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If a Vampire lost there fangs would they die?
Could the teeth grow back unlike our adult teeth?
Could they cut their victim to feed? Wouldn't that take awhile tho?
Do their teeth not fall out??
What do you think? What are opinions on this?
I'm very curious about this




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Oh and do their fangs represent their pride as a vampire?



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No, I don't think they would grow back. After all vampires are dead! it wouldn't stop them from feeding either. Straight razors! lol



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Well would they go to the dentist to get a false set made?? That would be funny but if their sharp enough wouldn't they work?



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LOl great thought. A vampire with dentures. "I can't feed tonight I still haven't bought any denture grip" LOL. I guess if they exist that is quite possible lol. An especially feisty victim knocks his fangs out.



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I don't think the actual event of losing their fangs will cause them to die. They would just have to use their incisors to tear the flesh off their victims. The vampire wouldn't die, but losing their fangs would suck(haha, bad pun) 'cause then feeding would be a lot less messy.



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I could just imagine a Vampire say that they can't feed right now that their dentures will fall out!! wow LMAO



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i once saw a movie were the head vamp pulled out the fangs of a underling who had done wrong!!! they didnt grow back and he had to live in disgrace!!! but he didnt die!



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As I understand, a vampire regenerates any part of themselves that is damaged/hurt. I would think that theire fangs would grow back.



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I also believe since they can heal they can also regenerate teeth, but I dont think they really need them to feed considering I believe blood goes down the throat-hole.



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Assuming you're talking Hollywood vampires here

I don't know if they would regrow because the vampire is supposed to be dead ... but they also heal most non-fatal wounds so I guess they would simply grown back

I know on one of the Blade films, they took a vampires fangs to show that the vamp had been killed, I guess it shows that you can't take the fangs from a live one

On the 'Interview with a vampire' film, one of them sliced their victim with a sharp ring thing and slurped at the wound.

So, to answer you question, no ... I don't think it would cause them to die, they would find another way to drink blood or would regrow them



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hmmm i am not sure i think they would grow back it is a necessity for them to feed well not a necessity but yeah.... also i think its pride without their fangs its like they lost a huge part of their being their a vampire you think vampire you see fangs but it would kill them they wouldnt die



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In tthe role playing Genre the fangs when taken are a form of aggravated damage, damage that places a vampire in torpor (an extended suspension of animation. It would take an out side factor to replace the fangs.



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If a Vampire lost there fangs would they die?

Depends on if they had access to an alternative food source [of blood] seeing as they wouldn't be able to bite effectively.



Could the teeth grow back unlike our adult teeth?

No.



Could they cut their victim to feed?

Probably



Wouldn't that take awhile tho?
Not really, no.


Do their teeth not fall out??

No sir'y



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I dought there teeth would fall out, and they would not grow back. cutting to feed is actualy a lot easyer than you think. i don't think lossing your fangs would kill you but yeah it would probley hurt your pride



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A vampire losing his/her fangs, possibly killing them....An interesting notion. I am not exactly sure, since I haven't been able to study such an event, but I think they may feel a blow to their pride, seeing as they lost a piece of what makes them who they are, but not so much as some might think. True, it may be possible for such a thing to happen, but it would be possible to get a new set of permanent fangs, but, as stated before, the fact that they lost their fangs would still seem a disgrace and dishonorment to them and to others.

On the subject of "killing" the vampire in such a way, the only way I can think of killing one this way is maybe killing them on the inside. Just think, if something happened to.......say.....make all of your hair fall out, would you die in a literal sense, or perhaps in an emotional/personal integrity kind of way.

A vampire losing his fangs, an interesting notion indeed, but to die from something like it...No.

However, it
would be somwhat funny. But then again, I do have a weird sense of humor.


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no I donot think they would die, amny instruments to cause holes in skin available, and with dentists office making false teeth, maybe they would get a set of new ones. lol



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ND1 I like the way you put it.... I guess thats what i was trying to say but didn't come out right when i posted it lol
Plus my mom came up with the question but i thought it was funny A Vampire without teeth or getting false one's LOL



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well in hollywood anything is possible. Guess it would make a story line on how they needed to wait to feed till thier fangs grew back in



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Hollywood vamps, I dont think it would kill them. traditionally the only way to kill a hollywood vamp has been stake in the heart, cut off the head, fire or exposure to sunlight. All of the movies I've ever seen a vamp has had "miraculous speed healing" and I would think that their fangs would grow back given that the vampire wasn't other wise disposed of before given that chance.



