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BloodxXxOverDose
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04:22:34 Jul 12 2007
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how does one become a werewolf?and is there any such history on the lineage of werewolves?



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of course there is the stories of once you have been scratched or bitten or even drink the blood of one it says that u will become one on the first full moon after it happens



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If you read Billy and Trivia's posts on duality of spirit thred / archetypes that may help.



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Lycanthrope is the disease,where one preceives themselves to be a wolf or *werewolf*.it is basically a chemical imbalance in the brain,that produces excessive body hair...elongated fangs and nails.Also makes the person believe they have superhuman strength and agility,that goes along with the *werewolf* mythlos



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well they say that a mortal was once cursed for a wrong he had done and that he was doomed to live a half life.
The curse had a catch to it he would only be that way for three days out of the month. The night before the full moon, the full moon and then the night after.
then if they bit anyone then the curse would go to that soul for it got into there blood stream.

but don't forget that there are other myths to. One states that they can change without the full moon that they have that choice. They can even heal themselves. But the halflings cannot
but that is another myth in itself
hope that clarrified somethings for u



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I've only heard of the two theories, the one Lycanthrope disease, and the one where it evolved and was passed down heredicaly, and in both i've heard of it being transfered through bite/scratch as well.



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I do enjoy this thread, I had recently posted a trhead stating when in fact was the first werewolf recorded and it eventually died do to lack of knowledge on the subject. the insight of how to become a werewolf bitten or scratched I believe is a movie myth on this other than that no recorded (i believe) lycan has been claimed to developed this way. but would love to read it if so. always been fasinated with this, and not much material for the ages of yester years have come forth in this subject. only recent developments of todays society. But as stated would love to read accounts if any one has this. please message me or I will check back here.



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Like I have said in another thread, perhaps some people should not make assumptions if they do not live the life first. It is the same as Vampirism, except the motives are different. It is in your nature, the same nature you are born with. Perhaps when you mind is ready, you will come to understand or be "awakend" to it. You are not made, or made to be aware, you just are.



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beside with the white jacket and the white bloose, I think its like a vampire, you are or you are not a werewolf, there is no in between.
Now can i have my white jacket?



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u are not crazy no one is crazy u have to look and listen if u think that people crazy then truely u are alone.
There are creatures out there who roam the dark and own with everything they have.
These may seem all myth and legends to u but hey the thing about myths and legends is that sometimes they are true. So don't knock the idea down i hate it when people do that. It just shows how close minded u really are



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Some people can't tell between a RPG and real life when it comes to certain things in our little world,there is (made up storylines...RPG),actual history,and Myth.Somewhere down the line people started believng what was said in RPG is fact.Read about Lycanthropy,lycanthrope was used in the movies Underworld;not used before until then.Im sure everyone beleives what they choose to but learn the fact first.That is how alot of *Vampire* myths began,rumor and storytelling.



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there are many myths about becoming a werewolf.

In the werewolf book I have, some of the main myths are; smearing some type of ointment all over yourself, drinking water out of a wolf's paw print, some type of full moon ritual, and being an awesome sorcerer (that had something to do with the Greeks).

oh and then of course the lycanthrope desease, which is probably how werewolf legends came to be. People were most likely freaked out at the rare occurance and decided to make it make since by having a giant imagination. lol im sure that doesnt make since.


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but how can we know the facts when the rest of the world never knows the facts themselves?



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Mythical Origin of the Werewolf
by Sabine Baring-Gould



Transformation into beasts forms an integral portion of all mythological systems. The gods of Greece were wont to change themselves into animals in order to carry out their designs with greater speed, security, and secrecy, than in human forms. In Scandinavian mythology, Odin changed himself into the shape of an eagle, Loki into that of a salmon. Eastern religions abound in stories of transformation.

The line of demarcation between this and the translation of a beast’s soul into man, or a man’s soul into a beast’s (metempsychosis) is very narrow.

The doctrine of metempsychosis is founded on the consciousness of gradation between beasts and men. The belief in a soul-endowed animal world was present among the ancients, and the laws of intelligence and instinct were misconstrued, or were regarded as a puzzle, which no man might solve.

The human soul with its consciousness seemed to be something already perfected in a pre-existing state, and, in the myth of metempsychosis, we trace the yearnings and gropings of the soul after the source whence its own consciousness was derived, counting its dreams and hallucinations as gleams of memory, recording acts which had taken place in a former state of existence.

Modern philosophy has resumed the same thread of conjecture, and thinks to see in man the perfected development of lower organisms.

After death the translation of the soul was supposed to continue. It became either absorbed into the nous, into Brahma, into the deity, or it sank in the scale of creation, and was degraded to animate a brute. Thus the doctrine of metempsychosis was emphatically one of rewards and punishments, for the condition of the soul after death depended on its training during life. A savage and bloodthirsty man was exiled, as in the case of Lycaon, into the body of a wild beast: the soul of a timorous man entered a hare, and drunkards or gluttons became swine.

The intelligence which was manifest in the beasts bore such a close resemblance to that of man, in the childhood and youth of the world, that it is not to be wondered at, if our forefathers failed to detect the line of demarcation drawn between instinct and reason. And failing to distinguish this, they naturally fell into the belief in metempsychosis.

It was not merely a fancied external resemblance between the beast and man, but it was the perception of skill, pursuits, desires, sufferings, and griefs like his own, in the animal creation, which led man to detect within the beast something analogous to the soul within himself; and this, notwithstanding the points of contrast existing between them, elicited in his mind so strong a sympathy that, without a great stretch of imagination, he invested the beast with his own attributes, and with the full powers of his own understanding. He regarded it as actuated by the same motives, as subject to the same laws of honour, as moved by the same prejudices, and the higher the beast was in the scale, the more he regarded it as an equal. A singular illustration of this will be found in the Finnboga Saga, c. xi.

“Now we must relate about Finnbog. Afterward in the evening, when men slept, he rose, took his weapons, and went forth, following the tracks which led to the dairy farm. As was his wont, he stepped out briskly along the spoor till he came to the dairy. There he found the bear lying down, and he had slain the sheep, and he was lying on them lapping their blood. Then said Finnbog: ‘Stand up, Brain! make ready against me; that becomes you more than crouching over those sheep’s carcases.’

