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Gothlibra25
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Can a spirit enters your body without permission? What are the consequences?

Why do you think spirts can or cannot? Please share your opinions and personal stories on the matter.




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I am moving this to the main thread since it has to deal with a Dark Network topic.



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I believe the term 'possessed' and the movie 'Exorcist' can explain the 'without permission' side of this very well.



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Yes but that is a movie. Historically when looking at the history of exorcisms done by the Catholic Church, they often afflicted the ones with weak constitutions. Is there a moral solvent to revoking or disallowing such possessions? Could weak moral fiber be a passive form of permission? I believe so.



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Would there even be a way to tell if someone were possessed though? Just if it were really possible.

I mean, yes. The Catholic church performed 'exorcisms' on those they thought were possessed by the devil, but I'm not sure they could be classified as experts since religion was much more powerful thing back then than today [take the Salem Witch Trials for example].

I'm sure there have been more accounts of possession throughout history but documentation....?



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In that Mother Teresa became the subject of an exorcism; is it more reasonable to believe that she invited a spirit to possess her thereby causing her faith to crumble, that it possessed her without permission despite her faith, or that she wasn't actually possessed, and her faith crumbled for other reasons?

I tend to believe that possession itself isn't possible, whether or not anyone grants permission to be possessed. Possession would require spirits, demons or some other supernatural entity and as yet, no one has offered credible (objective) support for the existence of such entities.

Mother Teresa's Exorcism

I know of no case or claim of an atheist ever being possessed.



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No, they cannot. Sylvia Browne makes this point several times in her books. They cannot without your permission. Now if you are trying to get them to, then they might be able to, because that is a sort of permission. You can't control them though at some point.



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I feel if your weak minded or not a believer in such things then you could be possessed by anevil or even a good spirit. but, as in amitiville (sp) they did pretty much what they wanted to and well that was not JUST a Movie it actuallyhappened as many movies of possession are based on alot of real people. just my thoughts on it...



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Well when other person's conscious is able to control others conscious from far, it have obivious access to yourbody and mind. it penetrates you with its mind and brainforce... but if it love you (likes you), his spirit obviously to penetrate you and enter your body, that time your mind will be intercepted if you don'tlike its control over your acts... and it become painful. this way my dreams were intercepted I did not like that and i got nearly killed by anger coz my vein would explode if it would not great player of healing and it was a great high being knowing the nerve tree and point to which spot it just touch by fingers and i becam painless though was intercepted and highly stunned by its healing and hypnotic act as well as penetration. My conscious was aware this means it did not try to control me but wanted me to know this realm of penetrating from distant.

Other spirit normally do control mind and then everything even pitch of voice become as per its wishes by he slept our mind and conscious and acting from our body.



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Greetings all,
Thanks for responds
I am not talking about Exorcism about this post. I am eventually talk about a ghost, lost spirit person trying to go back home to the other side. I went to a haunted place. I have been getting lightheaded as if trying to go into my body without my permission but Can't go in & seeing dark figured shadow (described, very lightened dark colored below the waist, above dark figured shadow but I cant see the face)
And also I heard a noise said " Hi " to me when i was alone in the room while the group in the other room talking about each other lives. I was a bit scared so i went to join the group. I still feel this person in the room with me & the group.
What does it mean??? I need your responds



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Well there is possibility of ghost... but you cant able to see them unless your subconscious grown. this means right from before they imerge, your subconscious was awaken and you was able to see them, yes some time they take shape most of the time ot is the astral dream of sleeping person who visited you. if you concentrated much on it instead of fearing it, you would be able to see blur skul first then its face too coz its clearing image as your conscious becoem more grown and concentration on that ghost. coz normally in subconscious what we see is either revert xray image of the person which become fixes little later with the help of conscious. I can not say it was either living being whose body laying far or it is the ghost of dead person. both are true realms. they normally seen at night coz in sleep peepal do dream astral or if dead ghost is there, they will be with you quiet long time an can penetrate you. but dreaming astral spirit can not penetrate you coz they are not stable of theri brain mind on you and the many waves of thoughts striking them, they can not be with you moe than 90 minutes... but ghost if like oyu will be withyou for long time even it can stay inside you andyou will not aware of that. Or can stay over your body. yes both can communicate you all way.



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They are dead so why shouldn't they do what the want without consequences.



