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Electric people..Im sure we have all heard of this term.There are many explainations for this,but A group of Russians believe that Torsion Fields might explain it beyond static. According to them,Torsion fields could explain the human Aura,telepathy,hands-on healing, psychokinesis, and other "paranormal" phenomena. It has been suggested that the "electric human" effect might come about because of a super-strong torsion effect which surrounds a particular person. I would like to hear your thoughts on it.

And my question is,do you feel there could be any truth to it?

Ooooh, nifty! I have never heard of "electric people" (other than ConEd). So, these people are able to heal others by what means deriving from electricity? I don't see how phenomena of such magnitude has not been studied and over-studied!

Yes dear one, I have come across articles of this nature before. Very simple people that embrace the divine.

It is kinda weird yes,but from what I understand,they mostly cause electrical disturbances in appliances ,lights etc... The healing part comes in when we bring in the Torsion factor.According to the Russians, Torsion fields or waves account for healing,auras and other psycic phenomena.Its really controversial,but I feel in the long run they might just find these guys are actually onto something.

I had an aura photo and reading taken a few years ago and the reader told me I had one of the strongest auras he had ever come across. "Simply beautiful" was how he best described it. I find I can't wear digital watches as they keep stopping, I can wear the watch for maybe two or three days and then the numbers start fading in and out and the watch stops. It got to the point where I gave up buying them because companies started refusing to honour the warranties on the watches.

I also have a lot of trouble with my bedside lamp, the bulbs never last very long and there are no problems with other bulbs in the house. And before someone asks, yes I have tried different lamps.

I haven't thought about exploring healing before, although my friends tell me that being hugged by me or just being in my presence is a great comfort to them if they are distressed.

I also have a huge problem with electric shocks off pretty much everything. The latest big one I got was yesterday off a parsnip at the supermarket...... see what I mean by getting them off anything??? lol

Electric people..... like fibromyalgia? (sp?) Apparently they're people with an extra strong aura. They have a tendency to screw with electrical appliances like you described.

Okay, having looked it up, screwing with electrical appliances only occurs SOMETIMES with people with fibromyalgia, among a shitload of other symptoms. Ignore me.

You're correct,so no one should ignore you.It is suggested that viruses can cause it .But it is temporary in those cases.Supposedly.

As discussed in yesterday's thread (zapp, that hurt's) I've always had major problems with electrical and no electrical items. I get shocks from door handles, eslators, the backs of chairs (wooden ones as well), t.v's, i'm constantly need to retune my t.v remote contro,as i keep blowing it, i sometimes blow light blubs. it's a complete nightmare and i do have epidodes of esp but i've never tried healing.

Most of my esp experiences are telepathic or pre-cog in nature.

This is very interesting
where can you have one of these aura pictures taken?

I Believe it, I have been told many times by people that when I have touched them it felt like a bolt of electricity going through them and made them feel better, it just happens, I dont know why or how... but sometimes I do feel it running through me, and when there is a lighting storm I can feel a connection with it, I cant explain how great of a feeling it is, but I feel very alive..

hey I'm like that VD,

I'm in the u.k so i don't get to see lighting storms that often, but when they do occur, i'm so charged up with energy i'm bouncing for a couple of days later. Of course, that could be adrenaline as i love storms anyway but i've always felt a deep connection with them or any natural event such as a rain storm, winds, thunder etc i love it!

Bonez,its called Kirilian photogrophy.If you can find someone who does this,then you can get your kinetic energy photographed.Here is a vid. Explaining this process.

Thanks for the info, I am also intrested in having a photo done just for curiousity....

Ya I also come to life when the wind blows or fire blazes, its a connection with Nature, it has an omni presence of life force, electrical energy, its what connects us all in a harmonic balance .... thats what I believe anyway...

Excatly VD,

It's something that connects us to the earth. I also think people who are afraid of storms etc are just afraid of embracing their wild side or possibly they are just to entrenched in 'civilisation'?