“The bear sat up, looked at him, and lay down again. Finnbog said, ‘If you think that I am too fully armed to match with you, I will do this,’ and he took of his helmet and laid aside his shield. Then he said, Stand up now, if you dare! ‘

“The bear sat up, shook his head, and then cast himself down again. “Finnbog exclaimed, ‘I see, you want us both to be boune alike!’ so he flung aside his sword and said, ‘Be it as you will; now stand up if you have the heart that I believe you have, rather than one such as was possessed by these rent sheep.’

“Then Bruin stood up and prepared to fight.”

The following story taken from the mouth of an Osage Indian by J. A. Jones, and published in his Traditions of the North American Indians, shows how thoroughly the savage mind misses the line of demarcation between instinct and reason, and how the man of the woods looks upon beasts as standing on an equality with himself.

An Osage warrior is in search of a wife: he admires the tidy and shrewd habits of the beaver. He accordingly goes to a beaver-hut to obtain one of that race for a bride. “In one corner of the room sat a beaver-woman combing the heads of some little beavers, whose ears she boxed very soundly when they would not lie still. The warrior, i. e. the beaver-chief, whispered the Osage that she was his second wife, and was very apt to be cross when there was work to be done, which prevented her from going to see her neighbours. Those whose heads she was combing were her children, he said, and she who had made them rub their noses against each other and be friends, was his eldest daughter. Then calling aloud, ‘Wife,’ said he, ‘what have you to eat? The stranger is undoubtedly hungry; see, he is pale, his eye has no fire, and his step is like that of a moose.’

“Without replying to him, for it was a sulky day with her, she called aloud, and a dirty-looking beaver entered. ‘Go,’ said she, ‘and fetch the stranger something to eat.’ With that the beaver girl passed through a small door into another room, from which she soon returned, bringing some large pieces of willow-bark, which she laid at the feet of the warrior and his guest. While the warrior-beaver was chewing the willow, and the Osage was pretending to do so, they fell to talking over many matters, particularly the wars of the beavers with the otters, and their frequent victories over them. He told our father by what means the beavers felled large trees, and moved them to the places where they wished to make dams; how they raised to an erect position the poles for their lodges, and how they plastered them so as to keep out rain. Then he spoke of their employments when they had buried the hatchet; of the peace and happiness and tranquillity they enjoyed when gathered into companies, they rested from their labours, and passed their time in talking and feasting, and bathing, and playing the game of bones, and making love. All the while the young beaver-maiden sat with her eyes fixed upon the Osage, at every pause moving a little nearer, till at length she was at his side with her forepaw upon his arm; a minute more and she had placed it around his neck, and was rubbing her soft furry cheek against his. Our ancestor, on his part, betrayed no disinclination to receive her caresses, but returned them with equal ardour. The old beaver seeing what was going on, turned his back upon them, and suffered them to be as kind to each other as they pleased. At last, turning quickly round, while the maiden, suspecting what was coming, and pretending to be abashed, ran behind her mother, he said, ‘To end this foolery, what say you to marrying my daughter? She is well brought up, and is the most industrious girl in the village. She will flap more wall with her tail in a day than any maiden in the nation; she will gnaw down a larger tree betwixt the rising of the sun and the coming of the shadows than many a smart beaver of the other sex. As for her wit, try her at the game of the dish, and see who gets up master; and for cleanliness, look at her petticoat?’ Our father answered that he did not doubt that she was industrious and cleanly, able to gnaw down a very large tree, and to use her tail to very good purpose; that he loved her much, and wished to make her the mother of his children. And thereupon the bargain was concluded.”

These two stories, the one taken from Icelandic saga, the other from American Indian tradition, shew clearly the oneness which the uncultivated mind believes to exist between the soul of man and the soul of beast. The same sentiments actuate both man and brute, and if their actions are unlike, it is because of the difference in their formation. The soul within is identical, but the external accidents of body are unlike.

Among many rude as well as cultivated people, the body is regarded as a mere garment wrapped around the soul. The Buddist looks upon identity as existing in the soul alone, and the body as no more constituting identity, than the clothes he puts on or takes off. He exists as a spirit; for convenience he vests himself in a body; sometimes that body is human, sometimes it is bestial. As his soul rises in the spiritual scale, the nobler is the animal form which it tenants. Budda himself passed through various stages of existence; in one he was a hare, and his soul being noble, led him to immolate himself, in order that he might offer hospitality to Indra, who, in the form of an old man, craved of him food and shelter. The Buddist regards animals with reverence; an ancestor may be tenanting the body of the ox he is driving, or a descendant may be running at his side barking, and wagging his tail. When he falls into an ecstasy, his soul is leaving his body for a little while, it is laying aside its raiment of flesh and blood and bone, to return to it once more when the trance is over. But this idea is not confined to Buddists, it is common everywhere. The spirit or soul is supposed to be imprisoned in the body, the body is but the lantern through which the spirit shines, “the corruptible body” is believed to “press down the soul,” and the soul is unable to attain to perfect happiness till it has shuffled off this earthy coil. Butler regards the members of the body as so many instruments used by the soul for the purpose of seeing, hearing, feeling, &c., just as we use telescopes or crutches, and which may be rejected without injury to our individuality.

The late Mr. J. Holloway, of the Bank of England, brother to the engraver of that name, related of himself that, being one night in bed, and unable to sleep, he had fixed his eyes and thoughts with uncommon intensity on a beautiful star that was shining in at the window, when he suddenly found his spirit released from his body and soaring into space. But instantly seized with anxiety for the anguish of his wife, if she discovered his body apparently dead beside her, he returned, and re-entered it with difficulty. He described that returning as a returning from light into darkness, and that whilst the spirit was free, he was alternately in the light or the dark, accordingly as his thoughts were with his wife or with the star. Popular mythology in most lands regards the soul as oppressed by the body, and its liberation is considered a deliverance from the “burden” of the flesh. Whether the soul is at all able to act or express itself without a body, any more than a fire is able to make cloth without the apparatus of boiler and machinery, is a question which has not commended itself to the popular mind. But it may be remarked that the Christian religion alone is that which raises the body to a dignity equal to that of the soul, and gives it a hope of ennoblement and resurrection never dreamed of in any mythological system.

But the popular creed, in spite of the most emphatic testimony of Scripture, is that the soul is in bondage so long as it is united to a body, a creed entirely in accordance with that of Buddism.

If the body be but the cage, as a poet [1] of our own has been pleased to call it, in which dwells the imprisoned soul, it is quite possible for the soul to change its cage. If the body be but a vesture clothing the soul, as the Buddist asserts, it is not improbable that it may occasionally change its vesture.