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Depending on the spirit I think permission is never given to enter a body or a house. many stories and fables depict this line of thought. Even hollywood depiction show unwanted spirits taken over the bodies of individuals.

Can we tell no probably not unless their head is spinning(exorsist) or skin turns a milky color. I think we could never tell.



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The atheist gets checked into a mental facility. The ones who have religious families might seek out religious help even if the afflicted is an atheist. One person’s multiple personality disorder or schizophrenia is another’s possession.



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Some say they cannot enter with out your permission. I know for a fact that is not true. Unless you are talking about invoking spirits into your body, then they can not enter with out your permission, sort of. But, in general, like in a house they can go wherever they please. Do you think they would ask your permission to just move on in?



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Yes Honorable CadreWolf,
to disallow them only, the spiritual and psychic spiritul shielding techniques took place to guard the body or house....

It can keep dead ghost away but can not take exercisers of the spiritual exercise away from its act to penetrate the shielded person.

yes psycho-spiritual shielding technique develped for this only.



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Gothlibra25, could you please give us a little more background information ?

1. What haunted place to you go to ?

2. Why did you go ?

What you speak of could be anything from a type of hysteria/nerves etc to someone becoming aware of Spirit.



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yes a spirit can inter your body without permission its called possession , usually its only to bedevil you but sometimes its a bad spirit and will try to get you to hurt yourself or others.



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Re: "One person’s multiple personality disorder or schizophrenia is another’s possession. "

Let us not forget that a few decades ago, one person's epilepsy, diabetes, malaria or even the flu was another persons "evil spirits". Evil spirits have been suggested for a great many things throughout man's history from earthquakes, to storms to disease.


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well put Beasty17 .. I have to say that itis so true that many had just been misdiagnoised and people felt it was possession of some dead spirit...

very good point.



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Yet on those terms we look back to the salem witch hunts on mis diagnoises of ones person. so fi this is the case than who is possesed the the accusor or the innocence of the other.



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Ok..Let me say a little something here from my experience and upbringing.

My grandmother raised me for the most part, and she was what some in the area referred to as a "root worker" who practiced midwifery, country medicine, and could work with spirits.

One of the first things she taught me was that a spirit is completely powerless against a normal healthy person, but will seek to frighten, humor, or depress a normal person in order to provoke an emotional response. That response is energy, and this is exactly what the spirit needs to feed on.
(By saying this I am speaking of a spirit that either does not know it has passed, or is unwilling to cross over and is doing everything it can to remain here and regain energy and some contact with the physical world. These are the ones I was warned to be careful of. )

When visiting a cemetery or a place know to be haunted I was taught never to touch anything that could cause me to bring away something from the place. I was told that a spirit doesn't see us clearly, but can see us at a very close range because the life energy of the average living being is like a light in a dim room. The spirits are attracted to that and will follow us if they get the chance.

My grandmother used a lot of old fashioned methods to confuse the spirits and keep them out of the home. One of these was to take a jar of colored marbles with us to the cemetery in her purse. When we returned home, she would pause at the walk of the house and take out the jar and hold it in plain sight. This was to allow the spirit to focus on the colors instead of us. Then she would leave the jar there over night. The spirit according to her would be so focused on the colors that we would be ignored long enough to allow us to slip out of sight. By the time the spirit had realized we were gone its energy would be so low that it would return to the place it came from for safety.

Now to the point. She taught that no spirit can enter a normal healthy person with permission or invitation. This is why casting a circle before any working was so important, to keep away the strays attracted to the energy.

They could, however, trick or seduce an unbalanced mind or someone weak with an illness. Free will, she told me, was one of the most powerful tools we have it our disposal.

Sometimes she worked with people she stated had "ghost sickness", in which the person had called out to a loved one who had passed and had responded, and in their weakness and grief was unwittingly allowing the spirit to draw energy from them and drag them down.

She "cured" this with a special smudging rite, and had the person call out to the spirit and tell it what damage it was doing, and that it was no longer wanted and was cast off. This also required the calling on of the deity of the affected person as the authority by which the command was given. (Sounds like a good old exorcism doesn't it?)

It always seemed to work.

But back to the question..in my experience the spirit cannot enter with out permission or invitation, and they will do almost anything to trick you into that if you are healthy. If you brought something home with you, and they followed you in..they will do anything and everything they can to get you to try to communicate with them to try to trick you into an invitation. Even the words, "Speak to me" put you in peril.