Of course there are people who geniujne can't tolorate storms due to some trauma in their past as well which is a dire shame as nature is the one thing which connects every single living thing on this planet alike, planet, animal or human.

Any other connections you feel with storms VD? Other than them making you feel good? Ever feel you can control or manifest them in anyway?

Most Definitly, that is what I love most about the storms, I didnt want to mention it as people have opinions about that, but yes I feel as if I can control them in ways, they are living energy themself so cant fully control, but can manipulate and move it around or feed it to grow bigger, as in more constant and bigger lightning bolts, or stronger winds, and even move it around me, very exilerating and addicting at times... but I dont use my full potential out of fear someone might see me....

"can't one be of a stronger nature and display a powerful aura sans this electric ability"

My take? Absoloutely.
And Im not so sure I would label it an ability yet..its still too soon for that.


Even though its been around for a long time and the ancients believed in Aura and the like, Mainstream science has never embraced the idea.But with the advent of new technologies and advancements in physics I feel we just might come up with some pretty kool findings in the near future..And while there are alot of believers in magic and the "paranormal",there has never been any real difinitive proof.With the onset of this Torsion idea,who knows...

This is an interesting subject. I think everyone at one time or another has given a shock because of static electricity. I have always had a high energy field around me so much so I cant wear a wrist watch, I effect TV's and radio's as well. Think now they are studying this phenomenon.

Mikhail

VD,Is there anything special you do that enables you to bring them about? And once you get them going,how do you control them?Also,how do you "feed" them to make them stronger?

I have noticed more lately that more and more people are becoming more acceptable of the un explainable and mysterious paranormal and relising its possible existance which I fore see a new era in which those that have been hiding for years in fear of judgements and exile and such will finally be able to surface and bring a change to the world that has been long awaited.... thats my opinion any way...

There is nothing speacial that I am aware of, as it is something I was born with, so its natural to me, the only way I can explain : its like Polorized energy, pushing and pulling at the same time... if you are aware of how energy works, there is an effect that happens when we share our energy, it becomes magnified, as you give it to something or someone, and its returned to you, it comes back stronger, then just send it back, it becomes like a ping pong, getting bigger with each bounce, but if you try to take it then it wont work, the other will withdraw and guard against it, so both sides have to be just giving and allow to recieve, it creates a conection and begins to flow with little effort.... theres so much more to it, as it is yet another of many pradox's ... but I hope this gives you a good idea of what im tryin to explain...

Well thing is, is that we all have the etheral field around us/the aura. We all exude energy. Some learn the ways to channel it through us to others and other things. I have, by becoming a Reiki Master. But before that, I was doing healing work, like so many others do. It just comes naturally, to hold onto hurt areas on our bodies and warm it up. That is healing. =)

My Mom used to say that when I got mad, she felt the electricity in the air and felt like things were going to start flying. haha....I don't get mad like that very often. I generally have a lot of patience......but little of it for ignorance.

"This is an interesting subject. I think everyone at one time or another has given a shock because of static electricity. I have always had a high energy field around me so much so I cant wear a wrist watch, I effect TV's and radio's as well. Think now they are studying this phenomenon."

What if someone offered you 1,000,000 to actually show this effect?

Would you want the money?

Hell no I wouldnt want the cash,but I would certainly love to contribute to any proof that might come out of it.

I wish such a person would come up to shut up all those scientist that say no person can do such things, well at least not without some crafty performance props. Yet all the people that claim such things are very selective as to who sees their power. At least here someone is bringing it to science on a science proceeder, I will watch where this research goes, I hope tit doesn't prove to be one of those privite funded things that is also seeking grants, under crafted demos though, those pop up in a 5 year cycle, some even repackage an old trick with new technology.

You and me both Dab.Im rooting for this one to be honest.
I do feel that one of the problems if that when /if someone can do these kindof things,it is so inconsistant that they might be afraid that if they fail in the study enviroment,then it will all be discounted.Thats One reason there needs to be an ongoing study of the person or persons over a period of years.
I dont understand why anyone would be secretive about it unless there really is something underhanded going on.