[1. VAUGHN, Sitex Scintillans.]

This is self-evident, and thus have arisen the countless tales of transformation and transmigration which are found all over the world. That the same view of the body as a mere clothing of the soul was taken by our Teutonic and Scandinavian ancestors, is evident even from the etymology of the words leichnam, lîkhama, used to express the soulless body.

I have already spoken of the Norse word hamr, I wish now to make some further remarks upon it. Hamr is represented in Anglo-Saxon by hama, homa, in Saxon by hamo, in old High German by hamo, in old French by homa, hama, to which are related the Gothic gahamon, ufar-hamon, ana-hamon, {Greek e?ndúesðai}, {Greek e?pendúesðai}; and-hamon, af-hamon, {Greek a?pekdúein} {Greek e?kdúesðai?} thence also the old High German hemidi, and the modern Hemde, garment. In composition we find this word, as lîk-hagnr, in old Norse; in old High German lîk-hamo, Anglo-Saxon lîk-hama, and flæsc-hama, Old Saxon, lîk-hamo, modern German Leich-nam, a body, i. e. a garment of flesh, precisely as the bodies of birds are called in old Norse fjaðr-hamr, in Anglo-Saxon feðerhoma, in Old Saxon fetherhamo, or feather-dresses and the bodies of wolves are called in old Norse ûlfshamr, and seals’ bodies in Faroëse kôpahamr. The significance of the old verb að hamaz is now evident; it is to migrate from one body to another, and hama-skipti is a transmigration of the soul. The method of this transmigration consisted in simply investing the body with the skin of the animal into which the soul was to migrate. When Loki, the Northern god of evil, went in quest of the stolen Idunn, he borrowed of Freyja her falcon dress, and at once became, to all intents and purposes, a falcon. Thiassi pursued him as he left Thrymheimr, having first taken upon him an eagle’s dress, and thereby become an eagle.

In order to seek Thor’s lost hammer, Loki borrowed again of Freyja her feather dress, and as be flew away in it, the feathers sounded as they winnowed the breeze (fjaðrhamr dunði).

In like manner Cædmon speaks of an evil spirit flying away in feather-dress: “þät he mid feðerhomon fleôgan meahte, windan on wolkne” (Gen. ed. Gr. 417), and of an angel, “þuo þar suogan quam engil þes alowaldon obhana fun radure faran an feðerhamon” (Hêlj. 171, 23), the very expression made use of when speaking of a bird: “farad an feðarhamun” (Hêlj. 50,11).

The soul, in certain cases, is able to free itself from the body and to enter that of beast or man—in this form stood the myth in various theological systems.

Among the Finns and Lapps it is not uncommon for a magician to fall into a cataleptic condition, and during the period his soul is believed to travel very frequently in bodily form, having assumed that of any animal most suitable for its purpose. I have given instances in a former chapter. The same doctrine is evident in most cases of lycanthropy. The patient is in a state of trance, his body is watched, and it remains motionless, but his soul has migrated into the carcase of a wolf, which it vivifies, and in which it runs its course. A curious Basque story shows that among this strange Turanian people, cut off by such a flood of Aryan nations from any other members of its family, the same superstition remains. A huntsman was once engaged in the chase of it bear among the Pyreneean peaks, when Bruin turned suddenly on him and hugged him to death, but not before he had dealt the brute its mortal wound. As the huntsman expired, he breathed his soul into the body of the bear, and thenceforward ranged the mountains as a beast.

One of the tales of the Sanskrit book of fables, the Pantschatantra, affords such a remarkable testimony to the Indian belief in metempsychosis, that I am tempted to give it in abstract.

A king was one day passing through the marketplace of his city, when he observed a hunchbacked merryandrew, whose contortions and jokes kept the bystanders in a roar of laughter. Amused with the fellow, the king brought him to his palace. Shortly after, in the hearing of the clown, a necromancer taught the monarch the art of sending his soul into a body not his own.

Some little while after this, the monarch, anxious to put in practice his newly acquired knowledge, rode into the forest accompanied by his fool, who, he believed, had not heard, or, at all events comprehended, the lesson. They came upon the corpse of a Brahmin lying in the depth of the jungle, where he had died of thirst. The king, leaving his horse, performed the requisite ceremony, and instantly his soul had migrated into the body of the, Brahmin, and his own lay as dead upon the ground. At the same moment, however, the hunchback deserted his body, and possessed himself of that which had been the king’s, and shouting farewell to the dismayed monarch, he rode back to the palace, where he was received with royal honours. But it was not long before the queen and one of the ministers discovered that a screw was somewhere loose, and when the quondam king, but now Brahmin, arrived and told his tale, a plot was laid for the recovery of his body. The queen asked her false husband whether it were possible to make her parrot talk, and he in a moment of uxorious weakness promised to make it speak. He laid his body aside, and sent his soul into the parrot. Immediately the true king jumped out of his Brahmin body and resumed that which was legitimately his own, and then proceeded, with the queen, to wring the neck of the parrot.

But besides the doctrine of metempsychosis, which proved such a fertile mother of fable, there was another article of popular mythology which gave rise to stories of transformation. Among the abundant superstitions existing relative to transformation, three shapes seem to have been pre-eminently affected—that of the swan, that of the wolf, and that of the serpent. In many of the stories of those transformed, it is evident that the individual who changes shape is regarded with superstitious reverence, as a being of a higher order—of a divine nature. In Christian countries, everything relating to heathen mythology was regarded with a suspicious eye by the clergy, and any miraculous powers not sanctioned by the church were attributed to the evil one. The heathen gods became devils, and the marvels related of them were supposed to be effected by diabolic agency. A case of transformation which had shown the power of an ancient god, was in Christian times considered as an instance of witchcraft. Thus stories of transformation fell into bad odour, and those who changed shapes were no longer regarded as heavenly beings, commanding reverence, but as miserable witches deserving the stake.

In the infancy of the world, when natural phenomena were ill-understood, expressions which to us are poetical were of a real significance. When we speak of thunder rolling, we use an expression which conveys no further idea than a certain likeness observed between the detonations and the roll of a vehicle; but to the uninstructed mind it was more. The primæval savage knew not what caused thunder, and tracing the resemblance between it and the sound of wheels, he at once concluded that the chariot of the gods was going abroad, or that the celestial spirits were enjoying a game of bowls.

