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The general agreement was love spells are wrong as we all regard such an emotion very high and pure, if it is meant to be then it will be.
That makes me happy.

If your in a relationship and you cant find the words to get out would it be wrong to use a spell to end it?

This is a good one, there is many to prolong it to make it stronger, but to end it, never taugh of it, it could be good tho in a way that its not forcing the other person to be in a relation that would not exist otherwise

If something is wrong with the whole relationship I dont think spells should be used. Messing with something that is not meant to be could make it worse. Messing with anothers life always has something aweful happen to some involved... even if they were not involved with the whole relationship idea. Its always best to forget what happen and move on... you never know what comes out of another spell!!!

i agree...i don't practice but i believe certain things shouldn't be messed with...love being one of them.

I agree, interfering with love and it's natural path is just asking for repercussions. It's one of the few truly "pure" things we have. Interfering only succeeds to taint it.

But what if you want out as you need to discover yourself or you lack intermittency skills.
Have a fear of commitment yet your partner is all for growing old and kids n what not … would a spell be ok then?
To let them down gently so to speak

i wouldnt use a spell...you should just be blunt spells bind people and you dont want to force love on someone

I would never use a spell to get out of a relationship. I'm an honest person and I would let the other person know that the relationship is not working and end it.

You should never use a spell when t comes to emotions...it always leads to trouble, trouble & even more trouble!!

I think it would be alright to cast a spell to lessen the blow, but i do not think it is right to use a spell to end a relationship...

I agree, love is an emotion and should be respected as such and not messed with with magic.

To be honest i think if you tell someone the truth about why you do not want to be with them they will leave you alone, but i was thinking if they do not want to leave you alone then i think a person has a right to cast a spell to make that person break the relationship off...

Interesting raveknight, I had a friend who I slept with a couple of times, it was just high spirited fun and I said from the go it’s just sex……. She stalked me for months… had to hide, then she got real bad.
Wish I had used one on her I still have a knife scar through my hand and out the other side.
They say you look back on such events and laugh …. I still cant lol

I definetely would not want to use a love spell on someone to make them fall in love with me... if it was meant to be, then let it happen naturally.

Yeh thanks we all wouldn’t want to put a spell on someone to fall in love. That was agreed in the last post .
This question is would you use a anti love spell to stop them from loving you if you didn’t real love them or just went to far along as your such a nice person you didn’t say know soon enough.

I think it's better to just deliver the news straight, without using witchcraft or anything to soften the blow. I think I'd feel guilty if I cast a spell on someone just because I was scared of hurting them.

hmmm.. sorry about that... Anyway, no I wouldn't use an anti love spell either. There are ways to let people know that you are not interested in them, and I don't think spells are a way to do that.

i would think being blunt and honest would work better than any spell

I could personally never use a spell to end a bad relationship this is when the quote honesty is best policy falls into place. I would just be truthful and tell other person it not working out and instead of us staying in something not good let's end it and stay friend's if possible.

if something is wrong with the relationship you have to be honost with ur partner. Its best to keep it going or ending it that way. So there should be no big problems with that. Using spells may get what you want but can cause more problems. Messing with someone could actually not just change ur relationship but maybe the whole worlds... depending I guess... but it could happen!!

i don't think love spells really WORK. i mean think about it... YOU'RE the one who's controlling them into "loving" you. so what are they thinking deep deep down in their hearts? they DON'T. that's the thing about love spells. they're not really making the person love you, it's just an illusion that the other person really thinks is happening. so using one to breakup with someone could possibly have the exact same effect. they may not really want to end the relationship, and you're going to end up hurting them, or they're going to end up hurting themself, either way you look at it, it has the same aftershock. spells people... gotta watch what you're messing with these days...

Casting a spell to break up seems to be more work than it should be. I say swallow it an use your human communication skills.

each for their on i say if you are going to dump some one just do it dont try to do something you cant and say you did

I think anyhting that interferes with free will should be left alone. Manipulation is just wrong to me as well as the possible repercussions of doing such a thing. Honesty works wonders.