Jamie,thanks for your imput.As a Reikki Master,have you ever come across this before in someone? and if so,what would you do in that situation?

Take you for example madam you zap the hell outta things I believe it could be true

I have a friend who kinda attracts lighting. I have been out with him in a storm and we almost got hit multiple times. I know say lighting never strikes twice but that isn't true where he is concerned. The lightning seems to follow him it is kinda freaky

Dabbler I have been studied for this at UCLA as well as my psychic ability. You want to target me fine but leave it out of the threads please.

Mikhail

Mikhail,I like would like to see all sides in the threads I post.It is why I start them.No one should be worried about skeptisism if they feel there is something to what they are talking about.All they're asking is for evidence,and since no one seems to be willing or able to come up with any,I can sure see where they are coming from. As Blood stated,I do have this problem,so of course,Im looking for other who might have these traits or problems as well.
You say you have been studied..please, share with us what they found?

I think that Aura photographs are a cool thing..
I'd love to get mine on film to see the wide ranges of color on paper..rather then just seeing it with my minds eye.

sd for those that hold an electric charge..Yes there are people that do hold some voltage..a for wattage..well I've never had the balls to find out how much is carried.

seen light bulbs pop due to this Kenetic energy.

no I'm not targeting you, i just want you to show video of what you claim. Then, I'd be the first to admit I was wrong

Whats a torsion effect?

Torsion fields are subtle earth energies that a group of russians supposedly discovered,claiming that this energy is what accounts for things like ESP and all that.Ive posted links in other threads but cant remember where.But Ill go get a couple and post them here.

What I mentioned above Rybaxxx isnt really a good description and not even the half of it,but hopefully when you read that info,youll understand where Im coming from.

Ok one more..that should get you off to a good start.
http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Articles/1-2/benford.html

well i'm jest tired of sciens tring to explan evry thing any you

Im sorry Matt,I cant understand your reasoning or share it ,because if science can explain it,and give us at least a tenative reason all these these CAN happen,I know I will be very excited indeed.

I think what you are trying to say is , you are sick of science trying to explain everything.. hmmm... it seems that the metaphysical followers are always pressing science to validate their claims.

Damn science explaining what cancer is cancer, and then attempting to explain that there are curable types of cancer, one thing that gets me is that metaphysics tries to associate trickery with metaphysics, interpeting everything as mystic, does that ever get a jade coating?

What have metaphysical "researchers" contributed to social, civil, or medical advancement? Hold up the two side by side, what has Metaphysics explained? What applications for metaphysics has made a break through?

Well...

Torsion you say it... its not torsion its conscious expansion and the use of subconscious. In psych and yoga there is the way of growing conscious to that level that use ascension and able to process teh quest of psych and gain the answer and desired psychic and para-psychic achievement.


If you wish to play with photon the light, you ca meditate on it. its easiest and you can grow your conscious that way when your senses, your conscious grow that way that micro and macro can change by using the conscious. you can turn such thing to oyur favor. but its deepst subject,

simply meditate on the photon fibres seen in close eyelids in meditation and move forward in the line of those fibres, you will have amazing experience. and if you wish these fibres as your subject you can do it more and try to explore them more and when you have habit you can if wish to change, you can do it with practice.

I been the student of conscious and I been able to feel aura easily and the weightage of energies in other person. conscious can be grown to higher levels very fast by growing your feeling aboutthe objects.

If you have your ascension, you can feel and see others energy field or aura field through conscious and inner eyes....

Demon loves you,thank you for your imput but I would like you to think about what you said...You say it isnt torsion..ok.well let me ask,what force would allow consciousness to do what it does? There has to be a force or vibrational frequency that would allow for it.And inn light of your post,while you might have studied enlightenment,and are enlightened,I am inclined to believe that you dont quite understand what the torsion is all about and the implications behind it..Do you know of the Akashic record?
That aside,I am wondering with electric people,would you say it is an imbalance? Or an inability to control a high kinetic energy level or something?
Static excluded of course..I would love to hear your thoughts on that.