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BlackHawk -



What if their fangs didn't grow back? What would they do then?



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ok a vampyre will die the sameway any human will die are bodys our mortal our souls are not



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i dont think there teeth would fall out but if they did im sure they could just get like vampire dentures or somthing.



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They'd probably be pretty indestructible, if they were necessary to survival. Maybe they're stronger than typical teeth.

If they did fall out though, I don't see why they couldn't just stab their victims in the jugular...



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Concidering not every vamp out there is a blooddrinker, but say for arguements sake they were, no they wouldnt die with many different ways to extract blood from their prey



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now that serves a very interesting guetion to your topic my anwer is this if a vampire had no fangs it would not be worth living and if he was to live he would be known as an out cast to other Vampires



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I think they would never lose them , after all , everything comes from the fangs!



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Since vampires don't grow. I really don't think that their fangs would grow back.



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i like what wink said, they could just go to the dentist, that would be intresting "Hi, i would like some fangs put in to replace the ones i had fell out..."



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Whatever the author wants to happen will happen; tons of different vampire rules out there :)



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Lynsay Sands actualy wrote a book, where the vampire loses his tooth in a fight and has to get to a dentist befor sun rise to get it re atached or he will always have just one fang...



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Epik -


If they were indeed indestructable, couldn't they be bent somehow?


Also, ... the jugular thing ... epic.



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as many know, the jugular is the main vain in the neck, and as you know with out there teeth they are going to have some trouble punctuing it.

but if there teeth we that strong, would you mean there are as strong as perhaps titanium?



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xXShadowDravenXx -


''as many know, the jugular is the main vain in the neck, and as you know with out there teeth they are going to have some trouble punctuing it.''


This is not necessarily true. It would be possible for the vampire to puncture it with other teeth other than the two normally used for biting. Although, admittedly, it would be rather hard.



''but if there teeth we that strong, would you mean there are as strong as perhaps titanium?''


I'm thinking if they were indeed 'indistructable' it would be something close to a mixure of the resistance of many metals. That would make sense in a way.



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it is possible to puncture the skin with other teeth, but to do so would cause more pain to the person the vampire is feeding off.



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Normally a vampire wouldn't care, would they? Since they need the blood to survive, they usually end up killing the prey.



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not all vampires just kill there victoms, some actualy have remorse and care for there doners. it is not all about blood fome me stuff the human. ok i think we are kinda going off subject, would a vamp with out fangs die, no



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In the Vampire Chronicles vampires kind of just regenerated after being hurt in some way. The hair would grow back every night to the length it was when they turned and such. I imagine that's what would happen.



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That's why I said usually.

Leads me to think what would happen if a vampires teeth broke off while feeding.



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Vampires don't necessarily have fangs. Psychic, or pranic, vampires feed off of energy and not blood. Vampires, sanguine vampires, that is, aren't another species, they are humanesque. They do not have fangs like the movie vampires. Sanguine vampires, that feed off of the life force through the blood, do not bite someone to get said blood. It would hurt like hell because again, their teeth aren't naturally any sharper than a regular human's. Donors are chosen, and a vein is cut, or a hollow needle inserted into a vein, draining it of the amount necessary to the vampire, or agreed on by both parties.

Vampires don't have a fang to lose, so it certainly couldn't cause their death. Actually, a sanguine vampire could still survive if they had dentures! :)



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I don't think it would kill a vamp to not have the k9's they would just have to go about feeding in different ways. I would assume cutting would have to be from willing members unless the vamp wants to kill the person then they can just slit the throat and have at it... I don't think that would be the case though vamps are not killing machines anymore. There are more people who are friendly to the vampire factor that there is no need to kill for food. If all else a blood bank is an option. But the easiest way would be to have a donor of your own. Someone they trust.

I can see it hindering things a lot for a vamp but if anmimals can adapt in the wild to having broken limbs and teeth I think vamps have good idea of what to do so they can survive!! :)



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Interesting question and any author would be wise to see the comments so as to add a dilemma to the vampire myth that is popular and believable in the vampire book world.