My two cents worth..

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My Respond
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Yes It exactly I am talking about.. Thanks so much
I am very relieved. Whatever is it trying to get my attention provoke me of I think Something is Wrong with me to get into my body without my permission.. But I am afraid to go back to the place... This haunted place I am talking about is a building I take my child to play groups program where my child goes play with children in his age range. and I go with other parents to get together to chat about anything. And also Clinic for Aboriginal & Non Aboriginal People



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i do believe that certain spirits can enter the weak. but it is true that you have to allow or ask it to come...
you have to call to it and ask it to come in...
however i have seen people possessed by the "holy spirit" and that was invited in openly and leaves easily. with no harm done.(dont judge. grew up in biblebelt)
i am most impressed with the responses here



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really tho, why would a spirit need permission? folklore? if the vampire of folklore happened to be real, do we really believe he/she would be frightened by a crucifix, be unable to see his/her reflection in a mirror, or ...need an invitation to enter a home?
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No.
It'll only enter your body if you allow it to.
But it need not be conscious, if you want it to enter you subconsciously, then it will.



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So, Why does it draws Energy from me to feel lightheaded when I go back to the place almost on weekly basis.



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A spirit cannot enter without your consent, yet the consent is ususally given unknowingly by our actions; everything we do on a daily basis (i.e. anger, lust, envy, jealousy, ect.) opens the doors for the spirits.



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I believe a spirit cannot enter someone without their permission. I think a perrson has to be willing or unsure for the spirit to enter. uncertain and against are different thing, because uncertain means they don't know or have second thoughts.



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taking up meditation or yoga is like leaving your front door open and passing out drunk in the garden.



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Meditation and yoga does give permission for a spirit to enter your body, but may in fact put you intune with more of your body and surroundings. unless i could get some info otherwise.



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I find people want to be "Haunted" it provides an excuse for mundane
symptoms, like anxiety, or depression, instead of saying, I feel depressed, or anxious, they say .. maybe I am "feeling spirits". So Idio-symptomatic conditioning is involved.

Somehow you want others to confirm what you feel as an absolute.



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Evil spirits Can and will enter without permission. the consequences are however they are weeker and easier to excercise



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I wonder if a person "possesed" could be MRIed to spot differences in their neuro-system.. ?



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It's possible, but not if you know how to control things like that... which most people do subconsciously anyhow just by keeping secrets and things like that. Many people don't realize that just by having something locked away in their head that they don't want people to know, they are blocking people and things out of their minds.

So it's not common, but yes, it does happen.



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Yes it can it i remember a time where i was playing with the ouija board with my brother we were mocking the game and the spirits i was way younger ... my brother walk out the room it was during the day i place the board on the bed and before me stood a black shadow and it was trying to take over my body i felt something pushing itself on me and licked my face i ran out the room but there were other odd things that took place after playing with that board. .. the whole point is yes if it take you unguarded it could and if you have no experience in dealing with entities it will make you a target....... Bad spirits that what they do.... make people lives impossible and miserable...



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It,s feeding from you , it,s pobably one of the spirits that Obonewits was talking about , the ones to stay clear of . They feed because they don,t want to cross over and can have attacements to certain places . It can feed from you if you acknowledge it , if you fear it , you open the flood gates , it can take advantage as it wants .You might be sensitive to these things , which creates a link . To stop it , take no notice of it , go into the other room with your friends and talk . Strut around the house like you own it , and give it no more thought . If you are not weak in the house and do not fear it , it cant get you .



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Back on the topic ,yet at some times I ponder that the old lore is true and demons have to have permission to enter, yet if this was the case. than demonic possion would hold false to these cases of permission granted.



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OK this is hard to explain but there is a sort of permission to get possessed, it all depends on the hosts situation.
The things a person is going through can be the invite such as, drug addiction, trauma, depression, etc..
These things weaken your soul and invite a demon to enter.

When this happens the host is totally unaware, and it is noticed by close friends, and loved ones.

The messed up thing that i think is hypocritical is when a priest performs a exorcism he goes in with the belief that such things do not exist.

Now there is a term called The perfect possession,
It is when the host totally gives their self over to the demon.
When that happens it is impossible to get the demon out.



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akashadarksoul > What makes you think a priest does'nt think demons exist ?



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akashadarksoul - And where exactly did you come across your information? Or is it all made up?