LOL dab..easy boi,easy...I hear what youre saying ..but lets save that one for another disscussion k?

Its not the torsion its wrong term... you can say its moulding or changing to desired achievements. torsion means twisting harshly and psychic achievements are achieveed in ease and not in strain. its my opinion only. yes conscious is expansioun of sences and its powerful most in silence. its above mind and intellact its tool... and controlled by crown of the person.

Well pulsing of energy into light or electro magnetic field and using that to beam throguh and gaining desired result is ascension. while person do not twist the energies but move forward to swwk the answers or gain the goals, conscious is strongest part of human act and through conscious process human goes on psychic bascs and get grown and there are other exerciess in the field of reiki, astrology, woodoo and the breaking syphers (akashik records), vision and hypnotizm... and many more... coz conscious helps you invoke al seven chakras... well my room's light is off my family sleeping behind me thus please ignore grammer and spelling mistakes.

plz read swwk as seek, key board is 12 inches beneath the monitor and monitor is ray defused.

There could possibly be but its the same as evrytihng else out there, jsut because we don't see it doesn't mean its not true...Be open-minded!

yay im ont the only one...but seriously stuff lives and happens everyday that we do not see...that doesn't mean it doesn't exist or that it never happened...

Thought I included that link..here go.
http://www.rexresearch.com/torsion/torsion7.htm

Exactly,and I for one would like to find solid evidence of it being possible,beyond claimed accounts.
Do you have problems with electricity?

IF i get pissed my lights blow up but thats about the only problem with my electricity...Ive ruined like 2 laptops because of that...I short out things when I'm mad...oops...

Solid evidence may not be exactly what you want...to be forewarned...

Ok..So it seems to be an angry thing for you.
Thanks for your imput.
And yes,good hard evidence is what Ive been after.At least evidence to what could cause this.

Forwarned? ..please clarify?

I was not angry at all this is my way extracting input to the meximum from others so that we can seek the subject. you have clarified and you are my elder to the subject....

I saved this whole page as text file. well here 12 midnight passed already. i will read all the links carefully and grow upon when am empty and in mood...

thanks for that


Goodnight.



enlightenment is spiritual term makes satisfy overall, I can never satisfy and after retirement 25 years later, I will try kundalini awaking...

Oh no,Demonlovesyou,you misunderstand..my reply was in regards to MC's post "Solid evidence may not be exactly what you want...to be forewarned..."
I want to understand what she means by that.
But your imput has been great,and again,thank you for all you are willing to share.:)

This subject is fascinating but unfortantely i dont know anything about this. i am learning through others though

hmm i have never heard of this but i will see into it sound extremely interesting

Now i tell you about kinetic energy...

earlier i was growing in the line of energy and reading one note and due ot one's suggestion, I did try t t make one energy ball. earlier my eergy bal and energy capsule were conscious generated. but this time i tried to move my energy and this try did move kinetic energy and sparked in my hand and in palm few time and this was enough for pain and stun hand for several hours...

my half done excoricsm concentrated pull ofany spirit from sphere did tripped the switch two time and afterthat in third time blew that zero power bulb. I dont know is that other energy of the sphere or what. I frightened and left the process in middle andnever try again.

Have you ever tried directing your kinetic energy Demonlovesyou?Or anyone else?For those who seem to manifest when angry,have you ever shoked anyone you were angry at?

Wow. Very interesting. I have never heard anything on these people. Electric people.... Can Asian monks do some of the same things???

Nope...

But my total psychic energies i tried in anger...

I tell you the thing.

My one soul person, complained me that her bf beating her like mad and even kicks her... she hate him and he is so cruel even gives wounds...


This made me upset...

One night those days before sleep, I set on sample exercise of astral visit...

just that time the incidence came in my mind...

again my inner became upset.