Practical answer: as noted above the need to feed would be simply over powering and a tool used thus making the detectives thing it was a wanabee serial killer…. Please pay my part in making your best seller book lol

On a theological view…. The fangs are sexual and represent the penetration and lose of innocence. So Dracula would have an issues with his mojo taken away. However being Dracula who can never die would just grow them back as he is the true phantom we all fell in love with once.



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theres more than one way to skin a cat. I dont think "fangs" are necessary to feed.



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what a fun question!

i'd like to believe the 'hollywood' vampires rely on their fangs and would have some serious trouble without them....

but there are just too many ways to open a vein and realistically fangs are not so much a necessity as a cosmetic symbol
which i do believe is a source of pride as well as an identifying mark for any vampire



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No, I don't believe not having fangs would cause a vampire to die. There are many ways to feed in which they would survive.



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He/ she would still be a vampire, just disgraced or have to use others ways of feeding like razors.. I do think fangs are a pride thing though. It is like a vampire calling card.



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Undervampsgaze -

What if there are vampires would don't have fangs naturally? But they still manage to feed?



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Hopefully the vampire has enough blood stored to regenerate fangs. I checked on the Vampire card, and it indeed states the vampire takes aggravated damage, and goes into torpor, another vampire must replace the fangs with an action. Plus I am sure it would take away from that charming smile vampires count on.



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I guess if vampires do have fangs, and they lose them, the only thing that will happen is they will have a very degrading smile.



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If the teeth really fall , do you think they would bleed????!??



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Ryba thats a good question... i think they might but i don't know



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vampires are supposed to be able to grow limbs and other parts of the body that they have lost so one would assume that their teeth would grow back if they was removed in some way...



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MichaelxArc -



Where exactly did you hear that? That's not something I've read about in any of the myths I've read and heard.



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And RYBAXXX -



Vampires are supposedly undead. So they're like a zombie with no actual blood flow. If they do have blood it's probably coagulated and therefore wouldn't be able to flow.



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Since we're talking fiction here I would have to say they'd just regenerate them just like they heal themselves.


A vampire talking with a lisp and unable to do the sexy neck bite thing? Tragedy.


Regeneration...most definitely.



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AnimeKikei, Thank you for the compliment, but I really just tried to look at it from a realistic point of view. I mean, if someone lost all of their hair, but then got a wig to make it look like they hadn't, they wouldn't have severe health problems (unless that's what caused the loss), but they would feel the loss and possibly feel LESS than they really are on the inside.
Just knowing that something about yourself can make you feel down or less appreciative about yourself, and, in a way, a small part of you may die from the lowered self-esteem/self image/or whatever you want to call it.


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dont think they would grow back
like stated they are supposed to be dead lol
dontthink it would kill them
unless they die of hurt pride xP
like stated by shadowxdraven
why not get dentures it works right ;]]



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True, all too true, but they might end losing all respect and honor amongst the vampire community that they reside in. For all we can guess, a vampire getting false teeth could lead to his/her death by other vampires because they decided to "fake" having fangs. It could be seen as a sign of disrespect for the species, and even to any possible elders or masters that might be in the area.


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but that would have to be an oppinion
to automatically asume theyd be casted out
because they lost theyre fangs
i can unless they pulled theyre own fangs out
then that would be a disrespect to his own kind
but if it wasnt on purpose
i dont see why it would be disrespectful
or anything to shame that person for



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your welcome ND1, In my opinion which i should have said earlier LOL but all well, I think their pride would be hurt so bad that they might commit suicide or other clan members might kill them for loosing their fangs...



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I believe they would grow back if someone managed to take them out. Because considering how much strength your(hollywood) vamp has it would be one hell of a fight.



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Did you know that if you are bitten with dentures then you could get tetanus???....Not sure why its just what doctors have said.... Few things..... Seems like you're all talking about the fictional vampires.... Well they seem to be able to grow back arms so one would assume they can grow back a few teeth.... Also, how can someone call a vampire the living dead when something cant be alive and dead at the same time??? Kinda contradicts its self doesn't it?



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lol it does
but thats the great thing about hollywood
i wouldnt consider vampires living dead
i mean they are supposably dead
but everything grows
id think teeth would too
and if you can consider a tree living
why not a vampire :]]



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It would suck to not have fangs for a vampire. Though i really doubt they would die.



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The fangs won't grow back. The vampire will not die, but would be effectively castrated as a vampire. All that matters is that blood is consumed, so a razor blade can substitute the fangs.