Personally, I wouldn't want to know that someone 'loves' me or is leaving me because of a spell. Whatever you're doing, good or bad, karma is there, waiiiitiiing. lol

Using spells against others for any reason is wrong. You must becareful when using spells, if you can't communicate and you feel you should end the relationship, then you should just try to tell the person how you feel, you owe each other that much.

have we learned nothing from JK Rowling? Voldemorts mother used a love charm on a man she found handsome and once she thought he may care for her too, she removed the charm only to be tossed into the street with her baby boy. Just say no, you hopeless romantics!

ive never got a gfriend so id use one if i could.

if u r trying to save a relationship and that's your last resort i think a spell would be ok,i mean well hasn't any1 seen a spell book?it says to use the spells if u have tried everything possible without magic.

I never tried this if the other person doesn't feel the same way you shouldn't try to force it

As stated elsewhere, Love shouldnt be forced upon someone. You shouldnt mess with their Free Will.

I agree with the general consensus that spells are a no-no when it comes to manipulating feelings of love.

For me, it would be a personal conflict of wondering whether or not my partner's feelings were true and valid and real, or just some facade created by me.

When it comes to breaking up - I don't believe in letting someone down easy. Breaking up is terrible, and yeah it hurts - but I find that it hurts less when people are honest with one another. To be frank, I think that is the biggest problem with relationships is a fear of communicating to the point that honesty is compromised.

As far as vampire love goes - I have no opinion as I have no knowledge on the subject.

I am in a tuff situation right now,, and can't get out, but a spell is not the answer.

I don't think that love should be messed with.

I could not do something like that. I could not bring myself to do spells to end a relationship.

I would rather break up with someone without using spells.
I'd want that person to remember it.

I agree with the general fealing about casting a spell , wither to start or end love.

but heres another question, is it moraly acceptable to cast a spell to Find a true love, without the focous on a specific person?

I say its's wrong of both counts. Using spells on someone to get them to like you is bad enough. You should use words not spells. Besides that's cheating and admitting that you can't gain friends unlless you use some sort of alternative method to go about it.

If you like some one do it the old fashioned way tell them. Same goes for when you decide to break up.

I agree with blue blood on this one, besides what good will come of it. Let nature take it's course as intended.

ive never found love itself.so ill have to keep looking for somebody i can love and visa versa.if somebody tried casting one on me id notice and resists it and so would many people i think.

When you break off a relatoinship just be honest with that person. Tell them how you feel, and the reason why they should break up. This will go a lot more smoother in the long run. Whatever you do don't put off or prolong it that will complicate matters even worse. Believe me I know breaking up is the hardest thing to do.

If the situation were reversed I would definately repel the spell, I would resist there influence. No one should be a slave to love or lust. I would fight with every being and fiber I had in my body.

This is my last thaught on this subject matter, love is a beautiful and wonderous thing. No one should toy with it any way, Spell or no spell.

I second that notion, cinnamon is right. As far as I'm concerned this disscussion is over case closed. Some one should close this thread. I am not immused, more like annoyed.

Love and the semblance of love are like diamond and cubic zirconia... they may look similar but one is of much less worth than the other and cannot withstand scrutiny... spells for love are spells to imitate love... not to replace it...

Love-whether looking for it or trying to end it should be based on truth. If you had any kind of relationship with a person, even just a sexual one, you should be responsible and mature enough to tell them its over. The ending of even the worse relationships hurts. That's because it is the ending of something and the fear of the unknown of the future. But bad relationships have to end to go on to better things for the both of you. Think of it as doing that person a favor as well, because if you are not happy with them, they are better off with someone else that can truly love them.

The only way I would use magick to banish someone from my life is if I have told them numerous times it is over and it is a dangerous situation, as in stalking and the person is possibly dangerous. Then I would banish them from my life probably, but that is me. But as with everything, I would also do the mundane thing and report it and take out a restraining order first.
Even with that situation you have to be careful and KNOW FOR SURE you will never want them in your life again, because once its done, its done. Magick should be the VERY LAST RESORT and only if the police seem to be useless against the person.