We speak of fleecy clouds, because they appear to us soft and light as wool, but the first men tracing the same resemblance, believed the light vapours to be flocks of heavenly sheep. Or we say that the clouds are flying: the savage used the same expression, as he looked up at the mackerel sky, and saw in it flights of swans coursing over the heavenly lake. Once more, we creep nearer to the winter fire, shivering at the wind, which we remark is howling around the house, and yet we do not suppose that the wind has a voice. The wild primæval men thought that it had, and because dogs and wolves howl, and the wind howled, and because they had seen dogs and wolves, they concluded that the storm-wind was a night-hound, or a monstrous wolf, racing over the country in the darkness of the winter night, ravening for prey.

Along with the rise of this system of explaining the operations of nature by analogies in the bestial world, another conclusion forced itself on the untaught mind. The flocks which strayed in heaven were no earthly sheep, but were the property of spiritual beings, and were themselves perhaps spiritual; the swans which flew aloft, far above the topmost peak of the Himalaya, were no ordinary swans, but were divine and heavenly. The wolf which howled so wildly in the long winter night, the hounds, whose bay sounded so. dismally through the shaking black forest, were no mundane wolves and hounds, but issued from the home of a divine hunter, and were themselves wondrous, supernatural beings of godlike race.

And so, the clouds having become swans, the swan-clouds were next believed to be divine beings, valkyries, apsaras, and the like, seen by mortals in their feather-dresses, but appearing among the gods as damsels. The storm-wind having been supposed to be a wolf, next was taken to be a tempestuous god, who delighted to hunt on earth in lupine form.

I have mentioned also the serpent shape, as being one very favourite in mythology. The ancient people saw the forked and writhing lightning, and supposed it to be a heavenly fiery serpent, a serpent which had godlike powers, which was in fact a divine being, manifesting himself to mortals under that form. Among the North American Indians, the lightning is still regarded as the great serpent, and the thunder is supposed to be his hissing.

“Ah!” exclaimed a Magdeburg peasant to a German professor, during a thunder-storm, as a vivid forked gleam shot to earth, “what a glorious snake was that!” And this resemblance did not escape the Greeks.

It is so difficult for us to unlearn all we know of the nature of meteorological phenomena, so hard for us to look upon atmospheric changes as though we knew nothing of the laws that govern them, that we are disposed to treat such explanations of popular myths as I have given above, as fantastic and improbable.

But among the ancients all solutions of natural problems were tentative, and it is only after the failure of every attempt made to explain these phenomena on supernatural grounds that we have been driven to the discovery of the true interpretation. Yet among the vulgar a vast amount of mythology remains, and is used still to explain atmospheric mysteries. The other day a Yorkshire girl, when asked why she was not afraid of thunder, replied because it was only her Father’s voice; what knew she of the rushing together of air to fill the vacuum caused by the transit of the electric fluid? to her the thunder-clap was the utterance of the Almighty. Still in North Germany does the peasant say of thunder, that the angels are playing skittles aloft, and of the snow, that they are shaking up the feather-beds in heaven.

The myth of the dragon is one which admits, perhaps more than any other, of identification with a meteorological phenomenon, and presents to us as well the phase of transition from theriomorphosis to anthropomorphosis.

The dragon of popular mythology is nothing else than the thunderstorm, rising at the horizon, rushing with expanded, winnowing, black pennons across the sky, darting out its forked fiery tongue, and belching fire. In a Slovakian legend, the dragon sleeps in a mountain cave through the winter months, but, at the equinox, bursts forth—“In a moment the heaven was darkened and became black as pitch, only illumined by the fire which flashed from dragon’s jaws and eyes. The earth shuddered, the stones rattled down the mountain sides into the glens. Right and left, left and right, did the dragon lash his tail, overthrowing pines and beeches, snapping them as rods. He evacuated such floods of water that the mountain torrents were full. But after a while his power was exhausted, he lashed no more with his tail, ejected no more water, and spat no more fire.”

I think it is impossible not to see in this description, a spring-tide thunderstorm. But to make it more evident that the untaught mind did regard such a storm as a dragon, I think the following quotation from John of Brompton’s Chronicle will convince the most sceptical:

“Another remarkable thing is this, that took place during a certain month in the Gulf of Satalia (on the coast of Pamphylia). There appeared a great and black dragon which came in clouds, and let down his head into the water, whilst his tail seemed turned to the sky; and the dragon drew the water to him by drinking, with such avidity, that, if any ship, even though laden with men or any other heavy articles, had been near him when drinking, it would nevertheless have been sucked up and carried on high. In order however to avoid this danger, it is necessary, when people see it, at once to make a great uproar, and to shout and hammer tables, so that the dragon, hearing the noise, and the voices of those shouting, may withdraw himself far off. Some people, however, assert that this is not a dragon, but the sun drawing up the waters of the sea; which seems more probable.” [1] Such is John of Brompton’s account of a waterspout. In Greek mythology the dragon of the storm has begun to undergo anthropomorphosis. Typhus is the son of Tartarus and Terra; the storm rising from the horizon may well be supposed to issue from the earth’s womb, and its characteristics are sufficient to decide its paternity. Typhus, the whirlwind or typhoon, has a hundred dragon or serpent heads, the long writhing strive of vapour which run before the hurricane cloud. He belches fire, that is, lightnings issue from the clouds, and his roaring is like the howling of wild dogs. Typhus ascends to heaven to make war on the gods, who fly from him in various fantastic shapes; who cannot see in this ascent the hurricane climbing up the vault of sky, and in the flying gods, the many fleeting fragments of white cloud which are seen drifting across the heavens before the gale!

[1. Apud TWYSDEN, Hist. Anglicæ Script. x. 1652. p. 1216.]

Typhus, according to Hesiod, is the father of all bad winds, which destroy with rain and tempest, all in fact which went among the Greeks by the name of {Greek laílaps}, bringing injury to the agriculturist and peril to the voyager.

In both modern Greek and Lithuanian household mythology the dragon or drake has become an ogre, a gigantic man with few of the dracontine attributes remaining. Von Hahn, in his Griechische und Albanesische Märchen, tells many tales of drakes, and in all, the old characteristics have been lost, and the drake is simply a gigantic man with magical and superhuman powers.

It is the same among the Lithuanian peasantry. A dragon walks on two legs, talks, flirts with a lady, and marries her. He retains his evil disposition, but has sloughed off his scales and wings.