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No. They would just find some other way to feed.

As for them growing back.... I really have no clue on that one.


As for pride. Yes I think that if a Vampire lost their fangs it would hurt their pride. Just like if a human lost all their teeth. That's is embarrassing to them.



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there must be a dentist in the whole world that would for the right price fit someone with long canines. no who am i trying to kid, dentists dont care about money. haha.



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If your speaking of the vampires of myth I would say they would not die and they would not grow back. In most myths yes they can heal great wounds but if something gets completely severed it's gone and that would be similar to severing a limb.

As for hollywood/fictional vampires again in most cases they would not die and in most cases would not grow them back for the same reason as above. In some cases depending on the author they might grow back because in some stories everything but the head can be severed and regrown or reattached.

For a few hollywood/fictional vampires it might be fatal because they are not undead like in "the breed" or "ultraviolet" so they could possibly though not likely bleed out if not treated.

None would die from not being able to feed, there's to many easy ways to get at the blood. Plus if it's a modern vampire they could get new artificial fangs permanently surgically implanted a much better choice than dentures.



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As real "vampires" do not have nor ever had fangs and as real vampires do not drink blood... the question is yet another fiction-motivated non sequitur.

"The weird thing is, in actual panics, where people thought the 'vampire' was right there and active, there are almost no stories about blooddrinking."

- http://www.sanguinarius.org/articles/vampdef.shtml (emphasis added)



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I don't think the vampire would die and insofar if it would grow back or not I think it would because a vampire can regenerate any part of their body.



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Supposedly a vampire regenerates everything, I would assume, fangs, aswell.



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On a statement above on losing pride because they lost their teeth.... I could see them losing pride over such a an ordeal if they couldn't grow the fangs back.



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upir exactly what do you mean by "real vampires"? It's also interesting to note the organization you sited until fairly recently promoted blood drinking.



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It is my belief and experience that when a vampire lays down to rest for the day, they return to the state they were in when they were turned.
Example:

A female cuts her hair from the middle of her back to shoulder length and trims her nails from and inch to 3/4 inch during the night, when she awakens the next evening, her hair is long again and her nails look like they haven't been trimmed.



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o.O you've actually seen that or do you mean in a movie or book?



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Wolvie:

If a discussion on what historically constitutes "real vampires," I welcome you to read my profile front page dedicated to that very topic and backed by the actual historical accounts. As you will discover for yourself, the Slavic Vampire (the very archetype, itself) had nothing to do with blood drinking and did not have fangs.

And yes, isn't it ironic that a website whose very name, loosely translated, means "blood-drinker," and yet acknowledges that historically when the "vampire" was reportedly active, almost no stories of blood drinking are found.



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I was just wanting the context in which you were using the term and yes you are correct in that in the historical myths there was no proof or actual accounts of blood drinking in most cases. It was a false assumption based on symptoms of people with illnesses that people mistakenly believed at the time to be victims of vampires. Many people that died of "consumption" at that time were believed to be victims of a vampire and it was assumed that they had been drained of their blood because the closer they got to death the more pale they became. That was not the only disease that gave that appearance or that caused a belief that the person was a victim of a vampire but it was on of the most common. If you watch the old Dracula movies, Dracula did not acquire fangs until he was played by Peter Cushing. There were some myths of vampires having sharp teeth and or fangs because of their "demonic" nature. More than likely these were from story embellishments. It became popularized by Hollywood. From a practical stand point it would be very difficult at best to make 2 perfect punctures in a vein or artery with fangs. The modern portrayal where the vampire rips out at least part of the throat would be more likely and that could be accomplished with normal human teeth. There's a really good book called "The science of vampires" I forget the author but it is listed in the VR database. It explains how a lack of knowledge about diseases and what happens to a corpse after burial helped lead to the vampire myths.



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Quote:
"Wolvie:

If a discussion on what historically constitutes "real vampires," I welcome you to read my profile front page dedicated to that very topic and backed by the actual historical accounts. As you will discover for yourself, the Slavic Vampire (the very archetype, itself) had nothing to do with blood drinking and did not have fangs.

And yes, isn't it ironic that a website whose very name, loosely translated, means "blood-drinker," and yet acknowledges that historically when the "vampire" was reportedly active, almost no stories of blood drinking are found."

wow, are you still trying to reeducate the masses on this...you must have the very patience of Buddha



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I would not expect it to die, but I would not see it as wanting to show it's face with other vampires anymore, having to resort to more 'primitive' methods of obtaining blood, methods that may seem barbaric to the sophisticated vampire society.