Silly Sinora. We all know priests think those creepy Gawfik kids are the Spawn of Satan.



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it is not made up I have researched the paranormal and everything to do with it for years.
Priest's go in to battle demons but they must have the belief the don't exist.



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Where and what exactly have you researched to come to that conclusion?

Additionally, your comment about the priests is a bit ignorant as I doubt you have been able to come across every single priest that has ever existed to ask them whether or not they believe in demons. That being true you can't truthfully say priests don't believe in demons.



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As God gave mankind free will, He placed them above the Angels and the demonic. For as long as mankind has faith in Him, God would protect them from all others not of man. It is this freedom and favor that He gave which breeds the hatred the fallen angels have against mankind.

Through time itself, Lucifer has developed a diabolic strategy to dishonor mankind and allow his legions to breathe the breath of life. It begins with slow infestation and building of power, oppressing the victim, and finally possessing the victim.

Possession gained public awareness in the 1973 release of the film The Exorcist. Though based upon a true story, this film fell to the glamorization of Hollywood. The possession portrayed in the film was that of a "perfect possession" which is very rare.

In most instances, the victim and the entity often struggle for control portraying what may look like schizophrenic symptoms. Once the oppression phase has come near its end, the victim will often give up the fight against the powers that are there, feeling hopelessness or through a false promise of relief from the entities. Once the victim opens those doors, the diabolic entity enters their body and begins the possession process - something that can only be done through invitation, either purposely or by accident.

There was a woman who lost her only son when he was just 20 years of age to a drunk driver. This woman, that we'll call Joan, was so devastated over the loss of her son that she longed to remain in contact with him. One day, her sister gave her a book that discussed the concept of using electronic voice phenomenon to speak with the dead. Joan devoted herself to this book and would frequent the cemetery where her son was laid to rest, attempting to establish a link to her son using nothing more than a tape recorder.

She did achieve some limited success in contacting what appeared to be her son - but also her pain and sorrow drew the attention of something much more dark and sinister from the graveyard. Soon, using electronic communications was not enough for Joan, so she turned to the use of a Ouija board. Joan established contact with something that claimed to be her son. It shared knowledge with her that only her son should know, and even began to predict events accurately.

The board soon became an infatuation with Joan. She used it more and more, and eventually began to use the board alone. This initial interest of communicating with her son lead to five years of torment and terror, as demonic entities entered into her life. Friends began to notice changes in Joan. She began to spend more time alone. Her emotions became more negative towards others and herself. Her sleep became difficult. It became riddled with intense nightmares of her son's death, tainted by unknown entities. Joan began to hear voices and see figures moving about her home. She began to experience bruises and scratches she couldn't explain, and a feeling of something inside her head that she couldn't control. Joan was experiencing a partial possession.

Not all circumstances follow the course of first infestation and then oppression before a possession is attempted by an entity. In some cases, the demonic have infested a property such a long time that all they need is an "open door" to a potential victim for a possession attempt to take place. An "open door" is a weakness in a person that an entity can slip through into a person, or in some instances all it takes is a very powerful sensitive who is "open" to all that is in a location.

An investigation was held at a location known to be infested with the demonic, and a small team went in with the goal of cleansing the location. Within a matter of thirty minutes, the sensitive of the group began to feel her face distort by itself. She noticed that she began to hear herself mutter obscenities, curses and threats to other team members. It became apparent to this experienced sensitive what was going on so she removed herself from that situation before it went too far. But within minutes of that experience, another team member's demeanor changed completely. Normally a very outspoken, confident individual, he began to mumble his words and not show clear thought. This gentleman was removed from the environment before the situation went too far. In essence, this team was infiltrated in a matter of minutes, not months or years, because the environmental circumstances were just right.

Possession contains many of the clinical signs of Schizophrenia. In Schizophrenia, a patient experiences hallucinations that are false perceptions. They are inaccuracies that affect the senses and cause people to hear, see, taste, touch or smell what others do not. In the acute phases of schizophrenia, patients are most likely to insist they are hearing voices that no one else can hear. Sometimes they hear noises, clicks or non-word sounds. On occasion, though more rarely, they are disturbed by seeing, smelling or feeling things that others do not.

