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MsSanguinarius
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Ever since Marie Osmond fainted last October on "Dancing With the Stars" it seems some type of negative energy has taken over Stage 46 at CBS Television City. Food poisonings, injuries, surgeries, blackouts are all becoming common place on the set. Even the show could not ignore what many people are calling a "Dancing" curse.

In a taped segment last night the show pointed out the spot on the floor, near the judges, which pro dancer Derek Hough has dubbed the Bermuda Triangle. It's where he was injured; Misty May-Treanor tore her Achilles tendon leading to her exit from the show and it's also where Susan Lucci twisted her ankle.

The curse was the hot topic backstage with Mel B after the show. Lance Bass is absolutely convinced something is wrong with the stage telling Mel, "I know it's cursed. Every major injury that has happened this season has been on this stage. Not in rehearsal. Right here on the stage."

Professional dancer Karina Smirnoff, who has had her own injury this season, told Mel she has a solution.

"I think they need to bring like a magic person or a priest or someone to bless it."


Her dance partner Rocci DiSpirito jokingly added, "We need an exorcism!"



So, is the stage really cursed? Common sense tells us 'of course not.' However, just to play a little bit of devil's advocate, I did some research about the history of CBS Television City, where the show is taped.

The ghostly details after the jump...

The facilities were built in 1952 but stage 46 didn't get built until the 1980's. So its history is pretty recent. However, if you look at the lot as whole I think you will find something interesting. The lot used to be the former site of Gilmore Stadium, an 18,000-seat football field and race track.

In the course of its history, five men lost their lives on the racetrack. In 1937, Frankie Lyons died of a broken neck after losing control at a slow speed and hitting a post while filming the movie "Ten Laps To Go." In October of 1934, Chet Mortemore died after a collision with another driver. In January of 1946, Swede Lindskog died when his car rolled head on into the fence of Gilmore Stadium. And in October (the month when most of "DWTS" mishaps have occurred) of 1949 Eddie Haddad died in a rollover crash.

OK, sure this is all just a little bit of Hocus Pocus but it does make you think doesn't it? Access Hollywood producer Stephanie e-mailed me when I told her the story about the race car drivers, "No wonder Helio the race car driver won. The race car drivers ghosts had their way!"

Helio won season five. Season five was the season where "the curse" first came into question. I'm just saying...


I am posting this story from this Source.

I just saw a story on Access Hollywood in reference to this. They had brought two actual mediums onto the stage and they both said they felt as if they knew several men had died there, at the area the dancers were getting hurt at. Referred to as the bermuda triangle. My question to you all is, first do you believe the stage is haunted and second, do you believe in ghosts and/or the presence or build up of negative energies can infact cause tragedies to happen. Such as the dancers falling or in another setting, perhaps a car accident or sudden sickness.





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10:45:09 Oct 23 2008
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I don't believe in ghosts for the same reason I don't believe in Leprechauns, gremlins, unicorns or 80-foot sand worms. There simply isn't any credible evidence to support such a belief.

So I guess it stands to reason that I don't think ghosts have anything to do with the events there. I do, however, think that if people believe they will be he victim of a tragedy, it helps to "set the stage" (so to speak), for a tragedy to occur, simply because some are not as inclined to operate under caution if they feel some peril is inevitable.



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12:29:17 Oct 23 2008
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I think in this case it sounds like a celeb attention seeking rather than anything else.



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13:14:03 Oct 23 2008
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I think we all seek concrete proof. I am not at all convinced by any of this.



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What is meant by "credible?" I think that idea is a little narrow. Read about Hans Holzer. Read about the life of the psychic behind the Ghost Whisperer. Talk to Danion Brinkley, lol. No one can absolutely prove such things. Not everyone will experience paranormal activity in their life time and some won't be sensitive to it. A cop out, maybe and I don't know why this is but true needless to say.

Obviously something has made all these people scared so why not have them do some sort of cleansing there. Maybe this will put it to rest whether real or imagined. People will feel safe even if it is only believed by some to be a little loony, what can it hurt?



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14:16:24 Oct 23 2008
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Real or imagined is quiet important to some people, though I understand what you are saying and why, what you suggest is a kind of paranormal placebo.



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15:04:54 Oct 23 2008
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Oh my goodness. That sounds ridiculous to me, personally.

I think you can chop it up to people trying to get 'good TV'. Whatever that means.

I would never in a million years attribute it to anything supernatural.



