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I have read in several different places about psy vamps basicaly trying to learn more about myself. Most say that passive feeding can be dangerous because if a vamp accidental takes too much from a donor than the donors natural instincts takes some back creating yet another vamp.

So basicly my questions is of pregnant women. If a vamp is in a crowd passively feeding and he takes to much from a pregnant women, If she can take some back what happens to the fetus? And is this maybe how some of us are born vampires?

Hmm... hard question to answer. I honestly do not know. I shouldn't think it would harm the baby unless it was directly targated against it. But I am really not sure.

i really don't know but this interests me so someone please answer his question.

Wow. Awesome question.

Awakenings in the womb perhaps? or just a possibility created within future reality?

ooh.. What if, the mother was aware of the event and told the child later in life and that then led the child to seek more and subsequently, awaken?

wow... *brain shuts down*

good question, it could be an awakening in the womb actually.

It would explain the latant psy vampires. Very interesting idea.

personally I don't believe that psy vamps are ever "created"....some people just have a latent talent for being energy leeches....most will never learn to use it....
but in some rare cases....the person gets a psychic awakening so to speak....and aquires the ability to use those latent talents

At this point in the responses, it seems that anything is possible.

I, not being a vampire, and not knowing enough about it all, do not have an answer.

I would be more inclined to say that If a vamp was created it would be the mother, not the fetus that would be 'turned'. Even though the fetus feeds on the mother's blood and nutrients, I would be more inclined to say the mother takes more of the vampiric feeding than the fetus.

But who knows...

ya know, that's cirious thing, but yet not impossible. completely possible. the idea that blood or energy is a nesscesity was first given as a gene when the gene was implanted into the mother, making them bother a form of a vampire, until the born child is suddenly awoken during their path of life.

This is such an interesting idea. By the same thought, would a child being carried by a psy-vampire be a psy-vampire or more inclined to be one? I would be very interested in knowing...

good question.

No one should try and harm such an innocent and defenceless creature, such as a baby.

I agree dont try to harm a baby, but a pervert that no one likes have fun with him ;)

I think it'better not to feed off a pregnant woman.

Even tough if it doesn't harm it still the woman would need her energies.

I agree about children... I believe that the questions are posed as if the person feeding doesn't know that a person is pregnant in the crowd or perhaps even the woman pregnant does not know herself yet.
I posed the question I did due to the fact that I am a mother myself and due to the fact that probably 50% or so of my psy-feedings are unintentional/subconcious level, I wonder about any unborn children of mine in the future. I was not aware of my abilities (awakened) before I had my first born, so I do not really know for sure if I psy-feed during that pregnancy. Although my daughter does seem to be more tuned to what people are thinking, tends to be drawn towards people that are psychically inclinded, and has a keen 6th sense about people.

intriguing question and an hard one at that. i wouldnt begin to know what would happen only to say that whatever happens, happens, if the child will be affected then it will be. let it happen naturally. dont try to asume.

anythings possible at this point.

I dont kno, but that is a good question, ill do some research and get back to u

Very good question!!! I wish we had a scientific way to find the answer!

Brilliant question, I would think that as the mother and child are connected at that stage it could be VERY likely the child would be affected. But wouldn't the psy-vamp know if they were draining a baby..?

now i cant say much for the fact i have never been with child, but what i know is that every thing a mother does or happens to a mother affects the child. so it very well could be possible that a psy vamp transferred some of its power to an unborn child accidently..

I'd tend to agree with Zuberi... on the basis that everything the mother experiences ~does~ affect (effect?) the unborn child!

I can honestly say that I dont have an answer to this question... I was born the way I am and never had what one calls an awakening... I have known the things about myself always, and never questioned them. I questioned why others around me couldnt do the things I can do. lol. An interesting thing came to me though as I read this thread. I recall when I was pregnant with my daughter, she literally took everything I had from me. I couldnt take vitamins and I was always sick and it was bad. I remember all I could do was sleep (chronic fatigue) any energy that I had she wiped me of. I was so drained that I was to drained to feed. (That's drained) I do believe that she has inherited the psy-vamp trait from me though. ( I am not sure if that is possible, but I think she has) There are times that she gets mad and throws a fit and I swear to you I become so tired. It is something that happens regularly. That is how I started. When I was a child I only fed when I was mad and it was only on those that made me angry. Now I still feed on those that anger me but I do it regularly, and not only on those individuals. I don't know if this could shed any light on this subject, but I thought it was an interesting side note that seemed relevant to the thread. lol.

Wow, good question...

Well, taking too much from feeding doesn't CREATE another vampire; it brings about a condition called symapthetic vampirism in which the person will unconciously take back the energy they need to survive.

As for the fetus, I'm not quite sure. Surely the well-being of the child relies on the mother's energy levels but I don't know how much of an effect it would have, present or future.

Good question!

And interesting answers from others too.
I do not have an answer for this myself... I guess you need to experiment with that to figure it out, but hell, doing that to a baby........

