my bs..or just get a good laugh out of it.
once more people..I AM A PRICK.
yeah you might be a prick but that is ur honest opinion and drama i can take it if u give it i always come back
thank you for the votes lol...all those who dont follow shall parish in the worst kind of tourture known to man.....stuck in a room where all that is play is britney spears on repeate and forced to stay awake with high dosage of caffine and uppers. lol *evil grin*