I did try aura seek in the anger when I saw him, I threw a little energy so that he does not disappear from vision. that throw, speadily one fyre beam spilled from my hand and the ray beam was created with this and went into him and still the beam was there connecting us and this was probable the beam which locked the target before act. and now i did ot care if he disappeared coz i had to throw my all energy with the curse in, in the line of the beam only. I was just made stuff punitive unacceptable and damaging to him, just was prepared to throw it, one nice angel appeared in between nearer to him in between us and stood on between us and smiling at me. and the red beam to that person was through that angel and this made me drop the idea of throwing energy at him and still she was standing there and smiling at me.

I asked this to my one friend elder in the field she suggested me that that angel might be his guardian angel.

It was in same subconscious state in which i do always astral travels and that night i could not do the astral visit.

Hmm, Oceanne, I have never read anything about the torsion effect until now. I am interested in learning more about it. So will follow the thread. I guess I have always just figured it dealt more with the static electricity within a persons body.

Asian Monk... Ha-ha these explaination of so called advanced western psions they do call them self electric peepal, Asian culture always believed in psych be used i peaceful person... what you wish to receive from Asian monks.. Reiki? Tarrot ? Akashik Records? (akash is hindi word means sky) hypnotizm...? did you asked your western masters of psychic field where their art came from... did west was so advance in the psychic activities after the destruction of atlantis.... even woodoo came from afrika.

if you wish to see real psychic advanc ment, you just lock the horn with hypnotist... It will demonstrate you what is the trataka and what is the spell and what is sphere breaking it is capable of breaking your cores too... by high conscious. you ask woodoo person what is the psychic advancement... they will show you the image capturing

ou just ask psions how they work energy into and spell on they will show you how the energy particles clutch your heads and they can play cores and spheres game here...

asian monks are capable of high psych... if you dont believe me go on exercises of high psych they will meet you astral in your meditation.... they will meet you in your focal exercises...
there spirits from whole world you will find in the meditation... jus do it on reguler basis... if you dont know the method.... go on swamij.com the soul is western... do respect every kin in the world.... he wll show you some realm... he is purely western carrying asian arts and ts all over the world before the destruction of atlantis.... just read the notes of Annie Besant She was great lady from USA.

Yes,but I should say here that meditation is not necessary in all of this.Some use ritual,some meditation and peeps are able instantaneously achieve frequencies needed to do whatever it is they are wanting to do.

I've read some article 'bout quantum physics linking science and what we call paranormal. although i,ve not been able to grasp it's entire concept, but from what i've understood, in an atomic scale, there is quite a distance from the nucleus to the electrons orbiting them... most matter is a result of "electron interaction" since it is the only part of an atom that is naturally free flowing( correct me if im wrong )...I think that we all have inherent capabilities to be " electric people" its just a matter of degrees...I think...

well all deep rituals uses meditation (concentration )

Kirlian concenpt of aura and energy field i have read a little ago and its al natural and its explained in chapter aura too and in the prana it detailed as life force necessary. the light circle cover not only the skull but whole body too. If you wis to have basic literature on krilian field of light around us.... I have book you can read it. its shown in detail with the photo in the ebook (pdf file)

I would love to trade information sources Demon,thank you.That offer stands for you as well.:)

"well all deep rituals uses meditation"
Perhaps that is true,but not everyone who get results use ritual.

Its, actually true and I have a multimeter to prove the point.. I get shocked off of everything too. Have a really hard time with electrical devices. My cell phones very rarely make it to 6 months. I am not sure how it relates to auras, or to healing, except I can always feel other peoples engergy or vibes so to speak. I have done work with my family in healing migraines and other various small illneses so I guess there probably is a lot to the fact, but, I honestly can say I have never researched it...

those time the quantum science was too there. yes quantum science has both aspect... coz its related to other planes too and other planes (hyper planes) are part of psychic science. there are many vermi-holes too in the Galaxy f any object fal in the vermi-hole... within quantum of time it been forced to g to other part of gallaxy or the universe... it gives trans even if star fall in vermi-hole, the star is flown to other side of gallaxy or universe. this is through vermi-holes. the speed of those objects fell in vermi-hole, boost to quantum automatically. these are dark energies and fields round around in he universe...