Such is the change which has taken place in the popular conception of the dragon, which is an impersonification of the thunderstorm. A similar change has taken place in the swan-maiden and were-wolf myths.

In ancient Indian Vedaic mythology the apsaras were heavenly damsels who dwelt in the tether, between earth and sun. Their name, which signifies “the shapeless,” or “those who go in the water “—it is uncertain which. is the correct derivation—is expressive of the white cirrus, constantly changing form, and apparently floating swan-like on the blue heaven-sea. These apsaras, according to the Vedaic creed, were fond of changing their shapes, appearing generally as ducks or swans, occasionally as human beings. The souls of heroes were given to them for lovers and husbands. One of the most graceful of the early Indian myths is the story of the apsaras, Urvaçî. Urvaçî loved Puravaras and became his ‘wife, on the condition that she was n-ever to behold him in a state of nudity. They remained together for years, till the heavenly companions of Urvaçî determined to secure her return to them. They accordingly beguiled Puravaras into leaving his bed in the darkness of night, and then with a lightning flash they disclosed him, in his nudity, to his wife, who was thereupon constrained to leave him. He pursued her, full of sorrow at his loss, and found her at length swimming in a large lotus pond, in swan’s shape.

That this story is not a mere invention, but rests on some mythological explanation of natural phenomena, I think more than probable, as it is found all over the world with few variations. As every Aryan branch retains the story, or traces of it, there can be no doubt that the belief in swan-maidens, who swam in the heavenly sea, and who sometimes became the wives of those fortunate men who managed to steal from them their feather dresses, formed an integral portion of the old mythological system of the Aryan family, before it was broken up into Indian, Persian, Greek, Latin, Russian, Scandinavian, Teutonic, and other races. But more, as the same myth is found. in tribes not Aryan, and far removed from contact with European or Indian superstition,--as, for instance, among Samoyeds and American Indians,--it is even possible that this story may be a tradition of the first primæval stock of men.

But it is time for me to leave the summer cirrus and turn to the tempest-born rain-cloud. It is represented in ancient Indian mythology by the Vritra or Râkshasas. At first the form of these dæmons was uncertain and obscure. Vritra is often used as an appellative for a cloud, and kabhanda, an old name for a rain-cloud, in later times became the name of a devil. Of Vritra, who envelopes the mountains with vapour, it is said, “The darkness stood retaining the water, the mountains lay in the belly of Vritra.” By degrees Vritra stood out more prominently as a dæmon, and he is described as a “devourer” of gigantic proportions. In the same way Râkshasas obtained corporeal form and individuality. He is a misshapen giant “like to a cloud,” with a red beard and red hair, with pointed protruding teeth, ready to lacerate and devour human flesh. His body is covered with coarse bristling hair, his huge mouth is open, he looks from side to side as he walks, lusting after the flesh and blood of men, to satisfy his raging hunger, and quench his consuming thirst. Towards nightfall his strength increases manifold. He can change his shape at will. He haunts the woods, and roams howling through the jungle; in short, he is to the Hindoo what the were-wolf is to the European.

A certain wood was haunted by a Râkschasa; he one day came across a Brahmin, and with a bound reached his shoulders, and clung to them, exclaiming, “Heh! go on with you!” And the Brahmin, quaking with fear, advanced with him. But when he observed that the feet of the Râkschasa were as delicate as the stamens of the lotus, he asked him, How is it that you have such weak and slender feet? The Râkschasa replied, “I never walk nor touch the earth with my feet. I have made a vow not to do so.” Presently they came to a large pond. Then the Râkschasa bade the Brahmin wait at the edge whilst he bathed and prayed to the gods. But the Brahmin thought: “As soon as these prayers and ablutions are over, he will tear me to pieces with his fangs and eat me. He has vowed not to walk; I will be off post haste!” so he ran away, and the Râkschasa dared not follow him for fear of breaking his VOW. (Pantschatantra, v. 13.) There is a similar story in the Mahâbhârata, xiii., and in the Kathâ Sarit Sâgara, v. 49-53.




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I have no idea how one becomes a true werewolf if it's even possible. I do know one thing, I keep an open mind about it so I believe anything can happen.



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Anything is possible, yet like us as living vampire would we not say there are in fact living werewolfs, I am sure scientist some where have been dwelling in the idea of this, strength and heightened sences. a bite a scratch. things are possible



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I thought werewolves had to be born as a werewolf the same as Vampires.



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i always wondered do werewolves have immortallity such as vampires do i know i have heard of the myths but that is all



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Once again,Nephilim.
What is behind the theory?
Vampires and other crossbred creatures where the result of genetic manipulation and crossbreeding.
Thus the terms,Fallen Angel,the Fallen etc...



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my grandmom once told me that..people shape shift in an animal..sometimes in dreams or visions..some times taking there guide form..i really don't understand why..but some times it is needed to do so..so do i believe in it..maybe?..



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In the Native American culture,there have been shapeshifters,shamons,they spirit walk...their animal spirits are what they change into.



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Who knows i believe there is do to the fact we r still finding new animals and beings everyday i dont think anyone will ever now for sure



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i really dont no for sure but i do believe the bite or scrath thing is possible just because there would be a cross in DNA or if you injected there DNA into you....hmm yea i dont really no aye



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It would make sense a werewolf was born a werewolf and not made on like with vampires. Who knows. Now you got me curious. I wonder if there really are werewolves.



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i think that if a werewolf was born a werewolf would not that mean that there was a higher level of werewolf and in fact they would most likely have to have a system of order such as a pack of wolves do i just always figured that in all the possibilities of one becoming charmed as a werewolf that it would be more than just a bite or a scratch..i have always thought that werewolves originated from somewhere in the uk.'tis hard to know myth from legengs on such topics as this.



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they dont exactly have to be bitten or scratched there are a few that have been born from human parents its rare but it can happen.



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UV,why do you think it is so rare? Not a challenge,just curious as to how you feel wherewolves and vampires came about in the first place.
I see several posts that state what one believes happens,but I have yet to see anything back their theory up.
Anyway we can interact a bit more in this thread other than throwing out answers and leaving it at that?



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for me ill have to look through history to find out and looking at the myths and lengends to find out where they came from but im sure i you look far enough back in history youll find the answer



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Depends on the part of the world you are in.