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well modern day vampires would survive indeed but maybe a hollywood vampire would starve if they lsot their fangs,now on myth..it is believed that all vampires have the ability to regenerate themselves so it is possible they would grow back jsut as fast as they fell out.



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NO vampires will not die if the lose there fangs it just will make feeding harder if there the blood sucking typ but then again they cam always buy blood by the galons at a local butcher store lol..



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Daermon - "wow, are you still trying to reeducate the masses on this...you must have the very patience of Buddha"


Hehehe... actually, I'm not on any campaign of re-education here. My profile page is sufficient to provide those interested in the truth a bit of an historical primer on the subject. After all, given the numbers of people here and the extent to which almost all rely primarily or even solely on the Media rather than research for information, such a "mission" would be as futile as it would be thankless. Only on occasions when a topic like this one, appears that bases its premise on a glaring falsehood re: the "vampire" might I choose to provide a bit of historical fact to help counter that fictional premise.



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Wolvie,

I have read about this and heard about it from many. I may not have noted this, however, it may not pertain to all vampires. Perhas only those who do in fact require blood to survive.



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Daermon, case in point... the previous entry's statement that some vampires "require blood to survive."

The fact is that the popular image of the vampire as a blood-drinker, based on the near-endless fictional portrayals of such in the Media, is too strong for any one person to attempt re-education thereof. ;)



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Ah ha! Very logical thinking and now ifeel stupid for not thinking of it first! Brava, mon amie!



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Dear TemptingDeath,

And I feel like a bit of a cad for that; and for that I do sincerely apologize. Please understand, it was not at all my attention to point your entry out... but instead to use it as only an example of what almost everyone naturally does here, and quite understandably so, and that is to consider as reality what we've been told about vampires by Hollywood and the many Anne Rices and Stephen Kings of the world. And the only way one can begin to discover the truth is by actually investigating the original Slavic accounts before the Bram Stokers of the world got hold of them. And your entry just happened to follow my latest point in that regard that illustrated that very point.

So... thank you for your thoughtful reply and, again, my apologies, mon ami. :)



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Oops... I meant "intention" rather than "attention." It's too late to be attempting coherent composition.



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Actually, that happened in a book - How To Marry A Vampire Millionaire, by Kerrilyn Sparks. The vampire would have been ridiculed for breaking or losing his fangs. The dead can't procreate, grow, or regenerate anything. So I would say although he would be a laughed at vampire, he wouldn't die, because there are always blood banks, razor blades, and many other options to get blood by.



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Dearest, it is nothing to apologize for. I did not feel persecuted by your comments. I enjoyed them. It is rare that i am pointed out in anything. Haha. No need for apologies, mon beau amie! ;)



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UpirLikhyj,

Not to sound as if I am disagreeing, or agreeing for that matter, but the way you are going about saying that some vampires are more real than others sounds to me that you don't believe that blood-drinking vampires exist. From the sounds of it, you seem to think that only documented accounts of some PARANORMAL event gives us the only historical information about vampires.
If you would do a little more research, you would find that there is historical documentation of blood-related vampires, such as Lady Elizabeth Bathory. True, she did bathe in blood rather than drink it, but she did display vampiric, or perhaps you would prefer cannibalistic, appetites. If you would to visit one of the sites I have found information on, here is the address.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/predators/bathory/9.html

I know that it may not be the best website, but it does have some interesting info. But I really just want to clarify, that although there are quite a few accounts of "vampiric activity", more so than there are lists of vampires, there are still vampires out there that may drink blood.
Just to make sure you understand, I am only saying that despite historical evidence, for this discussion's sake, what are the repercussions of a blood-drinking vampire with fangs losing his or her teeth?


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They would find a way to feed.....and if our (humans) teeth fall out, we dont die, so why would a vampires?

Do vamps have baby teeth? Like they fall out at some point and then thier permanent fangs grow in?



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I would say they would grow back in the day-sleep,
they would heal themselves through the day,

*Smiles*



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Well their fangs are retractable
who knows maybe they regenerate
just like they heal themselves.
good question



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they drink blood thats how they feed. the teeth just makes the wound for the body to bleed then they drink the blood. if a vampire loss its fangs there are otherways to get the blood out



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plenty of vampires buy their fangs, others are natural, some are pulled, in error like mine, for space issues....it's totally irrelivent....fangs do not make the vampire.