Yet you stated there was no Torsion...But I see now you understand how it fits?

psychic science? I was under the impression that that would be metaphysics

I will give you in greeting coz i am not the bok writer nor I have time to work on these concenpt just read and kept in my mind to use some time I always sample test the exercises to keep with me tat in free time it may be used by me in the future...

just if you wish to have the book you can give me your email address in the messages i will transfer you from my pc.

I have many psychic books i have not purchased but got in gift from friends.

I will send you the index of books with me too.

Do you agree that physics, and metaphysics are two separate concepts entirely?

well.. the basic and simple meaning of torsion means bending harshly or benting it harshly

harsh represent the tension in the matter and psych start from ease it ca be moulded easily but not harsly so if iti is moulded easily its not torsion its moulding.

I did try to say this and not objecting the research of those greats and elders. I am not the person who point out the peepal who working in the field from away as gump that this fellow working madly for no result.

I know those who dancing in the vacuum always hear the music of their inner and I am not going to say they are mad, coz I will be mad if say this coz i dont hear the music.

well I love t read them. I have few book of Russian schollers they are great and phd of the field. and the boks are amazing. I love them.

Those are great books.

Exactly,and if it is true that thought can bend reality,then yes,it is "bent" by one's will.

Meaning of physics is :

NOUN: 1. (used with a sing. verb) The science of matter and energy and of interactions between the two, grouped in traditional fields such as acoustics, optics, mechanics, thermodynamics, and electromagnetism, as well as in modern extensions including atomic and nuclear physics, cryogenics, solid-state physics, particle physics, and plasma physics.

Physics (from the Greek, φυσικός (physikos), "natural", and φύσις (physis), "Nature") is the science of Nature in the broadest sense. Physicists study the behavior and properties of matter in a wide variety of contexts, ranging from the sub-microscopic particles from which all ordinary matter is made (particle physics) to the behavior of the material Universe as a whole (cosmology).

The scientific study of matter, energy, motion, and force. (From a Greek term meaning "the science of nature.")

The quantity of matter which a body contains, irrespective of its bulk or volume. It is one of four fundamental properties of matter. It is measured in grams in the SI system of measurement. Note Mass and weight are often used, in a general way, as interchangeable terms, since the weight of a body is proportional to its mass (under the same or equal gravitative forces), and the mass is usually ascertained from the weight. Yet the two ideas, mass and weight, are quite distinct. Mass is the quantity of matter in a body; weight is the comparative force with

and many more...








meaning of Metaphysics:

Simple Meaning of MetaPhysics is Beyond the Physical.

Whereever Met-a- is used before the noun that means beyond that term.

–noun (used with a singular verb) 1. the branch of philosophy that treats of first principles, includes ontology and cosmology, and is intimately connected with epistemology.
2. philosophy, esp. in its more abstruse branches.
3. the underlying theoretical principles of a subject or field of inquiry.
4. (initial capital letter, italics) a treatise (4th century b.c.) by Aristotle, dealing with first principles, the relation of universals to particulars, and the teleological doctrine of causation.


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[Origin: 1560–70; < ML metaphysica < MGk (tà) metaphysiká (neut. pl.), Gk tà metà tà physiká the (works) after the Physics; with reference to the arrangement of Aristotle's writings]

met·a·phys·ics (mět'ə-fĭz'ĭks) Pronunciation Key
n.
(used with a sing. verb) Philosophy The branch of philosophy that examines the nature of reality, including the relationship between mind and matter, substance and attribute, fact and value.
(used with a pl. verb) The theoretical or first principles of a particular discipline: the metaphysics of law.
(used with a sing. verb) A priori speculation upon questions that are unanswerable to scientific observation, analysis, or experiment.
(used with a sing. verb) Excessively subtle or recondite reasoning.