The russian beleive that you can become a werewolf by stabbing a copper knife into a hewn tree in the woods Going around it 3 times with and speaking an incantation ( I will post that spell later)

Many believe that one does not phyiscally become a wolf but can mentally attach oneself to the spirit of the wolf and see through their eyes and move in their body through intense meditation.

The Enemies of the Norse believed that the Norse Beserkers were werewolves AS they used to where wolf pelts and went into a large frenzy that was a threat to friend and foe. ( more to come)



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ok maybe someone all ready mentiond this but I am posting it any ways sorry
use of witch craft."In the spiritual traditions of other cultures, Shamans are expected to seek the assistance of their spirit helpers, who appear most often in the form of their totem animals. In certain instances, to explore more effectively the spiritual dimensions, shamans may even assume the persona of their totem animal and become that animal for a time, be it a wolf, a raven, an, or whatever creature has granted its power to their quest.
However, in the Europe of the Middle Ages, those who employed any kind of shamanic practices were in grave danger of being tortured and dragged to the stake to be burned to death.



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That's pretty harsh...I have a friend who believes she was a witch in past lives. She was burned at the stake. Not very nice...people are so cruel.



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Soem believe that the 7th Consecutive son was prone to being a werewolf. Or a child born on DEcember 25 were more likely to be a werewolf if male and a witch if female.


I found all of this information out in a book called:

Werewolves by Nigel Suckling. Great book it's only about 100 pages



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I always thought it was a spiritual thing that you had to be born into. I could be wrong though.



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u can be bitten by one drink there blood and also get it through passion



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start your research with wikipedia it always gives good clues

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werewolf

enjoy



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well there are many different stories as to how someone can become a werewolf or lycan

one is being scratched which can cause the werewolf genes from the hair and bone from the werewolf go into the scar or blood causing the person to change into the thing that scared them

the other is most common is biting
same as a scratch the saliva has an exfoliant to change the harmless things into were animals or humans once "infected"



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i find it interesting that one can become a werewolf in almost the same likelyness that a vampire is awakened and now that the first part of the question has been clearly answered i am very curious still to as of the history of of such beings as the werewolf and where their history of lineage comes from



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but could these accounts of werwolfism be do to the genectics of a disease that grows hair all over your body, and people because of their ignorance seeeing them different asumed they were werewolfs? a question I also put out.



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Darkest Greetings...

In order to answer your inquiry...
I must first say that there are many theories, as we all know as how a werewolf becomes a werewolf, from ancient Greece and the accursed Lykaon, supposed father of the Lycanthropes...
to the medieval and European belief...

The line between myth and reality is very feeble, thin...uncertain, only we can define it, and to say that myth and fantasy do not have a certain 'reality' would be slightly absurd...

How a lycanthrope becomes what he is, I do not know exactly, for I lack the exact facts, but this I know, it is not merely some delusion , though there are fiascos and posers ... the real thing does exist and many of you may or may not know it...

Making fun of it, or taking it slightly will not change the facts,
many things cannot be explained, but that does not mean they do not exist...
though belief is for us to determine...

I would say lycanthropy is passed on lifetime after lifetime, being a spiritual trait, or can be acquired...
transformation into the lupine form occurs at an energetic and astral level...
but this is just a theory of mine...

Farewell...hope to have contributed...

Lord Markus



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Hyprtrichosis
Documented cases the wolf boys of mexico link here to read about them.
this in the dark ages was once thought to be the wolfmans curse.
Danny and Larry
http://www.circusfolks.com/apub/bio.html



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I always thought you had to be bitten by a werewolf during the full moon to become one.



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Carvall has an excellent point about the Duality thread, as I personally think it links very closely with our mentality and ideas of "roles."

I personally do not believe in what I what coin as "cinematic" werewolves, as in, I do not believe that there are werewolves, and therefore, none to bite anyone.



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I really wish that people would take this subject seriously,too many of you are thinking of the made up crap in movies.The full moon has nothing to do with it...a bite or scratch has nothing to do with it.99.9% has to do with genes,DNA...or brain chemistry.



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Sorry to burst whoever's bubble this is, but there isn't any such thing as werewolves, but well perhaps in Hans Christen Anderson novels..



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Werewulf old and classic mythos OR another child of Lilith?
The lore, myth, and stories of these dates back from prehistoric man to the age of today. From the personification or the aspects of wulf to the full transformation of one form to another. History, culture and lore have painted an interesting picture of this.
From the creation of all the tribes of “others” in the start of things and the world {also called Tribes of the Moon}. To the “Higher power” cursing and turning someone into this idea. From magical ways, spiritual transformation or just the physical appearance of the body looked at.
The stories of what a werewulf is and how one becomes a werewulf is found many times all over the world. It has already been stated several different ways and yet the theme is repeated over and over.
Yes legand and lore state the bite or wound caused by one will turn someone into a werewulf as well. This includes when a pair of cursed/blessed/created werewulves mate, a family linage is started.
The three nights of the full moon bring out the “beast” in myth. It is the time of partial to full transformation. Being able to transform at will would be after many years of dealing with the “beast”, controlling the beast within as well as what triggers the beast to emerge. Can the transformation be controlled through mediation and having control over one’s emotions? Or is it just a physical transformation that one has no control over - waiting upon the time of the moon? Depending on where and when in the world the myth and lore originated will tell as to just how much the moon or other factors affect the werewulf. What do you consider a full transformation into a werewulf to be? Is it a four legged wulf running through the woods or a two legged humanoid form as movies and artists have portrayed?
The wulf is not the only transformational myth and legend that can be found. A list of the more commonly known animals around the world are cat, fox, bird and bear to name a few.
Is it not interesting that the craving for fresh meat and blood is the same as with other myth/lore based ideas? And within those ideas there are many different types and ways that these mythos play out. As well as the reasons to take the form of an animal within lore and myth. From The God/dess in different past tellings of deed and the common person as well.
“Nothing but silver can kill a werewolf.” Why is that? Not even stuffing a tube or two of dynamite in its pants and knocking it out a 2 story widow will kill one in a movie. After the werewulf lands in pieces we see the parts trying to reasemable into the werewulf. Where did that variation come from?
Why in lore and myth are the vampire and werewulf enemies? Or how did it come to be that the werewulves work for vampires? How it is the same ideas are always poping up and yet few seem to list where they found their information.
I have an occult and ancient lore and myth library that I have accumulated looking for the older stories and ways. Most of what I wrote came from the library. Use the internet as a tool and see where and what you can come up with. From the starting of the werewolf to what it is and how it came to be. Show where so others know and find different by the end all that can be found will be. And answers will be full instead of repeating. One source conjecture, two sources plausible, three or more the sources not based upon the other sets the truth for all to find.