I have no clue but its an interesting question

hmm it's possible but imma just a tag along to all this O.o like i kno nothing

most likely if the mother has any leanigns towards psychic ability then the child stands a good chance to also....
in most research on the subject there does seem to be some correlation towards genetic disposition
but this is only really conjecture as very few rebutable scientists will even go near the topic of psy abilities....
I do agree tho on a personal note that feeding from a pregnant woman would be rather morally objectionable....if you were the type to have morals that is.....

Excellent question and some good answers. I would say it might be possible, but I have not seen proof to support it in my own experiences. Then again this situation is yet another reason for my feeling that it is not wise to ever take from an unknowing donor, a donor who's own energies are low, children, pregnant females and the ill. You can never be sure just what the results might be on either side, so why risk harming yourself or others by feeding when you can not be sure of the condition of the person from whom you are drawing the needed energies?

I don't know much on the matter. From what I've read, it would take a LOT of energy loss on the victim's part to make them a sympathetic vampire. No idea what subtle-body links the baby may have with the mother, though. Interesting topic. I'm glad you brought it up.

Hmm....Yes, people have much more energy than they realise. Some people measure their energy by how well they feel, after a day of work they come home and have less energy. Yet in Nazi concentration camps after working and being starved all the time people still managed to survive. I think you would have to purposefully drain a lot of energy from someone with an intent to harm them.
I don't know, the times I've found it most enjoyable is when the person willingly gives it. Since I believe we draw our energy from many things, I don't think it is possible to drain someone to the extent where they would have to take back.

I have no real idea what would happen...I don't know that the baby would be effected...I don't really believe that it would crate anothe vamp just by those means....

damn thats a good q? im puzzled out of my mind with that q? ......... ill come back and post if i can figure that one out......

its simple, the mother is only connected to the fetus through the feeding, once the mother dies, the child dies, and there is no blood connecting the two, its not like the t-virus on resident evil, it cannot connect through anything except the blood.

But with energy if the mother is feeding on it there could be a good chance the child gets it as well. But I dont honestly know...

Energy that the psy feed on is primarily focused energy Ruther similar to chi as some call it.
For this I assume only that one must possess o certain level of conscious thought,
I am however unable to ascertain at which developmental stage a fetus would have such a controlling mind of its own. I hope this may help you in your search.

This is a very good question and the various answers were as good as the question itself.....this is a question i cant really answer and ive had 2 pregnancies and had 3 babies...anything is possible really ....

but lets turn the question around a bit if we may....

What about if a mother is already knowing shes a psychic vampire and needs to feed ..realizing the baby could be digesting what shes feeding off of,is that how they are born with psychic vampire traits.or tendencies,that either lays dormant for years on end til something triggers it to awaken or are they born as a psi vamp due to moms feeding during the pregnancy? :)

Awesome question. I think that the baby may become a half breed. In other words half human/half vampire. The phys. Vampires do feed off mortals and If mortals can take back then why couldn't it be a strong possiblity that since the fetus is connected with the mother than it would most likely transfer to the infant. The Vampirism in the child may however come to the child at an older stage in life.

Depending on how you feel the suble body is linked to its mother, it could be a toss-up whether the baby is a sympathetic vampire or not.

However, it is stated in the Codex that if left in a low-energy state long enough, anyone could be 'reduced' to a sympathetic vampire.

IMHO...

Over feeding only turns the victim into another psyvamp if the ability is already there, latent so to speak.

Psy vampirism, like empathy and other magickal skills are often already present, the abilities dormant, unawakened and usually passed from either parent.

So... if a pregnant womans latent ability as a psyvamp is awoken through being fed on, the chances are her child will already have the abilities inborn, and if not awakened in the womb, the child will probably experience an earlier awakening in childhood.

Makes sense.

thats one of the best responses ive seen for a while

I sincere doubt any feeding from a pregnant woman would affect the child , but only the woman. Unlike many vamperic stereotyoes we see and hear everday, you do not Sire a Psionic through any assimilar means as a vampire, for example, would Sire another Vampire through blood.

I think, since you are feeding from the energy/lifeforce of the woman, you would only be taking from the woman. That, in my opinion, might also in a way draw from the fetus, but not by any drastic amount.

I could be wrong, but that is my take on this.

good question, it could be an awakening in the womb actually.

Great and intriquing question.

I dont think anything would happen to the baby because you were feeding from the mother. If in turn you did take to much, her instincts would kick in. bringing back her energy. But becasue she is a mother her motherly subconcious intinks would kick in therefor sheilding the baby to an unknown substance.

Hmm... hard to say. I guess if a pregnant woman is bitten then yeah se becomes a vampire.

The baby on the other hand. They become what they call a half breed vampire.

Since the womans blood that runs to the baby becomes vampire blood, then that replaces the human blood already going through the baby. But the blood from the father remains which the baby still has human traits.

The baby could be born like Blade in those movies as a day walker.

God that would be cool.

Meet a few pysch on here, but most of the one I met in person are cruel and hatred, so I can not make a great judgement on this thread.

We have had so many threads on psy vamps and feeding. We do encourage use of our forum search facility before posting a new thread. Thanks! :)