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hmm. dentures. fixodent helps, i hear. and if you can bite through an apple with fixodent, would human flesh be much harder?



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NyklDormir1 -

You are quite correct that I am indeed stating that real "vampires" do not drink blood and do not have fangs; only fictional vampires... and those posing as such... do. And I welcome you to provide any documented historical Eastern European account to the contrary (not .

Of course, as anyone can drink blood and wear fake fangs, to satisfy such a challenge the alleged "vampire" would also have to demonstrate the other equally fictional yet equally identifying "vampiric" characteristic: that of being an "undead" immortal.

As you also admitted, Countess Elizabeth Bathory was not a vampire simply for having had a sadistic blood-bath fetish. Nor was Vlad Tepes (Dracula) a vampire for his own sadisitc blood lust. And obviously, as both were later killed, neither was immortal.

And last, but hardly least, the fact remains that the first actual "vampire" in recorded history (namely "Upir Likhyj" whose very name means "Vampir") predates all actual vampire accounts by several hundred years. He wrote his name as such in 1047 CE... and was, himself, an Orthodox Christian priest! So... there goes the supposed fear of crucifixes, right there! Yet another completely fictional vampiric trait bites the dust. ;)

Look, no disrespect intended of course. Like you, I too enjoy the popular imagery of the blood-drinking, fang-wielding, undead-immortal vampire. I love the movies, the books... all of that! But let's please keep a healthy separation between what is real and what is fictional.

And obviously, I do believe there is a very deep and, frankly, far more intriguing truth about the "Vampire" than fiction could possibly imagine. However, that truth has nothing to do with fiction or the fictional "vampiric" characteristics found in such.

Thus... while for post-19th Century fictional vampires, fangs may be important. Yet for fictional vampires prior to that... and for any arguable definition of a real "vampire," fangs are and never were an actual trait thereof.




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According to historical fact or Hollywood, I do not see this as a cause of death for a vampire. However, in Babylonian myth vampires had iron teeth (fangs).



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Doru- what you mean iron fangs? real iron or is it just an expression?



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The only reference I can find to iron teeth and vampires is in regard to a West African supposedly "vampire"-like creature called an "Asasabonsam":

- Asasabonsam: W. African. Folklore of the Ashanti people. Asasabonsam are human looking vampires except that they have hooks instead of feet and iron teeth. The Asasabonsam are tree dwelling vampires that live deep in the forest. They sit in the tops of trees with their legs dangling down which enables them to catch their victims with their hooked feet. They tend to bite their victims on the thumb.


And this illustrates well the difficulty for those claiming that vampires are found world wide in that, as seen above, almost any mythological scary "boogie man" can be found to have at least one somewhat-"vampire" like trait... and is then instantly and foolishly labeled yet another form of "vampire."

If it rises from the dead, it must be a vampire. If it eats flesh and/or blood, it must be a vampire. If it only comes out at night (obviously, the most common form of "boogie man" given that few would be scared of a creature that only came out in sunlight!), it must be a vampire. And on and on it goes, without regard to the historical and sociological context of these imaginary buggaboos invented by all these worldwide cultures... all of whom look nothing like nor possess all the traits of the Slavic Vampire.

The simple point is that these are not "vampires." They are all scary monsters and the product of vivid religious and superstitious imaginations. And for obvious and to-be-expected reasons, the scariest of such will, of course, be the sort of "monsters" that come out only at night, preferably from the dead, have sharp teeth, and will eat you and/or drink your blood. It is this universal fear we all have that is the reason why so many such "monsters" will share a trait or two common to the -- again, fictional -- Slavic Vampire, just as the Slavic Vampire will share a trait or two of other worldwide monsters. However, this does not make them vampires any more than the Slavic Vampire could be classified as a type of [place name of any other culture's bloodthirsty monster here!].


Nevertheless, and to the point of this forum thread, the Asasabonsam does not have fangs, iron or otherwise; he/she/it has "iron teeth"... as in, all of them.




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The link to the "Asasabonsam" reference above in my previous entry can be found here:

http://stason.org/TULARC/education-books/vampires/10-What-types-of-vampires-are-in-existence.html


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