Descriptions of these perceptions differ. Sometimes they are experienced as very forceful and important thoughts. Frequently, however, they seem to come from outside the self and are heard as conversations between other people, or commands, or compliments (or insults) addressed to the person. Sometimes the voices are reassuring, at other times they are menacing. Often enough, the remarks heard are not addressed to the person but seem to be concerned with them in an unclear (but perhaps derogatory) way. Individuals who experience this describe it "like a tape playing in my head." It is so real to the person that it cannot be dismissed as imagination. And so the fine line is drawn between mental illness and possession.

The similarities between possession and Schizophrenia are by design not by coincidence. Satan's greatest strength is the deception of his non-existence that he places within mankind. It is only through a keen balance of faith and knowledge of mental illness that the difference between Schizophrenia and a possession can be determined. If it is a true possession, then only faith will see you through.


http://www.thothweb.com/article1106.html

Possession is one of the most creepy and frighting of the paranormal phenomena out there. True demonic possession that is. Most of the major religions believe in the ability of the human soul and body being manipulated or taken over completely by ether spirits, demons, or the devil himself. In Islam and India their is the belief in troublesome spirits that usually bring temptations, illnesses and other troubles but not quite the same as a demonic possession, which is much more intense.
There are a handful of characteristics that all genuine possessions will have. The first is speaking in languages that the person being possessed had never learned or is familiar with. The possessed will speak with anger, hatred, and be cursing. Another trait of true possession is the levitation of objects and even the possessed themselves. Many poltergeist occurrences are confused with demonic possession because of objects being levitated and being hurled about. Super strength is another trait of the possessed, or becoming stronger that the victim is known to be. When a person has an evil spirit or demon inside of them, any religious symbol or item that is considered holy will anger and enrage the unwanted entities. Holy water will cause great pain and burning to the victim of any real demonic possession. Lastly, demons and actually many spirits from what I've been noticing through research seem to know a great deal about the past, present, future and all kinds of information. The demons will use the information to throw off and distract the ones giving the exorcism and also to cause more suffering to those close to the victim such as family and friends.


http://www.studiesoftheparanormal.com/possession.html

When investigating haunted houses, sometimes you discover that the house isn't haunted, but a member of the family is. A person could be oppressed or possessed by a demon or an evil spirit. An oppressed person is attacked externally. Symptoms range from extreme depression to being beaten physically by an unknown force. Possession occurs when a demon or demons actually reside inside an individual. Symptoms of possession include an extreme heavy feeling on the back or neck, speaking in a different voice or language, hearing voices and having knowledge of the unknown. The possessed person will only have partial control of their emotions and activities. Of course, a person with any of these symptoms should be checked first for medical and psychological problems.

A person can become possessed through obvious ways like participating in satanic rituals, obsessive use of a ouija board ,but can be also totally at random. The possessed rarely seek help for themselves and it is usually a friend or family member who does.

Exorcism is the casting out of demons or evil spirits from persons, places or things which are believed to be possessed. Almost every religion has it's own form of exorcism. I will focus on the Catholic rite since that is what I am most familiar with.I have assisted in over 25 exorcisms and it is usually necessary to physically restrain the individual because of their violent behavior(I've been bitten,punched and scratched). Hospital type restraints are used and sometimes even a straitjacket. It is also helpful to have 2 to 4 restraining the individual since the person usually possesses great strength and will often break out of the restraints and attack the priest, the assistants or even themselves.

Once the person is restrained, the priest will read the Litany of the Saints. He will use Holy Water, a crucifix, Holy relics and a purple stole, all of which are used at certain times during the exorcism prayers. An exorcism can last an hour or go on for months

http://mrhaunted.com/index.html

Parasitic Entities.

An entity that is of bad intentions. It must feed off of something, stress, anguish, drug problems, emotional problems, fear, ect.. It can be very problematic within a house hold, a little less subtle then a poltergeist but still enough to reek havoc. Sometimes associated or confused with poltergeists

http://www.annsparanormal.freehomepage.com/custom2.html

I saw a documentary about the priest's and their beliefs going into a possession.

I must point something out~ you are part of a site that houses beings feed on blood to live, are immortal,
not to mention people that believe in these beings, and you have a problem with possession??

And are the rude remarks really necessary?
I finished high school many years ago, and thought this was an adult discussion.



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akashadarksoul > that does'nt explain why you think priests don't believe in demons.

Perhaps it was an error in posting ?


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I said i saw it on a documentary and connot find it online. I tried but cannot find it if you would like I will take the statement back till I do. Will this settle it?