[From pl. of Middle English methaphisik, from Medieval Latin metaphysica, from Medieval Greek (ta) metaphusika, from Greek (Ta) meta (ta) phusika, (the works) after the Physics, the title of Aristotle's treatise on first principles (so called because it followed his work on physics) : meta, after; see meta- + phusika, physics; see physics.]

And the point of that post in relation to the question is what guys.

Cause call it what you will,it doesnt matter...the way to prove it exsists will be straight up physics..because for one ,its natural.
Physical and non physical is nothing but a perception issue.

If it exists,it does.Thats physical.No matter its nature.

Then it should be visible, or measurable in the physical spectrum.

I agree.And I have no doubt that we will come up with a way to do just that.IF it is there.Mankind hasnt reached the end of his discoveries although it might appear that way.

I have never heard of electric people but that information is all to confusing i wouldnt be believing it.

Ye,it is all confusing at times but you simply have to sort thru it,and it did begin to turn away from the subject,but all in all,Im sure theyre out here,but as to what degree,or what purpose it would serve,Im not sure.

well tomorrow I am going to the stes mentioned in thine posts. but it all is ascension it means pulsing of energy in to light field to liked direction. its not bending or benting harshly...

yes when you are in subconscious you can see it clearly if you wish. for this conscious growth and aura watching at must be in your hand.

it can be seen easily in subconscous position.

but not t do this coz whatyou will gain doing this... f you wish to make your directions with in own ligt than you learn it coz going forward in the direction of light spilled from inner boost your level of subconscious but it make you drown so balance in the latent and subconscious state is necessary so dont go for it in single day develop it by meditation over a period or your hours will be sunk if you do for 30 minutes it will eat your active mind ( it give you puzzle of feeling sunk or drown in water )

I did not say it for ascensiion or the torsion methods bu i did said for growing subconscious state for 30 minutes long open eye.

Well I did love always astral visit.

and astral visitors always travel in phantom.

and in the astral vsit they do use ascension and what you said torsion the kirlian way of explained the light field.

in each field the ascension is used...


I here state few part of notes on neergy field.

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Energy Bodies & Non-Human Intersections
Energy fields extend beyond the organic bodies of all living things, as has been demonstrated by Kirlian photography, which, by the addition of certain electromagnetic fields near a photographic plate, enhances the ability of film to register these innate energies. But these are, by definition, electromagnetically-enhanced views of these auras. The auras themselves are not wholly electromagnetic. Another sort of living substance, called by the original Soviet researchers "bioplasma," is visually enhanced by the Kirlian technique. In certain of these photos one can clearly see the orange energy present when a "healer" is extending energy from her fingertip and the absence of that particular energy when the fingertip is at rest.

Additionally, missing parts of organic structure will "fill in" under specific electromagnetic illumination, manifesting "phantom" bridge images which duplicate the missing part. The electro-bioplasmic aura may represent or be "woven with" the subtle matter ancient systems of yoga call "prana" (life energy) and more recent Western occult systems call "astral" energy.
As this research demonstrates, our subtle energy fields extend well beyond the visible physical shape of the body and, thus, our sensory and sensory/cognitive capacities also extend beyond the brain/body mechanism in a very real physical sense. Thus, our intelligent "reflex" actions may precede any rational or analytical registry in the brain. This can be seen in such activities as dowsing with a pendulum or rods and the use of the Ouija planchette. In both of these activities, physical results are obtained which are interpreted later by the percipients as having significant meaning.
How do telepathic or anomalous events attributed to ET or Advanced Interdimensional Intelligence (angels, spirit guides or demons) differ from other types of telepathic directive - which may come from living people, animals or spirits of people or animals? How do the percipients distinguish Advanced Guidance from Mundane Guidance?
Foolish Awe
A sense of presence of an awe-inspiring or controlling force which is comprehended as "beyond mundane understanding" leads to the feeling by the percipient of being "foolish." The ancient wisdom of the Tarot represents this state of mind as a fool with one foot off the cliff, mysteriously poised, while a dog (representing non-human forces of harassment) nips at his bare buttocks. But the Tarot "fool" is going forward, eyes aloft toward the future rather than the lower-level nipping past, regardless of annoyance or future peril. Also, the Tarot card of the "Hanged Man" shows another sort of cosmic fool, held upside down by one foot by a rope descending from the sky. In this process, the individual suspended by cosmic forces tries to make the best of this situation by pointing one toe gracefully heavenward, as if toe-dancing upside down. Reverse the position of this card. From the overview of the "powers that be" this is an ordinary ballet pose.
From the observer's point of view, the behavior of the "telepathically guided" individual will often seem erratic or foolish because the individual is not moving solely by reflex/ response to external stimuli mutually perceived in the material continuum. Rather, the "foolish" individual is moving in response to external stimuli (directly telepathic or prescient), which arrive to a variety of senses from multidimensional timespace, including future, unknown and distant material locations, as well as the "dreamtime."