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Hmm, i have heard many things.... Like if you drink water from a wolf pawprint, if you have sex with a were and live, if you are bitten.... many many things



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There are many ways that people believe in how you become a werewolf. Legends about being cursed or if one bits or scratch you that you turn into one. Also that its in the family bloodline and thats the only way to become one. I know i haven't personly met one, so who really knows the legend of the werewolf and the true history. But if i met one, I'll ask him or her how its done and let you know.



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to xxEmaeraldxx... i think werewolves exist just as much as vampires or any other hybrid creature,it may not be literaly perceived how you depict but i think there are such individuals out in the sub-cultures that take on such a personification as the formentioned creature but i do think that everyone has a right to their own opinion.



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You are right BloodCreep, everyone can think what they like, but for me in life I deal with facts, and evidence. Not fantasia. If there is any medical evidence of a Werewolf then I will believe..until then you can believe you want, I really dont care.



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Wouldn't a werewolf be born what he (or she) is and not "made" by bite or spell?



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I thought you had to be bitten by a werewolf to become one.....



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werewolves are created or, begin existance from being bitten by a mutated wolf or another werewolf.
we are immortal,
unless we are shot or if we touch silver.
(we're allergic to silver)
a true werewolf is part of the pack when a member completes a set of trials.
The last trial that declares you are a werewolf, is that the becoming memeber has to catch a deer or other edibal animal and eat it's liver.



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Lets say that is so ,how does this mechanism work? Any thoughts on that?And how does the immortality enter into the mix?



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And mutated wolf? How did it get mutated?From what?



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werwolfs are most likely created through the blood stream with a lycan gene, bite scratch, be born eith this.



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Some people are getting movies and RPG game plots mixed up with real life.There are no Lycans,thats movie myth,but people DO in fact suffer from Lycanthropy,that is fact.They DO believe they are werewolves and CAN transform into a fur covered,clawed handed creature.Skinwalkers are REAL,just ask any old timer Native American.Read any book on Native American history,you will find a bit about shamons and shape shifting,spirit walking as their animal spirit guides.



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Indeed, werwolves are created by a bite or a scratch from another werewolf! Indeed



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This history of the Lycan or Werewolf as far as I know dates back to the 12th century if not further. Also known as Garou or Lupan found primary in France and Italy at the time. There has been talk of the becoming of the creature by that of witchcraft or as of a curse upon a section of people. There's also the part of them being blood tied to that of the actual vampyre. To becoming one, it's by the siliva or blood of the creature that pass it's genetic change. That's a basic summary I'm placing so far...



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Oceanne
whats wrong with throwing out my opinion most people ask what the masses think and if its my belief whats so wrong with that??



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Most of the histry surrounding Werewolves wwas developed anywhere that were plagued with wolves ( Lots of places in Europe). Wolves tended to attack domesticated farm animals or if they were hungry enough would occassionally attack humans.

Before "man" became an agricultural society wolves were seen as a great hunter and something to be respected. When the agricultural society started there was a paradigm shift that caused wolves to become greatly fear and as a result massively over hunted. In many places (Ireland, England) wolves were hunted into extinction.



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I have always thought that to become a werewolf you have to be bitten by one, their is also another form of werewolf i think the people who have a mental problem that basically go insane during a full moon i have heard of this type of werewolf but i forget where i have seen it written...



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Raven Knight...if you actually read my former posts...you will know what has been mentioned here several times....



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it makes me wonder if it's possible for when a werewolf is transforming if they receive a death like how a vampire does and then receives a new life like an awakening. i am enjoying all the post and thoughts thus far.



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On destination unknow last night they had this same senerio, where in I believe brazil they had sightings of werewolfs, and their lore was it was the seventh son born in a family and not baptized, they were the werewolf. another lore to add here.



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If you watch The Wolfman b/w movie...which is the only Universal made movie made up...it was a gypsy curse...but thats a movie.



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UrielArnauld,Nothing at all wrong with it.I am simply curious as to what it is about a said theory .I would like to know more,thats all.



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its hard to know if werewolves have immortality so many people believe that it is only a myth but there are some werewolves who say it is a myth so to keep there identity a secret for when there are vampire hunters there are also those who hunt werewolves as well



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There are some cultures that believe when a werewolf dies it becomes a vampire and that is why vampires are able to transform into wolves



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Now in my opinion,
loup garous or werewolves are born..not made,
au contraire to common belief...

If you decide to see them like the hollywood movies, or a 'disease' , even DNA alterations....

so...
choose ...it will no make things different...

Lord Markus



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of course there is the stories of once you have been scratched or bitten or even drink the blood of one it says that u will become one on the first full moon after it happens



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The legends I heard about the creation of Werewolves:
1)Be Bitten
2)Be Scratched
3)Drinkning water from a wolf pawprint
4)Have sex and survive
5)Skin a wolf and use magic spells
6)Hypertrichosis*Is a medical condition*



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i've heard that you become a werewolf in part, the first night of a full moon after you have been bitten, but it take 3 mons to complete the trasfomation fully.



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Using sorcery and the left hand paths magickal lore.

One becomes a werewolf by making supplication to lucifer, ahriman, and lillith as well as the god of the forest. One does this, adorning themselves with the pelts and crying out in the forest at midnight some invocation calling to open forth the gates of hell to let loose the beast within.



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As for the lineage, blood magick such as what I have mentioned, would allow by the principle of incarnations to mean that anyone subject from the line of the person doing the calling, would inturn be subject to being born with the spirit of the wolf within them, as their animating spirit.



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i come to realize that being a werewolf is just a society form just as vampires are today and that most everyone is created the same although we would like to think otherwise.ocasionally i find such individuals minds to run wild with imaginations but thats alright..thats what makes it fun and enjoyable.



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Werewolf
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A German woodcut from 1722A werewolf (also lycanthrope or wolfman) in folklore is a person who shapeshifts into a wolf or wolflike creature, either purposely, by using magic, or after being placed under a curse. The medieval chronicler Gervase of Tilbury associated the transformation with the appearance of the full moon, but this concept was rarely associated with the werewolf until the idea was picked up by fiction writers. In popular culture, a werewolf can be killed only if shot by a silver bullet, although this was not a feature of the folk legends.