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20:43:18 Oct 23 2008
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Does anyone believe that area of the stage is potentially haunted and/or littered with negative energies


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When Amatuer dancers perform, fancying themselves more skilled then they actually are, perhaps lacking discipline (stretching, and development of tech.)then they are more prone to accident, rather then admit that they are not as "graceful" as they fancy themselves, they will take what ever out side "third party" dismissal they can get. Sets have been claimed haunted before. Usually on sets that had hostile crew issues, the haunting label used to dismiss the tensions. Sounds more like they would benefit from a Para-Psycologist then a Paranormalist.



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21:05:48 Oct 23 2008
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Fainting all by itself doesn't indicate a haunting, and accidents happen everywhere. Unless there is documented evidence of a residual energy, I am skeptical of it being anything more than a PR campaign.



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21:31:25 Oct 23 2008
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i don't know if that place is haunted or not. i think she fainted- that's it and that's all.



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21:45:46 Oct 23 2008
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I just checked and Ratings Dipped, the pressure to Bulk shows has been cutting into preperation, they have been rushing the shows crew, and contestants as well. A lot of these reality shows fight far beyond their "honeymoon phase".



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22:02:25 Oct 23 2008
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While I believe in ghosts or I should say that I am open to the possibility, in this case I don't think the stage is haunted. I think if you believe something negative will occur then you are setting yourself up for just that. Interesting read though.



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22:21:39 Oct 23 2008
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Re: "What is meant by 'credible?'"

In a case like this "credible" would mean something aside from coincidence and/or conjecture -- the one part missing from nearly every proclaimed paranormal situation -- objective evidence.


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A grain operation had a spike in worker accidents, one of the workers wifes mentioned the history of the farm that was on the site of the plant, and the number of "unexplained" deaths. So it was eventually dubbed haunted, some workers actually quite, because of near fatal accidents. A Paranormal investigator team was eventually brought in. After studying the plants, and interviewing the workers, they called in another type of investigator, an insurance investigator, they turned up the cause of the accidents in a week. The recently appointed maintence man was a getting drunk on the job. He had been connected with all the areas where accidents occured. All this was reveled, becuase someone went through the process of elimination. Once all common factors are ruled out, then fringe explainations are considered. The other way around..? Well you get astonishment before common sense.



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19:38:54 Oct 24 2008
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It's reality TV. I can't believe people would buy into a curse. If the ratings are in fact slipping, they'll spotlight anything they have to in keping viewers.


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While I agree with Dabbler, Beastt, and pumpkinking on this one, I also feel that there is the possibility that the soul or spirit of the one that died in the wrecks could be wondering the area restless looking for their resting places. If that makes since. I also feel that if you set it in your mind that negative things are going to happen then nagative things are going to happen.



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I think that usually things just happen. People have accidents, especially when they're doing dangerous things. Dancing on a shiny smooth floor can lead to you falling and hurting yourself. Eating food prepared by anyone could result in food poisoning. Riding on the back of an animal can result in you falling and being killed.

Things just happen.



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16:19:02 Oct 25 2008
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Im not going to endorse either way on this,but I do know that while workiing in the industry,we heard of all kinds of stuff..The Culver studios,Stage 5 at Paramount.The stories were endless.
My friend Billy,who incidently worked on pretty much every film made as the head projectionist,told me that while yes,there were always weird things that happened,he felt there where no spooks.Just the nature of the places.



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17:58:48 Oct 26 2008
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I believe in ghosts but not dancing with them
I believe they are here for a reason and to finish what happened to them to go back to their world.
Some are still in the lite for a reason



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19:58:45 Oct 26 2008
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I don't think I would call it haunted, but I do believe that the buildup of energy from tragic events can inhabit the area and make it more likely for accidents to happen.



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21:02:24 Oct 26 2008
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i agree with mobius. and i also do not think that particular stage is hunted. although my great grandmothers house is.

cause every morning i woke up there, i was slammed into the wall...that's how i was woken up. it hurt alot. i know it was a force cause no one but me was in the room, and, it was way too powerful for me to just bump into the wall.



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Although I do believe ghosts can exist, I don't think they do in this particular case.

Because it was a stadium, racing area, etc...there is a much higher probability of being hurt or killed than say...if a supermarket was there. Dancers getting hurt? Happens every single day. The more you dance, the more difficult the moves, the higher the chance of injury.


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Marie Osmond has also been dieting. She does the Jenny Craig commercials. It could be her fainting was due to not a Jenny Craig diet but a diet of some other sort.

It reminds me of the movie polergist where they stated the set was haunted and that is why so much had happened.

Hollywood fact or realty one will never know.



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