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akashadarksoul > Thanks for getting back so soon. I think it may be true to say that some members of the priesthood do not believe in demons, not the teams trained specifically to deal with them.


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No offense met, but a few article links does not equal years of research. I'm sorry, but that could be found in five minutes with a simple google search which doesn't really prove anything.



Additionally, VR doesn't house any such things. Vampires don't exist.



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The originator of this thread was asking for personal opinions and stories not specifically any kind of proofs.

If posters wish to expand on their opinions that's fine.

As for asking anyone for proof of any kind of study of the occult well....then I dare say there would be an arguement about certificates etc it's a no win situation for some.



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Meditation can not give unpermitted entrance to the body of meditator while meditator can enter other body or can pull other spirit into its body. but pulling spirit into its body it self is exoorcism. but meditation i safest way to do such thing. yet its face to face wih good spirits in thi psycho-spiritual. but remember, don't do it purposefully or evil may come to you. Meditation is the technique not to play with spirits. its for good use only.


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i think it's possible but the spirit would have to have a strong link with the living subject i would believe for it to do so.



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Stronger spirits or beings can enter our world without permission, but it is rare.



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Yes any spirit can enter your body with out permission and as far as spirit entering I believe that is demon possion also a spirit that is not demon may enter your body with out persmission
The consiquences very and what thepossess of u can they choose to make u suffer of such



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You bet it can. The consequences depend on the type of spirit or entity it is.



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would tha be a spirit or demon..? Or is there a difference.

I would specualte spirits are souls in teransition and lost, yet demons been to the other side and wisgh to return no matter the host.



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It actually depends upon your openness to the spirit realm..I myself have been inhabited by spirits and sometimes depending upon the spirit it can or can't be fun...I find that it also too depends upon the spirit some wait for permission others just do it..



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I've spoken to a close friend of mine about these shadow people ive been seeing as a child throughout adulthood and why...i do not know since i was the only one seeing and feeling their presence in my family. I choose not to define what these entities are since I do not know their purposes. I believe they are merely spirits, just as we are in our own bodies. The only difference is, they do not have a body which keeps them bound to this world. Maybe they do so of their own choice, communicate in their own forms to get 'noticed' for whatever reason. I am told that they needed to have permission, however i never personally 'allowed' it to happen, i never 'invited' them in. It just happened. Needless to say, i have not seen or sensed them again since speaking loudly for them to leave me alone. I guess that means, since I too am a spirit, and have a voice, I can 'uninvite them'. That is all one does and can do without the side show theatrics. Simpy voice loudly and mean it.....that you do not want it anymore. Repeat over and over until you feel no doubt what so ever. Chances are it is a lesson that is being taught to instill your own authority of your own body, mind, living space ect.



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I enter all the time from the astral plane. Such is the nature of my vampirism. It's the easiest way to draw energy for me, which is odd considering the barriers most people have with astral travel.

When I feed off life energy, it's done on the astral level so technically I suppose that means I'm entering your abode without permission. The answer to your question is "yes". I have yet to try to possess anyone. I personally never saw the need to do it. I have my own array of issues in life, and trading them for someone else's is a bit of a game of roulette.

But I sense people's dreams and sleeping thoughts more and more. So I would consider it uninvited intrusion on the best of days.



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I read above, that a spirit may enter without permission based on the person they are contacting. A plasible notion to say. like children more intuned with spirits or animals.

Yet we ponder is there such rules in the spirit life dictating the presence of their energy or is based on the thoughts and society structure when they had passed?



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Spirits can led energy, but demons are different. One must invite the challange to have an entity enter your body.



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For akashadarksoul:
thank you for posting and keep on posting!

The similarity between schizophrenia and possessing are clear, you explain them well, but I found odd that you did n`t add a mention about how the two differ?



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Anytime you open a door to the other dimension if its intentional or not is an invitation. Movies cant describe reality and they do loose the focus of reality as a whole. Spirits are powerful and unpredictable and countless real cases have proved this theory, our world and universe is far more complicated and misunderstood as one can surmise. Iwould say the whole concept would be as daunting as life after death itself and as misunderstood.



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Hell yes! Unless you ward yourself and your home, spirits go wherever they want....



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I have a spirit in my house now! It's called Vodka.

I never asked it to come into my home, another person brought it in.



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Yes they can surely enter without permission.. Like someone said above it is called posessed.. It would be scary though and i am sure it would drain energy out of the person body..



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