History of the werewolf
Many European countries and cultures have stories of werewolves. In northern Europe, there are also tales about people changing into animals including bears, and wolves.
The legends of ulfhednar mentioned in Vatnsdœla saga, Haraldskvæði and the Völsunga saga may be a source of the werewolf legends. The ulfhednar were vicious fighters similar to the better known berserkers, who were dressed in bear hides and reputed to channel the spirits of these animals to enhance effectiveness in battle; these warriors were resistant to pain and killed viciously in battle, much like wild animals. Ulfhednar and berserkers are closely associated with the Norse god Odin.
In Greek mythology, the story of Lycaon provides one of the earliest examples of a werewolf legend. According to one version, Lycaon was transformed into a wolf as a result of eating human flesh; one of those who were present at periodical sacrifice on Mount Lycaon was said to suffer a similar fate. The Roman scholar, Pliny the Elder, quoting Euanthes,[5] says that a man of Anthius' family was selected by lot and brought to a lake in Arcadia, where he hung his clothing on an ash tree and swam across, resulting in his transformation into a wolf, a form in which he wandered for nine years. On the condition that he attacked no human being over the nine year period, he would be free to swim back across the lake to resume human form. The two stories are probably identical, though we hear nothing of participation in the Lycaean sacrifice by the descendant of Antaeus. Herodotus in his Histories[6] tells us that the Neuri, a tribe he places to the north-east of Scythia, were annually transformed for a few days, and Virgil is familiar with transformation of human beings into wolves.[7] In the novel Satyricon, written about year 60 by Gaius Petronius, one of the characters recites a story about a man who turns into a wolf during a full moon.

I don't know how someone can be a true werewolf but i believe there can be such a thing. I keep my mind open to the possibilities as i believe anything can happen.
I've heard stories of people being bitten or scrathed and somewhere it says that after this you will become a Werewolf on the first full moon after whatever has happened to you.
And the other theory of Lycanthropy, the abilty for a human to transform into a Werewolf.
I don't really know if Werewolves can be immortal as i don't know much on the subject of Werewolves.


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Read the True story of "The Beast of Bray Road" It will make you wonder. It's about a wolf like beast that wonders the area of southeastern Winsonsin. I't might make a few of you think twice weather it's a myth or not.



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i have heard of 2 ways,

one be bitten by a were wofl

two live as a wolf, get the left over from there kill, follow there tracks, and drink from the same ares i got that from a book called werewolf 101 i belive



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The Beast of Bray Road

The Sci-Fi Channel

they made the story into a cheesy movie

the channel would be different depending on where you live.



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Sometimes, the condition of werewolf is the result of a spell cast by a magician (St. Patrick of Ireland changed Veretius, King of Wales, into a wolf). and It is said that humans who enter into a pact with the Devil himself do so out of desperation and often, in an effort to seek revenge for the death of a loved one. In popular European superstition, the Devil is said to appear in the form of a coachman whose carriage is drawn by black steeds. The Devil offers a potion that provides the strength needed to carry out the revenge, in exchange for the person's soul. The potion is often in the form of a vial, the contents of which are applied to the human skin under the light of a full moon. The transformation into a werewolf will then begin immediately and the human has been completely turned into a werewolf forever.




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Its not just a simple thing to actually become. First, its also not something one does but who they are and as such you make who you are part of your daily life. Its not just what someone is but a spiritual part of them selves. You don't get bitten or anything like the legends say.

One is either born a werewolf (or some other werebeast). There are many who have discovered the secrets to shapeshifting and actually became a shifter. Even if you like wolves and try to become a wolf shifter, it doesn't really garintie that is what you will become. As such, the animal chooses you, not the other way around. Alot of people start out as fox shifters because the fox is known for its natural shapeshifting ability but then that changes over time once they discover their true form. If you really want to know the basics of how to become a real shifter, you should find the book "The Magic Of Shapeshifting" by Rosalyn Greene. Its a really awesome book and will teach you the many basic things about shifters and how to prepair to become one if you so choose to take that in to part of your life.

I hope that I have been helpful.



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mentally and spiritually-Yes one can be practically anything but Physically- there are certian things that limit individuals to transforming and changing into certian creatures i believe..



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The book I mentioned teaches how to become a real shifter, its a shamanic type of thing also. One can transform them selves astrally but thats not really shapeshifting its self. Shapeshifting is when ones mind becomes the animal they truly are inside. It is also possible through physical practice but those type of shifters rarely exist anymore, but there are some who are able to fully physically shift.

What happens is the etheric animal form manifests its self in such a way the ectoplasm makes it possibly to literally transform ones body into its animal state. The book I gave for refrance explains in detail of what happens to the body. There is also a certain energy that shifters only have. Its this type of feeling like an urge, its like if you don't physically change, it feels like your going to rip open your body. It is painful but to the shifter even though it is painful to them, it feels good. Its a very complicated process to transform physically, not to mention that its of a higher form of power within most people.

But yes, you are also correct because now a days physical shifters are rare, they also tend to be an astral shifter or a mental shifter. In this situation their mind becomes the animal they truly are and they start to act like the animal. When someone is an astral shifter, it is also the same but their spirit exits their body and they leave footprints and even fur/feathers depending on what type of werebeast they are. Most of these shifts occur during a full moon, there are a few that have happened during the dark moon. But as the legends say its because of the moons energy. For some people, its not a choice in if they want to be this or not. This also means that the shifting occurs on its own and cannot be controlled.

The lady who wrote the book, I should also mention is a mental shifter and she has been able to come across a few physical shifters. Like I said, the book is extremely interesting! Has alot of info in it about shifters and it just really opened my eyes to the spiritual world.



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I've heard of several ways, including:
Wearing wolf skins,
Being bitten/scratched by one,
Some rituals/meditations,
Drinking water collected in a wolf's pawprint,
and some others that I don't remember at the present.



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The first werewolves were Romulus and Remus who were nursed and raised by a wolf. This according to the first myths I have read and this goes back to the early Roman times. Other ways to become a werewolf as others have already mentioned being bitten, scratched, being cursed by a wytche or a gypsy. I believe that Romulus and Remus started the natural line of werewolves. Beware when the full moon is bright and the wolfbane blooms!



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I do not believe that werewolves and shapeshifters are the same, shapshifting can be done by shamans, and i believe that it is still practiced today in native american tribes...



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