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tigerzplay
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I have had an experience that perhaps others could help me explain.

Sometimes when I am beyond exhausted and I start to fall asleep I feel my body lay down but then I can feel and see myself flying. It scares the krap out of me. The wierd thing is that I can direct the flying part of me with thought. It creeps me out to go through walls or places I know that I have never physically gone. I cannot do this diliberately and it doesn't happen often but when it does I get incredibly frightened.

Does anyone here know what this might be or what might cause it?
any information would be welcome. Thank you!




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Try researching out of body experiences (OBEs) or Astral Projection, what it sounds like to me. I'd get you some links but I'm going to bed now sorry :p



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Also,take a look at the links I posted in the sleep paralysis thread.



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I have only astral projected once in my life. I wasn't trained, trying or thinking of it -- still, I felt myself leave my body and I could look down on the room I was laying down in. I scared myself and the experience ended.

Now, to really astral project -- hell, there are Tibetan monks spending their lives meditating and centering their chi (or whatever one centers in Tibet) and they don't even achieve it.

There's tons of literature from legit to quacky that can better explain methods or how it could occur on its own. In my case, I was just beyond perfectly relaxed and was at the point where your mind wanders just before you drift to sleep, but you are still quite awake.



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01:04:05 Sep 09 2008
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thats exactly what it was i was between sleep and barely awake. its happend more than once and the more it happens the more im able to relax into it and control the direction it goes and things like that. but is it astral projection.



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Actually,not to be argumentive here but not always.There is something called Atonia which our body does nightly to keep us from getting hurt while we sleep.I have experienced both and the feelings are very similar,but there are very subtle differnces that can help you tell if it is one or the other.



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01:09:39 Sep 09 2008
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For instance,someone tells you they dreamt about you and saw you in a dream..the very next day or so.



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hmm well if i can control it then is it astral or atonia. I am thoroughly confused



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01:18:43 Sep 09 2008
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Well, are you seeing any evidence afterwards that you have actually been someplace? Like what I mentioned?It can be confusing somethimes for sure.



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Or you see someone you know damn well you saw during one of these episodes..or a place? And I am not referring to Deja vu.Thats differnt.



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01:22:20 Sep 09 2008
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I actualy get a floating feeling from way to much sugar. But not like astal travel ,that just blows my mind . Happens once in a while. Still got to get more often.



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01:23:49 Sep 09 2008
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I dont feel floaty from astral travel either..thats one way I know the differnce too.



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01:24:37 Sep 09 2008
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Opps misread your post..but I dont feel floaty when doing it.



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01:30:07 Sep 09 2008
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Let me clear it up -floating feeling is from sugar but makes me feel not like I'm me. Astal is not float but a lift of me insides. Hard to explain.



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01:51:01 Sep 09 2008
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I don't get a floaty feeling but one of movement when i have OBE especially when astrally traveling.



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For the most part,I dont even feel that,I just find myself there,looking at the scene.I used to pretty much doubt even this,untill I started to see evidence that I might have actually been to a place.



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02:20:51 Sep 09 2008
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sounds like dream travel. your body sleeps while you leave it and experiance things while no longer attacted to the corporial form.



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03:44:04 Sep 09 2008
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I dont recall a floaty feeling -- in fact, I was just hovering over everything in the room. I felt normal, kind of dream state but not. I even caught a glimpse of someone in a different room.

Oceanne is argumentative by nature -- she is going to start a battle royale any second!



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03:48:42 Sep 09 2008
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Hahah neh.I just like putting different stuff up so we can pick em apart and maybe ,hopefully make some kiind of sense of it all.PROMISE!



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03:52:20 Sep 09 2008
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I sometimes wonder where I wander when I have my micro seizures.



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03:55:17 Sep 09 2008
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Oh piss, is that what I'm supposed to be doing in the forum? Whoops on that one... *grin*

Back to the subject, ever have the feeling like you are falling very far while you're lying in bed? Obviously, not astral projection, but I wonder if it applies to what we've been discussing as other possibilities? Any ideas?


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04:06:21 Sep 09 2008
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Yes,I have had the falling feeling,but I dont believe that is astral travel.At least for mre it isnt.
What makes this tricky is that there are bonified mundane reasons that things like this happen.I also believe we really do "travel around" but telling them apart is tough.And I tell you,if it werent for a few things,I would believe that it was all just our bodies doing what it does .I dont float,and when Im in a place,Im standing there,on the ground like everyone.The kicker is,sometimes I know a room and things that are in that room and have never been there other than in my mind.So would that be liken to remote viewing? Well Im not sure,I tried that once and only got one out of three correct when trying to look thru an envelope.So who knows..



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Ooo! Good one, remote viewing! I have been to places and known where to find objects (I dont mean look in a cupboard and you will find a glass) -- I driven past dilapidated homes and knew everything about them -- what happened, where the rooms are, and once I knew there was this mondo deluxe chandelier in one house I visited but it had been taken out of the parlor over a hundred years ago.

I used to think it was just info I may have gleaned somewhere and filed away with the rest of my interesting yet useless information, but no. I had no prior knowledge of any of these places. I've done the same with people. I have had entire conversations (beyond discussing weather) about pretty personal topics and realized I had no clue who the bloody hell they were. Maybe in the two times that happened I was not looking like a crazy threatening person so they entertained me...



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I think this has something to do with astral projection and out of body things. There is a point in the process of sleep that our body does this.... releases itself from the daily stresses... etc.



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Feeling like you're floating when you're starting to go to sleep is perfectly normal and perfectly not paranormal. It's common to about 70% of people and is referred to among researchers as hypnagogic myoclonic twitch, because the floating or falling sensation is often followed immediately with a violent muscular twitch. This twitch can lead to wakefulness or be the first signal of full sleep.

Really. Look it up.



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well honestly i think that's normal.. i mean your so tired that your body just wants to relax so when you lay down thats what its doing...as your mind is starting to rest it feels like your floating until your reach that point of unconsciousness as you fall asleep...



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Honorable Tigerzplay,

You are doing relaxing exercise that time automatcally due to your conscious lead to it. this automatic doing is the life's one moulding you can say. life always seek the self the inner be stressless and strainless. who do not have this natural talent they do this the same through relaxing exercises.

This is your conscious's natural talent that you love floating by inner to overcome the tireness and some does the floating on the river current too. some do float in open air this is the vision and you can rise astrally on this.



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03:05:39 Sep 10 2008
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In an expirement (that I do not recommend to anybody) in studies of cult practices, and their tendancy to inturpite things to suit their "teaching" I did the hyper-ventialation (they tell their followers it is meditation) I got a number of sensations one being a halo, our aura effect, and even a dipping effect. The "guru" actually had phamplets showing a veil hyperventalation "exercise" for his followers. A video of a service actually showed people hyperventalating, in worship.



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This may be the actuall sensation of "falling asleep". Psychology labels this as normal and often happens when you are severely tired. I have felt this sensation of falling/floating when I am very very tired.



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