Well now I tell you what the above part of notes are.

its our energy used in subtle in bridging the plazma or the path to the desired result is called the torsion by you coz its bridging the path to target in subtle and improving own conscious. you just see this whole as meditator's way or astral traveller's way the light field you through and after that you get actual plane of astral in reaching to desired result your inner your subtle your subconscious bridging the path with electro magnetic pulsing to reach there. this you call torsion and we call ascension coz we move forward and you narrate its by bending the plazma forcefully. even when you give a spin to your astral body to get subconscious boost when you are astral to stay longer, it too does not bent or bend the energy field coz eergy and plazmas are most flexible as air and water. it can go state or moulded in the waves of your own subconscous force or cosmic force, it do not get anytig harshly. even those plazmas are captured in black hole, its not the harshness coz the nature of light plazma itself is the soft and so why it travel from the core of the sun by colliding so many time and so many days toreach srface of the sun and turn in to photons and thrown against the gravity of the sun which reach here 8 minutes later the photon fibre is thrown.

hubble telescope uses the infrared to seek the stars...

Thanks for your imput Demon.
And yes,it does bend and flow as water..one does not need to use force to bend it.But then again,it can be powerful it takes a certain..strength to asend.If it sisnt,everyone would have no problem doing it.
Ascesion or Torsion,call it either,I l feel it could the same field and waves that allow for any of this kind of thing to happen.
It is what it is no matter its name.

Oh,a word Demon..you must include the link to where you copy and paste any information that you have not written yourself.

So bottom line,do you feel this Torsion or acendence is responsible for the ele peep phenomenon?

It is as powerful as it control othe minds and as powerful as it can take away lives. It can be as powerful as if oyu are that level sacred, elelments does help you to get your path.

I tell you one true happenings...

My former prime minister Jawaharlal Nehru once programmed and visited bhutan in Tibet. there the visit to one cave monk was programmed coz he was among divine most buddhist monks. but the eve to vist there, the weather went violent and started storming the ice & rainfall. and even next day the helicopter flight was not possible... as the time to flight came to that monk the meeting was aboutto cancel, suddnely the ice storm calmed as if storm not came. and the helicopter flew to the cave monastery and as soon as peepal enetered the cave and nehru metthe monk, storm again started as it is. Nehru surprised on it... the monk smiled and told that he requested to he nature that your visit do not spolied.

I like the story and understand..thank you.

Don't really enough about it to give a full comment. But please don't let near me. I have enough I get shocks every time I go shopping by the trolleys the shelves basket other people and I stop watches after a couple of days.

its true incidence and not the man made story. its as true as the appearance of the powerful ghosts in the night which is not explained by the science.

I believe that it is said to be a true story,I know of many accounts like it which are supposed to be true too.
But unlike you,I feel that if the nature of the Torsion fields and waves are as proposed,science will finally have an explaination for it.

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