A client of mine who was a witch told me that she left her coven because of banishing spells being cast... her view was that the spell should be invoked to send them on their way to destiny...

I know I'm not perfect or a saint. I make mistakes and I pay for them. You shouldn't mess with mother nature she is a b****.

Uzziel, I don't blame her, especially if they were using them often on people, and depending on for what reason.
One of the reasons I have never joined a coven is for that exact reason, I am sure I would have different opinions with just one person, even more a whole coven of different personalities with different styles of magick.
I have never had to do one actually(banish spell on a PERSON, I have on sickness, disease, etc), but I have been in some very destructive/abusive relationships, before I even knew I was a witch and luckily they moved on by my insistance that I was finished.
I was referring to a very very bad situation and as a witch, no we are not suppose to bend someones will, but I feel its within my personal code to protect myself against harm.
The way you put it, "sending them on their way to their destiny" is a much BETTER way of wording it and sounds much better than the word banish, but its intended purpose is the same. To send someone away from you, so you both can reach the next phase in life.

I do believe it would be wrong. It brings back Karma 3 fold. I think the human emotions should not be meddle with magically. No matter what.

Love potion number 9... we know a song about that don't we children... it is true then that WICCA is about empowerment without harm to others...

I must have missed the thread before this one...

i think casting a spell to fall in love is pretty wrong, i agree that for true happiness both partners need to feel it on their own.

as far as casting a spell to end a relationship... i dont think it should be necessary. i think that honesty and openness is always going to be best. even if it is the hardest way to do it. imagine if your lover found out you cast a spell to end it, when you couldve just talked about it. thats what i hear, everytime a relationship ends i feel like crap because i should have said something. if that makes sense.

i think love is something that should never be dabbled with... because its the purest thing we've got. u know?

Yes it is and I do understand love is the law love under will.

I know Bloodlust with hindsight they say it’s 20 20 lol … what you do is what most of us do in the end of a relationship …. Communication has become hard as we go into ourselves, and I mean personal communications as we stop sharing that part with a dieing relationship and lets not forget Love is an act of endless forgiveness……….

Thank you for all who read the original post and just about everyone believes you shouldn’t use love spells to start or finish love.
I wonder why the media in the shops has said love spells … is there truly a market out there or just silly marketing ……………..

to use spells first one must know what they are dooing and if it trully what you want but just remember once sent out there is no undooing and seccodly it comes back on you time 3

well I don’t believe in 3 fold and have posted why in the past so I wont rant
personally I think some people have a natural talent for magic and some might need to focus more

so no one here would use magic to alter love in anyway for or against ....

why are the magic books full of love spells then?

Spells should have nothing to do with love!! Its love it comes from the heart only!!

As long as you don't interfere with the true will of another, all is fine.

I f someone loves you but you dont feel the same, then you should break it off personally without any spells. Its the right thing to do. Thats how every one else does it.

Never force something that isn't meant to be it could turn bad on you

Spells to influence another are of the 'black' arts and if you read any of my posts you know I do not practice black magick.

However there is nothing wrong with love spells so long as they are directed at yourself to make you more perceptive, empathetic, attentive, etc., to make you a better lover and more attuned to the needs of the one you seek.

I agree when love comes it’s like a trident missile and it will find you … till then just enjoy life.

As for not doing dark arts?

Lavisbre, It could be done if words will fail you. If it was done, say for the other person to see the truth of the situation and not to harm them in any way.

It would be finding the right spell and being VERY clear on your intentions as to what it is you truly want.

There are the moral aspects, however this is different to forcing someone to love you. You want your partner to see the truth in you, so I can't see how that would be wrong.

Mmm good question. I just don't think spells used without that person's knowing about it is right. There are so many questions that arise of course.sYou mentioned ending a relationship because perhaps the person could not find the right words.I still think one should use their own words and strength.

Thanks Nocturnisorchid and everyone who added to this … so far it is very apparent we all rate love very high and any tampering is seen as wrong.
Still makes me wonder why love spell are even in the main stream if no one does them lol